Make your own ESC || BLDC Motor Driver (Part 1)

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  • Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2024

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  • @jonesrichardmr
    @jonesrichardmr 7 лет назад +63

    I like that you explain how the individual components work in detail and not just what they do, can be difficult to visualise from a datasheet sometimes. Waiting for part 2 :)

    • @gang6164
      @gang6164 2 года назад

      Do you feel like a man
      When you push her around
      Do u feel better now
      As she falls to the ground 🗿

  • @polkaciik
    @polkaciik 7 лет назад +722

    Can't wait for 2022 finale

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  7 лет назад +124

      Me neither ;-)

    • @josephnevin
      @josephnevin 7 лет назад +1

      Anthony Pinto I keep asking myself that.. 😎😎

    • @lmif3187
      @lmif3187 7 лет назад +1

      me too

    • @DoRC
      @DoRC 7 лет назад +6

      Polkacik I wonder where it'll be hosted as RUclips will be a Pop Advertising Click Bait wasteland by then

    • @polkaciik
      @polkaciik 7 лет назад

      Do R/C! We will see in 2022. Just wait

  • @tsstn
    @tsstn 7 лет назад +5

    This is the kind of content the internet was made for. Thank you so much for posting all these great videos. You are a great teacher to us less knowledgeable tinkerers. I love your content. And I would like to say also, your english is very clear and very good. I am glad to have your channel in my sub. list.

  • @talhashaikh7463
    @talhashaikh7463 Год назад +49

    Me watching this in 2023..

  • @neatoelectro3687
    @neatoelectro3687 7 лет назад +14

    I love your hand drawn schematics. You should sell them as art. Freaking gorgeous.

    • @tonyromano6220
      @tonyromano6220 5 лет назад +1

      Neato Electro truly

    • @GiuseppeGibilmanno
      @GiuseppeGibilmanno Год назад

      on art world no need to be smart but just sensitive, you underrate an engineer

  • @Chickenbreadlp
    @Chickenbreadlp 7 лет назад +8

    I once programmed an Arduino to function as a very basic ESC. It couldn't start the Motor on it's own and changing the motor speed while the motor was spinning caused the motor to stop. But as long as you start the motor by hand and don't change the speed, it works.
    That was for a school project where we were supposed to build a DC motor, while many failed, and some didn't really fulfill the task, I had to overdone it ^^'

    • @erlendse
      @erlendse 7 лет назад

      Neat. The issue is fidning motor position.
      You can use the voltage created in the coils, but it won't do the start so you will have to step it up to run-able speed.
      The other common option is having sensors in the motor to tell the position, and use them to determine what step to use.

    • @buzzjump9422
      @buzzjump9422 6 лет назад

      Chickenbread Designs did you use a different power source and a mosfet switch?

  • @brettito
    @brettito 7 лет назад +12

    You should make scans of your wiring diagrams. It's art, man!

  • @alimakkaya3310
    @alimakkaya3310 7 лет назад +15

    I just watched your "Make your own time machine" video. It worked like a charm :D

  • @PaulBrunt
    @PaulBrunt 2 года назад +4

    Looking forward to seeing the quadcopter finished this year 🙂

  • @nistax2880
    @nistax2880 3 года назад +1

    hey man 2022 is pretty close , can't wait

  • @UAVfutures
    @UAVfutures 7 лет назад +46

    wow this is amazing and you are so smart

    • @aakashjana6225
      @aakashjana6225 4 года назад +4

      I used to watch GreatScott before i started droning with you Stu.😉

  • @Dan-ger82
    @Dan-ger82 4 года назад +1

    Every time I hear your intro music I cant help but think of the Mr Wizard tv show I grew up watching as a kid.

  • @diyguild1327
    @diyguild1327 3 года назад +19

    Do you keep your drawings and schematics? Your handwriting is beautiful and very clean. I'm not sure if you've ever considered scanning them for a pdf download but that would be really cool to have. Thanks for the great content

  • @tahirbintariq8934
    @tahirbintariq8934 3 года назад +1

    Just come here to see your quadcopters video which had to be releaed in 2022 and just 2022 is going to be start

  • @antinoriberenice
    @antinoriberenice 3 года назад +3

    2021 and counting.

  • @joecobra48
    @joecobra48 7 лет назад

    Hey your explanation is better than any school teacher I've ever seen. New here.

  • @kaumohlamonyane272
    @kaumohlamonyane272 7 лет назад +113

    Who else wants bootstrapping basics?

  • @galladeblade6001
    @galladeblade6001 7 лет назад

    Speaking of esc. I am planning to build an electric skateboard by only buying components. I don't want to waste money that I can do by myself. Cant wait for part 2

    • @MichelPASTOR
      @MichelPASTOR 7 лет назад

      More fun but be aware that it will probably cost you more in parts if you do it yourself rather than buying an off-the-shelf ESC. Don't do it only to save money because it will cost you a lot more time and at best won't save much money. Having said that it is a very interesting and educational project worth doing for sure.

  • @the0844
    @the0844 7 лет назад +6

    I'm not entirely sure that this is how a sensorless brushless ESC works. Commercial units read the back-EMF induced in each of the coils to determine the position of the rotor and turn on the correct phases. Speed control is achieved via PWM modulation of such phases and not by arbitrarily speeding up the phase switching.

  • @boasdelely1550
    @boasdelely1550 2 года назад +1

    Can't wait for the drone next year

  • @b_mb4948
    @b_mb4948 7 лет назад +3

    Do yourself a favour...
    Buy a fountain pen and fill it with red ink. It will be more cost effective/environmentally friendly then using hundreds of throw-away pens per episode xD. It will also look awesome in the drawing shots of your video!
    Keep up the great work!

  • @uilsoum875
    @uilsoum875 7 лет назад

    their polished surface looks so satisfying

  • @p1nesap
    @p1nesap 7 лет назад +16

    Scott please make an air conditioner (not a swamp cooler).

    • @glennedward2201
      @glennedward2201 6 лет назад

      Cool & Quiet ... the reality is they are much different.

  • @d0tted770
    @d0tted770 2 года назад

    I ve been waiting 4 YEARS

  • @rebeccajoy8006
    @rebeccajoy8006 5 лет назад +4

    I'm curious about holding current from the ESC for an application when you want to hold the motor still under varying load

  • @Wrathwithin18
    @Wrathwithin18 4 года назад

    I love the frequency of 20 milliseconds. It's the perfect rotational speed.

  • @YashaNeel
    @YashaNeel 9 месяцев назад +3

    Me watching this in 2024..

  • @HarryL2020
    @HarryL2020 7 лет назад

    Nice to see a RUclipsr that responds to comments

  • @alper8825
    @alper8825 7 лет назад +15

    Great Scott, can you make a video about AC motors or the difference between AC and DC motors please?

    • @PetruSfecles13
      @PetruSfecles13 7 лет назад +4

      There are tons of videos out there explaining the difference between the two.

    • @qps9380
      @qps9380 7 лет назад +4

      Petru Sfecles, yeah but GreatScott man.....

    • @preddy09
      @preddy09 7 лет назад +1

      The gist of the difference is simple. A DC motor is just an AC motor with a controller/commutator.
      In other words all motors are AC internally in the sense that without a changing field it's impossible to create motion.

    • @RNA0ROGER
      @RNA0ROGER 7 лет назад

      All motors work from AC.

  • @theoriginalbingchilling
    @theoriginalbingchilling 2 года назад +1

    He did actually finish this year!

  • @saikiran-kz7vn
    @saikiran-kz7vn 7 лет назад +4

    thank u very much to make a video on esc, i like u r videos

  • @icraftcrafts8685
    @icraftcrafts8685 3 года назад +1

    Hey Great Scott. Only a few months left for 2022 to complete your quadcopter!

  • @Pumpkin-Link
    @Pumpkin-Link 7 лет назад +6

    when I read the title I thought this was actually a guide to macbook "pro" owners to make their own physical Escape key

  • @emielzier
    @emielzier 7 лет назад

    I dont understand the programming but I m glad I watch your video. yet still I dont understand. I love your videossss

  • @thomas_d7032
    @thomas_d7032 7 лет назад +12

    your quadrocopter will still be finished before the airport BER (Berlin Brandenburg) haha

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  7 лет назад +8

      Good one :-)

    • @meem9328
      @meem9328 4 года назад

      Hi grear scott

    • @meem9328
      @meem9328 4 года назад

      Hugs from mex

    • @reptiloidx8942
      @reptiloidx8942 4 года назад +1

      @@greatscottlab HEY MAN I GOT BRUSHLESS MOTOR WITH 14 MAGNETS FOR MY LONGBOARD AND WHAT CIRCUIT SHOILD I USE FOR WIRED REMOTE CONTROL ???

  • @cuf_
    @cuf_ 2 года назад +1

    Damn! 2022 and all are waiting for the quad-copter

  • @RETROGAME-FIX
    @RETROGAME-FIX 7 лет назад +8

    This project is waaaaaaaaaay beyond my brains.

    • @jakegarrett8109
      @jakegarrett8109 7 лет назад +2

      MrRCking84 That's fine, it's all about learning and that doesn't happen instantly. If you just need a good ESC, they are under $5 for a 30 amp speed controller. I'm not an expert on it either, but I like learning about it.

    • @RETROGAME-FIX
      @RETROGAME-FIX 7 лет назад

      Jake Garrett But you are good at what you are doing.

  • @isii2235
    @isii2235 2 года назад +1

    WE'RE HERE

  • @revoxsvko
    @revoxsvko 7 лет назад +7

    Yeah! i knowed that will be something with motors his week :D

  • @00xero
    @00xero 7 лет назад

    Coming from a fellow electrical eng... Man you make this stuff look easy ._.
    You are some kind of wizard haha. Great video!

  • @NerdlyCNC
    @NerdlyCNC 7 лет назад +8

    HOLY CRAP! You have a $10,000 Oscilloscope?

    • @HermanWillems
      @HermanWillems 5 лет назад

      It's just a hobby scope you know. Just like Great Scott tries to make you think it is. But he has extreme good gear for just a "hobby".

  • @asankakarawita3500
    @asankakarawita3500 7 лет назад

    If you use two seperate power supplies(your supply has two channels obviously) It may work.just an idea.great video greatscott !

  • @sarasonu6910
    @sarasonu6910 7 лет назад +6

    Part 3 flying of quad quapter

  • @bestcreations4703
    @bestcreations4703 3 года назад +1

    Well good sir I do expect a video on this quad copter within the next year

  • @Afzal1995
    @Afzal1995 7 лет назад +9

    Great Video! you can even 3d print a frame instead of using wood also would you please condider talking about SimonK firmware, BLHeli Firmware and other popular firmwares for ESCs? im constantly burning my escs , my guess is the BEC is causing some kind of short within the ESC and burning it, but this is a great video eagerly looking forward to the second part!

    • @PetruSfecles13
      @PetruSfecles13 7 лет назад +1

      How much current are you using? How big is the filter cap on the ESC?

    • @simtubes
      @simtubes 7 лет назад +5

      Well, what is burning? The BEC supply and rest of the ESC are typically separate circuits. There is usually a separate regulator for the microcontroller, which is sometimes shared with the relatively low current gate drive supply where applicable. FET failures can happen for all sorts of reasons (external oscillator stopping from moisture, excessive body diode conduction, no external pull-offs to deal with MCU resets, etc), many of which can be secondary failures.

    • @jamesmcfarland8975
      @jamesmcfarland8975 7 лет назад +1

      You probably need higher Amperage ESCs

    • @Afzal1995
      @Afzal1995 7 лет назад +1

      Thank you guys for the suggestions I should have given a little more information, so I use the cc3d FC, best way to power it is with ESC via BEC, the ESCs are 30A SimonK and the battery is 3s lipo 3000mah 35c, everytime the ESC with which I power the quad blows out (in my case ESC 1,which is front left in an X configuration quad) I dunno what to do, I will try to order a new batch of ESCs and then supplying power to FC via PDB directly (my PDB has a voltage converter IC on board), hoping this to solve the problem, as other wise when I opened the ESC only 1 MOSFET was burned, this could have been the voltage convertor or BEC too, as it's burned so badly I can't read what's written on the package.

    • @jamesmcfarland8975
      @jamesmcfarland8975 7 лет назад +1

      Afzal Patil what amperage are your ECSs and what motors?

  • @vishnumu108
    @vishnumu108 7 лет назад

    Great Scott. Finish it quickly. look up "ardupilot". I'm working with it and made mine with less efforts. So far made 2 quad copters. I recommend you get an external compass for ardupilot to minimize noise from ESCs.
    I watch all your videos. awesome work man 👍

  • @francisroan
    @francisroan 7 лет назад +23

    It's actually "Electronic Speed Controller"

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  7 лет назад +11

      Actually some people say electronic, others electric. Doesn't matter.

    • @PetruSfecles13
      @PetruSfecles13 7 лет назад +3

      I have to agree with Francis.

    • @chimaeria6887
      @chimaeria6887 7 лет назад +2

      GreatScott! If one would want to nitpick electronic would be a little more correct. I guess it's the same like the difference between electrical and electronic engineering. Electronics is more about the working of the semiconductors, controllers,... And electrical more about power distribution, high voltage, etc. Not that they both don't have an overlap. But there is a difference, albeit a small one.
      Not that it actually matters that much.

    • @ericcartmann
      @ericcartmann 7 лет назад

      Electronic engineering is a subset of Electrical engineering. Electrical engineering is the BSc that you get from university, and you may specialize into electronics/power/communications/EM/nano/etc.

    • @nigelwasarirevu9496
      @nigelwasarirevu9496 6 лет назад

      Francis Rohan John 😂😂😂your that one guy. Who just had to day it🤣

  • @mithileshgangawane212
    @mithileshgangawane212 3 года назад +2

    One year left to complete 😂😂😂

  • @EVRLYNMedia
    @EVRLYNMedia 7 лет назад +8

    i like variable resistors

    • @EVRLYNMedia
      @EVRLYNMedia 7 лет назад

      same thing, just different shape

  • @arvidsgills1157
    @arvidsgills1157 7 лет назад +1

    Yaaay a quadcopter in 2022 really like your videos and waiting for 2022 thanks for content

  • @emikosuzuki4328
    @emikosuzuki4328 5 лет назад +5

    On which software do you simulate the circuit?

  • @EngineerAbhijitMaity
    @EngineerAbhijitMaity 2 года назад +1

    Its 2022, I am still here

  • @sumit_kashyap..
    @sumit_kashyap.. 7 лет назад +71

    What is Bootstrap?

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  7 лет назад +82

      Bootstrapping is a method to drive high side n-channel MOSFETs. I might do a video about it in the future.

    • @robindegans9014
      @robindegans9014 7 лет назад +9

      I second this question.

    • @LordDecapo
      @LordDecapo 7 лет назад +13

      please do :) you explain stuff very well. so would be much appreciated.

    • @PetruSfecles13
      @PetruSfecles13 7 лет назад +5

      In a nutshell, when we talk about MOSFET transistors it's a technique to obtain a higher voltage level than your supply voltage. In order to correctly drive the gate of a N channel MOSFET placed in a high side topology you will need to provide a gate drive higher than supply voltage.

    • @LordDecapo
      @LordDecapo 7 лет назад +2

      Petru Sfecles ohh ok. That makes what he was saying make sense in a way. Thanks.
      I'm more of a computer guy so my first thoughts were total confusion xD

  • @d0tted770
    @d0tted770 3 года назад +2

    its 2021 ,ur close

  • @mihaelpanjkrc7870
    @mihaelpanjkrc7870 5 лет назад +13

    1:36 frequency of 20 milliseconds?

  • @djorfuusk
    @djorfuusk 5 лет назад

    Not going to lie... Im basically here to feel stupid.... This guys vids are awesome...

  • @thomaswells2575
    @thomaswells2575 2 года назад +4

    Where's the quad at its 2022.

  • @onphs
    @onphs 4 года назад

    Im rewatching these vids since I have a 12 DC Volt frigde, and for what I can see the compressor is a BLDC compressor so Im gonna try to make a control board that control the compressor's speed acording to the temperarute, thank you for the well imformative video!

  • @OneWithCheese
    @OneWithCheese 2 года назад +3

    so did you finish it?

    • @rolls_8798
      @rolls_8798 5 месяцев назад

      one does wonder

  • @thanasisathanasi4965
    @thanasisathanasi4965 4 года назад +1

    You are the best... and I don't give complements easily. Subscribed !!!

  • @ElectricPointOfficial
    @ElectricPointOfficial 7 лет назад +9

    Wow,

  • @ilhamwinar9251
    @ilhamwinar9251 7 лет назад +1

    great! i have searching this on internet but you made it. thanks for the video, its helping me to understand a little bldc works.

  • @RizLazey
    @RizLazey 7 лет назад +16

    wait is it possible to create an esc without arduino?
    i mean well i do have arduino but i dont understand much of it
    so there should be second option to create an esc without a arduino, right

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  7 лет назад +9

      It is possible to do without Arduino, but I think using a µC is the easier way to create one.

    • @MrEmrys24
      @MrEmrys24 7 лет назад +3

      Logic gates and shift register?...

    • @nrdesign1991
      @nrdesign1991 7 лет назад

      I have driven stepper motors with an ULN2008, 4017, a few diodes and NE555 before. It should be possible do to the same with a BLDC Motor.

    • @Leonelf0
      @Leonelf0 7 лет назад

      You don't use sine with a BLDC. Only PMSM need sine waves; BLDCs use 120° shifted 0 -1 0 1 (stair?) waves

    • @PetruSfecles13
      @PetruSfecles13 7 лет назад +1

      Also called block-commutation.

  • @toolzshed
    @toolzshed 7 лет назад +1

    oh man this was a tough one.......darn phases! I need to watch this a couple of times

  • @tiberiocesarsantana3587
    @tiberiocesarsantana3587 5 лет назад +3

    how can I use this steps to do an esc to work with 48V and 1500w?
    if anybody know please help me

    • @MrMaxitaple
      @MrMaxitaple 5 лет назад +1

      I wanna know too

    • @ladjkaoz
      @ladjkaoz 5 лет назад

      I'm in for a 48v 750W +/-

  • @CJmummy
    @CJmummy 3 года назад

    Damm I didn’t know I could make my own Eurovision Song Contest. Brilliant!

  • @smoke4131
    @smoke4131 7 лет назад +21

    laughed so hard at 0:07

  • @DuMStuFFrc
    @DuMStuFFrc 7 лет назад +2

    Thank you for making this series! I've showered the internet for such a video several times

  • @maks886
    @maks886 7 лет назад +39

    1:36 frequency of 20 ms?

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  7 лет назад +22

      "cycle duration"

    • @maks886
      @maks886 7 лет назад +4

      yep, I knew that but I wanted to point that mistake out :)

    • @BlackXeno
      @BlackXeno 7 лет назад +5

      Or period?

    • @saulo5216
      @saulo5216 7 лет назад +6

      it was not a major mistake. you know what he meant

    • @preddy09
      @preddy09 7 лет назад +9

      maks886, to the technical community who can understand the main point, you're the equivalent of a grammer Nazi

  • @anandquest
    @anandquest 7 лет назад

    Finally a tutorial I've been waiting for.. But until now I somehow managed to save money to buy a new one.

  • @Cornflakes691
    @Cornflakes691 7 лет назад +3

    lol phantom props

  • @noijze
    @noijze 7 лет назад +1

    Cool project, Joop Brokking did make his very own flightcontroler for multiroters driven by the arduino

    • @willscrewughosh00
      @willscrewughosh00 7 лет назад +2

      Henkel gezwenkel everything is becoming diy these days .You can make your frame (3d printing) ,your radio(opentx mega,nextsteprc),flight controller (joop brokking,multiwi etc),ESC as this one and in another channel I have seen.someone even created his own 3d printed motor(halbatch or something like that).wow really wow

  • @asmitpoudel4068
    @asmitpoudel4068 7 лет назад +3

    Who noticed he never shows his face on his videos?

    • @The_Weeezard
      @The_Weeezard 7 лет назад +6

      You need to watch more GreatScott!'s videos.

  • @mokopa
    @mokopa 3 года назад

    I am literally moments away from making my own ESC for a brushed DC motor. I am sitting down with a cup of coffee for my final round of planning...when RUclips reads my mind and suggests I watch this video. Alrighty then...mind-reading creepiness aside....let's see what I have waiting for me...

  • @whitewalter499
    @whitewalter499 7 лет назад +4

    Am i first??
    Keep the good work up!

  • @riccardoyuri
    @riccardoyuri 3 года назад +2

    We are close to the deadline

  • @Falney
    @Falney 7 лет назад

    I just finished reading into this while building an ebike motor last week and thought "I will suggest this to Scott" then it turns out I did not need to in the end. XD

  • @timcorkill6197
    @timcorkill6197 7 лет назад

    I’d like to see a video on measuring how many amps of charge an iPhone can take and then build a charger at maximum input charge! Awesome

    • @jakegarrett8109
      @jakegarrett8109 7 лет назад

      Tim Corkill Li-ion batteries need regulated constant current charging (unless you like fires), so they should have a charging circuit built into the phone. So if it limits it at 1 or 2 amps, it doesn't matter if you use my 23 amp 5v power supply or a regular 2 amp USB charger, the charging circuit will limit it.

  • @NullPointer
    @NullPointer 3 года назад +2

    One year left!

  • @gundeep33
    @gundeep33 6 лет назад

    Had a class professor could explain in such a way!!!

  • @Appregator
    @Appregator 3 месяца назад

    Use the IC MC33033 from Onsemi to receive the 3 phase encoder signals and to drive the gates of the 3 high side and 3 low side fets. Its works quite well. All you need are signals to drive the direction of rotation and a voltage to set the speed.

  • @TheCarlos206
    @TheCarlos206 7 лет назад +1

    Great Work Scott , I´ve been trying to make an arduino ESC controller for a couple of years!! This help me a lot! THX

  • @keithcitizen4855
    @keithcitizen4855 3 года назад

    So clever the whole lot, EG sourcing the IC ,etc.

  • @ponvannanraghavan352
    @ponvannanraghavan352 7 лет назад +1

    Just now watching.... But gave thumbs up... Becoz, this is jeremy's video

  • @diyexplorer8728
    @diyexplorer8728 5 лет назад +1

    It's 3/4 quarter of 2019 already. Can't wait for 2022.

  • @saurabhjambotkar9077
    @saurabhjambotkar9077 7 лет назад +1

    When you make video, it's always some Boom....
    Keep on doing the projects and you'll make world more interesting place..

  • @BuzZ.
    @BuzZ. 7 лет назад

    NOW WE CAN SEE WHO IS THE REAL MAN !

  • @amankushwaha3395
    @amankushwaha3395 5 лет назад

    One of the best RUclips channel

  • @robert8tornado2500
    @robert8tornado2500 6 лет назад

    You deserve à hundred likes ! you are teacher

  • @grindlord064
    @grindlord064 7 лет назад +1

    Thank you. I couldn't find any video in RUclips where we can make our own esc. thank you very much

  • @tempeleng
    @tempeleng 4 года назад +2

    2 more years buddy...

  • @BillySugger1965
    @BillySugger1965 7 лет назад

    Great start Scott, but what you are implementing is open loop commutation which is very inefficient. I hope you can reveal the secret of sensorless commutation feedback which allows variable power with best efficiency, so critical for battery operated drone flight.

  • @houdeifaadjimi101
    @houdeifaadjimi101 10 месяцев назад +2

    "Wich i will finish in the year 2022"
    Me watching the video in 2024

  • @ScienceLab760
    @ScienceLab760 7 лет назад

    Great video, thanks for sharing, my recommendation you do need create with the resistor network one sensorless method for know the position of your motor and applied the current in the correct moment for increased the speed and performance of your driver.

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations 7 лет назад

    FANTASTIC! :D One question: what about a brushed esc? Should be nice!

  • @nipz8053
    @nipz8053 4 года назад

    2 more years to go, can't wait.

  • @johnstigglet7512
    @johnstigglet7512 6 лет назад

    Hi Scotty, mate just watched your ESC build, while its impressive, you're working way to hard! Odrive is the key, and if you're serious about control, its a must have. Regards Stiggie

  • @phat-motoxer9022
    @phat-motoxer9022 7 лет назад

    I love watching your videos, I don't have a clue on alot of what your saying but I do learn some.

  • @DoRC
    @DoRC 7 лет назад +1

    Interesting I was always under the impression that sensor less escs used some kind of feedback from the motor as part of the way they ran.

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  7 лет назад +1

      Correct. But this is only part 1 of the project.

  • @arendmookhoek4314
    @arendmookhoek4314 7 лет назад

    ahh finally something where i dont feel left behind knowledge wisr