Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: Panzer III Part 1
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- The new episode of Inside the Chieftain's Hatch is about the German Panzer III tank. In part 1, Nicholas Moran examines the tank’s exterior and talks about the 50 mm L/60 gun being mounted to the vehicle despite the protests of experts, how the primary way to start the motor is by hand and not with an electric starter, and an unusual bin with a wooden lining. Enjoy!
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Wood liners in the storage bins would help a surprising amount reducing rust on tools stored in them. Something largely forgotten now that stainless steel is so predominant.
Future series: Chieftain ranks tanks based on their stowage ability. Let's make it happen!
"Oh bugger, the tank's full." instead of "Oh bugger, the tank's on fire" or "Oh bugger, the tracks are chattering"?
@Breezy Mods What you find dull, I find interesting.
Speaking as an ex-Armor officer of 25 years experience, stowage space is vastly underrated by civilians. In the field your tank is your rolling home - you work, eat, sleep, crap, write letters home and read the return mail, and any other task imaginable either in or on board the vehicle. You need a place to stow all you stuff so 1) it doesn't get in the way 2) it isn't oil soaked with ground in dust and dirt. That bustle bin would have been a godsend to a DAK tank crew. It gets COLD in the desert at night, so that would be where you stowed your greatcoat, gloves, scarf and sleeping bag, spare uniform items etc) And it would be where you stowed the little things you had accumulated along the way to make life a bit more livable. (Schnapps, vino, candy, tobacco, folding stove and fuel, etc)
On their turret monster ability
My favorite early war tank. Glad you finally did it. 👍
"The other minor detail was the fact that anti-tank guns were starting to become quite dangerous to tanks"
Lmao
"Escape hatch" - I suppose a 'serious emotional event' can provide sufficient motivation to force a human through a gap that looks scarcely big enough to allow a spaniel through it
You'd be surprised how small the human body can become with minimal effort. There's actually a really extensive report by the US army on body mechanics for just such purposes. If you're talking about how best to cram a bunch of guys into an armored vehicle, it's good to know how tightly you can reasonably pack them
"We tend to start on the outside going over the main points of interest" - translates to "Well talk about Mr Morans track tensioning fetish" ;)
As a toddler, The_Chieftain's stroller was fully tracked, of course. His mother was wheeling him out of a Tesco supermarket, turned a bit too quickly, and threw a track. Young Chieftain was scarred for life and monitors track tension the way I monitor tire pressure on my cars and trucks/lorries.
Dave Hopkin Tighter....TIGHTER.... NOT ENOUGH TENSION TIGHTER DAMNIT!!!
This is probably my favorite tank of all time
If I could make a request, and if it would be possible, I would like to see a "Chieftain's Hatch" episode regarding the American turreted T-series heavy tanks (T29, T30, T32, and/or T34).
T32 no longer exists, and there are many other American heavy tanks with a T prefix. It was standard for all equipment to have a testing 'T number' before being approved for large scale adoption under an M number. T1 and T43 heavy tanks are ones that immediately come to mind.
That said I'd love to see a T29, T30 or T34, whichever of the group can be found in the best condition.
@@Maus5000 Wait, all T32s were scrapped? Dang.
I was aware of the T prefix referring to pre-production prototypes (such as T1 and T28 as well as the ones I had mentioned). I'd called them "T-series" because they never reached production status like the T1 (M6) and T43 (M103).
@@XtreeM_FaiL Mostly. They mainly differed in the gun:
T29: 105mm T5E1.
T30: 155mm T7.
T34: 120mm T53.
Such a difference may seem small, but they would create quite a difference in internal space to accommodate the differing breeches.
You gotta love the tank that carry in his back the war for almost 2 entire years
The entire war if you include the StuG variants on its chassis ;)
I agree but Poland and France were a Panzer II & I / 38t Operation as a whole, they just outnumbered the III's / IV's & StuG's
That's an escape hatch? How small were the crewmembers for this tank
They were crewed with highschool girls back then ;) watch Girls Und Panzer
PANZER VOR!
Apparently LLenn size
they went hands first like you're diving into a pool head first from a diving board
They were considered small even back then and in winter wearing winter gear you weren't going to going out the side.
@@Anlushac11 there was no size difference except theres more fat fucks then there was
Great to finally see another "traditional" Inside the Hatch.
For all its flaws the panzer 3 is still my favourite tank, I'm glad you did this inside the hatch!
I'd go with the Panzer 4 as my favourite WW2 tank especially once it got the upgraded long 75mm gun and extra armor. My all time favourite tank though would have to be the T-72 I'm just wierd like that.
@@wetlettuce4768 Sit inside a T72 and you may change your mind. At 5'6 I fit perfectly in a tank and even I found the T72 cramped. More importantly auto load always make me nervous; God help you if something ever fails. Call me old school but I really like having a loader. On the other hand, a smaller tank is a smaller target...
I'm 6'1 I've been in a T-72 and the commander and gunner positions are a bit tight but useable for me the drivers position however is way too cramped for me I have no where to put my legs lol. Guess I have a soft spot for it becuase it's likely the oldest tank you can take onto a modern battlefield and not look like a complete joke to the enemy.
Finally the Panzer III appears. My favorite of the early-war tanks.
"early-war" lol they were using these till 1945
@@zacht9447 Not as a tank in 1th grade combat units.
@@henrikhilskov 1st* also yes it was panthers and tigers were incredibly rare not to mention they usually broke down before even reaching the lines
@@zacht9447 they didn't break down reaching the line... but leaving it...
Reaching it was done using railroad
@@unknownip6741 railroads only go so far and usually they were the first thing the allies bombed also yes most didn't even reach the front before abandonment
I've been waiting for ages for another inside the chieftains hatch video. I love seeing the inside of tanks. Along with massive amounts of infomation.
"If you can't tell if it's a Panzer 3 or 4, just count the road wheels and divide by two."
Or just count the return rollers.
Unless skirts are fitted...
Doesn't work with late Pz 4 Ausf. J, which had only three return rollers per side.
Going to get in the StuG III next for comparison?
Psiberzerker see Tank chats.
@@bobbylee2853 That's the Tank Museum. I want to see INSIDE the Hatch. Thank you. (That being said, I thoroughly enjoyed that chat, but he just stands there talking. So did Lindybeige. He doesn't crawl around in there, and show us all the positions.)
"You'd better hope that your transmission didn't break down all that much." Fateful words when talking about the transmission in a WW2 German tank.
Interesting Video, as always Chieftain - your channel has become one of my regular stops on RUclips. Thanks for the effort!
I'm a simple man, I see an Inside the Chieftain's Hatch video, I watch it until the end and eagerly await the next part/leave a like.
I'm really excited to see the upload of him going over and through a Tiger I.
I love the early German tanks panzer 1-3 just so classic
Wargaming needs to get someone for this job that knows more about tanks than what he learned on the History Channel.
My favorite German tank
THIS IS AMAZING OMG I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR SOO LOOOONG
Finally! I've been waiting to see the inside of this thing!
My favorite panzer! Well, actually the ausf H is my favorite... I was waiting 4 this. I'm glad to see you back again, man... Does anybody knows how fast can a panzer 3's turret make a full circle?
+1
4:28 Thought a Stuka was diving in for a second.
Finally he did the panzer 3
0:34 The Treaty of Versailles was not signed in a railway car. The armistice was signed in a railway car. The Treaty of Versailles was signed in the Hall of Mirrors in the Palace of Versailles.
The wooden lined bin on the track shield is clearly a humidor for cigars.
My panzer iii fun fact. It has the same headlight fitting as a grey Ferguson tractor. Apparently when tank museum were renovating their panzer 3, it was the only one they could find that fitted the mounting...if you look closely on a close up you can see the picture of Ferguson tractor embossed on the glass!
My favorite teir III tank in wot
I've been waiting for this review for A while now . Just got to wait for the stug iii and the panzer iv. Cheers, always enjoy your content.
You know, I'm not a huge fan of World of Tanks, but I have to admit, without it there wouldn't be this enormous wealth of in-depth content on WWII and early cold-war tanks. The Tank Museum is also great, but The Chieftain has so much to say on the specific features of each tank that you just don't get elsewhere.
The plethora of books published in the decades before WoT was even released would like to have a word with you. The "enormous wealth of in-depth content" has always been there, it has never been dependent on a videogame, something that those of us with an actual interest in these vehicles have long been aware off.
Thank you, Mr. Moran. I've been waiting a long time for this Hatch video. It was worth the wait.
He didn’t talk about the cupola, it was a rather unique part of the tank and somewhat revolutionary for the time, if I remember correctly it can also be rotated.
CORRECTION: later models of the cupola had a rotating band on top to mount the MG 34 AA mount.
The off-center belt buckle ruined everything!
;)
Hey i love your museum :)
You are not the first to mention that either.
Those welds are sweet
Thank god the music... i love it
My favorite german tank, it sits on my desk, watching
With a blunt-point uncapped AP shot or shell, the cross-over point where sloping a typical forged WWII US Army RHA/British MQ homogeneous, ductile chromium-nickel steel armor plate backward becomes better at stopping penetration due to glancing rather than just making a vertical plate thicker and stopping the shell by slowing it to a complete stop prior to it making a complete penetration, so that both plates weigh the same amount, is at about 45-50 degrees from the vertical or more. In the sloped-plate case, you do not want to damage the shell, since a broken projectile has its ability to ricochet suppressed (the shell nose no longer can pull the rest of the shell away with it if it glances off) and pieces of the middle and lower body might penetrate through a smaller opening than would allow an intact projectile through. In the thickened vertical plate case, you most definitely want to break the shell, particularly the nose, so that it has to make a bigger hole and thus cannot penetrate as deeply into a given thickness of armor at a given striking velocity -- face-hardened armor may, under a limited set of conditions, be superior at low impact angles when it can break shells, all other things being equal, but NEVER at high obliquity.
🤩🤩🤩🤩 Nathan Okun! (fanboi squeal)
Chieftain,
This REVIEW, much OVERDUE, THANK YOU
Cigar humidor at 9:50.
I'm thinking that the wood lined box held a 12v work lamp that had a roll of wire with clips that fastened to battery posts.
Chieftan - two words "Gig Line"! :)
glad im not the only one driven mad lmao
_"Zusatzpanzer"_ German pronunciation so good that it makes sense to add a finer point at this juncture: stress is on the first vowel, not the second one, and the second one should also be shorter.
Man! Super excited that I have a new one to watch.
Looks like I will go to my grave without seeing part 2
The Treaty of Versailles wasn't signed in a railway car. The armistice was.
And easier way to tell the difference between panzer 3-4 is the return rollers. The panzer 3has 3 the panzer 4 has 4 simple. You can count the road wheels but it takes way longer.
"sloped armor wasn't worth the effort"
WHATTTTTT!!!
It really wasn't. The compartment fighting ability of the T-34 was abysmal due to how little room it had, that's why a lot of them got destroyed early in the war.
I've seen this at the Australian armoured artillery museum in smithfield and panzer 1to 4 and the panther tank
Wooden Box, our Blasting crew has an entire wooden truck to reduce sparks near the explosives. I suspect the wooden box holds some kind of explosives. It is on the outside, to protect the crew from it.
Ahhh, nice to see the regular format again. I even like the background theme!!
At 5:48 mark, he references Hillary comments regarding sloped armor. See the "Think Tank 2012" panel discussion in 12 parts also on RUclips. Fantastic use of four hours for tank fans.
Yes, was a wonderful way to eat up part of a 16 hour drive.
Wuld love to see the Chieftain trying to escape out of those side hatches!
Panzer III, yes!! My favorite series of German armor! Looking forward to part 2.
Episode 2?
can't find it either
Not out yet, i guess another week or so
Its been a month now
@@adamzych3519 well i said "another week or so" which was about right, because it's up now.
Ahh... that brusque BG music, WOT's Chieftains hatch is back.
It actually makes me happy to hear that background music. I really hope that they don't change it to something else.
@@Shepard_AU I prefer the videos when there's no background music, but I don't really have a problem with it. It's not really that noticeable and it's pretty catchy, which is the exact right mix for background music.
Oh cmon rivets work just fine, what's the worse that can happen, the crew becoming organic rivet storing bags?
Been waiting for freaking years for this!!!!!!!
Do Tiger 131 next PLEASE!!! I know it's been done but not in your style. King tiger after that would be cool too.
why waste time and money for film crew to do a video there actual are on the market you can just restat that. Please do reviews of tanks there is not current on youtube.
Thank you :) I enjoy these series inside the hatch
Great video, can't wait for part 2! Germany really didn't understand the concept of field repair, did they?
When can we expect part 2? I saw the video saying that some of your stuff got lost while moving and I'm assuming the footage for part 2 was on a hard drive that got lost. Have they tracked down your stuff yet?
Tell me what you want the pz3 is the best looking ww2 german tank, it's low,it's wide , i love it
Despite, it’s short comings, it robustly fought throughout the war, possibly because of all issues with Panther. At the start it was undoubtedly the best, but had issues with Mattel 2, and early T34 armour. Ultimately the arrival of Sherman. I was surprised to learn about 40 were at Normandy with two Panzer Divisions.
Bed can wait, Panzer III!!!
The armistice was signed in a railroad carriage, the treaty of versailles, was signed, well in the palace of versailles.
Yes finally! Thanks mate!
If i remember correctly there was a plan to upgrade the Panzer IIIs 50mm to the 75mm on the late war Panzer IV variants.
They were going to trash the original turret and slap on the Panzer IV Turret.
Wah-lah! you got a homemade Panzer III/IV, unlike the sloped variant.
Great video. I've been waiting for the Pz III a long time!
Andy Paine See Tank talk.
@@bobbylee2853 Thanks! I've seen it and don't get me wrong, but it wasn't like the Chieftain's videos. He talks about tanks from the crewman's perspective. When I was younger I spent quite a bit of time on tanks and I really appreciate hearing (and seeing) what its like to have to function on a tank.
Yes! Chieftain! What a good suprise! 😍
0:58 Hey that's a Valentine hahaha
between General Fromm and General Beck they did everything they could to minimize the panzerwaffe as an arm of decision.....
Tanks have something in common with fighter jets across the world. There is an absolute height/weight limit for crew members. I have known several fighter pilots. None have been beyond 6 foot 1 inch, weight had to be in proportion.
I am certain height is much greater limiter and with fighter pilots even body proportions matter. Read about applicant who was extremely fit for training, but had slightly too long thighs. When he would eject his knees and everything beneath them would either stay in airplane or follow as bloody mush dangling from his legs. He was rejected.
Soviet engineers thoroughly studied this tank during the war and greatly approved of the design.
looking at that escape hatch at the side of the panzer 3....game me the heeby jeebies just trying to imagine attempting to squeeze through....omfg.
The problem with the constant looping music is that once you have noticed it, it becomes overwhelmingly distracting. I’ve watched loads of his videos and everyone complains in the comments about the music; one would have thought that he would have got the message by now. The thing is, the content is excellent and really doesn’t need the music. Keep up the great work but please, please turn the tunes off.....
You had me at "pull the turret"
Can hardly wait to see the inside! I sure would like to see an "inside the pzkpfw II" sometime :-)
Finally!
Great video. Waiting for more!
WHERE IS PART 2
Great content, looking forward to part 2!
Great stuff , keep these videos coming
You will sometimes here mechanics say "The people who designed this should be required to work on there own products, ease of maintenance would improve very quickly.
I can't wait to see the inside! -Sweet_Fox
Ok I know some people may know this but Panzer in English means tank so Panzer III means Tank III.
I found My jaw had literally dropped when I realized you had to unbolt the whole tank just to replace the transmission...no wonder they lost
This is the best looking tank ever
The only thing that really gets me these days is how the Panzer III ingame still has the piss poor penetration of 67mm on the main 50mm L/50 cannon when that was packing 98mm of pen at 10 meters, 91mm at 100 and more then 80mm+ at 500 meters. don't even get me started on the gimped L/48 and L/70 cannons or the poor American M1 and M2 76mm's.
ARE we going to see Part II of this??????
The rolling escapehatch
The cigar-box is nice.
@9:20 Those pins would just be sheared off and replaced rather than hammered straight.
The transmission went in my sherman. I'll order one from auto zone and wait 4 to 6 weeks and wait patiently for it it be delivered to Darmstadt
I love the video on Panzer III. Please do one on the M551 Sheridan.
Love this tank, it's really unique and was looking forward to a review on this one. Side note, I used to love this tank in WOT Blitz until 5.5 - it's been butchered.
When wil part 2 come?
that face when a pz3 has more gears that ur project car