Wow thats a lot of money! That cost more then my crossbow, muzzle loader, both my rifles and my lifetime hunting license all together. I been slaying deer for years just fine!
You know people seem to forget the Ravin crossbow is a really nice crossbow but you're also shooting really high quality bolts out of that crossbow Black Eagle is like one of the best bolts you can buy if you were probably shooting anything else that would affect your accuracy but nobody brings that up nobody gives credit to the Black Eagle company that produces those bolts that shoots so well out of the crossbow
Honestly, the stock arrows that come with Ravin aren’t the greatest they are only used probably because they are the cheapest, and it’s not the arrows that is causing this it is the design of the roller system that is causing this accuracy
I have a Ten Point Titan HLX. It’s 12 years old now. Still drilling deer every year at 304 fps. I’ll never pay $2400 for any crossbow. Old school rule still applies. The faster it shoots the quicker it breaks.
You are right a high dollar crossbow is not for everyone, and of course, if the crossbow is shooting a higher feet per second it can lead to things breaking faster than older slower models because they have more tension on it
@@blacksrfm no, 20+ years ago things were made to last, now they do things so that as soon as the warranty expires,they tear so you have to buy a new one everybody is looking at profit. if once the thickness of the string was 400 used to make it strong and solid, today they use the 1000 string which is thinner (and fits more in the reel, so they earn more, and you get less quality)
Great shooting and nicely done video. I think the biggest reason for the consistent accuracy of these RAVIN crossbows is the "Hiliacoil" technology where the arrow floats off the rail. That said, their R1-10 has a cantilevered scope mount and costs a lot less, The R-26 a newer version has the same fixed scope, firmly attached on both ends and it's not cantilvered! And it's only $1999 or so, a lot less.
If you’re shooting off of a bench and it isn’t level, you’re going to be off. You’ll keep chasing your bolts. Sometimes if you move the scope you have to make sure that the vertical crosshair is perfectly straight so you’re. It leaning to one side or the other, especially at longer ranges. Trial and error over time has lead me to figure it out when using crossbows vs rifles.
300 and whatever you said per second deep per second you gotta remember that that’s cranked all the way up the lens bottomed out that’s not all the way through. If you let off tension it’s not all the way through the if you let tension on the limbs you don’t get the 315 feet or 300 and whatever you want, you let off the limbs a little bit. It’s only at full tension because I had the same question and that’s what they told me.
@@Brian-R it’s a crossbow video lol …. ya nerd … I’ve killed plenty of deer with my Bow. Killed plenty with my crossbow. Never killed a deer over 30 yards with either …. it’s about scouting, finding , and killing them humanely. Not about what you kill them with
They’re probably very nice? Never tried my super inexpensive Killer Instinct at 100 but at 40 and in I have to shoot at different bullseyes each shot to avoid ruining arrows. And I’ve killed 4 mature bucks with it so far! Bone Collector 380 Walmart clearance $124! I just shoot heavier arrows and broadheads for better performance.
My R500 cost me 4k actually more for the special arrows I needed to shoot and there broad-heads. And the recall happened hope it comes back soon for deer season starts
I like mine, a lot, 2" groups out to 70 yards with custom arrows. Only negatives I have are the noise, Ravins poor center serving, and the safety location. Great video, thanks.
Hey Bones, have you tried shooting broadheads out to that distance? I got my r29X a few weeks ago and I also like it very much, its very accurate...with the field tips that is. I sacrificed one of my ravin brand titanium broad heads and I couldn't achieve the same results. I'm getting at best 2" groups at 40 yards and as a veteran PRC shooter this is driving me nuts. Your thoughts?
I have a Centerpoint and it has been awesome for 400.00 i would take that over a 2400.00 crossbow. I can't think of one drawback or con of my Centerpoint. Don't get me wrong raven great cross bow, but for the money It is a no brainer.
My Ten Point Viper S400 shoots that good or better, easy to cock and uncock, 393 fps through chronograph. Blows thru everything I shoot and less money, great scope, narrow and accurate.
@Hubioo the Viper S400 is very accurate and hard hitting and can be uncocked which is awesome! I had a Wicked Ridge Invader 400, it was a nice crossbow, I liked it but the scope isn't as nice as the Viper and it's a lot wider. But still a good crossbow.
@@SuperDave-pe1zw okay cool, appreciate the reply back, shot a buck the first day of season here and my string snapped as soon as I shot him so been lookin for another one then my Barrett, Ravin look real nice but the arrow and knocks jus suck I’m no fan of, ten point I’m not too sure about all them imma have too look into it
@Hubioo Barnett is know for breaking limbs and strings. Get you a Wicked Ridge Invader 400, you can get one for around $500 and they're a great bow. Lifetime warranty. You can just go up from there.
@@SuperDave-pe1zw yeah the problem with me was I had a killer instinct and the latch to hold the string back busted but I never registered it bc I didn’t know I had too and same with the barret i never registered it but they all have lifetime but don’t cover strings just some stuff, I’m definitely into ten point it was just their pricing, I looked into the rdx 410 but still just lookin, currently moving so not in the biggest rush for a bow now just gonna stand out till next szn
Ya, so..... That is precision, not accuracy. Accuracy would by how far from the center of the aiming point to where the arrow hit. You were measuring group sizes and that is a measurement of consistency regardless of the distance from the aiming point. Kind of important...
@@blacksrfm Bro, what are you talking about? They were not hitting at what they were aiming at, they were hitting near it and then continuing to shoot for group size. That is precision. Accuracy is if they were to be precise and also hit where they were aiming. When the arrows are hitting 6" right and they continue to aim and impact in that area, it is not accurate. This is literally in the first pages of every science lab text book for high school and college, the difference in precision vs accuracy.
@@buckrockerm I agree, but I also agree that if one is going to tout their testing of products they better know the difference. It's a fundamental need for any scientific testing to understand basic like precision and accuracy, statistical analysis, sample size, etc. That's the point of my post.
Yes, the crossbow is insanely accurate, but the price is also insanely high considering it's age and how much plastic they have used to build it. With their new crossbow coming out, the price for this should drop a lot in my opinion. Then it might become a good/great buy. With the price it has now, it is not worth it in my opinion. There are plenty good crossbows that are plenty accurate for most hunting that are much cheaper than this one.
People its hunting fishing ect. Supposed to be fun and have a good time. Hunt with what makes u happy. These xbow should be accurate, big $ small group.like that 1 guy said, shoot a less expensive xbow buy better bolts and it shoots great. All is good. And u save a couple bucks.
You guys must’ve never shot a mission sub 1 XR several hundred dollars cheaper than this crossbow and shoots 1 inch groups at 100 yards not 3 inch groups like this bow your testing
@ I never suggested that you should shoot 100 yards on an animal with a crossbow. You must not have watched the video. I’m referring to the bows accuracy over the bow that’s being tested. The mission is far superior and for less coin.
@@blacksrfm I've shot nothing but dimes for the 4 years I've had my R29. The only complaint I really have with it is that it's kinda boring to own if you're looking for a hobby.... it literally just shoots wherever you aim it, so target practice isn't very much fun after a couple of shots. But, I bought mine to hunt with, and it has been absolutely perfect at dropping every deer that I've aimed it at.
Let me just say who would want to pay $2500 to $3000 dollars for a crossbow not these fake hunting shows were everything is sponsored I'm talking the average real bow hunter I've bow hunted most of my life I don't even know anybody that shoots a ravin I'm sure their are a few my guess very few.
Centerpoint amped 425 shoots great and cost $400. It’s a no brainer
Wow thats a lot of money! That cost more then my crossbow, muzzle loader, both my rifles and my lifetime hunting license all together. I been slaying deer for years just fine!
You know people seem to forget the Ravin crossbow is a really nice crossbow but you're also shooting really high quality bolts out of that crossbow Black Eagle is like one of the best bolts you can buy if you were probably shooting anything else that would affect your accuracy but nobody brings that up nobody gives credit to the Black Eagle company that produces those bolts that shoots so well out of the crossbow
Honestly, the stock arrows that come with Ravin aren’t the greatest they are only used probably because they are the cheapest, and it’s not the arrows that is causing this it is the design of the roller system that is causing this accuracy
I have a Ten Point Titan HLX. It’s 12 years old now. Still drilling deer every year at 304 fps. I’ll never pay $2400 for any crossbow. Old school rule still applies. The faster it shoots the quicker it breaks.
You are right a high dollar crossbow is not for everyone, and of course, if the crossbow is shooting a higher feet per second it can lead to things breaking faster than older slower models because they have more tension on it
@@blacksrfm no, 20+ years ago things were made to last,
now they do things so that as soon as the warranty expires,they tear so you have to buy a new one
everybody is looking at profit.
if once the thickness of the string was 400 used to make it strong and solid, today they use the 1000 string which is thinner (and fits more in the reel, so they earn more, and you get less quality)
Great shooting and nicely done video. I think the biggest reason for the consistent accuracy of these RAVIN crossbows is the "Hiliacoil" technology where the arrow floats off the rail. That said, their R1-10 has a cantilevered scope mount and costs a lot less, The R-26 a newer version has the same fixed scope, firmly attached on both ends and it's not cantilvered! And it's only $1999 or so, a lot less.
If you’re shooting off of a bench and it isn’t level, you’re going to be off. You’ll keep chasing your bolts. Sometimes if you move the scope you have to make sure that the vertical crosshair is perfectly straight so you’re. It leaning to one side or the other, especially at longer ranges. Trial and error over time has lead me to figure it out when using crossbows vs rifles.
300 and whatever you said per second deep per second you gotta remember that that’s cranked all the way up the lens bottomed out that’s not all the way through. If you let off tension it’s not all the way through the if you let tension on the limbs you don’t get the 315 feet or 300 and whatever you want, you let off the limbs a little bit. It’s only at full tension because I had the same question and that’s what they told me.
How did the TenPoint TX 440 shoot for you?
been slaying deer with a $550 barnett ts380’for years now lol
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Hard to beat Barnette,and that's only crossbow I will buy!
Just shot my first buck with a Barnett Wildcat CRX recurve crossbow. $188 at Walmart. Could hit a dime at 40 yards, deadly accurate
@@Brian-R it’s a crossbow video lol …. ya nerd … I’ve killed plenty of deer with my Bow. Killed plenty with my crossbow. Never killed a deer over 30 yards with either …. it’s about scouting, finding , and killing them humanely. Not about what you kill them with
They’re probably very nice? Never tried my super inexpensive Killer Instinct at 100 but at 40 and in I have to shoot at different bullseyes each shot to avoid ruining arrows. And I’ve killed 4 mature bucks with it so far! Bone Collector 380 Walmart clearance $124! I just shoot heavier arrows and broadheads for better performance.
My R500 cost me 4k actually more for the special arrows I needed to shoot and there broad-heads. And the recall happened hope it comes back soon for deer season starts
What broadheads are you using?
@@Deers_with_Wings I’m using what they said I had to use theirs ravin broad-heads the steal version.
I’m surprised you didn’t damage any bolts shooting that ravin, when I bought my r20 model I broke an arrow during the sighting in process
Reminds me off my tac15 which I can't get parts for and sits there with a cracked cam.
Almost 4 grand, I'm out !
I like mine, a lot, 2" groups out to 70 yards with custom arrows. Only negatives I have are the noise, Ravins poor center serving, and the safety location. Great video, thanks.
Hey Bones, have you tried shooting broadheads out to that distance? I got my r29X a few weeks ago and I also like it very much, its very accurate...with the field tips that is. I sacrificed one of my ravin brand titanium broad heads and I couldn't achieve the same results. I'm getting at best 2" groups at 40 yards and as a veteran PRC shooter this is driving me nuts. Your thoughts?
I have a Centerpoint and it has been awesome for 400.00 i would take that over a 2400.00 crossbow. I can't think of one drawback or con of my Centerpoint. Don't get me wrong raven great cross bow, but for the money It is a no brainer.
I’ll put my Scorpyd Aculeus against any xbow on accuracy.
Too expensive, I can buy a rifle for that and put money in my pocket too
My Ten Point Viper S400 shoots that good or better, easy to cock and uncock, 393 fps through chronograph. Blows thru everything I shoot and less money, great scope, narrow and accurate.
I was lookin at those. Now I feet like ten point price is a little overboard for the accuracy and just specs overall, have u had other ten points?
@Hubioo the Viper S400 is very accurate and hard hitting and can be uncocked which is awesome! I had a Wicked Ridge Invader 400, it was a nice crossbow, I liked it but the scope isn't as nice as the Viper and it's a lot wider. But still a good crossbow.
@@SuperDave-pe1zw okay cool, appreciate the reply back, shot a buck the first day of season here and my string snapped as soon as I shot him so been lookin for another one then my Barrett, Ravin look real nice but the arrow and knocks jus suck I’m no fan of, ten point I’m not too sure about all them imma have too look into it
@Hubioo Barnett is know for breaking limbs and strings. Get you a Wicked Ridge Invader 400, you can get one for around $500 and they're a great bow. Lifetime warranty. You can just go up from there.
@@SuperDave-pe1zw yeah the problem with me was I had a killer instinct and the latch to hold the string back busted but I never registered it bc I didn’t know I had too and same with the barret i never registered it but they all have lifetime but don’t cover strings just some stuff, I’m definitely into ten point it was just their pricing, I looked into the rdx 410 but still just lookin, currently moving so not in the biggest rush for a bow now just gonna stand out till next szn
Ya, so..... That is precision, not accuracy. Accuracy would by how far from the center of the aiming point to where the arrow hit. You were measuring group sizes and that is a measurement of consistency regardless of the distance from the aiming point. Kind of important...
Bro, what are you talking about? A three shot group is testing the accuracy they are aiming at the exact same location with each shot.
@@blacksrfm Bro, what are you talking about? They were not hitting at what they were aiming at, they were hitting near it and then continuing to shoot for group size. That is precision. Accuracy is if they were to be precise and also hit where they were aiming. When the arrows are hitting 6" right and they continue to aim and impact in that area, it is not accurate. This is literally in the first pages of every science lab text book for high school and college, the difference in precision vs accuracy.
Precision is what is important. Accuracy only occurs if you have precision 1st.
@@buckrockerm agreed, but that isn't he point of my post.
@@buckrockerm I agree, but I also agree that if one is going to tout their testing of products they better know the difference. It's a fundamental need for any scientific testing to understand basic like precision and accuracy, statistical analysis, sample size, etc. That's the point of my post.
I should a mission 320 can’t shoot the same spot at 30 yards with a hitting arrow that’s deer hunting
Yes, the crossbow is insanely accurate, but the price is also insanely high considering it's age and how much plastic they have used to build it.
With their new crossbow coming out, the price for this should drop a lot in my opinion.
Then it might become a good/great buy.
With the price it has now, it is not worth it in my opinion.
There are plenty good crossbows that are plenty accurate for most hunting that are much cheaper than this one.
Can u suggest a powerful and accurate crossbow form ur knowledge please 🙏
I haven't shot any crossbow that didn't shoot good groups. And i own 7 different brands.
People its hunting fishing ect. Supposed to be fun and have a good time. Hunt with what makes u happy. These xbow should be accurate, big $ small group.like that 1 guy said, shoot a less expensive xbow buy better bolts and it shoots great. All is good. And u save a couple bucks.
Seriously, no way
Swat X1 is a bit more accurate IMO
You guys must’ve never shot a mission sub 1 XR several hundred dollars cheaper than this crossbow and shoots 1 inch groups at 100 yards not 3 inch groups like this bow your testing
@ I never suggested that you should shoot 100 yards on an animal with a crossbow. You must not have watched the video. I’m referring to the bows accuracy over the bow that’s being tested. The mission is far superior and for less coin.
Ravin is garbage. I have a R29X and I’ve had to replace half of it before it even had 50 shots through it. Their customer service is also terrible.
What did you have to replace
Two cocking handles, arrow rest, limbs, and scope.
They replaced the limbs with a different camo than the original and sent me the wrong scope twice.
Ravin definitely isn’t garbage. It is one of the top tier crossbows.
@@blacksrfm I've shot nothing but dimes for the 4 years I've had my R29.
The only complaint I really have with it is that it's kinda boring to own if you're looking for a hobby.... it literally just shoots wherever you aim it, so target practice isn't very much fun after a couple of shots.
But, I bought mine to hunt with, and it has been absolutely perfect at dropping every deer that I've aimed it at.
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Let me just say who would want to pay $2500 to $3000 dollars for a crossbow not these fake hunting shows were everything is sponsored I'm talking the average real bow hunter I've bow hunted most of my life I don't even know anybody that shoots a ravin I'm sure their are a few my guess very few.
The local outdoor store where I live can't keep them in stock...so, there's that....
Ravin are garbage worst crossbow on the market!
They're unanimously by far the best crossbows on the market, but the question is: at what cost?