Behind The Beat with Ben Gillies of Silverchair - STRAIGHT LINES review

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  • Опубликовано: 3 ноя 2024

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  • @softytop1000
    @softytop1000 2 года назад +8

    There is no coincidence to the level of success in which you had as a band when you see the thought process behind these songs. From what I hear from Daniel and yourself the attention to detail is astounding whilst remaining modest. This song especially shows the evolution and restraint of the band, it’s the notes you don’t play which strikes me as a key feature in all the great artists over the years, and Silverchair were/are one of the great artists.

  • @jamestorrens645
    @jamestorrens645 2 года назад +12

    I was 3 years old when Young Modern came out (yes... im just 18) but I have an interesting story about it... I remember waking up during the night, and walked out into our lounge room. I turned on the TV and Rage was on, and it just so happened that they were airing the music video for Straight Lines. I just stood there watching the music video, and the song has been with me ever since. This was 15 years ago so I can't remember much, but it's one of my favourite songs of all time.

  • @jasondrakemusic
    @jasondrakemusic 2 года назад +21

    Watching your progression as an artist and your drumming style through the years has always been inspiring to me. Thanks for sharing these videos! Very much looking forward to more.

  • @jurassiclore5315
    @jurassiclore5315 2 года назад +4

    For a drummer and lifelong Silverchair fan, to finally see videos like these is absolutely amazing :D

  • @alexfernandez571
    @alexfernandez571 2 года назад +2

    An expert in his craft .

  • @marklunavich3221
    @marklunavich3221 2 года назад +9

    These vids should have way more views.. One of the most influential drummers of the last 20 or so years!!! Awesome stuff brother!

    • @BenGillies888
      @BenGillies888  2 года назад

      Thanks, mate

    • @4ND1Y3P35
      @4ND1Y3P35 2 года назад

      True, but no, everyone cares about what Grohl does. Gets boring! Silverchair was a band the FF or others would dream of being

  • @Rain_power
    @Rain_power 2 года назад +6

    This is awesome! My favorite Silverchair drum memory was hearing you live at Portland, Oregon for the YM tour. Your Black Sabbath-esque fills in The Lever were so huge. The whole room felt alive!

    • @BenGillies888
      @BenGillies888  2 года назад +4

      Yeah man! That's what it's all about ;)

  • @alexanderacosta5274
    @alexanderacosta5274 2 года назад +2

    hello Ben I am from Costa Rica, thank you to continúe, being a gread artist always will be, My favorite band.
    Thank you for having been part of, Silverchair, I do not lose the hope to see them together again, a pleasure to listen to your talent🙏👍

  • @raisamota8417
    @raisamota8417 2 года назад +1

    Dreams DO come true! OMG, am I watching BEN GILLIES teaching how to play my favorite song? I'm speechless...

  • @markhardycreative
    @markhardycreative 2 года назад +5

    I love the build in the song, great stuff thanks for doing these Ben

  • @filipeperry
    @filipeperry 2 года назад +6

    This song looks simple at the first moment, but actually has a lot of kick tricks!

  • @rodrigosantosguitar
    @rodrigosantosguitar 2 года назад +2

    This has an incredible vibe. The drums cheer me up.

  • @idk-dn4ke
    @idk-dn4ke 2 года назад +8

    Hey Ben could u try do Acid rain if your doing more vids? :)

    • @chrisjarrett799
      @chrisjarrett799 2 года назад +1

      Yes please that be great to see the acid rain drums

    • @BenGillies888
      @BenGillies888  2 года назад +5

      ha! Now THAT has been a very long time since I played that track

  • @RichardFriendartist
    @RichardFriendartist Год назад +1

    this is incredible Ben. Your generosity with this is really helpful and so rare for pro musicians...so thank you!

  • @hoggboyy
    @hoggboyy 2 года назад +1

    Fuck! I can't wait for "If You Keep Losing Sleep!"

  • @ianreleford9067
    @ianreleford9067 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for these videos! OG Silverchair fan and I’ll rock you albums forever! Wish nothing but the best for all of you!!

  • @popplug3384
    @popplug3384 2 года назад +1

    just started playing drums and heard Freak again for the first time in 25 years, these videos couldn't have come at a better time. Much respect!

  • @markmcdonnell
    @markmcdonnell 2 года назад +1

    LMAO. Every time he said "da das" you could see a small child just giggling to himself. Magic. 😂

  • @PapaAzzler
    @PapaAzzler 2 года назад +6

    All 3 of these videos are fantastic. Great to hear this insight into how these drum parts took shape.
    I hope you can do a video on “emotion sickness”.
    Cheers!

  • @KurtCobainWasKilled
    @KurtCobainWasKilled 2 года назад +11

    Playing these songs on the kit again must be bittersweet for you but this behind the scenes walkthrough is much appreciated so thank you!
    I can’t think of a single Silverchair song where the drum parts did anything but unify the music and melodies. You’re a real talent and influential drummer Ben - reminiscent of Dave Grohl and his ability to give Nirvana’s songs a similar and memorable momentum.

    • @BenGillies888
      @BenGillies888  2 года назад +3

      Thanks, mate :)

    • @spaceburger80
      @spaceburger80 2 года назад

      What Kurt said. Every word of it. Your signature style is as essential as Grohl to Nirvana, Adler to early Guns, Sorum to later Guns, Tre to Green Day or Kinney to AiC.

  • @orceyes
    @orceyes 2 года назад +2

    Mate, these vids are epic. Thanks taking the time to do them

  • @JillsCraftySpace
    @JillsCraftySpace 2 года назад +2

    Love hearing these behind the scenes making of the songs. Please make more.

  • @rodrigocarneiro2100
    @rodrigocarneiro2100 2 года назад

    Ben your style is awasome. Thanks for the music!

  • @jannbarbosa
    @jannbarbosa 2 года назад +3

    Amazing! Will always love this song, this album!

  • @wicaksonno7151
    @wicaksonno7151 2 года назад +2

    i like the series, keep on comin Ben....and bring some guest, *cough* chris

  • @MarieBower
    @MarieBower 2 года назад +2

    Damn Ben. Watching this brought back great memories of seeing you guys play this at the Wiltern in LA. So powerful, love to see it/hear it.

  • @SugarcatPlays
    @SugarcatPlays Год назад +1

    The snare from Diorama casually sitting on the ground behind you...

  • @Thorley666
    @Thorley666 2 года назад +3

    Always loved drumming but you were my first drum idol. Used to play along to your young modern live shows all the time in my lounge room. Loving all this detail you and can are producing atm.

  • @pinkblue1969
    @pinkblue1969 2 года назад +1

    Thank you Ben for breaking these down. Watching you all grow through the years is amazing and I hope one day you all can find peace and preform again or even just get together.. My father is a musician and he broke his band up in 87 and they all never play with each other except my dad's lead guitar player.. He joined a band and they happened to need a bass player he called my dad and my dad's Been with them ever since.. Unfortunately his best friend ( the lead guitar player died 6 months after my dad joined on my birthday in 1991)...My dad out of them all is the only one who continues and continued to play.. I find it sad but it has nothing to do with BS just others moved into their life's, when my dad continued to do his passion even to this day !! I'd hate to see the same thing happen with you Mates!! They have jammed separately together but not together... I'm not saying this as a fan just as a human and getting people back together.. Love you all!!

  • @TenableVegan
    @TenableVegan 2 года назад +2

    That's it, you've got the kit out, you're rehearsing the old songs, time to find a front man & bring Silverchair back to life!

    • @FactsBeFacts
      @FactsBeFacts 2 года назад

      Right?! Why should Silverchair end just cos Daniel doesn't want to do it anymore? I wanna see Gillies singing a few of the songs!

  • @mstemmelen
    @mstemmelen 2 года назад +2

    Dang Gillies, that part of the song ain’t no joke, it’s THE best part of the song! So damn heavy! 💥 💥💥

  • @stephenrumph772
    @stephenrumph772 2 года назад +1

    This is an amazing series Ben. Thank you for sharing, and going so in depth with your beat creation. This gives me an even bigger appreciation for Silverchair’s music.

  • @bobbybarrett7475
    @bobbybarrett7475 2 года назад +1

    These are super fun, Ben! Didn't realize that you were not really a fan of using a click, but I totally get it. If there are more of these in the future, I'd like to humbly request "Without You", I try to tap my fingers along with that one, and the beat always catches me off guard. Also, an option to watch the full playthrough would be cool.

  • @dimitrismanousos91
    @dimitrismanousos91 2 года назад +2

    I always love the way Ben play the drums ....he still influences me

  • @daryllholland1228
    @daryllholland1228 2 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for sharing, Ben. I found this really insightful! It always amazes me how a song like Straight Lines can still throw surprises up after so many listens. Loving the vids and your recent material mate!

  • @Australiano87
    @Australiano87 3 месяца назад

    I’m obsessed with this song 4ever!

  • @maxquiere
    @maxquiere 2 года назад +1

    Hi Ben. Wow. I really like these video series. I hope you will do some more Silverchair songs in the future.the new drum tracks sound really high quality. Love your drumming and all the extra information about each track and the recording days. Thank you so much for this series. Stay safe and healthy my friend. Greetings :)

  • @immanuelsiregar7395
    @immanuelsiregar7395 2 года назад +2

    Keren, Ben👍Terima kasih
    Oia.. Kapan Silverchair reunian?😎

  • @JDELOU
    @JDELOU 2 года назад +1

    This is so awesome Ben! U don’t have an idea of how I’m of watching these vídeos! 💛👏🏻👏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🔥🔥🔥

  • @granitestate8199
    @granitestate8199 2 года назад +3

    Such an Interesting Album. Never heard a Silverchair song I didn't like. 🤘

  • @EspireMike
    @EspireMike 2 года назад +1

    These videos are so fantastic. Thanks for putting these out. Looking forward to more.

  • @lachlaninglis9568
    @lachlaninglis9568 Год назад

    Really well played Ben!! It’s a solid and perfectly fitting drum part 💯

  • @rcturner719
    @rcturner719 2 года назад +1

    Really enjoyed watching all your videos. I appreciate all the bits of information you give. I like that you’re breaking down each part and explaining. But I would enjoy listening to a full play through at the end. Also, would really like to see some content from Neon Ballroom: Paint Pastel Princess, Black Tangled Heart, Emotion Sickness. All have excellent grooves and great cymbal work! Regardless, keep the content coming.

  • @liamcasey1580
    @liamcasey1580 2 года назад +1

    I can’t believe how hooky the ‘da da’ sections are, I always air drum them in the car!

  • @cnate745
    @cnate745 2 года назад +1

    ahhhh I have a digital drum set (dont want to upset the neighbors) this is my favourite song

  • @Tunainthebrine79
    @Tunainthebrine79 Год назад

    The drums really make this song special. It's a catchy song, but Ben really made this song better with the way he approached the drums here. Love these videos, Ben!

  • @jasonmogensen6020
    @jasonmogensen6020 2 года назад +3

    You hit hard, but with dynamics. Your drumming has been a influence on me. You kill it on the drums \m/

  • @-TheRealThing-
    @-TheRealThing- 2 года назад +2

    It's good to see you revisiting this stuff, especially the breakdowns. I was just listening to Johns' new album, Emergency Calls Only sounds like a Chair track.. Then there's the new take on Freak 🤷‍♂

  • @drumsontherange
    @drumsontherange Год назад

    this will be my lesson of the week with my students

  • @JarodFrank
    @JarodFrank 2 года назад +1

    Very cool to see! If I ever get my silverchair tribute band back together, now I'll know how to approach it. We only played 2 shows, so Straight Lines wasn't one we had learned yet. It was so fun trying to perfect your parts. No Association was a bugger to memorize for sure! Can't wait to see what else you have in store for us.

  • @DemocracyManifest
    @DemocracyManifest 2 года назад +1

    Great upload again, certainly enjoying these. Suggestions for drum tracks i'd love to see; Satin Sheets, Petrol & Chlorine, Steam will Rise, Madman. Also would love to hear your perspective as a drummer about your B-side tracks and some of the punk rock covers Silverchair have recorded over the years.

  • @chief_wind
    @chief_wind 2 года назад +1

    Inspiring stuff Ben. You guys were the soundtrack to my youth. Having only picked up drums about 5 years ago, your videos give the songs a whole new dynamic and level of appreciation! Thanks for doing them. (They’re gonna work as great tutorials too!)

    • @BenGillies888
      @BenGillies888  2 года назад +1

      Only 5 years? ;) I bet you're on fire!

    • @chief_wind
      @chief_wind 2 года назад

      Oh yeah totally smokin (not quite). Should have picked the sticks up in the 90’s, never too late tho

  • @laynemoon3275
    @laynemoon3275 2 года назад +1

    Way to overcome the challenge and put the drums into that amazing super sayain level and just make that song 🔥 🤘

  • @scarl11
    @scarl11 2 года назад +1

    I love these! Would love one for every track 🔥🎶 There's something magic about Silverchair, so cool to hear about the integral part of the drums...

  • @DEMARCHION
    @DEMARCHION 2 года назад +3

    MY FAVORITE TRACK...STRAIGHT LINE IS POWERFUL SONG!

    • @BenGillies888
      @BenGillies888  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching

    • @DEMARCHION
      @DEMARCHION 2 года назад

      @@BenGillies888 Uhullllllllll!YEAHHHH!
      The honor is mine!

  • @bodhi9464
    @bodhi9464 2 года назад +1

    love this channel mate - love the chair - Ben ~ such a great drummer .. the use of the floor Tom for me now is the Ben Gillies move 🥁 😎🤙🏽🇦🇺🎶

    • @BenGillies888
      @BenGillies888  2 года назад +1

      Rock on!

    • @bodhi9464
      @bodhi9464 2 года назад

      @@BenGillies888 mate; hope you can do some more of these videos (when you have time); they are not only interesting, but helpful in understanding what you are doing in the songs .. with much respect 🙏🏼🎶 🥁

  • @raconteurful
    @raconteurful 2 года назад +1

    Great tune. I enjoy the way you explain your process. It shows how much boiling down and thought goes a seemingly simple drum part over a complex sounding arrangement. The end result is a very natural, flowing and cohesive(to the song) sounding drum part. Really like the intro click on click off use too. On ya Ben! R

  • @CFChristian
    @CFChristian 2 года назад +1

    Beautiful kit. Your tom positioning and tuning is intriguing. Not sure if it's been explained elsewhere but I'd be interested in hearing an explanation as to why!
    This was a happy accident to stumble onto your channel. Been a fan since day 1.

    • @BenGillies888
      @BenGillies888  2 года назад +1

      I bought the 13" tom after the main kit and I messed up the depth! LOL So I just went with it ;)

    • @CFChristian
      @CFChristian 2 года назад

      @@BenGillies888 Lol no way. That's hilarious. Thanks for being honest at least. I think it's at the very least an interesting aesthetic. Kind of like Thomas Haake when he used the roto-tom's.

  • @RebeccaClarkeDrums
    @RebeccaClarkeDrums 2 года назад +1

    These videos are great! Thanks Ben!

  • @kimmirossi46
    @kimmirossi46 2 года назад +2

    Excellent video! Just do ana's song and I am in heaven again! Thank you man!

  • @matt09ward
    @matt09ward 2 года назад +1

    Loving these videos man. you talk about how something more complicated would have made the song convuluted, would be cool to see you go nuts with examples of different ideas and show how that would have changed the sound and feel of the song.... maybe for the better maybe for the worse.

  • @jeremybean-hodges6397
    @jeremybean-hodges6397 2 года назад +3

    Hi Ben, this is a fantastic series and as a bit of a music nerd, I love it.
    Can I ask - how did you manage the evolution in Daniel's writing, as he moved from heavy rock into more operatic orchestration, and then a far more pop-driven sound? I assume that there's a divergence of taste at some point there - and it's not an unfamiliar challenge for most people in bands, having to work through differences in what you want to play.

    • @BenGillies888
      @BenGillies888  2 года назад +1

      Take away all of the extra instrumentation and ultimately all of Silverchair's music is rock ;)

  • @jakecomyns3257
    @jakecomyns3257 2 года назад +3

    hey Ben you reckon you could do findaway ?
    these vids are sick by the way

    • @BenGillies888
      @BenGillies888  2 года назад +2

      Maybe - that could be fun! I haven't played that song for a very long time

  • @DWINC
    @DWINC 2 года назад +3

    Powerful mate ! Hope you’ll doing songs like Spawn and No Association as well!

    • @BenGillies888
      @BenGillies888  2 года назад +2

      Cheers! I'll consider them in the future

  • @JesseBatesDrums
    @JesseBatesDrums 2 года назад +1

    Great Video cheers mate.

  • @AHPOutdoors
    @AHPOutdoors 2 года назад +1

    Great stuff man. Really enjoyed it.

  • @alvaroabreu4214
    @alvaroabreu4214 2 года назад +1

    A truly complex song with simple drum parts. But that's the beauty: have the feeling to deliver what music needs!
    For some people YM is an ok/bad album. I myself had difficulties to assimilate It on firts auditions. But It's a great album, Full of creativity! I'd love to see/hear more from It!

  • @MJASMR1
    @MJASMR1 2 года назад +1

    Wow I could watch you play the full album. Drum sound here is incredible as it is on the record. Will the stems be available? I love drumming along to this album. My 11 month old is also a big fan of Diorama ❤️

  • @emmettscott8801
    @emmettscott8801 2 года назад +1

    Loving this series ❤️ hope there’s s’more to come …. the drums on without you & Hollywood are 2 of my favourite… would be cool to hear you talk about the song Ramble as well 😬 love that song 🤘

  • @yulocastro
    @yulocastro 2 года назад +1

    Thank you!!

  • @velocitrader
    @velocitrader 2 года назад +1

    This song knocked me on my ass the first time I heard it. Daniel's voice has come so far and sounds airy and amazing. This band is not given the respect they deserve.

  • @fercc7
    @fercc7 2 года назад +1

    hi ben!!! love these video tutorials, hope you can make a lot more!!! please, do a spawn again video!!!one of my biggest influences on drumming, saludos desde Lima, Perú 🤘🐸🤘

  • @MrWarmachine2473
    @MrWarmachine2473 2 года назад +1

    Can you please do without you , or a video on the drum beat on without you

  • @Rhysrig07
    @Rhysrig07 2 года назад +2

    Love hearing you talk about the drum tracks like this. Can I ask who made the decision to use triggers when playing live early days?

    • @BenGillies888
      @BenGillies888  2 года назад +2

      One of our early FOH technicians. There was a lot of bleed from the stage sound, so the triggers gave the drums a littler more clarity ;) We did a mix of mics and triggers

    • @Rhysrig07
      @Rhysrig07 2 года назад

      @@BenGillies888 thank you so much for answering. Much love

  • @harryvarvaressos4770
    @harryvarvaressos4770 2 года назад +1

    love this tune and those da das. pllease do if you keep losing sleep ! one of ur coolest drum parts :)

  • @WinItReigns
    @WinItReigns 2 года назад +1

    Bro! This entire idea, well action as it's implemented, is fan friggin tastic!
    The website is nice too. Packaged well and easy to navigate.
    The only issue I saw on the site is the video selection portion. The icons aren't loading correctly.
    Just tryin to help!
    Cheers Brother
    Super happy for ya man!

    • @WinItReigns
      @WinItReigns 2 года назад

      That's why I came directly to RUclips....
      Anyhow.
      Good shit Yo

    • @BenGillies888
      @BenGillies888  2 года назад

      Love feedback! Thanks, mate 🙌🏻

    • @BenGillies888
      @BenGillies888  2 года назад

      You mean the embedded RUclips vids? They work fine for me... I'll look into it :)

    • @WinItReigns
      @WinItReigns 2 года назад

      @@BenGillies888 yes. It may be an issue with the phones android system. So something more on the receiving end

    • @WinItReigns
      @WinItReigns 2 года назад

      @@BenGillies888 If I may. Might I suggest a few more GoPro type shots to sync with the video. Maybe one right of a cymbal to really grab the vibrations, and one at the floor at the bass drum catching the kicks. It would really beef up the capturing of the playing.
      I got to say though, the studio looks really good. Nice space.
      I'd love to see -Steam will Rise.
      This was a good move Ben.
      Again, I'm just genuinely happy to see this. I did enjoy the solo work to of course.
      Cheers

  • @marcioforsave
    @marcioforsave 2 года назад +1

    please make another videos... tell more about the working process behind de song constrution
    cheers from brasil

  • @pamelabowtell3614
    @pamelabowtell3614 2 года назад +1

    Thanks so much :) These were absolutely amazing. Are you going to do more?

    • @BenGillies888
      @BenGillies888  2 года назад +2

      Thank you! More coming over the next few weeks

  • @marcustait9017
    @marcustait9017 2 года назад +1

    hey Ben we need more songs, this is great! how about diorama songs! awesome stuff!

  • @pedrosalome7748
    @pedrosalome7748 2 года назад +2

    So cooooollll..
    🙏🙏💙💙

  • @affectzero1
    @affectzero1 2 года назад +1

    this series is a very good idea!!! really cool to see you again behind your drum!
    are you doing all sylverchair's album?
    Thx and hello from FRANCE!

    • @BenGillies888
      @BenGillies888  2 года назад

      Just starting with a hand full of tunes.... see how it goes :)

  • @ludskin
    @ludskin 2 года назад +1

    your talking about the "da daaas" reminds me about a german band called Trio an their hit single " Da, da, da"😂
    nice drumming by the way

  • @rodrigocarneiro2100
    @rodrigocarneiro2100 2 года назад

    Amazing

  • @spaceburger80
    @spaceburger80 2 года назад +1

    This song is one of the very few songs I can put on repeat for hours… and it doesn’t get tired. There are so incredibly few songs you can say that about. Its like you found a kind of “universal vibratory pitch”. So congrats! “Straight Lines” joined the weird conglomeration of songs I can play repeat for hours on end which strangely include Mariah’s “Always Be My Baby” and Gaye/Terrell’s “Ain’t No Mountain High Enough”. *cough* Gonna go listen Slayer now *cough*

  • @christianboyle2762
    @christianboyle2762 2 года назад +1

    Hey man, killer drum sound! What kit are you using?? Are they brass hoops?? Also, I'm not giving you shit but 'crotchets' and 'quavers'?? I'm a drummer and don't understand music talk. I only understand quarters and eighths.

  • @bnb3394
    @bnb3394 2 года назад +1

    Awesome song

  • @officialedge6163
    @officialedge6163 2 года назад +1

    What ride cymbal you using here? Been wondering for years. Looks like Paragon I’m thinking?

  • @John_Doe657
    @John_Doe657 Год назад

    It took me a good 3 listenings but then i got the album. I think young modern is Silverchairs second greatest work but Diorama is a masterpiece out of this world.

  • @dasiajb
    @dasiajb 2 года назад +1

    I don’t care what anyone says. Not even the most seasoned/respected music critic in the world. YM is an amazing album. Period.

    • @visisydandthevoid
      @visisydandthevoid 2 года назад

      I wish I could agree 😞 straight lines was the only song I could get into,.. but I absolutely love it

    • @dasiajb
      @dasiajb 2 года назад

      @@visisydandthevoid Every song on that album is amazing. That’s just my opinion. Straight lines is one of my favorites!

  • @brunoshaka6605
    @brunoshaka6605 2 года назад +1

    You off The beast

  • @decuerrola
    @decuerrola 2 года назад +2

    Who is Tom and why is he kicking in?

  • @CarlysWorld82
    @CarlysWorld82 2 года назад

    👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼💟

  • @JONZO29
    @JONZO29 2 года назад +1

    What is your cymbal set up

  • @rudybickers4191
    @rudybickers4191 Год назад

    haha my dads on the single version

  • @ididedit2450
    @ididedit2450 2 года назад +1

    how funny would it be if these got copyright striked. youtube is crazy sometimes.

  • @williamduffield4964
    @williamduffield4964 2 года назад +1

    straight lines has always sounded like shit, soft rock, to pretty , to dreamy.

  • @Blankpeiceofpaper.
    @Blankpeiceofpaper. Год назад

    I’m not really a fan of the later years of silverchair

  • @ryanpicard6379
    @ryanpicard6379 2 года назад

    Any drummer behind John's sounds good. Character actor

    • @BenGillies888
      @BenGillies888  2 года назад +6

      If that's what you believe then you know nothing of the band or the music industry. You have no idea what you're talking about, ya numbnut.
      Furthermore, every great band has a great drummer. Eat it.

    • @DemocracyManifest
      @DemocracyManifest 2 года назад

      Uninformed dipstick comment Mr Picard, you clearly know next to zero about drums and percussion and furthermore fail to understand the energy between personalities within a band or performance group. Good day to you sir.

    • @simone1351
      @simone1351 2 года назад

      I have recently learnt every good song I like has a good drum 🥁 beat. Silverchair wouldn't be Silverchair without Gillies he's the Grohl