00:01 老頑固（Doctor Gradus ad Parnassum ） 01:53 大象的催眠曲（Jimbo’s Lullaby） 04:58 洋娃娃小夜曲（Serenade for the Doll） 06:44 粉雪飛舞（The snow is dancing） 08:51 小小牧羊人（The little Shepherd） 10:41 黑娃娃的步態舞（Golliwog’s Cake Walk）
OMG, I never thought I'd live to hear Debussy himself playing this piece. I must say, I've been playing it for about 50 years but never was able to play it as fast as he did. Oh well.
The main thing is: did you enjoy the piece playing it. After all, this recording is a snapshot in time. Debussy may have played slower tempi at other times. Secondly, I understand that someone restored an old piano to play the roll on, and made the modern digital recording from it. But who knows if they got it right. It is still an old mechanism they tinkered with. Maybe the machine used to run a bit slower in the past.
@@micaelat3734 I've always loved playing it. It's been one of my favorite pieces and the first one I play when I'm trying to revive my repertoire. I once performed The Children's Corner to a good-sized audience. Boy was I nervous! But it went well once I got into the music and forgot myself.
@@josephlaredo5272 Interesting. I was unaware of this. But then I haven't heard too many composers playing their own music. I'll have to pay attention.
I believe this recording was also recorded or at least remastered in 78 rpm records. I remember that I listened to Jimbo's Lullaby in Rio in 1991 during the musical analysis test for my admission to organ graduation at the Federal University of Rio de Janeiro. On the other hand I have a recording with Robert Casadesus as performer.
Esto es tan maravilloso, su vida fue tan turbulenta y aun asi pudo componer obras tan perfectas como esta. Siento que persnas como él no las merece el mundo.
J'ai longtemps cru que c'était le seul enregistrement "audio" (donc pas sur un piano mécanique type Welte mignon) de Debussy. En effet, le toucher semble assez véridique, avec quelques négligences digitales et irrégularités rythmiques maladroites compréhensible chez quelqu'un qui se consacrait avant tout à la composition. Sans doute lié à la date d'enregistrement, Welte mignon ayant fait des progrès dans la restitution des nuances. Hélas, on n'entendra jamais le véritable toucher de Debussy. Le tempo du docteur gradus est incroyablement rapide, personne ne joue comme cela.
Exception de Rachmaninov ( enregistrements remasterises et non piano-roll ) les compositeurs joueraient moins bien que leurs interprètes : à mon avis c'est logique 100/100 le compositeurs y met son Âme et peut importe la technique , ne serait ce pas Alfred Cortot dans ce sens qui s'identifiait même hors piano à Frderick Chopin ? ? Il est à préciser que Alfred Cortot refusait une seconde prise ( une faute dans op25-12 enregistrement original de 1933 et qu'on ne retrouve pas dans sa seconde version en 1944 à Londres ) . Personnellement je ne pense pas que le Compositeur puisse penser un instant à la technique , à l'erreur , à un trait pianistique aussi qui puisse attirer l'attention du Public : ce sont les interprètes qui y songent pour se demarquer de leurs confrères et s'attirer les faveurs du Public . D'après les écrits les compositeurs se produisent très peu en public par rapport aux nombre d'heures passées à la composition : compositeurs et Interprètes n'ont pas le même objectif et c'est celui qui se rapproche le plus du Compositeur qui donne la meilleure version de la pièce jouee . Le plus grand interpréte est celui qui se sert de la tech que comme un moyen et non comme une fin . Debussy joue ce qui ressent et peu importe si ça plait ou non de toute façon n'a t il pas écrit " dans une salle de Concert un auditeur sur mille me comprend " ? Il avait raison quand on voit sur Y T 1,2 K pour Lisista avec La Campanella et France Clidat qui a un petit 34 Like en jouant la même pièce ! !
@@alainspiteri502 Bonjour Alain ! j'ai vu que vous citiez debussy, auriez vous la source ? je suis à la recherche décrits de debussy que je ne trouve pas... merci
@@TentativeMusique comme pour W Nijinsky , Nina Vyroubova il y a " les cahiers de Nijinsky " " les cahiers de Nina Vyroubova " j'ignore l'origine du terme les cahiers qui rassemblent leurs mémoires leurs pensées leurs lettres écrits à leurs amis ; ce terme n'existait pas encore a l'époque de Georges Sand on en était encore resté tt simplement au terme de " Lettres " tout court comme du temps de Madame de Sévigné ; jai lu en son temps des écrits de Debussy et cette phrase célèbre " dans une salle de concert un Auditeur sur mille me comprends " les écrits de Debussy sont " les cahiers " . cest peut être prétentieux mais je pense la même chose , la musique est un langage que l'on apprends pas on la comprends ou non, ce qui est grave avec un soliste cest que cest idem , peu de pianiste comprenne ce qu'ils jouent et tombe dans une recherche de leur interprétation qui les conduits à des records époustouflants dans ce qu'ils font mais à mon avis ils perdent le sens de l'expression musicale qu'ils jouent et le public idem plus grave la critique musicale des interpretations comparées sur France Musique sy est mise aussi quand jai ecoute en partie leur débat sur la sonate op35-2 de Chopin en éliminant d'office le record de Rachmaninov de 1933 : FM na pas compris ce que signifie la Sonate Funèbre de Chopin pour avoir éliminé au départ celle de Rachmaninov , ce nest pas mon choix ici mais je pense sincèrement que Rachmaninov était mieux placé qu'un Alain Lompech pour avoir compris ce que signifie la sonate funèbre de Chopin , ce nest pas ici un choix de FM mais purement et simplement de la bêtise de leur part . Une assez longue parenthèse pour vous recommander de lire les écrits " les cahiers " comme on dit de Debussy Je ne suis pas un rat de bibliothèque jai du tomber tt a fait par hazard sur une page des cahiers sans plus
Everyone here needs to learn more about the pianola system - there are no directions as to what the speed the roll should be set to. It’s completely to the discretion of the operator. ALL of these rolls are the wrong tempo. Also, old piano rolls have an issue where they change tempo over time, it seems these recordings are getting gradually faster.
its a piano roll recording, so there was a time limit,and also the quality maybe got worse after more than 100 years; this is what we have to actually listen to the composer himself...this is gold
@@user-lt6qc4ry1ehe didnt record his clsire de lune that is suzanne goddenes recording. there are like 30 recording claiming to be debussy that are not but these childrens corner pieces are real recording by him(if you want more information about the topic reply to me)
These are piano rolls made by Debussy shortly before his death, NOT recordings of Debussy actually playing. At the end of Golliwog's Cake Walk, please clap.
@@gabrieltarrow7956 Although the composer's interpretation of their work is certainly valuable, it should not be the end all be all of interpretation- otherwise, there'd be no point in anyone else recording it. Although I do happen to agree that Debussy's recordings of his own works are sublime, I've listened to other interpretations that are just as excellent if not more so. There's always room for artistic criticism.
@@sashh9997 I take issue with this perspective. In the best works of art, one can find both the meaning the composer intentionally imbued in the work, as well as subjective meaning and value that's more personal to one's self. The art of interpreting music is as rich and personal as the art of writing the notes. Not, of course, that the writer's own perspective isn't important- it clearly is- but we shouldn't forget that art is highly personal and subjective, and that a good artist cannot anticipate all the ways in which their art will relate to people.
Forse sara' il tipo di registrazione ( ancora agli albori) ma sembra piu' classico e virtuosistico e meno impressionista,comunque difficile dire con questo tipo di registrazioni agli albori del GENIO francese
Every single other compser plays it too straight.. its got a little weird swing to it where he flicks the right hand notes very oddly. He also doesnt accent the da dat da da data da dat in the beginning initial run down.. he just accents the one note. SO interesting. I bet if you played it this way though the snob heads would think you were doing it wrong had they not heard debussy himself play it this way
nope the confirmed debussy recordings are: *Children’s Corner (all six pieces of the suite)*; *D’un cahier d’esquisses (From a sketchbook)*; *Estampes: La Soirée dans Grenade (An evening in Grenada)*; *La plus que lente (Slower than slow)*; *Danseuses de Delphes*, *Le Vent dans la plaine,* *La Cathédrale engloutie*, *La Danse de Puck, Minstrels* (from *Préludes I*); He did record some other pieces with the opera singer Mary Garden, but those recordings are much older and of a lesser quality than that of the piano rolls.
Rachman01 these are his interpretations of his pieces. If Debussy himself heard you play, he might not like your interpretation either, but that does not make anyone a "terrible pianist." Also, these recordings are from piano rolls, which apparently were expensive back then so he might have played quickly to reduce his usage of the piano rolls.
Farbod Zandinia good points, I have nothing but respect for him as a composer. Would’ve been fascinating to actually hear him play live instead of a piano roll!
00:01 老頑固（Doctor Gradus ad Parnassum ）
01:53
大象的催眠曲（Jimbo’s Lullaby）
04:58
洋娃娃小夜曲（Serenade for the Doll）
06:44
粉雪飛舞（The snow is dancing）
08:51
小小牧羊人（The little Shepherd）
10:41
黑娃娃的步態舞（Golliwog’s Cake Walk）
Thank you for giving the world this piece of history.
Rest in peace Claude and Emma chouchou debussy and thanks for this masterpiece!
Claude Debussy - Doctor Gradus Ad Parnassum Speedrun Any% (1:51)
So accurate lol, he just played it under 2 minutes
OMG, I never thought I'd live to hear Debussy himself playing this piece. I must say, I've been playing it for about 50 years but never was able to play it as fast as he did. Oh well.
The main thing is: did you enjoy the piece playing it.
After all, this recording is a snapshot in time. Debussy may have played slower tempi at other times. Secondly, I understand that someone restored an old piano to play the roll on, and made the modern digital recording from it. But who knows if they got it right. It is still an old mechanism they tinkered with. Maybe the machine used to run a bit slower in the past.
@@micaelat3734 I've always loved playing it. It's been one of my favorite pieces and the first one I play when I'm trying to revive my repertoire. I once performed The Children's Corner to a good-sized audience. Boy was I nervous! But it went well once I got into the music and forgot myself.
Composers ALWAYS play their own music too fast!
@@josephlaredo5272 Interesting. I was unaware of this. But then I haven't heard too many composers playing their own music. I'll have to pay attention.
@@josephlaredo5272 true
i'm crying at every listen ......debussyyyyyyyyy
I believe this recording was also recorded or at least remastered in 78 rpm records. I remember that I listened to Jimbo's Lullaby in Rio in 1991 during the musical analysis test for my admission to organ graduation at the Federal University of Rio de Janeiro. On the other hand I have a recording with Robert Casadesus as performer.
Think Debussy would have liked Arturo Michelangeli ‘s version too
Especially the preludes....
Doctor Gradus is apparently supposed to be played even faster than I thought!
Bravo, Claude.
Esto es tan maravilloso, su vida fue tan turbulenta y aun asi pudo componer obras tan perfectas como esta. Siento que persnas como él no las merece el mundo.
Wow!!!
DEBUSSYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
I never realized Debussy was such a good pianist.
U R LITERALLY JOKIIIIIIINNNNNNNNGGGGG! HOW IN HELL DID U GET THIS? SUPER AMAZING!!!!!!!
Um, his playing is super amazing because it is super amazing
@@ziwenjiao3391 never seen a comment that talks about nothing
J'ai longtemps cru que c'était le seul enregistrement "audio" (donc pas sur un piano mécanique type Welte mignon) de Debussy. En effet, le toucher semble assez véridique, avec quelques négligences digitales et irrégularités rythmiques maladroites compréhensible chez quelqu'un qui se consacrait avant tout à la composition. Sans doute lié à la date d'enregistrement, Welte mignon ayant fait des progrès dans la restitution des nuances. Hélas, on n'entendra jamais le véritable toucher de Debussy. Le tempo du docteur gradus est incroyablement rapide, personne ne joue comme cela.
Exception de Rachmaninov ( enregistrements remasterises et non piano-roll ) les compositeurs joueraient moins bien que leurs interprètes : à mon avis c'est logique 100/100 le compositeurs y met son Âme et peut importe la technique , ne serait ce pas Alfred Cortot dans ce sens qui s'identifiait même hors piano à Frderick Chopin ? ? Il est à préciser que Alfred Cortot refusait une seconde prise ( une faute dans op25-12 enregistrement original de 1933 et qu'on ne retrouve pas dans sa seconde version en 1944 à Londres ) . Personnellement je ne pense pas que le Compositeur puisse penser un instant à la technique , à l'erreur , à un trait pianistique aussi qui puisse attirer l'attention du Public : ce sont les interprètes qui y songent pour se demarquer de leurs confrères et s'attirer les faveurs du Public . D'après les écrits les compositeurs se produisent très peu en public par rapport aux nombre d'heures passées à la composition : compositeurs et Interprètes n'ont pas le même objectif et c'est celui qui se rapproche le plus du Compositeur qui donne la meilleure version de la pièce jouee . Le plus grand interpréte est celui qui se sert de la tech que comme un moyen et non comme une fin . Debussy joue ce qui ressent et peu importe si ça plait ou non de toute façon n'a t il pas écrit " dans une salle de Concert un auditeur sur mille me comprend " ? Il avait raison quand on voit sur Y T 1,2 K pour Lisista avec La Campanella et France Clidat qui a un petit 34 Like en jouant la même pièce ! !
@@alainspiteri502 Bonjour Alain ! j'ai vu que vous citiez debussy, auriez vous la source ? je suis à la recherche décrits de debussy que je ne trouve pas... merci
@@TentativeMusique comme pour W Nijinsky , Nina Vyroubova il y a " les cahiers de Nijinsky " " les cahiers de Nina Vyroubova " j'ignore l'origine du terme les cahiers qui rassemblent leurs mémoires leurs pensées leurs lettres écrits à leurs amis ; ce terme n'existait pas encore a l'époque de Georges Sand on en était encore resté tt simplement au terme de " Lettres " tout court comme du temps de Madame de Sévigné ; jai lu en son temps des écrits de Debussy et cette phrase célèbre " dans une salle de concert un Auditeur sur mille me comprends " les écrits de Debussy sont " les cahiers " . cest peut être prétentieux mais je pense la même chose , la musique est un langage que l'on apprends pas on la comprends ou non, ce qui est grave avec un soliste cest que cest idem , peu de pianiste comprenne ce qu'ils jouent et tombe dans une recherche de leur interprétation qui les conduits à des records époustouflants dans ce qu'ils font mais à mon avis ils perdent le sens de l'expression musicale qu'ils jouent et le public idem plus grave la critique musicale des interpretations comparées sur France Musique sy est mise aussi quand jai ecoute en partie leur débat sur la sonate op35-2 de Chopin en éliminant d'office le record de Rachmaninov de 1933 : FM na pas compris ce que signifie la Sonate Funèbre de Chopin pour avoir éliminé au départ celle de Rachmaninov , ce nest pas mon choix ici mais je pense sincèrement que Rachmaninov était mieux placé qu'un Alain Lompech pour avoir compris ce que signifie la sonate funèbre de Chopin , ce nest pas ici un choix de FM mais purement et simplement de la bêtise de leur part . Une assez longue parenthèse pour vous recommander de lire les écrits " les cahiers " comme on dit de Debussy Je ne suis pas un rat de bibliothèque jai du tomber tt a fait par hazard sur une page des cahiers sans plus
@@alainspiteri502 Merci de votre réponse ! Bien amicalement, Pierre
Everyone here needs to learn more about the pianola system - there are no directions as to what the speed the roll should be set to. It’s completely to the discretion of the operator. ALL of these rolls are the wrong tempo. Also, old piano rolls have an issue where they change tempo over time, it seems these recordings are getting gradually faster.
so interesting - thank you. He always sound like he's rushing
Haha true. He even rushes through his lune de claire
You'd rush too if you had advanced rectal cancer (diagnosed in 1909). He was probably sitting on a doughnut cushion on the hard piano bench.
its a piano roll recording, so there was a time limit,and also the quality maybe got worse after more than 100 years; this is what we have to actually listen to the composer himself...this is gold
@@user-lt6qc4ry1ehe didnt record his clsire de lune that is suzanne goddenes recording. there are like 30 recording claiming to be debussy that are not but these childrens corner pieces are real recording by him(if you want more information about the topic reply to me)
Expédié en 13 min 30 quand même... je l'étudie et pense le jouer en 16 min 30. En y mettant beaucoup de fantaisie.
C'est vrai que c'est un peu "expédié " ... Il devait avoir quelque chose sur le feu ...
@@aragorn618 Pas un peu. Hard to believe, but he loses the beauty of something he wrote.
I always thought people played Doctor Gradus too quickly, guess I’m wrong
These are piano rolls made by Debussy shortly before his death, NOT recordings of Debussy actually playing. At the end of Golliwog's Cake Walk, please clap.
what? that doesnt make sense
Golliwog is bit like trolling jazz...😂😅
not bad
he was the man who wrote Children's Corner...
i think if anyone would be "good" at playing this, it would be him
@@gabrieltarrow7956 Although the composer's interpretation of their work is certainly valuable, it should not be the end all be all of interpretation- otherwise, there'd be no point in anyone else recording it. Although I do happen to agree that Debussy's recordings of his own works are sublime, I've listened to other interpretations that are just as excellent if not more so. There's always room for artistic criticism.
@@seanriedy what are you talking about? Just enjoy hearing what Debussy wanted you to hear jeez
@@sashh9997 I take issue with this perspective. In the best works of art, one can find both the meaning the composer intentionally imbued in the work, as well as subjective meaning and value that's more personal to one's self. The art of interpreting music is as rich and personal as the art of writing the notes. Not, of course, that the writer's own perspective isn't important- it clearly is- but we shouldn't forget that art is highly personal and subjective, and that a good artist cannot anticipate all the ways in which their art will relate to people.
Forse sara' il tipo di registrazione ( ancora agli albori) ma sembra piu' classico e virtuosistico e meno impressionista,comunque difficile dire con questo tipo di registrazioni agli albori del GENIO francese
Every single other compser plays it too straight.. its got a little weird swing to it where he flicks the right hand notes very oddly. He also doesnt accent the da dat da da data da dat in the beginning initial run down.. he just accents the one note. SO interesting. I bet if you played it this way though the snob heads would think you were doing it wrong had they not heard debussy himself play it this way
Fake
nope the confirmed debussy recordings are:
*Children’s Corner (all six pieces of the suite)*;
*D’un cahier d’esquisses (From a sketchbook)*;
*Estampes: La Soirée dans Grenade (An evening in Grenada)*;
*La plus que lente (Slower than slow)*;
*Danseuses de Delphes*, *Le Vent dans la plaine,* *La Cathédrale engloutie*, *La Danse de Puck, Minstrels* (from *Préludes I*);
He did record some other pieces with the opera singer Mary Garden, but those recordings are much older and of a lesser quality than that of the piano rolls.
magical composer, terrible pianist.. 😅
Not true
Luca C sure sounds like it lol. And that’s ok.
Rachman01 these are his interpretations of his pieces. If Debussy himself heard you play, he might not like your interpretation either, but that does not make anyone a "terrible pianist." Also, these recordings are from piano rolls, which apparently were expensive back then so he might have played quickly to reduce his usage of the piano rolls.
Farbod Zandinia good points, I have nothing but respect for him as a composer. Would’ve been fascinating to actually hear him play live instead of a piano roll!
@@Rachman01 definitely!
Grande compositore ma veramente pessimo pianista, pessimo.