Who Could Actually Buy TikTok (Ranked)
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With TikTok's sale now on the horizon, we apprise which company is most likely to purchase TikTok - including Apple, Meta, Amazon, Elon Musk and even Walmart.
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can't wait for elon musk to change the name to xvideos
Wait a minute
xTox?
Dew it
And make tiktok to a bank for 50% of the worlds population
😂😂
Weird way to announce that TLDR is buying TikTok.
I know this is a joke but unfortunately it has to be sold to an American company ☹️
@@gengstar09 Jack Kelly is going to make US based TLDR News Muh Free Speech 'N' Gunz LLC and use that to buy it.
Where is tldr from
@@gregoryturk1275 according to their wiki,”TLDR News is an English independent news group focused on making the news more simple to understand, and state they focus on a neutral or nonpartisan perspective. They have seven different channels for different types of news, each mainly consisting of regional news, as stated by their channel names. The "TLDR" acronym is "Too Long, Didn't Read."
-So England
Idk who TLDR is aside from the normal acronym, but that's good free advertisement. I'm not falling for it... I'm not falling for it...*googles it*
Too be fair, Microsoft does own LinkedIn, which does have 310 million monthly active users. So surely it would count as a major social network even if its social networking is for a different purpose
Agreed. The video also failed to mention that Amazon owns Twitch, so they have clearly shown pretty big interest in this area too.
@@PotatoSalad11 exactly!
Since Saudi Aramco is not allowed, let's pitch in the second funniest option: Raytheon!
A WTF option the UAW
A O crap option Truth social
A funny option Rollex
Nonono hear me out, Lockheed-Martin
Ah yes, the makers of the Knife Missle!
The Saudis will probably buy Truth Social....for completely not corrupt reasons.
I hope Apollo hasn't seen this comment
"... that he now insists we call X."
Literally LoL'd.
I think Walmart is a serious contender. They are already trying to buy Vizio to expand their advertising business and they would be in the best position to increase shopping on TikTok. Plus, they would probably face less regulatory resistance than Amazon since their existing businesses don't technically overlap very much with TikTok.
Just a nitpick, Nvidia doesn't actually make the chips, TSMC/Intel does.
What does Nvidia do then ? Just the design ?
@@nonnon4460 design and software, similar to AMD.
Intel has their own fabs, but even still they outsource some of their production
@@nonnon4460 Designing and selling
Exactly
@@nonnon4460 Yes
Another option would be for Tik Tok to do an initial public offering of their stock. Selling the stock to the public would avoid the problems mentioned and might get them more money. Obviously their would be not anti trust issues.
Based on Trump media, a SPAC merger might generate a small fortune for TikTok.
Nobody's selling anything, China already banned any sale back in 2020.
If America doesn't have the balls to ban it outright then pack up and go home.
Bro isn't TikTok already owned by a company that is already public
There is another scenario. Creating a separate "TIK TOK US", owned by a an american located branch, might just help them stall the motion. Also, selling just this TIK TOK US branch now or in the future is a much simplier endeavour
Unless Bytedance and other Chinese shells do not have a controlling share of "TIK TOK US", it is the same issue. And that is the whole point of discussion here.
"selling just this TIK TOK US branch" That's literally what they discussed here - hence the topic on whether the algorithm would be sold or not.
@@serebii666 I doubt that "TIK TOK US" is worth 50 billion, more than Twitter world. So no, the discussion here was discussing in term of buying TIK TOK wholesame
@@dorianodet8064 Tiktok US is for sure worth over 50 billion
A short form video platform with only Americans on it sounds absolutely wild
@@dorianodet8064 TikTok is way more valuable than Twitter - Twitter has less monthly active users than Pinterest. Also Twitter is worth only 12.5 Billion - the whole reason why Twitter board forced the sale to Elon was just how much overvalued what he offered to buy it for. They had a fiduciary duty to their stockholders to accept. Then the rebrand to x cut like 7 billion off its real evaluation. Tiktok in the US on the other hand accounts for 8% of ByteDance's revenue (80% being from Duoyin in China). In 2023 it was estimated that Bytedance made 41 billion just from Ad-revenue alone, of that 16 of those billions were Tiktok's and it has a market cap of 200 billion.
Bobby "Darth" Kotick buying TikTok is hilarious.
These types of video from TLDR Business are the best! 🙌Needless to mention it's very interesting topic, curious to see what's going to happen. 🤔
IMO it’s going to be a group of PE firms. They’ll hold for a few years and scale the ad revenue, then take it public for north of $500bn.
Microsoft doesnt own a major social network? Does LinkedIn not count? 🤔
Ikr
Kinda crae
What the hell is rumble. Never heard of it.
Good. Rumble is one of those 'alt-tech' platforms founded and used by conspiracy-peddlers who keep getting banned from more mainstream social media platforms. Lots of anti-vaxers, people claiming Biden stole the election, people warning that the Democrats are importing mexicans to replace white americans, that sort of thing. That's the problem with the alt-tech sites: No-one will use them as long as the mainstream platforms with their far larger audience are an option, so the only people on places like Rumble are those who are not welcome on RUclips. And you have to be pretty nuts to fall foul of RUclips's ineffective moderation practices.
Capitol rioters
It’s like RUclips but for people who are banned from RUclips
I think the Tate brothers posted there for a while
It's RUclips for Trump supporters
Very loose moderation, home to the sorts that get banned from other platforms.
7:01 That transition to reveal thumbnail for another tldr video was dope. As if it was the car's tail light that smashed the glass 😆
I dont think the ccp is letting go of tiktok
It's not a domestically used app. It's banned in China actually. It's only benefit to the ccp was It's data harvesting. Considering that they could just row out another app tomorrow to do that they might as well make money off of selling tiktok.
You can't let go of something you're not holding. TikTok is not Douyin.
@@heychrisfoxTikTok is owned by bytedance which is bound to control laws to the highest level by the CCP. Please don’t misinform.
But the ccp has a connection to tiktok in some shape or form
@@shadow10198 But not enough to warrant you saying 'they are not letting go of tiktok'. Of course there is some link between them, but thats the same link as Volkswagen has with german government for example. But its not going to mean that they are under direct control of CCP.
Please sell to Space Karen. They will rename it to X2 and run it into the ground. Net benefit for everybody.
I think Microsoft - No antitrust against them, most valuable company in the world, no existing social business (not counting LinkedIn)
I truly hope TikTok will call it a day and leave the US. And I truly hope we’ll have a similar scenario in the EU in the coming years.
The US userbase is very profitable. It would be foolish to leave that market empty handed.
I hope it also happens with facebook and instagram, they do basically the same lol
and then all the tik tok nerds will migrate to Meta, giving them control of the young populations :D
I mean the fear for the chinese government with tik tok is a bit stupid.
Meta does not do anythig diffrent, they sell it to data broker and both the chines and america government buy it, alongside with a lot of other shady actors.
@@conrado4784Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and other western owned smp don't work in China. If the CCP could decide they don't want these SMPs, the US Govt. could decide either
That aren’t going to sell it. 150 million people in the US use Tik tok. They have plenty more users around the world. There is no way in hell they’re going to sell it. Because it sets a precedent.
It's not out of the question. 150mil people is easily 60% of their userbase. Losing 60% of anything on a good day is bad business.
You also have to keep in mind that literally all American Tiktok creators will not be posting on it anymore too. Which will probably influence other markets as well.
Honestly it would set a precedent the US may not actually like. If the rest of the world started demanding that the national subsidiaries of US unicorns were sold They would have to get the CIA involved to united fruit company them exposing American imperialism for what it actually is.
@dvv7614 not as much as you think
@@bloodfiredrake7259how? I am in Europe and tiktok ain’t going to be no fun if the US creators stop posting. They are like 80% of videos.
I wonder why the idea of splitting tiktok is not floating around. If I was one of the decision makers within bytedance I would only sell the rights to do business in the US and keep ownership of the app on the rest of the world. So we would have an american tiktok different from the rest like they have in china with doujin now
even though tiktok is owned by us company or chinese company, it is going to have same brain rot influencers lip syncing and spreading nazi ideas
Cause the ccp probably wants full control over tiktok to be able to influence the people, not just money.
I actually had assumed this is what would happen.
I think the reason that it might become all or nothing is if the US can force bytedance to sell a branch at below market value because everyone knows they have no choice but to sell, this will set a precedent for other countries to copy the US.
That's basically what the no algorithm option would be, a US subsidiary without the backend tech. But it would have to be majority US owners and based in the US for any chance to get approved.
meta still sells all your data to china and the US.
All meta platforms have the same risk as tiktok.
I actually think Wal-Mart is more likely purely because they need it more. Sure, they have less money than Amazon and less experience with social media or video platforms but they can hire people with experience. The fact is that they know Amazon is beating them right now so they need to do something drastic to even the playing field and they still got more than enough money to pull it off.
It was a bit irksome for TLDR showing their boomer side and categorising tiktok as a song and dance video platform 5:36 which if one is to look at stats is certainly not the case. Some statistics regarding the types of content on TikTok that I could find online:
Tutorials are the most popular type of content, with 62% of users preferring them.
Product or service reviews come next, with 39% of users engaging with them.
Personal stories are also popular, with 38% of users showing interest in such content.
This doesn't add up to a 100 because obviously people watch multiple types of centent, also their might be actual people who are interested in song and dance content, and there's nothing wrong with that either, but the point is that stereotyping is not ok.
Amazon makes the most sense to me: the money to do it, the reasons to buy it, and experience owning Twitch for a decade.
Rumble is a wildcard though. Especially if they change TOS to match, it would be absolutely wild to see how that moderation style would turn out at scale.
Merging prime, twitch and tiktok into one platform could make them rival facebook just imagine, prime being turnedninti a place where anyone can uployd videos but peoplw can pay for them, they already got the streaming market with twitch and with tiktok they will also control the short videos market
@@ThatBraineatingamoeba I only recently realized Twitch has shorts in addition to clips, integrating that would be wild. Same goes for affiliate links and shopping pop ups in app. Might finally make Twitch ads worth something and stop them from hemorrhaging money.
Cute format. Very creative, I like it
Here's how I would do it.
Alphabet and Walmart walk into boardroom 😂
Ok but seriously they go in on it together. Walmart handles the store side and Alphabet handles the video side. Try to keep as many of the staff as you can and try to let it operate relatively independently with a general guiding hand here and there
TikTok may not be sold because the CCP says they would rather not sell it.
Amazon has twitch already
If there is an acquisition, I'd float 2 darkhorse candidates: Netflix/Disney. Both the companies have stated that they directly compete for watch time with TikTok, and both companies are already in the entertainment industry, many of which already having connections with creators on each platform. An acquisition of this size isn't unprecedented, as Disney paid 71 billion for Fox, and TikTok is likely a better buy than Fox ever was. Netflix could also make the purchase, as they've been expanding into new markets in an attempt to diversify away from streaming. Both media giants could benefit a ton from the purchase, and in terms of management, both already have people with similar experiences.
Considering how much Disney have struggled to make Disney+ work as a money-maker, I can't see them giving themselves another problem company to make profitable. They're currently backing away from Disney+ slowly. Netflix is plausible though, if they can find the money.
At 0:54
"....sold two an American company...."
Try to get it right next time, not an American company....just sold to someone that is not from an adversarial Nation, or an adversary.
This list includes several countries, add one man from Venezuela....
Is it possible for them to just sell to the "public", i.e. splitting off the American branch of TikTok and doing an IPO for it?
This way they wouldn't have to give anything to a direct competitor and still get probably a similar amount of money.
Jeff Yass, a major US investor in Tiktok was talking to Trump at the same time that Truth Social floated. What if Yass buys Truth Social which then buys Tiktok
Yeah, I agree. Yass, Mnuchin, and Rumble are going to try and pull something. Likely roping in truth social in some way.
Wait wtf I'm at walmart buying groceries and I see a video saying they're gonna use that grocery money to buy fucking tiktok, the world officially has lost the last little bit of sense it still made
If Bobby gets tiktok he will straight up quad it's revenue in 2 years
This man has a talent for monetizing stuff
(rip blizzard)
for walmart, depending on if the TikTok accuisition is only of the US/north american branch or all operations outside of china plays a huge role. walmart doesn't have a presence in in most of the world including the biggest market after the us, europe. for this model to work they would either have to build up distribution all over the world, which seems far to big of a risk and alot of work or do their plans of pushing their online shopping exclusively in countries where they already have a presence. which seems a bit to small of a market to make such a big gamble. in a scenario where walmart buys tiktok i could also imagine them doing partnerships with local grocery store chains, so that they can spread their influence more indirectly.
you do NOT want Bobby kotick owning that platform. On second thought though he might drives it into a wall
diminishing tiktok to "dance videos" tells me you have no idea what you're talking about in regards to the value of this app. There's a reason so many people are on it and there is no satisfying reason why the gov't would force a sale.
30-39 has a great proportion in each.
the company that bought tumblr 😂
Automattic did just but Beeper, so they'd probably be open to the idea. But probably not for 50 billion. Still, it could breath me life into Tumblr.
I think it's fine if TikTok decides to not sell and just fights the case in court... Better than even chance that they win.
They could also just tell users to use a VPN in the meantime...
Anyway, I also feel that Bytedance just needs to shed a little ownership to get under the sales threshold (assuming that I'm remembering it correctly). 15% could be viable. Or 10%?
Also, EU banks could probably come together to support some group buying it... The EU isn't a "foreign adversary"... Yet.
Out of this particular list, I think Microsoft is the most sensible option. It would be a win win for both sides. And they don’t really have a foot in the socials media space (LinkedIn isn’t fully social media lol). I feel like Oracle could also work and be a very smooth transition, but obviously it doesn’t really mesh with their current business.
Amazon already owns Twitch which is a competitor to TickTock of a sort, if you squint and tilt your head a bit. Amazon are losing money on twitch and havent figured out how to make it more profitable. TickTock at the moment are trying to pivot in to livestreaming with similar features as RUclips vertical stream and twitch with monetization as they too have not quite solved the proifitability calculus.
Honestly, walmart sounds like the best fit.
I suppose Amazon bought Twitch, and they're trying for prime video. Wonder if Netflix feels like an acquisition. It will probably be a consortium which sounds like a good thing.
Some billionaires will come together to make CIA happy.
The haphazard placing of the logos in the tier list is triggering me
TikTok has regulatory issues, so probably no purchase with regulatory issues will happen. It seems a joint offer of Amazon/Walmart with Rumble being the managers is viable
Hopefully TikTok doesn’t sell and just goes F-off. Because I would hate to see any of these already giant conglomerantes and billionaires with already a ton of influence, get a huge boost in their power and wealth.
Which Investment Banks do y’all think are gonna be in on the deal? GS TMT maybe?
I have 2 more options I don’t know if they would buy TikTok:
1. Snapchat
2. Sony
Walmart makes sense also because they are already world experts at selling cheap Chinese garbage.
is letting elon have both twitter and tiktok a good idea?
Probably will be some sort of coalition of businesses like Vanguard and a mix of public traiding
Couldn't TikTok just go public on the NYSE instead of selling to another company?
I love everything about your channel except your footage looks like it's still in LOG. Any reason why you choose to do that?
what does it mean for footage to be in “LOG@
@@user-wn2pv5qb5p It means that it's shot in a very flat profile (it has very little contrast and is undersaturated). Typically people will film in LOG so they can have more information to color in post but for some reason this still looks like it wasn't colored correctly.
I don't see them selling as China will need to sign off on the deal and that isn't going to happen. Plus, users can still access it by using a VPN.
The FTC have made it so that the only ones in the US who can afford Tiktok are the ones already overinvested elsewhere. Maybe a group of the smaller investors / companies can get together, but I don't see a deal going through.
I feel Google would make sense since they never managed to do something themselves. However, I don't think anyone will buy TikTok, people will just go to RUclips and Instagram
I don't think the advantages Amazon will get from acquiring Tiktok can out weight the advantages other platforms in Southeast Asia already have. I'm pretty sure Amazon already knows what happened with Uber here so I think they'll veer off from acquiring Tiktok until they have a proper foothold in the region.
if rumble bought tiktok nearly everyone would leave tiktok lol
Hope it's Walmart. Amazon needs some competition.
I know users and brand matter, but valuations of all social media companies always seems so absurd to me. The shift in fbook to older users (i.e. people who were young when it was) and younger (more valuable) users onto tiktok (i.e. people who wanted something different to their parents and older siblings) demonstrates that social media is likely going to have a generational cycle which really limits the ability of a person or company coming in and slapping 50 billion down on the table to get meaningful returns (as they may only have 10 years as the big thing on the menu). Amazon, Alphabet, Apple etc wud probably all be better served giving 20 million each to 10 start ups aiming to be the next social media success and hoping one of them makes it
Unbiased reporting of tiktok sale to an American entity
I would personaly put Alphabet a bit higher
Microsoft owns LinkedIn, so they definitely do own a significant social media
I’d be surprised if it was anyone apart from Meta
According to past events, I think there's a good chance that TikTok will choose not to sell its US business.
It's important to point out that TikTok has faced bans and restrictions in several countries (including India). Whichever the country, TikTok did not panic and sell its overseas business.
Besides, ByteDance (China business) is the profitable parent company that has been subsidising TikTok's losses. Seems like they are okay to let TikTok dies overseas, just to prove a point.
List the company. NYSE will love it. Goldman Sach will help
Rumble purchasing tiktok would actually be pretty sweet
I like how you dismiss NVIDIA, but then say "Oh these other major tech companies could because of AI!". After all, its a ton of data they could sell to train AI. I still dont believe its likely because they seem to most of their capital is probably being spent on growing their chip market.
Also Musk id probably rate lower, most of his $ isnt that liquid considering he doesnt want to lessen his Tesla shares + his compensation package is in question. Banks would be more reluctant to work with him after they all had to take write downs on Twitter.
Honestly they probably wont sell. I dont see anyone coming close to asking price even without the algorithm or the fact they already own many social media companies. If say Facebook or Google were to try to buy it, Linda Kahn and the FTC would sue them and run out the clock.
amazon most likely, oracle least likely
Please elon and then he revive vine because he owns twitter
5:59 Microsoft owns LinkedIn
I am of the oppinion that Musk is most likely as nobody can understand how he thinks, referring to buying twiter.
If Alphabet bought TikTok, either it would be merged with RUclips Shorts or RUclips shorts would go to the same place Google Video went.
Hopefully we live in that timeline.
I can almost 100% guarantee that wouldn't happen. Anti-Trust laws and all. Definitely wouldn't go through with Biden in charge of the Executive. Trump might, I can see him trying to allow it if Mnuchin's group bought it. Though not sure how much weight the president, even him, has over anti-trust lawyers in government.
But why buy it at all? If it dies, RUclips shorts will take all it's userbase anyway. So 100% of the payoff for 0% the price.
At 4:58
Saudi aramco....
Doesn't have to be American!! Just non-adversarial....
If amazon buys Tik Tok , would thst have any effect on Twitch ?
I've heard that their US audience only account's for 10% of their user base. Why sell their business? Does the US somehow constitute a disproportionate amount of their advertising market? Seems easier just to blacklist US IP addresses. If they are worried about a dip in viewership they can invest in whatever company fills the void by their withdrawal of service. There's a fair chance that some of the digital refugees may migrate to another non-American company.
They are not asked to sell the business, just the US branch. Multi-national companies are basically a consortium of different business entities, tiktok is not different in that way, it has an EU, North American, Chinese and many other branches.
@@user-uf4rx5ih3v An important clarification; thanks. I didn't realize they incorporated branch companies. That probably comes in handy for tax/tariff purposes.
I've got to stop reading the comments before watching the video
I'd put my money on blackrock , they own a lot of things why not add one more to the list
Gamestop could also be a good entry as well but is unlikely but it would be ironic. I think the humor would be them doing it, and then putting Chinese State officials on the board of directors because they left that part out of the bill. So in a sense China would have strong control over the company that buys them out and then the US would look a little foolish because they don't know how to anticipate laws anymore. It would be funny and ironic to say the least. Gamestop, Power to the players and the newly appointed Chinese military leaders to the board.
I hope TikTok would be banned in EU as well... NOTHING good comes from the platform
Does it need to be though?
Would the lack of American content (if the sale doesn't go through) be enough to put it into a death spiral?
I think they should just transfer ownership to the guy from Singapore that testified in front of congress. It then no longer is sold to the USA nor is it owned by a foreign adversary.
Could a vpn go around the ban?
Possibly. Depends on how hard the US cracks down, they already don't like VPNs. Plus anything with a US bank account would not be allowed near it or they would get in serious trouble.
What about IPO?
Forgot Soulja boy
If i were tiktok i would sell it to the one with the highest chance of being blocked.. so meta i guess?
May i suggest a reverse merger with snapchat
If Elon musk buys it, he needs to rename it vine
Because TikTok is such a competitor to RUclips, I don’t think they would! Like why would RUclips buy TikTok when they have RUclips shorts right there doing incredibly successfully?
RUclips’s biggest aim would be to see TikTok banned, which would get rid of a major competitor without having to shell out billions of dollars and putting themselves on the spot as a potential video monopoly.
What about Disney
Shopify!
Meta or Google
Better a Tik Tok powered by Walmart than one powered by Elon Musk. Powered by practically anyone other than Elon Musk, in fact.
ByteDance should agree to sell TikTok for some absurd price. 10 trillion dollars.
Then no one would buy it? No one is forced to buy the propaganda weapon known as TikTok, it’ll just close if it can’t sell.
@@extrapolate TikTok couldn't be banned under this law because it has demonstrated a willingness to sell the app.
@@Starssingerthat’s not how it works. It either sells or it’s banned as CCP influenced ownership is what’s at the core of the law passed. It’s not about their willingness to sell.
@@extrapolate Wait until other countries start doing the same to American companies.
Maybe the EU will force Apple to be sold to them cheaply. 😁
I'm pretty sure overpricing is illegal.
the Texas Teachers fund buys it
Microsoft owns Linkedin which looks to be ranked between Discord and TikTok for traffic.
But a very different business model and a very different audience. LinkedIn is a much better fit with Microsoft's corporate market.
I now want Bobby kotick to buy it so he can ruin Tik tok
Couldn't they just do an IPO of the American branch of TikTok? This would seem much easier than finding a single buyer.
No, the users are more valuable. The algorithm in meta sucks because they try to advertise to you if they get TikTok they’re ruining it too. If TikTok starts advertising and like US brands, then that algorithm will get worse too.
Can't Bytedance just "donate" TikTok to a Chinese person with American citizenship or something similar?
"Chinese person with American citizenship" If they have Chinese citizenship too then it's still the same problem. And if they don't they have no guarantee that new bajillionaire won't just take the money and run, since they would have no stake/security of control. The company having any chinese entanglements is the issue, since Shou Zi Chew being only Singaporean, not Chinese is not enough.