I have had this a long time. Although I love the individual tools from topaz, I still think this product has a long way to go. I was not going to upgrade but they had a sale so I took it. I still thing Topaz is the best but Photo AI is not very good and I think your video proved it. There are other products on the market that are much better for faces
I disagree, the recent update is even better! In the end it's a combination of the program and the actual photo you are using. Dependent on light, whether it is a bad JPG, and etc determines how good or bad the outcome is. Topaz Labs Photo Ai is number one for faces, anything else I've tried totally changes the face to a completely different person, not good. Oh well thanks for watching tho! Have a great day!!
@@Photo911 Parker photography, another youtube channel agrees with me and says the latest update is a downgrade. The problem I find, you ran into. The ai does not choose the subject correctly which is a major problem and creates longer edit times. It is faster just to paint your own (yes, the paint brush is better and faster but I should not even have to use it, the program should be able to figure out a face.
@@r1chm I agree it should find a face and 99% of the time it does. I just worked on a badly damaged photo from the 1930's and it worked wonderfully. Found and cleaned up all 5 faces. Again depends on the photo and etc.
I’m seeing a faint line by their chins, but it’s not distracting. When I use Photo Ai it’s a great starting point, the end result is always done in Photoshop. I don’t believe Photo Ai is supposed to be the end all be all for fixing pics. What’s your work flow like, where do you place Photo Ai?
I believe your "Strength" was too low for that hair selection. You were only at 17%. What ticks me off is that a year ago Autopilot would have done everything without any intervention from you. They have totally eviscerated Autopilot and made every photo a horrendous "WORK" project. There is literally NO AI in this program any longer. Topaz has abandoned their original concept and simply made a MANUAL PHOTO EDITOR.
Thanks for watching!! I left it at 17%, after doing testing before filming. Autopilot still does everything for you on a pic, the Ai works great. It shouldn't be the be all and end all. Giving you the option of more or less doesn't negate the fact it still works, it gives you the option of fine tuning whatever your doing. I can't ever see working on photos a "horrendous WORK project". We're not getting blisters or breaking a nail working on a computer with a mouse or Wacom tablet. You know? Have a great day!!
Thanks for responding. It is a workflow thing. I digitize thousands of negatives and slides. A year ago I could send 50 or even 100 images to it from Lightroom Classic and let them all run through Autopilot, while I worked in Lightroom on the already processed images, adding keywords, correcting the Years the images were taken, and adding Camera information to the images. (I ask clients to provide that if possible and I use LensTagger to update all that for them). That workflow just doesn't work anymore. Autopilot no longer denoises the images automatically, nor does it intelligently sharpen them. I have all the settings configured so that it should do that but it no longer does. Each image must now be edited individually, so for the most part I just don't use Photo Ai any longer. They had most of the bugs worked out about a year back so for a while it was an absolute pleasure to use, then they started adding all the layering and adjustment tools. Last July, after photographing a wedding in low light and high ISO I tried using Photo Ai on the images and struck out totally. I even had their tech support on my computer and they couldn't get their own program to work properly. A short time after that they they actually informed me by email that they had abandoned their original stated goal of having a program that would use Ai to automatically improve images ...in favor of giving more "granular" control. That totally blew batch processing. Prior to that I was using it for hundreds of photos almost daily. Once they made that change Batch Processing was DEAD. Now it takes as long to process one image as it did then to do 20 or more. It has also deteriorated in other ways. Now if an image has lots of noise as many old slide and negative photos do, it adds artifacts so overpowering they resemble chain link fences or burnt and blistered wood. You won't experience this unless you are using a similar workflow ...digitizing old images via re-shooting the negs or slides with a digital camera or scanning the photos using a good scanner. New photos shot on today's digital cameras of course are no problem, (other than high ISO low light images) but then they don't need Photo Ai. Get 2000 slides, negatives and prints from a customer to digitize for them and it is a whole different story. For awhile, about a year ago Autopilot worked perfectly, or almost, and if further work was necessary it could be done in Lightroom Classic. Now that workflow is totally impossible because Autopilot screws up on 80% plus of the digitized old slides, negs and prints. With the new tools in Lightroom Classic I've stopped using Photo Ai other than checking it out again after each update. What I'm finding is that unfortunately, it is getting progressively worse and increasingly frustrating to use@@Photo911
I can see where that would be very frustrating with a backlog of that many things to do. Wow, I would and wouldn't want to be that busy, that's quite the work load. Financially it would be cool, but that's a lot, at my age (62), I probably wouldn't have the patience to do that if Autopilot wasn't doing what I would expect it to do. Don't forget that you can go into Autopilot and structure it to do what you wish it to do. I know for me, I've changed a few settings to make it use and do what I normally do when I'm using it as a plugin for Photoshop. It's interesting, that I still have Lightroom installed on my machine, but I've completely stopped using it. Like you said Workflow. Everyone's is different. Good stuff, thanks for the comment.
I'm 78 my friend and I still enjoy shooting sports, events and weddings. Being retired for several years from my day job resulted in having lots of extra hours to do things and I enjoy that digitization stuff. Thankfully Lightroom and Photoshop are still dedicated to their customers and every release of their programs makes our lives easier. I just wish they would buy Topaz and give the boot to whoever is directing what is sure to be its demise. @@Photo911
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I have had this a long time. Although I love the individual tools from topaz, I still think this product has a long way to go. I was not going to upgrade but they had a sale so I took it. I still thing Topaz is the best but Photo AI is not very good and I think your video proved it. There are other products on the market that are much better for faces
I disagree, the recent update is even better! In the end it's a combination of the program and the actual photo you are using. Dependent on light, whether it is a bad JPG, and etc determines how good or bad the outcome is. Topaz Labs Photo Ai is number one for faces, anything else I've tried totally changes the face to a completely different person, not good. Oh well thanks for watching tho! Have a great day!!
@@Photo911 Parker photography, another youtube channel agrees with me and says the latest update is a downgrade. The problem I find, you ran into. The ai does not choose the subject correctly which is a major problem and creates longer edit times. It is faster just to paint your own (yes, the paint brush is better and faster but I should not even have to use it, the program should be able to figure out a face.
@@r1chm I agree it should find a face and 99% of the time it does. I just worked on a badly damaged photo from the 1930's and it worked wonderfully. Found and cleaned up all 5 faces. Again depends on the photo and etc.
The before/after of the women at the concert seemed to have dark square casts around their faces….
I’m seeing a faint line by their chins, but it’s not distracting. When I use Photo Ai it’s a great starting point, the end result is always done in Photoshop. I don’t believe Photo Ai is supposed to be the end all be all for fixing pics. What’s your work flow like, where do you place Photo Ai?
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I believe your "Strength" was too low for that hair selection. You were only at 17%. What ticks me off is that a year ago Autopilot would have done everything without any intervention from you. They have totally eviscerated Autopilot and made every photo a horrendous "WORK" project. There is literally NO AI in this program any longer. Topaz has abandoned their original concept and simply made a MANUAL PHOTO EDITOR.
Thanks for watching!! I left it at 17%, after doing testing before filming. Autopilot still does everything for you on a pic, the Ai works great. It shouldn't be the be all and end all. Giving you the option of more or less doesn't negate the fact it still works, it gives you the option of fine tuning whatever your doing. I can't ever see working on photos a "horrendous WORK project". We're not getting blisters or breaking a nail working on a computer with a mouse or Wacom tablet. You know? Have a great day!!
Thanks for responding. It is a workflow thing. I digitize thousands of negatives and slides. A year ago I could send 50 or even 100 images to it from Lightroom Classic and let them all run through Autopilot, while I worked in Lightroom on the already processed images, adding keywords, correcting the Years the images were taken, and adding Camera information to the images. (I ask clients to provide that if possible and I use LensTagger to update all that for them). That workflow just doesn't work anymore. Autopilot no longer denoises the images automatically, nor does it intelligently sharpen them. I have all the settings configured so that it should do that but it no longer does. Each image must now be edited individually, so for the most part I just don't use Photo Ai any longer. They had most of the bugs worked out about a year back so for a while it was an absolute pleasure to use, then they started adding all the layering and adjustment tools. Last July, after photographing a wedding in low light and high ISO I tried using Photo Ai on the images and struck out totally. I even had their tech support on my computer and they couldn't get their own program to work properly. A short time after that they they actually informed me by email that they had abandoned their original stated goal of having a program that would use Ai to automatically improve images ...in favor of giving more "granular" control. That totally blew batch processing. Prior to that I was using it for hundreds of photos almost daily. Once they made that change Batch Processing was DEAD. Now it takes as long to process one image as it did then to do 20 or more. It has also deteriorated in other ways. Now if an image has lots of noise as many old slide and negative photos do, it adds artifacts so overpowering they resemble chain link fences or burnt and blistered wood.
You won't experience this unless you are using a similar workflow ...digitizing old images via re-shooting the negs or slides with a digital camera or scanning the photos using a good scanner. New photos shot on today's digital cameras of course are no problem, (other than high ISO low light images) but then they don't need Photo Ai. Get 2000 slides, negatives and prints from a customer to digitize for them and it is a whole different story. For awhile, about a year ago Autopilot worked perfectly, or almost, and if further work was necessary it could be done in Lightroom Classic. Now that workflow is totally impossible because Autopilot screws up on 80% plus of the digitized old slides, negs and prints. With the new tools in Lightroom Classic I've stopped using Photo Ai other than checking it out again after each update. What I'm finding is that unfortunately, it is getting progressively worse and increasingly frustrating to use@@Photo911
I can see where that would be very frustrating with a backlog of that many things to do. Wow, I would and wouldn't want to be that busy, that's quite the work load. Financially it would be cool, but that's a lot, at my age (62), I probably wouldn't have the patience to do that if Autopilot wasn't doing what I would expect it to do. Don't forget that you can go into Autopilot and structure it to do what you wish it to do. I know for me, I've changed a few settings to make it use and do what I normally do when I'm using it as a plugin for Photoshop. It's interesting, that I still have Lightroom installed on my machine, but I've completely stopped using it. Like you said Workflow. Everyone's is different. Good stuff, thanks for the comment.
I'm 78 my friend and I still enjoy shooting sports, events and weddings. Being retired for several years from my day job resulted in having lots of extra hours to do things and I enjoy that digitization stuff. Thankfully Lightroom and Photoshop are still dedicated to their customers and every release of their programs makes our lives easier. I just wish they would buy Topaz and give the boot to whoever is directing what is sure to be its demise. @@Photo911