I got this machine and I’ve been very happy with it. I am a collector, not a seller, but it’s been worth what I paid for it as I’ve been able to repair most of the scratched discs I’ve found. It’s also easier to use and less messy than the JFJ Easy Pro.
I have the VMI Quicksand that I use to presand the discs for really bad scratches. Then I use the my Eco Pro 2 for a minute to buff out the disc. Then I switch to the mirror like buffing pads to make the game look semi mint without any swirl marks. Makes game look like new.
When you say semi mint but games look new does that mean they would come out better looking than they did for this guy in this video, would it get rid of all the scratches or still leave a few on the disc as I know how the VMI Quicksand works it stands it down to tiny little scratches leaves it looking cloudy and then you have to use another decent machine to buff out the scratches I used to have a VMI but tried to buff the scratches out myself without spending more money on another machine but didn't work well and didn't want to spend the extra on the VMI Hybrid that did both sanding and buffing I only ask this because I can get the Eco Pro 2 for £430 and once that is paid off might get the VMI Quicksand again if results are really good over buying something like the Eco autosmart that cost thousands?
@@David_Austin as of right now, i wouldnt recommend it. The company decided to change the sanding pads to a new material and they work terribly, they dont remove any scratches at all now. The old pads did a way better job at sanding the discs. I called the company and they said they will only sell these new pads from now on. Because of that, i dont recommend the VMI Quicksand anymore. Too bad too, bcse the machine was a time saver.
@@Browncurse when did u buy the quicksand machine. If u recently bought it, did u get the machine with new gray sanding pads or were they a bluish tint pad. The new blue pads they are using now are crap, they dont sand at all. Ive resorted to making my own sanding pads bcse the new ones suck
@@RickyRicardo135 Funny you should say that as the second time I had the VMI the pads seemed different and not as good, Well at least I now know thank you!
Yeah I just got this machine because I'm starting a business on ebay like you said the squirrels on the disc I think elm USA sells mirror finishing pads that's what I got to prevent that from happening anyway great video
I feel you on the swirl marks with the jfj but the compounds that come with them are shitty! I will give it to you the eco pro for convenience is much better than dealing with the jfj, but I've saved a gnarly looking copy of defjam fight for ny that wouldn't even make it to the ps logo. I since tried recently 3M perfect it ex machine polish #3 and it blew away surpassed any thing I've ever used on the jfj. Even with the different lighting setups I can't see not even 1 mark swirl or scratch! I used the meguiars compound it was ok better than the stuff jfj supplies but the 3M blew everything out of the water.
Hi. With the 3M polish do you just sand the disc down and one step with the 3M polish? Could you explain your process please? Im trying to decide if I should keep my JFJ and try that or move up to ELM. Thank you.
@@M0N3YRul3zALL Sure! Well I would say first step is observe the disc, try to run your fingers to see if you "feel" any of the deep scratches. If the disc contains alot you can sand down to obtain a even layer, I don't go past 10 seconds and usually the soft sand. If after sanding you still see any scratches then I would consider the coarse pad for 5 seconds and re sand with the soft to bring it to a fine grit. Usually with step 1 polish (rubbing compound) it gets most of the scratches out if not all but then I run step 2 (machine polish). I spray the disc with a little water for heat dissipation for each buff. Each compound I run for the same time 1min unless if it's looking really bad then 2 mins. The final compound step 3 (ultimate machine polish) I notice it's good to use a soft buffing pad I use meguiar da #6 which is a black finishing pad it's ment for cars but I cut it down to size I bought the 6in. You could probably get a way with the 5in and just cut a hole in the center to apply it to the jfj it makes a world of difference. I've never seen a disc come out so clean with a mirror polish like I have with the jfj. Not one fine scratch is visible under both types of lighting. I hope this helps if you have any more questions let me know.
@@rubenmejia4881 does the meguiars black polishing pad fits with the JFJ machine thickness wise? Cuz when I tried different polishing pads (other than jfj pads) the disc literally shredded the pad apart. The jfj pads are designed in a way that their thickness wears off over usage unlike other pads, which prevents the disc from shredding them. Any suggestions?
@@mohamedabdoumohamed4642 Excellent question buddy! So just now I used my digital calipers to measure and height wise they are exactly the same which is .75 inches or 3/4in. I ended up cutting with scissors a bit since I bought a 6 inch unaware that a 5 inch was a available. I used a jfj pad as a template to make the center hole so it could sit easily. As many times as I've used it I have not seen it degrade like the other pads and it leaves a really awesome finish like I couldn't believe my eyes when I was looking at the disc. I used the microfiber cloths to clean the glasses with to wipe away any compound that was left over and you will be amazed by the results. If you got any more questions feel free! In case if I didn't explain well.
@@rubenmejia4881 did you ever experience any issues with the disc shredding the polishing pad? I tried 3/4 inch polish pad but still the disc would shred it while spinning. It looks like JFJ is designed to work with pads that degrade when the disc spin so that it won’t get shredded. So, the 3/4 thick megauires polish pad that you are using works fine? No shredding? Thanks
Why not use jfj for sanding then the eco pro for finishing, auto smart is a waste of money if you already have machines. Also FYI, the auto smart will leave swirls more similar to the JFJ and not the Eco pro, it is down to the 2 pad vs 1 pad design. Also since if uses sandpaper, as polycarbonate builds up on them, the finish will get worse over the supply pack. I wouldn't suggest buying it if you are very picky about the finish.
I’ve had experiences with the auto smart by the game stores and have had pretty much flawless results, even for PS1 black discs. I’ve tried so many different methods using the JFJ, which btw has been sold and I’ve encountered nothing but problems with them.
@@jccigarsandvape I saw another vid on youtube where they show swirls afterwards. Most expensive repair machines will give a great finish when all the supplies are new. But once you are not using fresh pads, swirls will show up, theres no way around it. Its the built up residue leaving marks especially with sandpaper. You should try rinsing your final finish pads on eco pro 2 so that every time you use them they are completely black with no white build up. There should be no difference between an eco pro with final finishing pads and an eco smart in terms of how visible the buffing marks are, although the pattern will be different. They use the same pad material.
@@jccigarsandvape ruclips.net/video/d8U27A4IulQ/видео.htmlm4s Discs can come out looking like JFJ if you don''t keep all the sanding pads clean of residue.
I just have a Smackdown vs raw 2008 and it's scratched but not so much because it works, well sometimes it takes time to load or it freezes when it usually loads the game, but in general it works, not so much but it works, I just need to polish it and I don't have that machine :(
How do you like this machine now? From what I've seen, it doesn't get out super deep scratches. Does it make discs with lots of light scratches look mint again?
@@jimlindberg8097 I called customer service and they told me I need finishing pads. So I bought those and they work. Not sure why they just don’t come with it. Just glad I got it figured out.
i have a question does the solution run out fast i did the prime part and i put in a ps2 disk and ran it twice once for 30sec and then for 1min and the polish is about 200ml is this normal the machine it self is awesome :)
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I got this machine and I’ve been very happy with it. I am a collector, not a seller, but it’s been worth what I paid for it as I’ve been able to repair most of the scratched discs I’ve found. It’s also easier to use and less messy than the JFJ Easy Pro.
I have the VMI Quicksand that I use to presand the discs for really bad scratches. Then I use the my Eco Pro 2 for a minute to buff out the disc. Then I switch to the mirror like buffing pads to make the game look semi mint without any swirl marks. Makes game look like new.
I have the VMI Quicksand too and that thing is a piece of garbage for me. Does it work good for you?
When you say semi mint but games look new does that mean they would come out better looking than they did for this guy in this video, would it get rid of all the scratches or still leave a few on the disc as I know how the VMI Quicksand works it stands it down to tiny little scratches leaves it looking cloudy and then you have to use another decent machine to buff out the scratches I used to have a VMI but tried to buff the scratches out myself without spending more money on another machine but didn't work well and didn't want to spend the extra on the VMI Hybrid that did both sanding and buffing I only ask this because I can get the Eco Pro 2 for £430 and once that is paid off might get the VMI Quicksand again if results are really good over buying something like the Eco autosmart that cost thousands?
@@David_Austin as of right now, i wouldnt recommend it. The company decided to change the sanding pads to a new material and they work terribly, they dont remove any scratches at all now. The old pads did a way better job at sanding the discs. I called the company and they said they will only sell these new pads from now on. Because of that, i dont recommend the VMI Quicksand anymore. Too bad too, bcse the machine was a time saver.
@@Browncurse when did u buy the quicksand machine. If u recently bought it, did u get the machine with new gray sanding pads or were they a bluish tint pad. The new blue pads they are using now are crap, they dont sand at all. Ive resorted to making my own sanding pads bcse the new ones suck
@@RickyRicardo135 Funny you should say that as the second time I had the VMI the pads seemed different and not as good, Well at least I now know thank you!
Yeah I just got this machine because I'm starting a business on ebay like you said the squirrels on the disc I think elm USA sells mirror finishing pads that's what I got to prevent that from happening anyway great video
Yah if you are running only ECO PRO 2 mirror finish pads are a must
I haven’t had to use the mirror finish pads, but I’ve used a lot of the scratch removal pads. I could experiment with some of them.
I would like to had this machine, but man are they expensive.
if you do a lot of discs its worth it but if u dont u can try finding a place that uses ELM machines and just do a pay per disc
I feel you on the swirl marks with the jfj but the compounds that come with them are shitty! I will give it to you the eco pro for convenience is much better than dealing with the jfj, but I've saved a gnarly looking copy of defjam fight for ny that wouldn't even make it to the ps logo. I since tried recently 3M perfect it ex machine polish #3 and it blew away surpassed any thing I've ever used on the jfj. Even with the different lighting setups I can't see not even 1 mark swirl or scratch! I used the meguiars compound it was ok better than the stuff jfj supplies but the 3M blew everything out of the water.
Hi. With the 3M polish do you just sand the disc down and one step with the 3M polish? Could you explain your process please? Im trying to decide if I should keep my JFJ and try that or move up to ELM. Thank you.
@@M0N3YRul3zALL Sure! Well I would say first step is observe the disc, try to run your fingers to see if you "feel" any of the deep scratches. If the disc contains alot you can sand down to obtain a even layer, I don't go past 10 seconds and usually the soft sand. If after sanding you still see any scratches then I would consider the coarse pad for 5 seconds and re sand with the soft to bring it to a fine grit. Usually with step 1 polish (rubbing compound) it gets most of the scratches out if not all but then I run step 2 (machine polish). I spray the disc with a little water for heat dissipation for each buff. Each compound I run for the same time 1min unless if it's looking really bad then 2 mins. The final compound step 3 (ultimate machine polish) I notice it's good to use a soft buffing pad I use meguiar da #6 which is a black finishing pad it's ment for cars but I cut it down to size I bought the 6in. You could probably get a way with the 5in and just cut a hole in the center to apply it to the jfj it makes a world of difference. I've never seen a disc come out so clean with a mirror polish like I have with the jfj. Not one fine scratch is visible under both types of lighting. I hope this helps if you have any more questions let me know.
@@rubenmejia4881 does the meguiars black polishing pad fits with the JFJ machine thickness wise? Cuz when I tried different polishing pads (other than jfj pads) the disc literally shredded the pad apart. The jfj pads are designed in a way that their thickness wears off over usage unlike other pads, which prevents the disc from shredding them. Any suggestions?
@@mohamedabdoumohamed4642 Excellent question buddy! So just now I used my digital calipers to measure and height wise they are exactly the same which is .75 inches or 3/4in. I ended up cutting with scissors a bit since I bought a 6 inch unaware that a 5 inch was a available. I used a jfj pad as a template to make the center hole so it could sit easily. As many times as I've used it I have not seen it degrade like the other pads and it leaves a really awesome finish like I couldn't believe my eyes when I was looking at the disc. I used the microfiber cloths to clean the glasses with to wipe away any compound that was left over and you will be amazed by the results. If you got any more questions feel free! In case if I didn't explain well.
@@rubenmejia4881 did you ever experience any issues with the disc shredding the polishing pad? I tried 3/4 inch polish pad but still the disc would shred it while spinning. It looks like JFJ is designed to work with pads that degrade when the disc spin so that it won’t get shredded. So, the 3/4 thick megauires polish pad that you are using works fine? No shredding? Thanks
Why not use jfj for sanding then the eco pro for finishing, auto smart is a waste of money if you already have machines.
Also FYI, the auto smart will leave swirls more similar to the JFJ and not the Eco pro, it is down to the 2 pad vs 1 pad design.
Also since if uses sandpaper, as polycarbonate builds up on them, the finish will get worse over the supply pack.
I wouldn't suggest buying it if you are very picky about the finish.
I’ve had experiences with the auto smart by the game stores and have had pretty much flawless results, even for PS1 black discs. I’ve tried so many different methods using the JFJ, which btw has been sold and I’ve encountered nothing but problems with them.
@@jccigarsandvape I saw another vid on youtube where they show swirls afterwards. Most expensive repair machines will give a great finish when all the supplies are new. But once you are not using fresh pads, swirls will show up, theres no way around it. Its the built up residue leaving marks especially with sandpaper. You should try rinsing your final finish pads on eco pro 2 so that every time you use them they are completely black with no white build up. There should be no difference between an eco pro with final finishing pads and an eco smart in terms of how visible the buffing marks are, although the pattern will be different. They use the same pad material.
@@jccigarsandvape ruclips.net/video/d8U27A4IulQ/видео.htmlm4s Discs can come out looking like JFJ if you don''t keep all the sanding pads clean of residue.
I just have a Smackdown vs raw 2008 and it's scratched but not so much because it works, well sometimes it takes time to load or it freezes when it usually loads the game, but in general it works, not so much but it works, I just need to polish it and I don't have that machine :(
Where do I buy this Machine from?
www.elm-usa.com
Factory refurbished on sale right now
How do you like this machine now? From what I've seen, it doesn't get out super deep scratches. Does it make discs with lots of light scratches look mint again?
Yah the machine is best suited for light and medium scratches, I have gotten the eco AutoSmart as well which is great for heavy scratches
I bought a JFS easy pro gets out the slightly deeper scratches
Does this machine work well for Blu rays?
somewhat. blurays are hard to repair on any machine.
Would he just put disc in. And save us the drama. It is not rocket science.
I’ve not used this on Blu-Ray discs yet, Blu-Rays have the data located closer to the surface than CDs, so they require more careful handling.
I’m getting micro scratches that are going all the way around the disk. Do you have the same problem? Is it the water I’m using?
Just got my brand new machine, EXACTLY the same problem I'm having. VERY disappointing for $1,500
@@jimlindberg8097 I called customer service and they told me I need finishing pads. So I bought those and they work. Not sure why they just don’t come with it. Just glad I got it figured out.
@@retrogameg4721 I still had swirls even with finishing pads. :(
Can the machine do GameCube disc's?
yes u need a gamecube adapter for it which is $14.99
Good machine, but the eco auto smart and eco master win hands down.
yup hence i have both the latters
i have a question does the solution run out fast i did the prime part and i put in a ps2 disk and ran it twice once for 30sec and then for 1min and the polish is about 200ml is this normal the machine it self is awesome :)
The compound that comes with the chip is usually good for 600 mins at least
Does it work with GameCube games ?
yes they have an adaptor for 14.99
You talk too much
That cost tho