Nintendo Sues Palword for Patented Gameplay Mechanics

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  • Опубликовано: 9 ноя 2024

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  • @ChibiReviews
    @ChibiReviews  Месяц назад +110

    FYI: The Patents shown in this video is the Patents in USA. There's more Patents they have in Japan as well that aren't translated

    • @zondor8123
      @zondor8123 Месяц назад +20

      Let's just be honest, copyrighting a gameplay is just dumb and limits creativity for that mechanics being diverged by other studios

    • @haroldnecmann7040
      @haroldnecmann7040 Месяц назад

      F*** gamefreak it's time vote with your wallet

    • @kuraikagemike
      @kuraikagemike Месяц назад

      I don’t think you understand how as a creator, Palworld was insulting to Pokemon. There was no creativity to me. It honestly reminded me of a kid in High school plagiarizing. They see a document changing the wording by about 10% then pass it off as their own. Palworld was Pokemon with slavery and guns. The capture mechanic was a redesign of a Pokeball. Most Pals I have seen are literally copies of Pokemon then they recolored and changed maybe one feature on each. I’m siding with Nintendo what Palworld did was very scummy. Pokemon whether good or bad was a franchise built up for over a decade with over a 1000 Pokemon designs. Palworld blatantly took designs they know people were familiar with and didn’t change them much so they could get people to play their game. Of course this is my opinion from what it looks like. It looks like a bunch of people got together to make a cheap buck off of Pokémon’s fame.

    • @DarkKnight-em7ue
      @DarkKnight-em7ue Месяц назад +2

      ​@@kuraikagemike Have you ever played the game?
      The game is very different from Pokemon, it's actually more like ark survival games.
      The only thing close enough to Pokemon is the anime-looking Pals.

  • @MALØR.34
    @MALØR.34 Месяц назад +231

    Those patents are so vague and should have never been granted. These concepts been in games since the 80s.

    • @AzraelThanatos
      @AzraelThanatos Месяц назад +11

      There's also the potential mess for Nintendo with this if Pocket Pear goes at it the right way...Nintendo does not want to end up being treated as a vexatious litigant with regard to patents which has been happening to a lot of patent trolls more recently. That's in an ignored in court over things kind of result that would devastate them as a company

    • @mrconroy4672
      @mrconroy4672 Месяц назад +1

      @@AzraelThanatosProbably, but there seems to be a solid case. They are going to need Sony to protect and buy them out just in case.

    • @toukoenriaze9870
      @toukoenriaze9870 Месяц назад

      @@mrconroy4672 xbox already did

    • @ronelm2000
      @ronelm2000 Месяц назад +3

      The problem is that even if they weren't granted in the US (I don't believe they are), they are very likely granted in Japan, which makes it scummier.

  • @LivingFire_BurningFlame
    @LivingFire_BurningFlame Месяц назад +278

    Nintendo: "You infringed on our patents!"
    Pocket Pear: "What patents?"
    Nintendo: "Please respect our privacy."

    • @EmmanQuinones5234
      @EmmanQuinones5234 Месяц назад +7

      Reminds me of that ancient facebook post lolol

    • @ShynLamo
      @ShynLamo Месяц назад +22

      Honestly if a company cannot divulge what patents were infringed I think they should not have a case. It like "they stole something of mine!" "Ok what was stolen?" "I can't tell you that's private details"

    • @EmmanQuinones5234
      @EmmanQuinones5234 Месяц назад +12

      @@ShynLamo Agreed 100%

    • @1992holycrap
      @1992holycrap Месяц назад +9

      @@ShynLamo Hope this lawsuit gets dismissed outright.

    • @chriswihulu
      @chriswihulu Месяц назад +5

      @@ShynLamo Nintendo: "Stop making sense or we'll sue you as well!!!"

  • @Jonathan_Collins
    @Jonathan_Collins Месяц назад +235

    It should be illegal to patent a game mechanic or system. The fact that they allow it at all is a travesty and it's 100% stifling to creativity.

    • @GeneralGorillaSonicOC
      @GeneralGorillaSonicOC Месяц назад +1

      Patents exist so I can't steal your ideas and making a profit without getting away with it.

    • @theterminator5676
      @theterminator5676 Месяц назад +22

      ⁠@@GeneralGorillaSonicOC which is bullshit because someone might have an idea on how to expand it and make it better. This is seriously anti consumer and I am surprised a law like this even exists

    • @JAOResnik
      @JAOResnik Месяц назад +5

      Intellectual property doesn't exist in the first place. Acting like it exists causes these kinds of issues

    • @lunarshadow5584
      @lunarshadow5584 Месяц назад

      @@JAOResnik Exactly, nothing is new and everything is a copy of something. "Intellectual Property" is putting money on ideas, an intangible thing that has no true source, especially in eras of one persons passing thought became another's "Intellectual Property".
      Edit: Just came up with an argument against Patents: newly made game mechanics should be treated like "Scientific Breakthroughs" and only be rewarded as such. Coding is nothing more than finding a pattern that already exists, and though digital, it still has results that perfectly replicate situations in the real world such as "WoW's Corrupted Blood" incident or Minecraft being able to perfectly replicate the original mario game using redstone. And because coding is a science and not an art, it shouldn't be barred off with copyright laws but rewarded through allowing the person who discovered it the ability to decide its name and possibly trophies in gamer awards similar to that of "NSA Awards for Scientific Discovery".
      And if you want money from it, then improve upon it yourself instead of putting up a wall of vague copyright like Patents currently are.

    • @nobafan7515
      @nobafan7515 Месяц назад +5

      ​@@GeneralGorillaSonicOCby that logic, sega stole from Nintendo with sonic's platforming mechanics, including jumping jumping on an enemy to defeat them.

  • @PlayerOne.StartGame
    @PlayerOne.StartGame Месяц назад +235

    It's a really awful move to sue a company over a patent, but not even inform them WHAT patent is the issue. It's really gross and just classic Nintendo.

    • @Hc2p3n4t4rp
      @Hc2p3n4t4rp Месяц назад +1

      you do know patents exist for that right?

    • @KamiLeVrai
      @KamiLeVrai Месяц назад +7

      that how lawsuit usually work , you only know the reasons later when lawyers are involve. Most people only talk about lawsuit when they second part happen but i guess modern days now we must talk about it the second it happen

    • @og_3rd_st_saint_gat
      @og_3rd_st_saint_gat Месяц назад +15

      Good thing nintendo will lose if the jury is honest and wasn't bought by Nintendo

    • @Hc2p3n4t4rp
      @Hc2p3n4t4rp Месяц назад +14

      @@og_3rd_st_saint_gat it was made in Japan... they are screwed

    • @og_3rd_st_saint_gat
      @og_3rd_st_saint_gat Месяц назад +15

      @@Hc2p3n4t4rp oh that means they are definitely bought out

  • @regret.932
    @regret.932 Месяц назад +111

    Remember when Monster tried to Sue Nintendo for using the word "Monster" in Pokemon? You'd think these corporations wouldn't do petty shit like this but what goes around comes around I guess.

    • @plasmafonk
      @plasmafonk Месяц назад +5

      Corpos will corpos.

  • @Gymweeb
    @Gymweeb Месяц назад +156

    Ah yes Nintendo, the famous law firm with a gaming division.

    • @DaBaseBallZ
      @DaBaseBallZ Месяц назад +12

      That's not ridiculous
      It's not ridiculous to say that

    • @b.heaven9234
      @b.heaven9234 Месяц назад +2

      Meanwhile, Disney is a law firm that has parks and occasionally makes good movies.

  • @RocSandy
    @RocSandy Месяц назад +177

    Wrap it up folks, i guess riding animals is patented by pokemon 🙏

    • @kanifis
      @kanifis Месяц назад +3

      Ah yeah, thats the only similarity... /s

    • @bencegergohocz5988
      @bencegergohocz5988 Месяц назад +30

      ​​@@kanifis Indeed, Pal designs are pretty similair to monsters in Dragon quest and the game mechanics resemble Shin Megami Tensei. I wonder why?
      /s you nintentard. Pokemon was made exactly like how Palworld was.

    • @actuallyjustbored
      @actuallyjustbored Месяц назад +9

      @@kanifis Man Digimon really should watch out, haha. I really wonder when the hammer is going to come down on them , ahahaha.
      also tone indicators are cringe ngl

    • @RocSandy
      @RocSandy Месяц назад

      @@bencegergohocz5988 "nintentard" I'm dead 😭🙏

    • @powbong7735
      @powbong7735 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@kanifis but what they are actually suing for is the mechanic of capturing monsters with a ball... The original comment is actually a reasonable comparison.

  • @kabob0077
    @kabob0077 Месяц назад +134

    Counter point, *Palworld's gameplay is closer mechanically to Ark and Pocketpair should point that out in court.*

    • @ChibiReviews
      @ChibiReviews  Месяц назад +48

      Mention that in the first 2 minutes

    • @LuigiTheMetal64
      @LuigiTheMetal64 Месяц назад +7

      Nintendo are fine with Youkai Watch.

    • @jamesbond3w
      @jamesbond3w Месяц назад +3

      ​@@LuigiTheMetal64Don't they own Yokai Watch? Of course they're fine with it lol

    • @kuroganeuzumaki5759
      @kuroganeuzumaki5759 Месяц назад +14

      ​@@LuigiTheMetal64Not just Yokai Watch.
      Nexomon, Casette Monsters, Tem-Tem, and even some Pokemon Fan Games.
      Plus, the concept Pokemom has isn't really new either. Shin Megami Tensei AND Dragon Quest have done long before Pokemon.
      By that logic, Atlus and Squire Enix could do the same thing to Nintendo years ago.
      But if I recall, Palworld has a joint venture with Sony too so that is another angle to look at it besides them waiting for Palworld to make enough money.

    • @cheeseycake1
      @cheeseycake1 Месяц назад

      ​@@jamesbond3wNintendo don't own yokai watch that is a Level 5 IP

  • @Flaming_Undies
    @Flaming_Undies Месяц назад +75

    i swear all nintendo do is sue and not improve there sh*t

    • @gamerbeast3616
      @gamerbeast3616 Месяц назад +2

      they improve lol

    • @powbong7735
      @powbong7735 Месяц назад +19

      ​@@gamerbeast3616not by much sadly. I like the modern Pokemon games but it's a slow crawl towards being what I would actually want.

    • @enforcerridley158
      @enforcerridley158 Месяц назад +14

      Nintendo is very innovative and forward thinking on many of their systems and IPs. Of course, Gamefreak's PoKéMoN is not one of them, being stagnant for a long time.

    • @Foogi9000
      @Foogi9000 Месяц назад

      ​@@gamerbeast3616No they fucking don't

    • @EvanmarleyDixon
      @EvanmarleyDixon Месяц назад

      I grew up watching Diamond & perl to xyz
      I know I played black & white to sun & moon ( I can't remember which of them I got other than moon) but never completed any.
      I tried watching sun & moon but couldn't get into it. I recently started watching Horizon & am really enjoying it likely because they finally moved away from the gym battle & tournament formula.
      It's made me realise just how recycled and how much filler the older shows have.
      Simaler to how a few minecraft updates went much more than adding a new mob, the pokemon games from xy onwards have been here's 1 new gimik.

  • @BushidoXBrown
    @BushidoXBrown Месяц назад +51

    You can't be sued for gameplay mechanics, Nintendo is grasping for straws they're trying to intimidate and indie developer because they don't like competition. And they forgot that Microsoft is paired with Pocket pair if you think they're about to give up their version of pokémon that people love then Nintendo has that smoking a lot of crack over there

    • @powbong7735
      @powbong7735 Месяц назад +16

      Sadly you can sue for game mechanics, the more specific the mechanic, the easier it is to win a lawsuit around it. Here's hoping Nintendo actually loses

    • @calvinwilson3617
      @calvinwilson3617 Месяц назад +4

      Yeah this is the problem DnD has. They can't really patent game mechanics which is why there are so many spinoffs.

    • @mrconroy4672
      @mrconroy4672 Месяц назад +3

      Sony is likely going to stand with them and likely buy them out based on their deal. Then the whole case gets settled and it becomes a nothing burger.

    • @soulsemblance3163
      @soulsemblance3163 Месяц назад +7

      ​@powbong7735 since you mentioned this, I believe shadows of war patented its nemesis/fated enemy mechanic which is why we haven't seen it in games lately

    • @lunarshadow5584
      @lunarshadow5584 Месяц назад +2

      @@soulsemblance3163 that knowledge disgusts me to my f*cking core... I love the nemesis system and think that their control over it is too broad that it stops just about everyone from being able to develop their own version. (in other words, monopolizing a mechanic)

  • @Wheathn
    @Wheathn Месяц назад +29

    "they want a mature take" Well, yeah but not necessarily.
    People want a more interactive and immersive experience where it feels like these creatures are actually a part of the world and ecosystem.
    And a survival-crafting game was a great way to do just that. And it's a tragedy that Pokemon never had the Pokeballs to attempt it.

    • @chriswihulu
      @chriswihulu Месяц назад +4

      Take out the guns and survival aspects and I would still have bought it, just because I can literally pet my pals and see them react with joy over it.

  • @KiddBuu_
    @KiddBuu_ Месяц назад +26

    Those patents are so vague that ANY Pokemon inspired game can be sued for patent infringement...

    • @ShynLamo
      @ShynLamo Месяц назад +2

      Not to mention the fact that their patents in some cases could legally be viable to sue the shin megame tensei creators and by extent persona devs

    • @SymphoniaFly
      @SymphoniaFly Месяц назад +1

      @@ShynLamo Shin Megami Tensei came before Pokemon so I don't think they'd be able to.

    • @Jet-ij9zc
      @Jet-ij9zc Месяц назад +5

      ​@SymphoniaFly yeah, but that shows that these patents should have never been granted to begin with

    • @lunarshadow5584
      @lunarshadow5584 Месяц назад

      @@Jet-ij9zc agreed, its too vague a "law" that its monopolizing ideas, something that can't be physically measured.

  • @0x0404
    @0x0404 Месяц назад +21

    A few of those patents can't even be applied. They were filed May 2. Palworld was released mid January. I'd be amazed if those were part of it

    • @wansper9297
      @wansper9297 Месяц назад

      How is this still going around??? Thats the american version of that patent, these are both japanese companies and that patent has been granted in japan last year. American law does not matter in japanese court

  • @Raul_27
    @Raul_27 Месяц назад +9

    I'm 28. My first pokemon game was Ruby. But this lawsuit is scummy and tyrannical.

  • @dagrumblers
    @dagrumblers Месяц назад +18

    You're spot on with the age thing; the youngest relevant group of Pokémon fans are in their mid 20s because, that age group had the DS and Wii.

  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly1997 Месяц назад +31

    Pokémon DOES NOT AND WILL NOT have monopoly on the concept of capturing monsters and having them fight, etc.

  • @lildevin16
    @lildevin16 Месяц назад +31

    So digimon will be next since capturing things are infringement now.

    • @Lunapink93
      @Lunapink93 Месяц назад +5

      They won’t go after Digimon or Temtem because they aren’t using Pokemon assets.

    • @KiddBuu_
      @KiddBuu_ Месяц назад +21

      @@Lunapink93 Palworld isn't using Pokemon assets. That was proven to be false long ago. This isn't about assets, you don't patent assets, you patent concepts and systems.

    • @powbong7735
      @powbong7735 Месяц назад +12

      ​@@Lunapink93this is a patent lawsuit, not a copyright lawsuit.

    • @blackfangex6813
      @blackfangex6813 Месяц назад +12

      @@Lunapink93 Nintento's Sue is about Game mechanics with Digimon, TemTem and many other Games shared with pokemon, way long Before Palworld was even a thing... the main reason is reacting now is because palworld Sold over 17M copies and it exploited a market nintendo refuse to appel for decades

    • @DJPrimeAmvs
      @DJPrimeAmvs Месяц назад

      ​@@blackfangex6813 I honestly doubt it

  • @iterbolt
    @iterbolt Месяц назад +10

    SMT should patent their mechanics and then sue nintendo so that they know how bullshit this is

    • @TheSutanian
      @TheSutanian Месяц назад +1

      To be fair, SMT devs code all of their RNG and encounter mechanics to be algebra level complicated. No one could plagiarize the code of say SMT III in particular with the full moon cycle mechanics.

    • @idannyhtv
      @idannyhtv Месяц назад +1

      SMT is ATLUS. ATLUS is Sega. Nintendo and Sega are partners.

  • @dh7367
    @dh7367 Месяц назад +10

    Its morally right to "pirate" Nintendo games.

  • @ArchonKujo
    @ArchonKujo Месяц назад +74

    Nintendo and GameFreak are just mad that Palworld has been a very successful game, It's because of them that Pokémon hasn't been in its relevancy for a long while.

    • @Gyrokaenzo212
      @Gyrokaenzo212 Месяц назад +7

      They know it's going to snag their whole empire from under them if not stopped. Especially since it's affordable and fun

    • @bencegergohocz5988
      @bencegergohocz5988 Месяц назад +3

      Don't forget Creatures Inc. They also own 33% of the pokemon company like the other 2.

    • @JunFromIT
      @JunFromIT Месяц назад +6

      Nah. Palworld was just a one-time thing. It's not even worth to sue them anymore imo.

    • @blackfangex6813
      @blackfangex6813 Месяц назад +9

      @@JunFromIT They are trying to make them an example so no one tries it again... as many has mentioned many other games had the same Mechanics to pokemon however none of them got the Success that palworld had, even if it was for a short period of time they exploited the market Nintendo refuse to appel for Decades. while maybe Palworld is not the Competition to Pokemon, the Game prove that there is potential for competition against pokemon.

    • @og_3rd_st_saint_gat
      @og_3rd_st_saint_gat Месяц назад +1

      @@ArchonKujo and Nintendo will lose if the yakuza clan known as Nintendo wins they bought the jury

  • @juanhaines7295
    @juanhaines7295 Месяц назад +11

    Hopefully palworld won't get cancelled.

    • @LuigiTheMetal64
      @LuigiTheMetal64 Месяц назад +3

      Pocket Pair are already getting canceled because they support Microsoft and Sony. "Oh, it’s just business," people say. The problem stems from bad business where creators would lose their creative freedom that happened to Metallica before.

  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly1997 Месяц назад +61

    They're only mad because now they have legitimate competition that has forced them to end their years of complacency.

  • @KDB349
    @KDB349 Месяц назад +3

    It feels like a lifetime ago since I've heard anything about Palworld or even Pokemon for that matter. I can't say I looked into Palworld like that so I don't really know what it's overall theme is outside of having creatures similar to Pokemon but I do know that when I first came out people were actually wanting Nintendo to sue the creators of Palworld... Well it looks like they are getting their wish smh.

  • @privateeyety5735
    @privateeyety5735 Месяц назад

    Thanks for the update Chibi!

  • @pauloazuela8488
    @pauloazuela8488 Месяц назад +11

    I was expecting them to sue. But not this stuff. I mean Palword clearly played a lot of inspirational design to the pals that's it's a thin line between a copycat or just inspired. I hope Nintendo loses this one

  • @matthewhostetter8974
    @matthewhostetter8974 Месяц назад +3

    We kinda expected this to happen, but the fact it took over a year for it to do so is crazy, in that time PalWorld has made millions. It's sad to because PalWorld is everything I've wanted from a Pokemon game for a very long time, even if it's crazy with additions of guns. There is a run in the world for both series. The funny part is that most of the characters are distinct enough that I don't see how Nintendo could win this. Also, why not go after TemTem and every other "Pokemon' like game while you're at tit. As a long-time gamer, this is a huge L for Nintendo in my eyes.

  • @zondor8123
    @zondor8123 Месяц назад +5

    The patent is interesting, The US patent was filed in May 2024 and approved in August 2024 while the jp was on 2023. Palworld announced on 2021 and released in 2024 (50/50 chance for both sides)

  • @hysteria2k9
    @hysteria2k9 Месяц назад +4

    I wonder what they will try to patent next ? turn based combat, random encounters or maybe finding items on the ground.

  • @zerron2156
    @zerron2156 Месяц назад +5

    They're suing for damages because it hurts their bottom line when the competition actually tries making a game

  • @Hc2p3n4t4rp
    @Hc2p3n4t4rp Месяц назад +3

    something tells me its not a past years patent, but a more recent patent, Palworld isnt the only game to have done same things, heck, Digimon has a lot of patents pokemon is stepping on the line, but Nintendo does not go for patents in old concepts themselve, but for more recent ones
    kinda like with the AM2R situation, they were already making their own Metroid 2 Remake so having the fan project out and about would take steam out of it, so they filled a copyright

  • @mysetlist2118
    @mysetlist2118 Месяц назад +4

    If Nintendo is sueing based on capture mechanic, they're gonna lose because megami tensei and others i dont know came out long before pokemon

  • @Joestar96
    @Joestar96 Месяц назад +5

    How the hell do you sue someone over GAME MECHANICS?
    As if they own the RPG move-making style or capturing

  • @cooleycollege01
    @cooleycollege01 Месяц назад +4

    Temtem is way closer to pokemon but not a peep, they don't like palworld since it made alot of money and was a mega hit.

  • @JunkoEnoshima.
    @JunkoEnoshima. Месяц назад +3

    Man i forgot about this game. I bought it during the hype, realized my pc gets a bit too hot and i need a cooler. And then months and months have passed

  • @nokayart612
    @nokayart612 Месяц назад +5

    Not surprised they would sue. So Nintendo...

  • @SavantPete
    @SavantPete Месяц назад +9

    Someone said that if they're sueing now, it's because the PalWorld died down in popularity and they have something that could make them win the lawsuit.

    • @ReiseLukas
      @ReiseLukas Месяц назад +17

      Wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of players return to Palworld to protest Nintendo

    • @blackfangex6813
      @blackfangex6813 Месяц назад +2

      @@ReiseLukas it wouldn't be the first time this had happened

    • @Matatoskr
      @Matatoskr Месяц назад +1

      Thats what im thinking. They knew they couldnt sue with the eyes on palworld.
      Also the patent timing too. Seems well planned out...

    • @whitedragonzerureusu4480
      @whitedragonzerureusu4480 Месяц назад +1

      @@ReiseLukas Doing that rn

  • @sumg8694
    @sumg8694 Месяц назад +2

    Nintendo suing Pocket Pair for similar mechanics within Pokemon and Palworld is like if Nintendo sued Hoyo for similar mechanics within Botw and Genshin. You can copyright a character but you can't copyright a game mechanic especially sense DQ and SMT exists, DQ for the monster designs and SMT for the game mechanic.

  • @TommySkywalker11
    @TommySkywalker11 Месяц назад +1

    Considering it's a joint lawsuit with Nintendo and TPC I'm guessing it isn't just pokemon mechanic patents they're going after, there's most likely some Zelda game patents involved too

  • @YourAnimeOtaku
    @YourAnimeOtaku Месяц назад +2

    At this point the people that invested their money into nintendo need to sue nintendo

  • @Ralphboy626
    @Ralphboy626 Месяц назад +4

    In actually gonna be surprised if palworld wins this case. Nintendo is a big corporation, idk how palworld is gonna win this.

  • @0x0404
    @0x0404 Месяц назад +3

    Keeping that beautiful pc in frame is nice

  • @Lorens4444
    @Lorens4444 Месяц назад +2

    Harry Potter: "Snake appears from a magic item."
    Nintendo: "Lawsuit!" XD

  • @Luizanimado
    @Luizanimado Месяц назад +2

    Companies shouldn't have the right to patent mechanics in the first place, Can you imagine if Sony had patent double joystick at the time and no other companie being able to do the same control, that would be stupid.

  • @callofdookie1253
    @callofdookie1253 Месяц назад +3

    this is Creativity Gatekeeping and it should be Illegal.

  • @popatsot1
    @popatsot1 Месяц назад +4

    It is morally right to pirate anything the Pokémon company makes

  • @RGC_animation
    @RGC_animation Месяц назад +4

    You just know Nintendo Ninjas were scrapping and monitoring every INCH of the game to find anything they could possibly sue for.

    • @jkd610
      @jkd610 Месяц назад +1

      I'm glad they did. I'm hoping the Palworld devs go bankrupt, haha.

    • @dissidius13
      @dissidius13 Месяц назад

      yikes, imagine licking the boots of a tyrant. ​@@jkd610

  • @detectiveblutomindpretzel2324
    @detectiveblutomindpretzel2324 Месяц назад +4

    It was bound to happen. The question was when was it gonna happen.

  • @aldolibreri791
    @aldolibreri791 Месяц назад +5

    The sad part is, I can almost guarantee that Nintendo could have just brought Pocket Pair on as a co-man for Gamefreak to help develop future Pokémon spin-off games and Pocket Pair would have been more than happy to join them.
    But that would make too much sense.

    • @chriswihulu
      @chriswihulu Месяц назад +5

      @@aldolibreri791 still recall an article a month or more ago, where the Pocket Pair CEO reacted the news, that other companies wanted to try their hand at what Palworld did and how he felt stoked over it.

    • @jkd610
      @jkd610 Месяц назад +1

      And i hope those companies too get sued by Nintendo till they bankrupt 🙏🏻🤗​@@chriswihulu

    • @SymphoniaFly
      @SymphoniaFly Месяц назад +6

      @@jkd610 Imagine being a shill for a corporation.

    • @jkd610
      @jkd610 Месяц назад

      @@SymphoniaFly imagine being a shill for a rip off game.

    • @chriswihulu
      @chriswihulu Месяц назад +4

      @@jkd610 holding water for the game company, that acts more like a law firm than an actual developer, is sadly not uncommon, but still sad to see. Hope you see the light one day, but I won't hold my breath in anticipation...

  • @Bobrob1597
    @Bobrob1597 Месяц назад +2

    Game developers: throws a ball
    Nintendo: 2 MILLION LAWSUIT
    Jokes aside, if Nintendo gets away with this, there's nothing that can stop them from going after anyone. With Pokemon's support, they've become too big and powerful.

  • @akumaking1
    @akumaking1 Месяц назад +12

    Anyone still buying Nintendo products after this is part of the problem

    • @igorlopes8463
      @igorlopes8463 Месяц назад +4

      In Brasil, we have the saying "Nintendo não se compra, se pirateia", which basically translates tou "You don't buy Nintendo, you pirate Nintendo"

    • @haroldnecmann7040
      @haroldnecmann7040 Месяц назад

      ❤​@@igorlopes8463

  • @Ricewarrior01
    @Ricewarrior01 Месяц назад +2

    Nexomon & Coromon : *sweating profusely*

    • @RealSenatorArmstrong
      @RealSenatorArmstrong Месяц назад

      i mean they dont even try to hide it they have mon in their title

  • @superdrifter-1773
    @superdrifter-1773 Месяц назад +1

    SONY AGAI- oh it’s Nintendo this time

  • @SavantPete
    @SavantPete Месяц назад +8

    I really hope Pocket Pair wins. Nintendo is just too corrupt and very money hungry

  • @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena
    @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena Месяц назад

    I have not played Pokemon since Legends Arceus. The Diamond and Pearl remakes hurt my soul to know exists

  • @eliotwildermann
    @eliotwildermann Месяц назад +1

    Pokemon been stealing designs for decades they would never sue for that 😅

  • @kittentheboss2796
    @kittentheboss2796 Месяц назад +2

    Some of those patents were filed after palworld's release. Of course they are.

  • @dfgd2402
    @dfgd2402 Месяц назад +2

    "Mounting an air object and flying" errrrrrrrr.... SKyim? Mounting dragons and flying on them? What, are they going to go after Bethesda?

  • @soragranda
    @soragranda Месяц назад +1

    Honestly, we need to see what patents, palworld did have tons of stuff that looked outright copies of stuff in Pokémon.
    But is weird also, rick and morty have a game that looked a lot like Pokémon and nothing happen to them.

    • @Reymax164
      @Reymax164 Месяц назад

      It's because PalWorld got popular

  • @HeartlessAlchemyst
    @HeartlessAlchemyst Месяц назад

    At least Warner Bros’ Nemesis system from Shadow of Mordor was unique and complex enough that they had a leg(however flimsy) to stand on when trying to patent a game mechanic. And even that didn’t go through

  • @neerajoshi5473
    @neerajoshi5473 Месяц назад +1

    This will destroy Nintendo‘s reputation forever

  • @TheAllMightyJoe
    @TheAllMightyJoe Месяц назад

    That patent is so loosely written they could sue a fishing game for throwing a net to catch a fish. "You threw an object to catch an animal! It's the same thing, so I'm suing you!" They should be laughed out of court. That is like COD trying to patent using guns, then suing every other shooter ever made. Or Harvest Moon patenting farming and saying no one else can include that mechanic in their games.

  • @igorlopes8463
    @igorlopes8463 Месяц назад

    I was looking into some of them, most are vague, but I am surprised they've patented the design of the vending machines in the games.
    Also, court "cases in japan are one sided for the fillers" explains the Ace Attorney games pretty well

  • @crimsonrose4648
    @crimsonrose4648 Месяц назад +3

    Bruh when is anyone gonna bring Nintendo to court for the clear evident anti trust/anti competitive behavior they seem to love so much?

    • @matteomastrodomenico1231
      @matteomastrodomenico1231 Месяц назад

      They have plenty of indie games similar to Pokémon on the Switch, so there isn't really any anti-competitive behaviour.

  • @youknow_nothing
    @youknow_nothing Месяц назад

    I don't think is random that they decided to sue for a patent, this reads more like "don't try to compete with Pokémon" more than "you are using my characters". By suing for the patent they are making sure that they have no competition.

  • @SaveTheSunF1R3x
    @SaveTheSunF1R3x Месяц назад

    oh wow i've been following you forever on twitter and just now found out you had a youtube channel lmao.

  • @bluelyoko1041
    @bluelyoko1041 Месяц назад +1

    this patent lawsuit not copyright this could affect all monster catching game like Nexomon 3 Azur promilia

  • @Alte.Kameraden
    @Alte.Kameraden Месяц назад +1

    Time for consumers to speak up. If Nintendo cares so much about it's image, I wonder what piles of burning Switches will look for their image. It isn't like they don't break anyways on consumers.

  • @90snetworkproductions79
    @90snetworkproductions79 Месяц назад +1

    I seen this coming since last year 😂
    Cuz ain’t no way did this game make history on Steam without Nintendon’t having something to say. 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @battlefieldandcodarefun1020
    @battlefieldandcodarefun1020 Месяц назад +1

    Theres no way their actually go after them for game mechanics...

  • @jeremywinston1
    @jeremywinston1 Месяц назад +2

    Nintendo is gonna lose the lawsuit if the palword team is prepared enough.

  • @TheBlackOtaku
    @TheBlackOtaku Месяц назад

    You know what this lawsuit reminds me of, when DC comics in the late 60’s try to sue Fawcett Publications the company who publish the captain marvel aka Shazam comics because DC thinks that Shazam was a huge ripoff of Superman.

  • @dareka9425
    @dareka9425 Месяц назад

    The previous season of PUBG Mobile has players ride on flying manta rays. The season before players were riding on the floating half of a mecha. A couple of season before a pteranodon. And the hoverboards several seasons ago.
    Oh, there were also thematic throwable projectiles that capture players instead of killing them.
    I can't wait for Nintendo to sue EVERY game dev in existence because apparently they hold the patents to all basic game mechanics in the world.

  • @nullpoint3346
    @nullpoint3346 Месяц назад

    _Corporations should not benefit from Intellectual Property Protections Laws._
    Patents should not be able to prevent things from being made, absolutely the owner of a patent should get a cut in the money the person using the patent ears.

  • @neofulcrum5013
    @neofulcrum5013 Месяц назад +2

    It was fun while it lasted

  • @bencegergohocz5988
    @bencegergohocz5988 Месяц назад +5

    0:36 ohh nooo, not pokemons very own and unique designs that deffinitly don't resemble Dragon Quest whatsoever!

  • @ThatLeaf
    @ThatLeaf Месяц назад +1

    They're using the shotgun approach to either exploit or ir remove the competition.

  • @bastionsea2829
    @bastionsea2829 Месяц назад

    The most amusing thing is that people are assuming it's something in the game now. If that was the case, palworld never would have launched. It has to be something new, I would assume a new patch adds a new mechanic, and because of this lawsuit, we'll never see it in all likely hood
    This is literally what people wanted since palworld's release
    There are countless fan games that use the 'copywrited' mechanics, and they're left alone

  • @Trackaxion
    @Trackaxion Месяц назад +1

    I would think that patenting a game mechanic would essentially be creating a monopoly.

  • @KingofDiamonds117
    @KingofDiamonds117 Месяц назад

    Posted a video about this early this morning, I was obviously upset.

  • @ammaranuar2544
    @ammaranuar2544 Месяц назад +7

    Bro, pokemon fans were BEGGING and PRAYING for this.
    Both them and Nintendo are just disgusting

    • @viruschris3160
      @viruschris3160 Месяц назад +2

      I’m a Pokémon fan and I’m disgusted by this.
      Let other Monster Taming games exist!

    • @haroldnecmann7040
      @haroldnecmann7040 Месяц назад +1

      Hoping pokemon sales gonna tank so hard soon.

    • @ammaranuar2544
      @ammaranuar2544 Месяц назад +3

      @@haroldnecmann7040 I really hope Nintendo loses the case

    • @matteomastrodomenico1231
      @matteomastrodomenico1231 Месяц назад +1

      Begging for an Ark clone?

    • @ammaranuar2544
      @ammaranuar2544 Месяц назад +2

      @@matteomastrodomenico1231 Begging for their big daddy Nintendo to sue Palworld duh

  • @xpallodoc1147
    @xpallodoc1147 Месяц назад

    If some one sued me in Japan it almost wouldn’t matter unless US courts recognized the judgment

  • @davidkuykendall3778
    @davidkuykendall3778 Месяц назад

    When I played that game I immeadiatly got addicted to it and it was fun as hell then I dropped it all of a sudden.good times.

  • @AbyssalSoda
    @AbyssalSoda Месяц назад +1

    You can't patent game mechanics, literally part of the reason PUBG lost to Fortnite

  • @Espurr.8
    @Espurr.8 Месяц назад +1

    This feels petty and when it comes to pokemon games new or old i don't see the difference

  • @Spectacure
    @Spectacure Месяц назад +13

    Nintendo being Scummy-tendo again… no big deal💀

    • @gamerbeast3616
      @gamerbeast3616 Месяц назад

      they not scummy lol

    • @ReiseLukas
      @ReiseLukas Месяц назад +2

      ​@@gamerbeast3616 yes they are. Making nothing innovative in years and tearing down a competitor who is

    • @rannel7644
      @rannel7644 Месяц назад

      @@ReiseLukas Nintendo still makes good first party games if you look past Pokemon that is

    • @og_3rd_st_saint_gat
      @og_3rd_st_saint_gat Месяц назад

      @@gamerbeast3616 they are a yakuza clan

    • @haroldnecmann7040
      @haroldnecmann7040 Месяц назад

      ​nintendo didn't make pokemon but a lazy incompetentcompany known as gamefreak does@@rannel7644

  • @wansper9297
    @wansper9297 Месяц назад

    I like palworld and all but I am kind of with the japanese audience which is more on nintendo's side. I dont like Palworld playing the indie game card when they are literally working closely with sony lately and made a whole lot of money. And frankly I do agree that pocketpair was being somewhat disrespectful towards the pokemon company with the entire way they constructed palworld. In the end we'll see what the courts say.
    To clarify in japan people dont seem to think that those patents shouldn't exist. They moreso have a stance of "well they exist so nintendo is being very merciful and nice when they don't enforce em". Apparently nintendo has a valid pattent on the onscreen joystick for mobile games but thats still widely used bc nintendo is "being nice"

  • @635574
    @635574 Месяц назад

    Palworld the ark with pokemon elements.

  • @jonp799
    @jonp799 Месяц назад

    Should mention that the CEO of Pocketpair is a scumbag. The lead character designer just admitted the CEO told his staff Nintendo won't sue and to "make top 100 Pokemon". So the AI pokemon thing was a lie.
    Full quote MTL:
    don't care if it's a breach of contract. More than that, as a former character designer involved, will never forgive you. First, the CEO said:
    "I know Nintendo, so can't sue them right away."
    And the second instruction to me was, "Please create a design that will be ranked within the top 100 in the Pokemon popularity rankings."

  • @justsomeguywithamustache2901
    @justsomeguywithamustache2901 Месяц назад +4

    Chibi what are your thoughts on boruto 😊

  • @lunarshadow5584
    @lunarshadow5584 Месяц назад

    ...So that's why there isn't a nemesis system in more games? We only have 2 games with that unique and fun mechanic that should be explored more because some sh*t head in the government decided on this bs form of law that allows people to put a price tag on "Ideas" and "creativity"?
    I don't know what to say other than it isn't video games that's making me violent right now.
    Edit: and now that I've cooled my head a bit, I thought of an argument against Patents as they currently are. The creation of a gaming mechanic down to its core is nothing more than what scientists do every time they make breakthrough discoveries in the field of science and should only really be rewarded as such. It isn't a copyright but a way to put your name engraved in books forever as the discovery is named after/by the person/people that discovered it. If the goal for making such a discovery is money, then improve upon the system and sell it instead of weighing everyone else down by setting up such vague copyright laws to prevent others from improving upon your discovery of a formula that is so easily recreated.

  • @natoriousthehopeful2786
    @natoriousthehopeful2786 Месяц назад

    I know this is completely unrelated, but I really do think you should start that gaming channel Chibi🎮

  • @vng
    @vng Месяц назад

    Nintendo and The Pokemon Company probably had put together a case months ago, but the trigger for this lawsuit probably came from Pocketpair trying to tie up with Sony and Aniplex. Once Sony and Aniplex enter the picture, Nintendo and friends cannot just sit around and do nothing.

  • @DJPrimeAmvs
    @DJPrimeAmvs Месяц назад

    Imma hold my breath because there likely more stuff going on that we dont know about.
    But given people reacting are from the west theyre gonna make opinions before we actually get all the facts

  • @wakkaseta8351
    @wakkaseta8351 Месяц назад

    This sounds on par with Magic the Gathering patenting the act of turning a card sideways. Didn't Nintendo also try patenting the concept of a touch screen back when they made the Nintendo DS?

  • @eherden2169
    @eherden2169 Месяц назад

    I wish someone patented the gatcha system in mobile games so almost nobody could use them in new games.
    For this case Nintendo wont innovate much in Pokemon games because the franchise is simply successful as it is and from what I see this patent issue is to impede competition in the market.

  • @robjoker3786
    @robjoker3786 Месяц назад +1

    Since when they can copyright game mechanics?

  • @toukoenriaze9870
    @toukoenriaze9870 Месяц назад

    the patent was published after the game had already been released for months ... this should have never even been allowed to even see the light of day to begin with ... they are not in the legal right at all here

  • @setsers1
    @setsers1 28 дней назад +1

    Pathetic.

  • @BushidoXBrown
    @BushidoXBrown Месяц назад

    The nemesis system engine is patent not the gameplay. A video came companies were able to patent gameplay then it would effectively create a monopoly other smaller developers would not be able to compete