Hidden History of Tinkers Creek - Ancient Megalithic Builders in Ohio
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Why do our textbooks and museums not recognize the pre-Columbus peoples of north east Ohio? Why are there so many mounds and earthworks being ignored by archaeologists? Clearly the Cuyahoga Valley National Park was once home to an ancient and massive civilization. In this video we delve into the Cuyahoga River's largest tributary, the Tinker's Creek.
"The gorge" as it is known locally hosts many ancient Native American sites, mounds, earthworks and artifacts. It's only more abundant resource seems to be mystery and deceit. Careful you stay on the path or Cleveland Metro-parks Police or one of their many vigilante volunteers will be sure to show up and let you know... there is nothing to see here. Nothing except the mounds large enough to be hiding an ancient temple. Or perhaps evidence of Mayan influence in the Late Woodland period.
So, I grew up hiking Tinkers Creek. I personally witnessed people die there. I have witnessed many natural wonders. I have hiked the entire creek from Dunham road to the Bedford end just before the Rangers station. Twice I illegally did a midnight bike ride through the park. This video opened my eyes to a larger picture. I know of the tales oh Haunted Ohio. Yes both the Bedford reservation and the Cuyahoga National Valley Park systems make sure the entire truth not be told. One example is the Jaite Trailhead. The park has closed trails, history has been erased. Growing up and now I am old this video had my heart pumping with excitement. Thank you as this is yet anothe piece of the puzzle of where I grew up. Oh, the bike rides at midnight were very scary, the first went well, the second we, me and a brave friend had ti ditch it into the woods at top speed to avoid the Park Rangers.
You saw people die???
@@ellen4956 right? Makes it sound like he offs people in the woods there. 😵
Yes, gramps and i would often drive through the park. One day a bunch of guys were going canoeing. They did not make it under the Dunham bridge. Gramps managed to save 1 guy, two guys made it out and the found the other one drowned in the Cuyahoga River 3 days later.
Every time he mispronounced " Cuyahoga" I want to scream. But this is a awesome informative video that makes me want to go exploring.
Yeah, sorry about that. Seems like everyone wants me to use my own voice, so I will for my next video
You should hear me pronounce cochocton
Tinker´s Creek was in my back yard! I grew up there in the 50s and 60s and had no idea of ANY of this. It´s shocking that most people´s idea of the first Americans were from the old Westerns and completely ignore the eastern cultures. So glad I´m still in time to learn of all this. Thank you for your hard work
Tinkers Creek, Serpent Mound, Circleville mounds, Fort Ancient...etc
There was a lot going on in Ohio during the stone age.
I own a house in Walton Hills 5 minutes from here. I will have to go check this out!!!!!
My son dug up a Roman pillum in a creek bed in pepperpike also a ancient arrowhead history museum said it was 10,000 years old
Great research! There are a lot of secrets near me. I know a few mounds with fences, and town resident only parking with earthworks and mounds. I don't know why it took me this long to find your channel....
One major problem for me is you have to do a lot of research to find mounds and earth work locations. You go to fort Ancient and they don't talk about other places to visit. It feels like everyone doesn't want to connect the dots with every location in one spot.
Duh. Everything is coincidence. Nothing be co-incidents.
Same reason then dont teach phonics anymore nor any other system based in logic and reasoning.
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And they act like they are completely different cultures independent but they are down a river with the same artifacts.. obviously a decent amount
Thank you so much for sharing I think that the native spirits are pleased with your respect for our state as am I peace ✌️ and love my friend and God bless us all
I’ve read very old accounts of this area and the very large skeletons found buried in a few mounds. They had copper breast plates and were considered some of the same people groups found in a cave in New Mexico.
ABSOLUTELY MY FRIEND !!!
A sucker born every day. You want to buy a bridge Mr.Gullible?
So my brother and I would frequent these park systems quite often when we lived nearby. It was off trail you would find the most amazing things and feel the true serenity of this place. Anyway off trail one day my brother found the coolest spot it was a circle of stone chairs, not little stones either, big heavy ones. Thier was one that had a triangle point as the seat back. It was like the chief chair we called it. When my brother showed me I was like who in thier right mind could have moved those heavy stones like that way off the trail? Now this has got me thinking and I wonder how long that circle of stone chairs has really sat down their🤔
My father does tree work and one time as a child 7 years of age I went with him I was exploring the woods around the area he was working in and I found a giant moss covered bolder probably 20 feet tall 40 feet wide and 60 feet long it was split in half and a "cave" filled with coal was carved out in both half's on top was hundreds of smaller basketball sized rocks and flint everywhere It was truly breath taking I wish I new where it was I would give almost anything to visit that site again as an adult.
It's been 10 years since I've explored that area but best believe next time I go I will be exploring with new eyes and new wisdom.
I've been to place with the stone chairs many times. I have photos. It's amazing and magical. The last time I went was in 2016 and most of the chairs had been knocked over
@@marusiaphillips4791 so cool you've been there too. Last time for me was like 2007ish. It was fully intact, it looked like some local partying but still in excellent condition. Such a shame that others feel the need to tear things down 😔
Sorry, but giving a computer-generated voice an accent doesn't make it any less irritating to listen to.
Yeah but its better than hearing mine lol
@@hiddenohiohistory I doubt it!
@@hiddenohiohistory No it would be better to hear yours, seriously much better..
Whenever I hear a computer generated voice, I just stop listening. And go do something else…😮
Can't pronounce Cuyahoga.
Thanks and best wishes from Columbus Ohio USA 👍
I've lived in Northeast Ohio for most of my life. When I was around 15 years old I found a spear point which was 9 in Long and beautifully made. I found that in southern Cuyahoga county. I wasn't even looking for artifacts I just found it in a yard of a very old house. I wish I still had it. Unfortunately I dropped it out of cement floor and it shattered. That was 10 years after I had found it so I got to enjoy it for a little while.
To many years ago found several arrow heads, what looked like a stone axe head and a larger stone that had a ground hollow about 6 inches diameter 2 inches deep. Always walked the fields after they were plowed before planting.
great work with maps and videos, there's a lot of effort to hide past occupants of this and other areas in the world, to not break the history already told that is little by little falling to show a completely different map and timeline of the entire world!! thank you for your work and if you ever need help with it let me know, send me a message, be glad to be a part of this , I live in the Columbus area.
Wait, I am freaking out. Lol. I have a “secret spot” I go to there, and I have always thought about native Americans definitely being there and imagining myself as one there. Amazing place. You on a street with residential houses and cut through a big field. I can find the area for you if you want.
Yes
and that is the best way to respect them, I imagine the spot holds some memory that you can feel...
@@Ieezeca THEM? Best way to respect them is to remain ignorant.
Best to allow the parasites to outline past present and future.
Stay on the well beaten off path or else prepare to fall into view of a prizm cell hole
@@Coincidence_Theorist I wondered why I hadn't answered this, it was b/c I went to double check how prisms work to see what I was missing in your metaphor. Turns out you can't put holes in prisms...or a Z. In your zealous defense, you entirely missed my point. She can feel and hear the memory of the land and people in a residential area b/c it doesn't go away and she happens to be open enough to attune to it. That's not something that can be regulated, removed or in any way be eliminated by whatever powerful body you decide to hate.
I live along the Allegheny river in New York. And I have seen an old map showing mound builder sites along the river. Where now is covered by the reservoir. Which they stole land from the Seneca chief cornplanters family in order to build the damn and create. Also there are giant Boulder cities on top of mountains here that were built and inhabited by natives long long ago. Such places as rim rock. So I know these cultures came pretty car north. As I am not far from the start of the Allegheny. Only about 1 1\2 south of buffalo.
I live in Dayton Ohio and have been to some of these places. It needs to be explored.
I recognized two photos that the authors would like you to believe might be “mounds” in the Tinkers Creek area but are only chipper piles left by the Metropark when they were taking down all the dead ash trees.
They were reported first by Moses Gleeson in the mid 1800's.
No ignored, suppressed🤨
Very Interesting!
it's the whole country they lie about, not just Ohio. thanks for the vid
Miamisburg Mound has a big Mound... Everyone look it up. Very Interesting.
Tinkers creek ran through the woods behind my house in Bainbridge and I've walked it all the way to twinsburg. I've found many arrowheads and knives made of flint as well as some weird unidentified artifacts. There is a spring that makes a waterfall just north of the beaver dammed part in Bainbridge. Clay shards and drawings in caves in twinsburg date back to native Americans s far back as 500 years ago. It's a fascinating creek and I've explored it for miles on foot and never grown tired of it. Tanglewood forest is another area I've found artifacts.
It’s 4000 years ago brother
@@Dillonmac96 I'm aware of that. In fact it's actually millions of years old. Civilisations have used that area for countless ages possibly as far back as primitive men have existed in North America. My point was that I've found things dating back as far s 500 years old. Most older items would be buried much deeper or degraded over time from weather and natural forces. Lots of relics from the 1800s and early 1900s are still able to be found. Arrowheads, spears, clay shards and such mostly found in caves or rivers, are older, probably nothing older than the 1500s-1700s , but still antique.
Hiding giant Skeleton bodies!
Giants-Sasquatch-Aliens-Nephilim is why there is a cover up
OK boomer
@@hiddenohiohistory heart my comment
No, it is not.
@@sarahrosen4985 riiiight, just another shill not providing proof
They're still around the headeaters of tinkers.
I live very close to Bedford metroparks. Seen some of those areas. Some facts wrong though, one trail closed sign is there because original horse trail washed out. Also how did they not see the Indian trail tree off trail , very close to sign????
The sad thing is there were so many earth works in what is now known as Ohio there were motions set to preserve while it was still the Northwest Territory.
Ohio's thoroughly researched mounds have made it on the preservation list and are up for a UNESCO consideration. For those who are not interested enough to read my following post-mounds were built on river plains not in well-forested areas with deep cut gorges and waterfalls. Maybe a rogue or displaced group tried it, it's possible. It's certainly not worth destroying the legacy we do have to find out.
Just curious, are you a huge Pfizer supporter as well? You seem like you don't appreciate people questioning what they are told.
@@jay-by1se No one has questioned me. I am responsibly rebutting information that was conveyed to the world that 1) is not likely to be true and 2) does not mean much if it is. I offered the OP a place to do deep research on the Cuyahoga Valley Region, an opportunity to meet those he accuses of actively hiding sites, a valid geographical challenge, an alternate theory lacking conspiracy, and a happy ending for our mound builders. I didn't even say he was wrong. In my experience that is about the most fair, open and well-rounded way to present a rebuttal. Also, I can't think of a single good reason to defend Pfizer Pharmaceuticals. In fact, I believe they do far more harm than good. Though I have no idea how that even relates.
The aboriginals in North America built more than mounds
Unesco for international control of the site and research says what? Throughly researched and where are the known skeletons found in the last century? Isn’t it funny how they show a hole in Indiana that is covered in these sites including a park called mounds park in a flat land Forrest! Back to school for you!
@liz noble it does mean much if it's true. We were taught that Native Americans were just savages living in teepees. That they had no civilizations here just hunter gatherers. And before them was nothing. So if there is proof of ancient sites dating further back than modern historians claim then I think it's time to teach a different story than the one we were told.
They don't want us discovering the truth about the area
Another guy has a video that said the Tinkers creek stone site was a dam made by a guy who had a woolen factory there
Alexis de tocqueville mentions in democracy in America about the Mounds in Mount Washington near Cincinnati where I'm from they're just as you mentioned an ancient sophisticated Society
If you want to read the journals of these people, read the Book of Mormon. It is a 1000-year record of the indians of the Mississippi and Ohio rivers.
That was a huge axe head. Could it be giants?
No.
Its the place where the eygptian resided
I can't be sure but the proximity to the large population of Cuyahoga county ,
And the prevalence of both graffiti and vandalism across the area are probably the reason
for the darth of information about the sites and their locations .
It’s pronounced Ki-a-hoga.
Yeah I know. Google voice API doesn't though lol
Giants /sons of fallen angels used to rule the world until humans killed them off
Well now that's a hole lot of interesting things, and a lot more in the comments. NPS I've heard that before? Oh yeah, I used to work there!
I used to live near Hopewell, New Jersey. There were tons of ‘hills’ in the area. Washington State Park, where Washington supposedly crossed the Delaware River during the Revolutionary War, has a lot of mounds and gorges. On the Pennsylvania side, the park features Bowman’s Tower. No one exactly knows it’s true history. It looks more like an observatory then a defensive fortification. I’ve always felt the area was different in some way. I would love to see a LiDAR image of the area.
I now live near Wissahickon State Park in Pennsylvania. Within the park is Kelpius’ Cave, supposed built by a hermit monk and his band of mystics, or so says a marker placed there by the AMORC Rosicrucians. I have seen the same exact “cave” described as an eclipse predictor in the book ‘Earth Magic’. These ‘caves’ can also be found in Vermont, New York, England, France, Germany and more. The park is right on a gorge, as are most megalithic sites. There are numerous stone walls, standing stones, stone structures that appear to be Dolmens and caves that seem unnatural.
All sites are hidden in plain site past Wooster ohio ....if this is above ground ...what is under...ohios plate has never moved...interesting place in Medina ohio ...
The same thing happens here in Arkansas as well. Whenever the forestry of federal park people build roads through ancient campgrounds they cover the road with blue chert in order to hide flakes and other artifacts so they don't have to do archaeological surveys and risk not being able to open a new road or make a pay to camp campsite. They have also in recent years sold massive tracts of timber from these sites and the skidders and other equipment tear the sites to shreds. They need that money to hire people to sit around or start fires that kill bats so they can get more funding to "protect" the bats.
OMG I AM AT THE PART WHERE I REALIZE INDIAN POINT IS THE EXACT PLACE I HAVE BEEN GOING.
My brother and I used to fish there when we were kids, it is beautiful land, wish I could go back there someday one more time.
Another example of whitewashing of Native history...implications always seem to point out that pre-historic people could not have built megalithic sites. Archeology had done this too with megalithic sites in Africa...basically, people of color could not have built such things. I've been to the cemetery mostly out of 'spooky' legend curiosity...meh, nothing of note other than obvious remains of people up there drinking, etc. As some of the old-school archeologists die out maybe the next generation will be more open-minded.
Also ancient brits from Ireland Wales Scotland and England have mounds
I wonder myself why the earthworks are not public knowledge. Any road that crosses a creek in ky or Ohio has a hill or earthwork within a 1/8 of a mile from the creek. Alot have houses on them. Some have churches and cemtaries. They completely designed everything we see. Hills and valleys. Arrowheads were made for cutting through roots in the woods and planting crops. This would require lots of flint rock. The towns by a big creek or river have old concrete steps built into a bank leading up to the historical houses. Its all mounds and earthworks.
We found arrow heads all day down by the creek just west of Columbus
They dont want you to find the Blackbeard Giants' bones.
It's "ky-ah-hoe-ga" (Cuyahoga).
It's ky-yo-ga (Cayahoga)....I guess it depends on what part of the country you're from....You say To matto and I'll say To may to
I can't get googles text to voice API to say LiDAR right either lol
I think the pic at 1:39 is just remains from the Erie Canal.
We do have sites, but so many of them were destroyed &/ or forgotten over the years. Many other rumored places are faked. A few may have existed & were never historically noted or reported. In my research, there were about three village sites in various places around Cleveland (presumably from around 1600, when whatever people were living there began getting sick & decided their village must be cursed, so they had to move it.), three more village sites in Ashtabula County, a looted & destroyed indian burial ground in Parkman, another burial ground along the Cuyahoga River that has been noted & excavated by archaeologists, a burial mound in Kent, another in North Benton which no longer exists, a petroglyph site in Lake or Ashtabula Counties (I forget where), presumably another nearly gone petroglyph site in Geauga County near Middlefield which I passed once & can now no longer find the location or or any evidence it ever existed, & third petroglyph site right on the Ohio River in East Liverpool, which is now inaccessible due to the building of a dam & the water pressure may have likely scrubbed it clean, by now, and an odd structure at the head of the Grand River that was clearly man-made, but no one was ever able to make sense of it & a few surviving path marking trees, like Akron's semi-famous Signal Tree.
From after 1700, there is another village under Cleveland, a village under Conneaut, a village under Andover, one in the Cuyahoga National Forest & Youngstown's Council Rock, where the Shawnee & Lenape would gather for political & celebratory occasions, though it's been moved from its original location.
"Officially" it's the remnants of a 'grist mill' from the late 1700's. The only existing maps from the time corroborate this, despite it being:
1. Impossible from an engineering standpoint to construct a rough cut stone dam wall that terminates on the opposite side of the river, which is a shale cliff face
2. The large blocks that were supposedly from the wall have fallen upstream in the river surge
3. No deed records exist of this grist mill's owner either buying or leasing said property despite records being kept from the time period in question
Remnants of a mill can be found a little further downstream where the Tinker's Creek was diverted. I hope to do a video in the future about the ox trail leading to and from the "grist mill" as well as the massive earthworks and stone ruins in the vicinity. :)
@@hiddenohiohistory Tinker's Creek is in Ashtabula, right? That name's kind of ringing a bell from an old ghost story.
@@MrChristianDT Tinker's Creek runs from Kent northward through several cities and terminates into the Cuyahoga in Valley View. It originates in Lake Rockwell/Pippen which is a MASSIVE native american site owned by the Akron Water Department and sealed off like a demilitarized zone
@@hiddenohiohistory Ok. I just looked it up & was thinking of Tinker's Hollow on Conneaut Creek. This place is a little further west than I've ever gotten. I've visited the burial mound at Lake Rockwell.
@@hiddenohiohistory it's sealed off because it's the water supply for Akron, and they don't want it polluted or contaminated.
There are identical stones walls and ruins on a Sacred mountain, now inhabited by "odd" people on Crow Mountain near Russellville ARKANSAS. There is so many caves there, writings, but no one knows because the locals don't say much.
Was it late Paleo?
interesting
I live in Ohio, check out the Cincinnati tablets those are interesting ancient writing or alphabet on stone tablets
Where can I get the list of locations? And info about the locations? I’m always down there
If you are really still looking into this hit me up now.
I note (at 3.29 in transcript) that an evaluation test pit could not be dug at a site as there was a bogus claim that there was a 19th century graveyard there. But it seems it would have been fine to dig the mound belonging to the indigenous population and that there might have been monetary value to the artefacts they would hope to find. How disgusting is that?
Why doesn't the government want us to know the truth
I wish I knew but I have some theories. Radio carbon dates already documented by archaeologists seem problematic (like the 9,200 year old human remains found next to the Chagrin River), especially when combined with the sheer size of some of the earthworks. Also there's: industrial pollutants, corruption, and some really odd partnerships between billionaire real estate investors and the department of the interior as well as advanced material scientists and the department of defence. I'm hoping to make a video about it soon - but I'm a little hesitant.
"Because they don't want looters tearing the sites up" is the most likely explanation. But hyperbole gets more clicks.
Because they are as much in the the dark as we are....
Because truth is way more boring than conspiracy.
Giants in mounds
Look up the news paper articles from the early 1800s about Giants
Some of this is ridiculous. I’ve spent a lot of time down in that gorge and see a lot of modern man’s mark in it. The stone wall is not ancient, nor are the stone fire pits along the bridal trail.
With that said, I have seen old marking trees along some of the trails. To think there wasn’t any ancient peoples walking this area is also ridiculous.
WHO/How would SomeOne Contact a Knowledgeable Person to Identify Artifacts that I've Found on My Property in the Cuyahoga Valley?
Giants hurried in Serpent Mount.
kī àh HOG ah !
At this point the health of the park, maintaining old growth trees/threatened species and resource recovery is far more important than digging up graves for undetermined archaeological or monetary value. And I have to believe the pre-Columbus? (think that one's been debunked) peoples would understand that far better than we can even wrap our selfish short-sighted little minds around. I have never heard anyone deny the Cuyahoga Valley or Metroparks are rich with indigenous history; indeed all you need to do is read the names of 3/4 of the areas from Cleveland on down to well, the whole river...
There are plenty of petroglyphs along the creeks in the Metroparks that are visible to anyone. There are constant explorer programs for adults and children that talk history and search artifacts. In the realm of park management sometimes there are sites that have yet to be studied, are waiting on grant approval or require much specialized time and research and don't get trails built straight to them so thousands of people, even the most respectful of hikers, can tread them down. I have never been deterred in my wanderings in any of the parks, except by dangerous area signs. In fact, in doing so I have met some amazing people doing the work that will keep our current and future loved ones alive. Also, Reclamation Signs are no BS-a couple of fungus spores, errant seeds or a leaf with insect eggs stuck to the bottom of your boots and you alone can ruin a recovering prairie or struggling wetland.
I think if you do some additional research you'll find that jagged, hilly environments with great gorges and grand abundant trees were not where our ancestor friends tended to build mound formations. No one's hiding a Cahokia here. In CVNP and the Metroparks we have a old forested areas that someday may become the closest thing America has to an ancient forest. Do you know how many people, moreso children, have never seen a tree so big they couldn't wrap their arms around it? I think the richest legacy we have from our area's native population is the trees (and with them biodiversity) they managed to protect.
There may be a little hush and secrecy around trying to reclaim, contain, and detoxify the river and Helltown-but that's about your biggest mystery here. Just that and farmers with land disputes. I think you'll find people of the area have just proven far more interested in river fires, i.e. Burning Water, and the Canal Way/Towpath trail eras of history. It's monuments are so clearly visible, easily explainable and linked to the present. It's an interesting story and no one has to think about the battles raged for the land. A lot of indigenous history was probably destroyed for the sake of the Towpath, but by no one alive today. If you want an in depth history of the Valley's ancestral communities start at Cuyahoga Falls and work out from there. Or you can start at Lake Erie and take it into the MetroParks. If there are bones we can leave them buried for another 100 years, rather than destroy the beauty we have and nature we need to risk digging up a the few usual artifacts, ancient trash mounds and privies, or nothing at all. If you want to recognize and respect the original people of NE Ohio go take a walk in the woods and take all your senses, the elders will speak directly to you.
While I agree with much of ur well written post. I must disagree that mounds are not worth excavating. My Ind. education emphasized Columbus discovery of America over the Native peoples that have been here far longer. It's just more of to the victor goes the spoils of war.
What's worse is when industrialists pay experts to claim mounds are "glacial in origin" so businesses and municipalities can mine them for gravel fill or other. I don't know if they should be excavated, but I'd at least like them to be acknowledged as existing and actually protect them. Ignoring them and trying to hide them is how sites end up looted.
@@brettwentz1020 I too was raised on Columbus though it never made sense to me that he was the first here, so I always assumed he was just a figurehead. In 11th grade our history teacher read us Columbus's journals and ruined my ability to take teachers or textbooks as end sources of truth. And I believe neglecting history results in a loss of connection to place and ancestors, which isn't healthy. I want to smack a few generations for not respecting the wisdom of ancestors, which cost us some very essential knowledge about biodiversity, land management and greed. And so now 90% of our elders today are old, rich white dudes who deserve zero respect. I think potential sites are worth protecting from industry (and now in Ohio thanks to HB 507 snuck through over the holidays, we now have to protect them from government agencies mean to preserve our resources) and ignorance. In fact, nothing makes my blood boil quite like industrial "progress" or "energy" development. The greater part of my belief is that we need to first back these all consuming monsters off before we even take the time to study or excavate sites. As it stands right now you could be happily studyng a site with your whole graduate class only to come back from a long weekend to find it suspiciously burnt to the ground rendering it a loss or "dangerous" site that you can no longer access.
@@hiddenohiohistory Also, as much as I do see the value of archaeology on so, so many levels) I have yet to confidently feel historic gravesites should be dug up. I have a deep feeling of reverence and like to experience the sacredness of a maintained, but undisturbed site.Petroglyphs make me feel that way. There's a compromise possible there. And I think if you are missing any petroglyphs they may have been removed to Crystal Lake, out of place-but at least not gone forever.
@liz noble Very, very good point, I can possibly see excavating and find out if they are Graves but return to original. We have excavated European Graves and reburied them. Viking long boats have been researched. however, I am not aware of anything early american natives had that we could research. I am not any kind of an expert here.
Yep,,
Maybe we should go in with armed groups. What are they hiding.
I belive not everything is of native origin. Could the ancient brits etc have lived there since they used copper alot.
Kai uh hoga. Thats how you pronounce cuyahoga.
Is there any DNA with regards to who these people were?
No. The soil is very acidic. Usually human remains are completely gone. Except in the rare occasion that they're found in a well built megalithic tomb, in which case the remains quickly disappear within bureaucracy and the tomb is covered over. Look up 1853 Everett school house.
i feel dumber after watching this.
bit dramatic.
They were the so-called", Giants " ,that were hear long before the " Indians".these people were in Harmony with mother/ father earth , beyond our tiny understandings of reality
Can't handle the computer voice. It destroys any credibility on the side in my opinion
Got it. Ill use my own in the next video. I hate the sound of my voice so please be patient lol
@@hiddenohiohistory everybody hates their own voice oh, yeah you'll have some people make fun of you, just remember they're covering up their own insecurities by making fun of others