It wasn't turned up at first, but I did crank it up within a few seconds of use, that is in the video. I can say I did like it, but not for the $500+ price.
Have in mind that the Festool rotational speed was on 3 at your test, so not at the maximum - which is 6 I think. So the removal rate could be even higher at Festool.
@@zwingsworkshop300 I have the product as well. It’s really worth the money, especially because the products lasts over 10 years. The cheap tools only last 2-3 years. Also the product is made in Germany, and not China - so its producted under fair conditions.
@@peterhuzinski2332I do think it is nice, and the quality is nice as well. I just can't justify that price for it. In my thirty years of woodworking, I've owned 4 orbital Sanders, one belt sander, and that one sheet sander that's in the video... and the costs for all of them are still cheaper than one Festool. If the price point was under $300, I would get one without question.
@johnbrown6189 No, that was my first experience with one. It's in the title of the video. Is only using Festool products your personal metric for professional status?
Festool is similar to buying Mercedes. Do u need it? Nope. Just like a BMW or Mercedes, you find the snobs who won't consider less! Reality? Portacable, Dewalt, Bosch, and all the other mid priced brands are just fine! I owned the track saw system and was impressed. That said, bought a $100 orange amazon brand. Cut some mdf w it. Laughed about for there was min difference. I am sure the $100 saw will die after 50 to 100 cuts. But, unless u are a true pro who feels special about paying top dollar, pass. Fyi, if u are pushing hard on sander, you are doing it wrong, lol.
@Curious_Skeptic I feel the same way. It's just a luxury brand. I am a professional (i.e., people pay me to build their millwork projects), and my clients don't care or ask what brand of tool I use. I don't lean on the sanders either, but that green Masterforce I currently use gets bogged down with very little pressure, and that's not consistent with the other brands I've owned.
Festool isn't a luxury brand. Festool is a system. All their tools work together and do most things better than your big box store stuff. Use a festool sander with one of their vacuums and then run a shitty dewalt or masterworks (lol) with your dust collector that sounds like a submarine getting ready to surface and come back and tell me there isn't a substantial difference. You'd be lying and wrong to say there isn't a huge difference. Now take that same vac and hook it up to your miter saw, table saw, router and track saw that sits on an mft table specifically made for running a track saw as accurately and easily as possible. That's why there's a price difference. They've thought of everything. Even their sand paper is leagues above that trash Diablo shit you're using. The mere fact you're talking about leaning on a sander like it's a good thing tells me everything I need to know.
@bartholomewgreatpants3425 Oh , so you just let your sander float over the surface without any pressure? Is the Festool controlled by your thoughts? I will agree the Masterforce I'm using isn't the best, but it still sands the wood just fine. Some people need fancy tools, I just need me, so I'm not surprised by your comment. Tool snobs are gonna snob. Thank you for your comment, it does help the algorithm.
@zwingsworkshop300 Lol. It should read you mind! How do 'they' justify the 1500 miter saw? I hear the same excuses over and over. 'The system' You mean over priced plastic boxes that sit on top of each other? As to pressure on sander, more or less enough to keep sander under control and light pressure. Pushing will cause wells and issues you don't want.
@Curious_Skeptic Well, yes, extra pressure will affect the sanding in a bad way. That goes without saying. Even if there was some mind control I still couldn't justify that price. I was always taught don't judge the tool being used, or how it's stored. Just judge the tool using it.
Just imagine what that Festool would have done if you actually turned the power knob up on it when you used it!!! 😜
It wasn't turned up at first, but I did crank it up within a few seconds of use, that is in the video. I can say I did like it, but not for the $500+ price.
Have in mind that the Festool rotational speed was on 3 at your test, so not at the maximum - which is 6 I think. So the removal rate could be even higher at Festool.
At 8:07 in the video, I did turn it up to the max. It's a nice tool, but not for that money.
@@zwingsworkshop300 I have the product as well. It’s really worth the money, especially because the products lasts over 10 years. The cheap tools only last 2-3 years. Also the product is made in Germany, and not China - so its producted under fair conditions.
@@peterhuzinski2332I do think it is nice, and the quality is nice as well. I just can't justify that price for it. In my thirty years of woodworking, I've owned 4 orbital Sanders, one belt sander, and that one sheet sander that's in the video... and the costs for all of them are still cheaper than one Festool. If the price point was under $300, I would get one without question.
Festool is not worth the money for a hobbyist woodworker. Professional woodworkers seldom use random orbit sanders for most of their sanding needs.
@johnbrown6189 I'm definitely not a hobbyist, but as a professional woodworker, I do use my orbital quite often.
@@zwingsworkshop300 do you use a festool?
@johnbrown6189 No, that was my first experience with one. It's in the title of the video. Is only using Festool products your personal metric for professional status?
Festool is similar to buying Mercedes. Do u need it? Nope. Just like a BMW or Mercedes, you find the snobs who won't consider less! Reality? Portacable, Dewalt, Bosch, and all the other mid priced brands are just fine! I owned the track saw system and was impressed. That said, bought a $100 orange amazon brand. Cut some mdf w it. Laughed about for there was min difference. I am sure the $100 saw will die after 50 to 100 cuts. But, unless u are a true pro who feels special about paying top dollar, pass. Fyi, if u are pushing hard on sander, you are doing it wrong, lol.
@Curious_Skeptic I feel the same way. It's just a luxury brand. I am a professional (i.e., people pay me to build their millwork projects), and my clients don't care or ask what brand of tool I use. I don't lean on the sanders either, but that green Masterforce I currently use gets bogged down with very little pressure, and that's not consistent with the other brands I've owned.
Festool isn't a luxury brand. Festool is a system. All their tools work together and do most things better than your big box store stuff. Use a festool sander with one of their vacuums and then run a shitty dewalt or masterworks (lol) with your dust collector that sounds like a submarine getting ready to surface and come back and tell me there isn't a substantial difference. You'd be lying and wrong to say there isn't a huge difference. Now take that same vac and hook it up to your miter saw, table saw, router and track saw that sits on an mft table specifically made for running a track saw as accurately and easily as possible. That's why there's a price difference. They've thought of everything. Even their sand paper is leagues above that trash Diablo shit you're using. The mere fact you're talking about leaning on a sander like it's a good thing tells me everything I need to know.
@bartholomewgreatpants3425 Oh , so you just let your sander float over the surface without any pressure? Is the Festool controlled by your thoughts? I will agree the Masterforce I'm using isn't the best, but it still sands the wood just fine. Some people need fancy tools, I just need me, so I'm not surprised by your comment. Tool snobs are gonna snob. Thank you for your comment, it does help the algorithm.
@zwingsworkshop300 Lol. It should read you mind! How do 'they' justify the 1500 miter saw? I hear the same excuses over and over. 'The system' You mean over priced plastic boxes that sit on top of each other? As to pressure on sander, more or less enough to keep sander under control and light pressure. Pushing will cause wells and issues you don't want.
@Curious_Skeptic Well, yes, extra pressure will affect the sanding in a bad way. That goes without saying. Even if there was some mind control I still couldn't justify that price. I was always taught don't judge the tool being used, or how it's stored. Just judge the tool using it.