Makes me warm and fuzzy knowing reference grade analog gear like the Colossus were introduced in 2019! Seems not all modern electronics are crap after all. Thanks for the vid!
My mate would be spewing he sold his EMS Synthi about 10 years ago... 😢, had no idea it is worth double the SH5 I sold around the same time he sold his EMS SYNTHI, I sold my SH5 for $650 Australian1996....got the MS5 now. Great video nostalgia. ✌️ ❤
@@AndyWhitmore I was curious about your video when seeing its title, but honestly, i have no need watching another one talking about these instruments prices
@@AndyWhitmore the Synclavier and Fairlight are also synths (FM/additive and additive, respectively) but would be more suited in a "Top 10 most expensive synths when new" or "Top 10 highest depreciating synths of all time" list. I owned a Synclavier 9600 with VPK and Direct To Disk tower for a few years and going by the price list (when new), it would have cost the original owner $275,000... and that's not including the D2D tower which would probably have been another $100k. I got it for £1200 🙂
@@justinbennitt835 FFS! Thats a loss!! yes - I would have to research it - but maybe these total classics aren't worth that much these days anyway - I know that they would both be a job to maintain & keep working!
There's a Facebook group, where people like to show their studios. There was one guy who had several of the synths shown here, including TWO Yamaha DX1.
Very nice video, but I think you should considerer another one: Fairlight CMI. It is also a wonderful and very expensive synth. Thank you for post (and sorry for my bad English)!
the values are the cost when new in UK - in the 70s, 80s etc - then using the Bank of England inflation calculator - converted from the price in the year bought to today's value - i hope that helps?
Makes the Jupiter-8 (may fave still, I think) seem ‘cheap’ … !! 😜 CS-80, System 55 & GX1 would be my other faves from this list (and I feel obligated to include the DX1, as well). Great video, as always! Thanks muchly, Sir! Happy Solstice Season! ☀️
When you convert the ‘80s price to modern currency value I’m astonished I purchased a new Emu Emax and new 200W TOA synth amplifier with my street courier wages. I must have been crazy.
Officer Barbrady! I call Shenanigans! Single Oberheim SEM modules are over $5K these days. So what's that make an original Oberheim 8-voice?!? Hmmmm?!? Especially with the 16 patch memory programmer?!? 1975-79 Eight Voice: US $7,790 ($10,185 with programmer) Today? Good luck finding one. Haven't seen one for sale in years. People LOVE 'em. Put it in their wills to be buried with them! Ok, ok, that last one might be an urban legend... 😘 Long live Tom Oberheim! (88) We LOVE you, Tom!!!
Should the Roland System 700 have been a contender, even at the lower levels of the top 11? Malcolm Clarke's work with the Synthi 100 on Doctor Who - The Sea Devils had a monumental impact on my 5 year old self in 1972.
it was so difficult deciding how many synths to put in this collection - the Roland 700 goes for about 13k not making it to this list - although - I'd love to own one!
@@AndyWhitmorewrong, for such price you might just have a lab case with a lot of luck Don't expect to have a full system without adding a 0 at your price
Anyone who sold a CS80 prior to 2022 is upset about the bargain they gave away - Equally - anyone (like me) who bought one from 2022 regret not buying them earlier when they were half the price! Thats Life!
yes its a great company & their synths are legendary - however - from my research - their cost did not exceed my number 11 - the Synthi AKS - worth £21k at todays prices - however - I am happy for you to disagree if you can educate me?
@@AndyWhitmore I think value can be broken down to financial cost but sometimes value can be a more emotional in terms of how a synth clicks with the user
No Technos Acxel? No Crumar GDS? Those two also cost a pretty penny (when they were new; and certainly today if one should ever be for sale). The PPG Wave were (and are) also quite expensive.
Just look on the backcover of Moondawn, their you can see that Klaus didn't use a Polyfusion, so you are right in this. I know for sure he even doesn't had such a synth for ever.
Thanks for this - the follow up video will include:- Arp2500 Buchla 100 Buchla Vintage 200 Analogue Solutions Maximus - TC5000 EMS POLYSYNTHI ANALOG ULTRA RARE Oberheim FVS -1 but won't include RSF Poly Kobol Schmidt 8 Voice Analog
So annoyed at myself for having sold my Yamaha CS80 in 2019 for what now appears a bargain £17k! It had Kenton MIDI too.... Alarming more still was that I purchased a Fairlight Series III in 1988, and with the full complement of 2MB cards at £2k a card it was around £38k. My first house cost £56k just 2 years earlier. So today I'm guessing the Fairlight purchase would equate to around £300k in today's money given that house is now worth around £500k.
Todays value - based on all the info available is £12k not meeting this list - re the info you give- I agree - it was the first fm synth from Yamaha - and the forerunner to the DX7 and DX1 - but did not offer the same programming flexibility as the dx1/7- however- I appreciate your input and believe u r an expert in this area!
Only Eu 50.000 for my revered C80. It‘s a disgrace! One does however wonder how easy it is to achieve such prices under the present economic circumstances. Any bidders? 😁
I have really tried to be realistic here - I've spent a lot of time researching - & if this video came out in 2022 - the CS80 would have been valued at nearer 50K & the Jupiter 8 30K plus
@@AndyWhitmore Send him to me. Although it will hurt I am seriously thinking about selling mine. I’ve learned an awfull lot from it but somehow have also always been a bit too much in awe of it to use it in anger regularly. A curious combination of constantly being worried about its electronic health and on the other hand finding it too easy to play all my stuff on an instrument that sounds so good to begin with. What’s the challenge in that? And yes. I am weird. 😁
It is interesting that people are willing to pay that kind of money to get a Yamaha DX1 when you can still get a DX5 which except for the keyboard and some not so useful visual features is the same synth for a fair price.
I completely agree - I wouldn't pay anymore than £1400 for a DX1 - & with the KontrolS 88 & a couple of DX7 plug ins - you have everything & more than the DX1 - thanks for watching!
The whole point of the DX1 is the keybed and poly aftertouch; the playing experience between the DX1 and DX5 is huge. Agree though, would never pay the current $$ for a DX1
At the moment there’s few functional Synthi100s. Of them one owned by Jack Dangers of Meat Beat Manifesto. A simple google search would reveal this. Your list’s omission is regrettable. Please do better research.
Haha, the pronunciation was starting to stick out like a sore thumb...it's wendy carlos, not carlus...klaus (rhymes with mouse) schultz not klaws. And revered rhymes with beard, not bird. But yes, nice video nevertheless...
I'm sorry but there are many mistakes on your video It'd be long to correct everything And, in my opinion, you've forgotten many major instruments First, i believe it's nonsense to put moog 15, moog 55 and Emerson moog in the same list Why not moog 35 ? Moog 3p ? Moog 3c ? Moog 15 was a simple system (like moog 10 or 12), a smaller vwrsion of moog 55 Emerson system was unique, so you can't say 5 were built, or even guess a price about it There were less than 100 gx1 You should have added ps3300, buchla, synclavier, waveframe, system700, oberheim evs, polykobol 2, arp2500, and many more expensive than an aks (vcs3 is usually more expensive) or a jp8 your dx1 price is wrong too Price asked and selling prices are often different It's complicated to treat such a subject, in my opinion...
happy to run my next video past you first - DM me so I can give you a preview. Re the synths you mention - I have dealt with most of the synths in an earlier comment! I'm doing synths - not keyboards.
@@AndyWhitmore what do you mean ? instruments i've mentioned are synths, not keyboards (we agree that a synth with a keyboard is a synth, as Cs80 or Gx1 you've mentioned)
@@Michael_Geyre i was referring to the synclavier (& I have been reminded that the synclavier does have a primitive form of FM synthesis too) - but I agree - the others u mentioned are synths
@AndyWhitmore I understand, synclavier FM should not be overlooked as it's not that primitive at all, it's very different to yamaha's fm approach You can use Sine waves but can generate waveforms by adding harmonics (additive synthesis) and do fm with them You can make evolving fm timbres using different tricks, you can sequence anything including sound programming, and can make sort of wavesequences, chaining many different fm sounds (it can be used to synthesis some samples in Fm) Very powerful and great sounding (much better than the vsti)
you know what - after making this video - I so wish I'd bought a Moog 55 30 years ago when they were at their lowest price! Bad investment? Seems like they've held up brilliantly!
@AndyWhitmore I didnt write down all of them but I noticed that most of the current values dont surpass the equivalent value. I wish I had picked up some 909's though in 1993 😜
Superb content. Keep it coming.
👍😀
thanks for the encouragement - got more to come! - every Saturday morning!
Fairly sure field desk was no13 on the list
Great rating and demos!
Thanks!! Glad you enjoyed!
Great presentation and interesting breakdown, thankyou
Fantastic- I’m glad u like
Makes me warm and fuzzy knowing reference grade analog gear like the Colossus were introduced in 2019! Seems not all modern electronics are crap after all. Thanks for the vid!
1999 era Prince was Oberheim OB-X and OB-Xa. It's in all the videos and live footage too. Jupe came later.
really?
all classics! Love your channel ❤❤
Thanks so much 😊
@AndyWhitmore you're welcome and my pleasure ❤️😊
Thanks for the evolution of tech and the possibilities of today affordable sinths.
Absolutely! The evolution of technology has made so many incredible synths accessible to everyone. It's exciting to see what musicians can create now!
nice ! : )
Thanks for the visit
Nice job very interesting.
Thanks - we try!!
My mate would be spewing he sold his EMS Synthi about 10 years ago... 😢, had no idea it is worth double the SH5 I sold around the same time he sold his EMS SYNTHI, I sold my SH5 for $650 Australian1996....got the MS5 now.
Great video nostalgia.
✌️ ❤
yes the synthi keeps going up. - the Behringer MS-5 is an excellent clone
Where is the Fairlight CMI?
this video is about synths - digital & analog only
Aussie, Aussie, Aussie!!! 🦘🐨
Fairlight is a digital synth featuring analog filters (for older models)@AndyWhitmore
@@Michael_Geyre i get that - TBH - I have enough material from these comments for another video - watch this space
@@AndyWhitmore I was curious about your video when seeing its title, but honestly, i have no need watching another one talking about these instruments prices
I noticed the SynClavier, the fair light and the Kerzwiel K 250 didn’t make the list, but this was very interesting.
This is Synths - they will appear in my Keyboard top 11
@@AndyWhitmore the Synclavier and Fairlight are also synths (FM/additive and additive, respectively) but would be more suited in a "Top 10 most expensive synths when new" or "Top 10 highest depreciating synths of all time" list.
I owned a Synclavier 9600 with VPK and Direct To Disk tower for a few years and going by the price list (when new), it would have cost the original owner $275,000... and that's not including the D2D tower which would probably have been another $100k. I got it for £1200 🙂
@@justinbennitt835 FFS! Thats a loss!! yes - I would have to research it - but maybe these total classics aren't worth that much these days anyway - I know that they would both be a job to maintain & keep working!
On the run was done on the EMS Synthi AKS. There is footage of Roger waters in the studio during that time working the song out on the AMS synthi AKS
There's a Facebook group, where people like to show their studios. There was one guy who had several of the synths shown here, including TWO Yamaha DX1.
wow! do send me a link - I'd like to share this video - ruclips.net/video/mS-1Cbu4Yk4/видео.html
Very nice video, but I think you should considerer another one: Fairlight CMI. It is also a wonderful and very expensive synth.
Thank you for post (and sorry for my bad English)!
The Korg PS3300 would be another notable mention.
this would have been 12 or lower at £10.5k
I'm amazed at the low number of units of all these synths - even the Colossus (I know at least one owner of 1/25).
yes - especially the Moog at number 2!!
Hi! Where does equivalent value come from?
the values are the cost when new in UK - in the 70s, 80s etc - then using the Bank of England inflation calculator - converted from the price in the year bought to today's value - i hope that helps?
@@AndyWhitmore thank you 🙂
Makes the Jupiter-8 (may fave still, I think) seem ‘cheap’ … !! 😜
CS-80, System 55 & GX1 would be my other faves from this list (and I feel obligated to include the DX1, as well).
Great video, as always! Thanks muchly, Sir! Happy Solstice Season! ☀️
Thanks for that- me? I’m mystified by the dx1 value! Before I heard of their value- I valued it at £1400! 2 x the DX7 value! lol!😜
The most expensive synth in the world, is always the next one I want to buy, according to my wife.
I'm banned from buying synths for the moment!!! by the wife LOL!
When you convert the ‘80s price to modern currency value I’m astonished I purchased a new Emu Emax and new 200W TOA synth amplifier with my street courier wages. I must have been crazy.
I know - it took me 18 months to pay for my MiniMoog - 2nd hand at £690! I worked in a Bank & was 17 years old.
I had an EMU Emax - great reliable sampler
Where is Analogue Solutions Maximus, TC5000, ...?
i missed that one - i'll do an update later
Officer Barbrady! I call Shenanigans!
Single Oberheim SEM modules are over $5K these days.
So what's that make an original Oberheim 8-voice?!? Hmmmm?!?
Especially with the 16 patch memory programmer?!?
1975-79
Eight Voice: US $7,790
($10,185 with programmer)
Today? Good luck finding one. Haven't seen one for sale in years. People LOVE 'em.
Put it in their wills to be buried with them!
Ok, ok, that last one might be an urban legend...
😘
Long live Tom Oberheim! (88)
We LOVE you, Tom!!!
Should the Roland System 700 have been a contender, even at the lower levels of the top 11?
Malcolm Clarke's work with the Synthi 100 on Doctor Who - The Sea Devils had a monumental impact on my 5 year old self in 1972.
it was so difficult deciding how many synths to put in this collection - the Roland 700 goes for about 13k not making it to this list - although - I'd love to own one!
@@AndyWhitmorewrong, for such price you might just have a lab case with a lot of luck
Don't expect to have a full system without adding a 0 at your price
@@Michael_Geyre noted - I'll research it more & get it in the follow up video
Also worth mentioning that rumour has it a more modern owner of the GX1 is Richard D. James of Aphex Twin/The Tuss fame.
worth a mention indeed!!!
What about the Fairlight CMI? It's more than just a sampler
I bought a Schmidt synth one year ago. My dad also had a CS 80 in the eighties...Sadly sold in the nineties...
Anyone who sold a CS80 prior to 2022 is upset about the bargain they gave away - Equally - anyone (like me) who bought one from 2022 regret not buying them earlier when they were half the price! Thats Life!
Magnum Opus uses many of them , just listen to Magnum Opus Panspermia
will do!
What about the Schmidt eight voices synthesizer ? (22, 000 €)
yes - its been noted in earlier comments!!
Where’s teenage engineering?
yes its a great company & their synths are legendary - however - from my research - their cost did not exceed my number 11 - the Synthi AKS - worth £21k at todays prices - however - I am happy for you to disagree if you can educate me?
@@AndyWhitmoreIt's a joke, since TE products are known for being (too) expensive for what they are. 😅
Give me an example of a synth and its value
@AndyWhitmore you have to weigh them and work out price per gram
@@AndyWhitmore I think value can be broken down to financial cost but sometimes value can be a more emotional in terms of how a synth clicks with the user
Very cool historical view of these synths. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it!
No Technos Acxel? No Crumar GDS? Those two also cost a pretty penny (when they were new; and certainly today if one should ever be for sale).
The PPG Wave were (and are) also quite expensive.
good comment - they weren't on my radar!
No Synclavier, Fairlight CMI
this is just synths - no samplers, pianos etc
@@AndyWhitmore. 🙀😉
@ Synclavier is PM synth ( wrongly named FM before the DX1 ) 👍
@@ArgumentShow didn't want to say - but I have a keyboard video coming soon - & the 2 samplers are on the list!
@ like your videos, memory lane lol
You forgot Soviet army synthesizer Gorky V1. Costing more than 5 hypersonic jets. Two were built.
i dont know anything about this synth!
Where is the Schmidt 8-Voice Polyphonic Analog?
I agree - at £22k - it should’ve been on the list! Thanks for pointing out
Schmidt Synthesizer (last known price for a new unit in 2016): €19,000.
yes - its been noted in earlier comments!!
Moondawn from Schulze is not from Polyfusion but from a moog IIIP modular
I’ll take your word for it- I try to go to reliable sources for my info
Just look on the backcover of Moondawn, their you can see that Klaus didn't use a Polyfusion, so you are right in this. I know for sure he even doesn't had such a synth for ever.
you sound like you sell carpets for a living
doesn't sound like a compliment!!
@@AndyWhitmore just banter....the synth video is great! ♥🙂
For a part 2 video: ARP 2500, Buchla 100 and vintage 200 (not the later 200e), RSF Poly Kobol.
Thanks for this - the follow up video will include:-
Arp2500
Buchla 100
Buchla Vintage 200
Analogue Solutions Maximus - TC5000
EMS POLYSYNTHI ANALOG ULTRA RARE
Oberheim FVS -1
but won't include
RSF Poly Kobol
Schmidt 8 Voice Analog
@@AndyWhitmoreput oberheim Evs instead of Fvs
@@Michael_Geyre noted - OK - well I will get some feedback on the community page before the next release
@@AndyWhitmore I was going to add the Schmidt 8. Did you already complete the video before the Schmidt came to mind?
@@AndyWhitmore The Knifonium would also be a candidate.
I've got a mint 1970s Roland SH-5. Any idea what that is worth?
about £3800
I would have thought an original korg ps-3300 would be right up there in value?🤔
So annoyed at myself for having sold my Yamaha CS80 in 2019 for what now appears a bargain £17k! It had Kenton MIDI too.... Alarming more still was that I purchased a Fairlight Series III in 1988, and with the full complement of 2MB cards at £2k a card it was around £38k. My first house cost £56k just 2 years earlier. So today I'm guessing the Fairlight purchase would equate to around £300k in today's money given that house is now worth around £500k.
Blimey - thats some serious cheddar!
Are you The Stig?! 🏎
@@kierenmoore3236 no - I've spent Xmas with my 11 year old!! lol
The Yamaha GS1 was the flagship fm synth , 90 kilo's and 12.000 Ukp in 1981 , not the 8000 Dx1
Todays value - based on all the info available is £12k not meeting this list - re the info you give- I agree - it was the first fm synth from Yamaha - and the forerunner to the DX7 and DX1 - but did not offer the same programming flexibility as the dx1/7- however- I appreciate your input and believe u r an expert in this area!
You mean the Yamaha CS80 and not the GS1, and it's weight is a 100 kilo's.
Only Eu 50.000 for my revered C80. It‘s a disgrace! One does however wonder how easy it is to achieve such prices under the present economic circumstances. Any bidders? 😁
I have really tried to be realistic here - I've spent a lot of time researching - & if this video came out in 2022 - the CS80 would have been valued at nearer 50K & the Jupiter 8 30K plus
A mate of mine recently turned down 40K for his CS80
@@AndyWhitmore Send him to me. Although it will hurt I am seriously thinking about selling mine. I’ve learned an awfull lot from it but somehow have also always been a bit too much in awe of it to use it in anger regularly. A curious combination of constantly being worried about its electronic health and on the other hand finding it too easy to play all my stuff on an instrument that sounds so good to begin with. What’s the challenge in that? And yes. I am weird. 😁
@@AndyWhitmore. Pandemic Prices … ?
@@kierenmoore3236 current prices
It is interesting that people are willing to pay that kind of money to get a Yamaha DX1 when you can still get a DX5 which except for the keyboard and some not so useful visual features is the same synth for a fair price.
I completely agree - I wouldn't pay anymore than £1400 for a DX1 - & with the KontrolS 88 & a couple of DX7 plug ins - you have everything & more than the DX1 - thanks for watching!
The whole point of the DX1 is the keybed and poly aftertouch; the playing experience between the DX1 and DX5 is huge. Agree though, would never pay the current $$ for a DX1
Oberheim Eight Voice missing and OB-X
the OB-X would not make the top 11 - the Oberheim 8 voice - possibly if maxed out!
It’s just a Synthi AKS on ‘On The Run’, not a massive Synthi 100…
you know - thats what I thought - I did the research but sometimes its not reliable!
At the moment there’s few functional Synthi100s. Of them one owned by Jack Dangers of Meat Beat Manifesto. A simple google search would reveal this. Your list’s omission is regrettable. Please do better research.
all noted thanks
Where's the polykobol ? 13:46
at £8k - the polykobol didn't make this list
Bro use Behringer!!!!
Those high ranking synth’s are way too high to purchasing it 😅
I own a prophet 6, cost me some bloody ribs of my body 😂
you bought a Prophet 6? - you should have bought a Behringer!! lol - thanks for watching
It 's David BOWIE with the O of O la la la! It's not David BAWIE! Nice video!
Message received!!
Haha, the pronunciation was starting to stick out like a sore thumb...it's wendy carlos, not carlus...klaus (rhymes with mouse) schultz not klaws. And revered rhymes with beard, not bird. But yes, nice video nevertheless...
omg - i've booked my elocution lessons!
Hmmm... are you sure about that? I seem to recall it was the other way around. But I'm open to contradiction.
@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx Funny you should say that - my wife is the biggest Bowie fan & pronounces it "AW" although she admits it should be "O"
The synth on 1999 was an oberheim
thanks for the info!
And I would not buy any of them even if I had the money.
I’d rather have the VST versions. Great video, though!
There are ab few synths on the list i'd be - if someone gave me the money!
I love the convenience of VSTs - they're so quick - no leads & they work!
I'm sorry but there are many mistakes on your video
It'd be long to correct everything
And, in my opinion, you've forgotten many major instruments
First, i believe it's nonsense to put moog 15, moog 55 and Emerson moog in the same list
Why not moog 35 ? Moog 3p ? Moog 3c ?
Moog 15 was a simple system (like moog 10 or 12), a smaller vwrsion of moog 55
Emerson system was unique, so you can't say 5 were built, or even guess a price about it
There were less than 100 gx1
You should have added ps3300, buchla, synclavier, waveframe, system700, oberheim evs, polykobol 2, arp2500, and many more expensive than an aks (vcs3 is usually more expensive) or a jp8
your dx1 price is wrong too
Price asked and selling prices are often different
It's complicated to treat such a subject, in my opinion...
happy to run my next video past you first - DM me so I can give you a preview. Re the synths you mention - I have dealt with most of the synths in an earlier comment! I'm doing synths - not keyboards.
@@AndyWhitmore what do you mean ?
instruments i've mentioned are synths, not keyboards (we agree that a synth with a keyboard is a synth, as Cs80 or Gx1 you've mentioned)
@@Michael_Geyre i was referring to the synclavier (& I have been reminded that the synclavier does have a primitive form of FM synthesis too) - but I agree - the others u mentioned are synths
You should create you’re own video and link it here. Not being snarky, I’d love a watch! Look forward to it. Cheers
@AndyWhitmore I understand, synclavier FM should not be overlooked as it's not that primitive at all, it's very different to yamaha's fm approach
You can use Sine waves but can generate waveforms by adding harmonics (additive synthesis) and do fm with them
You can make evolving fm timbres using different tricks, you can sequence anything including sound programming, and can make sort of wavesequences, chaining many different fm sounds (it can be used to synthesis some samples in Fm)
Very powerful and great sounding (much better than the vsti)
Most of them are bad investments though 😂
you know what - after making this video - I so wish I'd bought a Moog 55 30 years ago when they were at their lowest price! Bad investment? Seems like they've held up brilliantly!
@AndyWhitmore I didnt write down all of them but I noticed that most of the current values dont surpass the equivalent value. I wish I had picked up some 909's though in 1993 😜
Stop shouting.
OMG - am I being annoying? - I'll tone it down for the next ones!
@ Great video, just use some finesse on the VO :-)