AW16 Jonestown Survivor: Laura Johnston Kohl
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- Опубликовано: 27 мар 2018
- Interview with a survivor of the Jonestown Massacre. Laura was a member of Jim Jones' People's Temple cult in Guyana.
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Laura died on 19 November 2019 after a long battle with cancer. She was 72.
I hope she lived a happy life after what happened. RIP❤️
That is so sad. Poor dear, RIP.
Thats sad also a day after the tragedies anniversary 😞😭
That made me sad to hear. She seems to be a very special and open lady :(
Hmm so her and Vernon Gosney are gone.
The most honest and oblivious interview I've ever
watched with a survivor
It's very clear to me why she was a follower of Jones. She has learned nothing.
Agreed she wood have been back in jonestown tommorow if she'd had the chanc
She died a day after the 41st anniversary in 2019. She spoke at the gathering in Oakland on the 40th anniversary and said she had been a fool. She said she stopped thinking critically.
Agreed 100 percent.
When she applied for a teaching license, they determined she was a fit and proper person?
I think she was youngish ...but I agree...8 years or more ...f that
She wood be back in jonestown tomorrow if she had the chance
Lmao true
Why on earth did she go and visit Larry Layton in prison? Shooting two innocent people point-blank makes him a bit of an arsehole in my book.
Trying to be kind. I agree that Layton was a fool.
She probably forgave him. Not for him but for herself. It’s part of the healing process. We have no idea what kind of conversation they had. Layton is definitely an asshole and I think he should of got life instead of 18 yrs. Even though he was under control of Jim, he still could of made a different decision on that air strip.
Larry Layton was also brainwashed though. Sadly I’m sure there are many other members at the time , who would have also killed if Jim Jones had asked them to. He still deserved to go to jail, and he might still be a bad person aside from everything, but I can see why she may have visited him after what they all went through
She’s still brainwashed.
Potty mate in fact I think thay all was apart from the kids
Laura thank you for your insight of Jonestown and its people. RIP with all of your beloved friends🥀
I find it very odd that she didn't think it was a big deal that Jim pointed a gun at her just for nodding off on a road trip. Whether she thought he would actually shoot or not, that is wrong and totally disrespectful. If he pointed a gun at me, joking or not, I'm done with him.
That's true. That was just one of many red flags that should have caused most of them to leave. I guess that there were quite a few that did leave (when they were in California) but they were stalked and harassed/threatened. The ones who went to Jonestown were supposedly the most hard core believers. Brainwashed. then isolated, which was the most dangerous situation. I wonder if Jones had this whole thing planned out for many years?
Lol your lack of understanding brainwashing and the control another human can have over another is astonishing.. you just think..”wow, crazy people! I’d never do that” bahaha what a dick
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Well, they were crazy...
Yes I agree I think alot of these people who went to is church were potty same about the kids how about that fake suicide thay did and the parents watching there kids being slapped about and thay thank him after that very odd
Yea even her justifying it today seems like she still has not completely deprogrammed. That is a huge red flag and she does not even seem to tie it to him killing everyone in the end.
what a lovely honest lady..surviving evil this bad didnt break her..God bless❤
Have you studid this case by enny chance
If Jones was a narcissist before Jones Town, he was already a potentially dangerous man.
Thank you for this very interesting interview.
It was great wasn't it.
She seems like a beautiful soul. May she rest in peace. I'm heartbroken to hear she is no longer alive. The world needs more spirits like her.
ahh, that's so nice of you to say that.
What a pleasant and beautiful woman. I went to the People's Temple twice, in Indianapolis, when a teen. I completely believed in integration, and loved the two times that I went to his services. Given, that I eventually ended up living in a yoga ashram, and had a guru, who later, I learned, was anything I thought he was, I could have very well, ending up, following him out to California. I wanted to go to undergrad, but given my spiritual propensity, then and now, there's no question that I was drawn to Jones, and thought the services were electrifying.
Well it's a good thing your life choices went the way they did or u would of ended up in Guyana...
I think she was basically a hippie, embracing free love, unconventional religion, living off the land, rejecting normalcy.
How did that work for her or the others?
Agreed. She gives “living off the land” a bad name.
Only thing is, that title can be misleading, "Jonestown Survivor?" This gives the impression of someone who lived in J-town and fled into the jungle and hiked to freedom. Versus, someone in Georgetown as an operative in a house with plumbing, in relative civilization.
Very compassionate interview 🥰🥰🥰 rest in peace Laura.
Steven, Jim's own 19 year old son became disenchanted with his own fathers message and stopped the suicide massacre from happening in the US. Never knew that. When even your own son sees you going down a dark road in life and says enough is enough, that says a lot.
Stephan was a bully in Jonestown, just like his father. There are tapes and transcripts that prove this. He terrorized Kay Rosas and put a snake on her and mocked her with his father, he severely beat at least one young man on tape, and Edith Roller's journals reported that Stephan terrified crying little children with a snake. This is just some of the stuff that I've read, and I'm sure there's more. He's nowhere near as innocent or decent as he tries to portray he is.
You’re lying. Steven took part in the beatings of the members. He just as terrible as his father.
Steve Jones is a shady individual. He doesn't speak about how him and his basketball team were stalking the Concerned Relatives Group in Georgetown at there hotel. He took part in his father's berating of Individual. He's a good speaker like his father.
@@maximumpayne575 you have to remember he was born into this cult. He never claims to be perfect. He even admits to taking part in the beatings of members during his 40th anniversary speech. There is no such thing as the “perfect victim” when it comes to this tragedy.
@@maximumpayne575 Absolutely
I’m sorry but I don’t feel sympathy for this woman. It’s very clear that this woman enjoyed much of her time with both cults.
She talks about the Black Panthers and somebody getting shot in her apartment like it was not a big deal. This woman has no conscious. She has a cold heart.
Typical, psycho, liberal, anti American,communist. Mindless, heartless, soulless.
LindyTN Liberals that’s the problem..
I feel so sorry for all of you who commented that youve cleary done no research into the sexual and ohysical avyse this man and his inner circle commited. Split families stole peoples children in the dead if night and fly them to GAYANA walk in someones elses shoes i agree people should have tried to act but imagine youre entire family being seperated and the government doing nothing. Jim jones was heavily involved in politics made appearneces at MANY senators and presidential rallies he had a ton of support until the end...... shame on you do your research
Jillian Wildman to whom are you speaking?
And yes, Jones had a ton of support, from leftist politicians who loved his adoration of and desire to promote communism and wrote glowing letters about him to their buddy Fidel Castro, or who covered up his indiscretions for him, or appointed him to city government positions. Jane Fonda was a big fan of his, too. All of which underlined the point the OP and comments are making.
ETA:
Oh, and he didn't have support just UNTIL the end. Harvey Milk refused to condemn him even after the massacre!
And people did try to act, but Jone's lefty pals swept their complaints under the rug, because who cares about human rights abuses when you have an ideology to push? Some members of government did try to do something, but without evidence there wasn't much they *could* do.
I'm sorry, I just don't understand what "research" any of the other commenters could do or could have done that would change what they're saying. Seems to me the more research you do the more their points are proven.
She still sounds a bit brainwashed.
She does..... More than most.......and quite the joiner..... Cult member extraordinaire!
What trump supporters sound like 😂
@@ownSystem I knew her and she definitely wasn't a Trump supporter or conservative.
I was always sort of alarmed by the fact that LJK kept getting drawn back into cults, even *after* going through Jonestown.
She says, "We live in a Cult Society". She clearly lived in a cult society herself, even if many of us don't.
She was hachuly potty the same as most of the others apart from the children
That's the way it is. I was brought up catholic and I ended up in quite a few cults but no more.
But she became a school teacher in the end so.......
She said she is a teacher. To be a teacher, you must be of good character? How can the FBI have files describing Laura as "sadistic" and that not prevent her from holding a teaching license?
She feels most comfortable in cults (Which is so sad)! I hope she finds peace in her life and that God may have mercy on her soul.
She should be in prison.
such an important & enlightening interview,.👍🏼🙏🏾.it really cleared up all my open questions about this complex & globally relevant case..so all the allegations about JJ ( homosexual misconduct etc..) were true..the analogy of the battered wife is spot on ,plus a HUGE dose of mass Stockholm Syndrome...this interview has really finally brought clarity & some closure. so up front & honest..well done Mme..you lived a signifikant life..RIP🙏🏾🔥
Homosexual misconduct?
the misconduct is the lack of consent.
@@blerblybliggots9801 You can't "consent" to homosexual acts in Guyana as the whole perversion is illegal in that country and no church allows homosexual behaviour, not even peoples temple.
@@iainlee4274 I don't think you understand what consent is.
Do you believe the government owns your body?
@@iainlee4274 Jim Jones raped people. That was the issue with consent. this isn't hard
Rest in peace Laura❤️
36:50 everthing was spectacular No just show U lady that u were "brain washed" hello and everthing J J did and thought was perfect with u. that place in the jungle wasnt even good for agriculture hello
I read Laura's book. While interesting it kind of reminds me of the movie "Forrest Gump". She believes that she understood what was going on, without really fully grasping it, and that she was going to change the world. Very few of us change the world, we're more likely to be a Rock Star, Sports Star, or something along those lines, than someone who will change the world.
The Public Service Crew were second class citizens. They were abused by their minders. Jones used them as a threat and punishment for 'dissension'. She must have been one of the nice minders. Some of them beat "slackers".
She was certainly bright. Unfortunately she seemed conceited too. I hope that she found whatever peace she was seeking.
Bright = white
Kudos Laura. Very introspective...always the teacher.
Good interview
I cannot grasp the idea of someone making me believe that he was God, also that it o.k. to have sex with the pastor, how , how can someone allow themselves to be drawn into such madness. Also anyone , anyone , that could persuade me to poison my child, seems to be a large, very large group of people lack seriously good old common sense , they allowed themselves to be brainwashed , hence the tradgedly of all time before and after, to take place.sadness never known before and hopefully never again, I am now lost for words ,lost even to think about this event.
Half of ghe mothers were held down while people injected their children and then they wanted ro die because they didnt have the will to live read a book its called abuse and brainwashing ever psychologist in the WORLD has said that about jonestown and half of those women were RAPED people have testified to this do your research
a lot of the congregation were sucked in by the glowing reports of the media that The People's Temple was some sort of wonderland of love and equality, and the leftist politicians who covered up their problems and appointed Jones to government positions/acted like he was some kind of hero. These were poor people looking for a church that loved and accepted them, and thanks to all that lovely publicity they decided to try the PT...and got sucked in from there. In the beginning Jones hid his Marxist ideology, and when he started to slip it in he did it very slowly and carefully. he didn't reveal his true beliefs and goal until it was too late for a lot of these people to escape--and he was, again, aided and abetted by a fawning leftist media who did NO due diligence or fact-checking (just like today) and the politicians who kissed his butt because they knew his true ideology and supported it.
It's a lot harder to make excuses for the higher-ups in the "church," his inner circle...but a lot of the congregants were lured in and by the time they realized what was happening they couldn't escape. Remember, a lot of them had left their homes to live in housing paid for by the PT, getting money monthly from the PT, because they'd signed over everything they owned and their Social Security and everything thinking this was a genuine church of God. They didn't learn it was always a church of Marx, never a church of God, until it was too late.
@@jillianwildman3511 lol
@@dqverify6797 Thanks for sharing. I live in Guyana. We did not even know of JT!😦
I think the term “brainwashed” is a meaningless catch-all phrase. You could call anyone “brainwashed”. It’s a stupid word. The Republicans are brainwashed. The Mormons are brainwashed, etc. Every historian who has even taken a cursory look at Jonestown will say what happened there was mass murder, not suicide. The survivors never call it a “suicide” but instead a murder, because indeed that’s what it was. 1/3 of the population were children. Children don’t commit suicide. They were just murdered. 1/3 of the population were seniors. Seniors do not commit suicide. They were murdered. And most of the adults were forcefully injected. That’s murder. There could have been a few adults who willing took the poison, but they were probably in a small minority, under 5%. If anyone resisted the killings, they were just simply shot by the guards. To call this brainwashing is to misunderstand the history in it’s entirety.
I couldn't finish this. This is lady is so confused. An still couldn't answer much of anything cause he was JIM. I'm so sorry. I do remember this it was all over the news. Sad then still sad now.pray for all cause this was cruel.
people who comment but dont finish a video are just ignorant & annoying😠
@@gigiarmany4332 EXACTLY! Someone commented“I believe she just likes to hear herself talk but how did she escape?” 🙄
She was invited to be interviewed for her book but yeah...she likes to hear herself talk.
I think you maybe the one confused. Such a quick judgment for someone who couldn’t even finish the whole video this is why you got confused. The lady wasn’t confused at all to even write a book about it. This lady was answering everything the interviewer was asking and then some. She gave us more in-depth information on how the peoples temple worked etc.
I just don’t understand why women need to have the danger element present in a man
Have you seen the 'The Guyana Tragedy-the women look ridiculous! Literally laying it out full spread eagle in jim jones' face
I think you mean 'some' women. I know none of them. I don't understand why 'some' men feel they have to beat their chests and fling their danger element around like a big dick or even how you came to believe that women in general actually think this is an appealing quality...it isn't. Danger Element dick swinger: fling, fling Me: sidle away, sidle away
It's the misdirected desire of feeling like he will be able to protect you. But also if you did not grow up in a stable household you will more likely be attracted to the wrong people.
Misery loves Co.
maybe her adopted Indian son was pulled over so often cause he drives faster than mom.
Don't be fooled with the survivers iv studid this case alot these folk were as potty as Jim jones himself poor kids
She seemed lost and constantly searching for a home. Rip.
Something seems off.
Yes, and the something is that she's a brainwashed nut.
She seems a good hearted lost soul. And sort of a dimwit
Sad. Lost soul. I mean how she thought Jim was great I will never understand. She needs to wake up and realize mass murder happened on 11/18/1978..does she think it's okay that Jim murdered all her friends? Very sad
I mean.... did you watch an of the interview? Like at all? She has already been “woken up” well before her passing.
@@vintageragdoll1991 I am not sure she really woke up. She seemed to have enjoyed her experience in the cult and the cult that she joined right after. She still rationalizes a lot.
It seems she didn’t learn the most important lesson from her experience. Socialism doesn’t work in the real world. It sounds nice, but in practice it always leads to misery.
She is still a cultist by the sounds of it. She thinks Jim Jones had good intentions and only massacred all those people because of 'drugs and alcohol'
I agree
I think people that go hunting for alternative lifestyles are just afraid of being bored with living a normal life. The common theme with most of these people who join communes or cults came from dysfunctional homes, have low self-esteem and are looking for acceptance. They also act like what they are doing is so unique and superior to people who live traditional lives. They end up doing nothing that is really that out of the ordinary.
In the case of The People's Temple, they were a group of people living in a community doing ordinary things. Working in fields, building homes, going to school, etc. The only thing that was different was that it was integrated. Big deal. When I hear survivors speak, they act like the idea of their community was sooo out of this world. It might have been not the norm but it isnt like they were inventing or creating anything awe-inspiring. Schools were already integrated around that time. Let's just get a bunch of black and white people together in a room. Wow that's revolutionary (sarcasm)
Well the members have said they had addiction programs, and provided scholarships to young adults in the temple to go to college if they could not afford it, they pressured restaurants into serving black people and then gave them business to encourage other restaurants to do the same. They were successful in this endeavor to foster integration. At the time when churches were segregated their church having blacks and whites together was something special. There is more that they did but I cant think of it off the top of my head. Obviously I am not praising this cult because he was stealing money to do all these great things but I am just saying there was something that was appealing and different about this group at first.
@@suras8984 true JJ did a lot, for people, but I think that he knew who to target and did those kind things to get their loyalty. I don't think that he was ever sincere and I also think that it was he was a racist!
@@msrain1235 I don't think so either. I was just pointing out why it was appealing to people at the time.
@@msrain1235 he put black people back into the jungle and enslaved them. The irony
She passed on November 19, RIP
Oh, wow
Finally!
@@rjmullinz2258 you're a dickhead.
Yes. RIP to a great woman.
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RIP a great woman
Montgomery County is SOUTH of the Mason Dixon line. Most of the kids you went to school with were transplants, not native to the area. The lady is making up a story to fix her narrative. If she had not fallen with Jones, Charles Manson would have recruited her.
Regardless of where the Mason-Dixon Line is, Maryland is not a southern state. It’s part of the mid-Atlantic.
@@jerseytomato100 thy despot’s heel is on thy shore. Maryland my Maryland. Before the lyrics were changed.
all the results from her belief about the world, which always leads to horrible consequences.. and she just doesn't see it. Insanity: doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
There is a lot of conflict in the comments here and I can kind of see why. After a bit of time trying to figure out a bit more about the bigger picture of Jonestown and 'verify' some facts I believe ANYONE coming out of this needs to be very clear that all of this, even the early seemingly harmless stages of PT needs to be condemned. Anything short of this and I cannot blame people for criticising. I feel Laura sounded too sympathetic to the cause but wish her peace in death. I feel the same applies to Tim Carter, Charles Garry, Mark Lane, Richard Dwyer, Most of the Laytons/Blakies.
12 hours far away from anywhere.
I love this lady she’s so sweet. I give her so much credit for telling her story!
Kristin have you studid this case by enny chance
The FBI has a file in which said she is "sadistic".
Wow such an interesting woman. Thank you for this.
I feel no particular animosity towards this sad lady. I just see her as the almost perfect embodiment of the reckless, rootless, unmoored social insanity inflicted on this country by the Boomer generation.
So in your opinion. what the Boomer generation was reacting against (Jim Crow Laws, Lynchings that went unpunished, women kept out of important business or political or academic positions, McCarthyism, and so on) were all really cool things? Sure, there were a lot of great things about the '40s and '50s, but there was a lot of rot there, too.
@@codex3048 But all of that rot could have been cut out without the rest of the nonsense and societal destruction the Boomers unleashed.
Jim Jones was no Baby Boomer, James.
She has a sense of detachment that is frightening. Please don't blame the Boomers.... they were a product of their age as much as their successors. A lot of them are spoiled brats because they were the children of war veterans and Depression survivors. The depression conditioned many to very tight spending. The post war boom allowed parents to indulge their children far more than they themselves were indulged. Spoiled brats grow up into the world, run into the Jim Jones. The rest follows.
Jamal Labarge Thats an overgeneralization. The generations that came after the boomer are by FAR the most spoiled brats out there, the least educated, and most clueless people this county has ever produced. They lived privileged lives on social media. What an accomplishment.
My heart goes out to this woman when I heard her say I used to believe in a heaven now I can't how horrible to take the True God of the bible and twist it like jones did to control people :( jones is in hell for what he did to those poor people that trusted in him
Jones didn't twist the Bible; he never believed in it. He just used religion as a way to push Marxism. Once his congregation reached the size he wanted, that's when he started denigrating the bible and religion.
She never believe in heaven. She said that plenty of times before joining Peoples Temple. She knew Jim Jones wasn’t really about following God/Jesus. She didn’t believe in religion. So why was she there? What drew her to something she didn’t believe in. She was also running with the Black Panthers.
I believe she loves to hear herself talk. How did she escape?
Loves to hear herself talk? She was talking about her book and was invited by the lady interviewing her.... IF you actually listened to WHAT she was talking about, you would find out how she escaped Jonestown fate.🙄🙄🙄
Quick to comment on someone else without checking yourself first.
Dumb comment 😂
Great interview with a great woman
She became a teacher and Vern Gosney became a police officer. How? I can only imagine they lied on their applications and they never bothered to check.
Thank you for caring about equality for All of us here in America 💯💜👌🙏
She is a great hearted woman and she got sucked into Jim Jones because of her weaknesses and also the things that mattered to her was what Jim Jones was saying mattered to Him..
Thank you for standing up for protesting for giving your life to try to Help Other's lives.
Narcissists will all be judged by God in the end.
It sounds like to me that she was a person who was adrift and looking for something or someone to support her and give her someplace to go and something to do in the field of liberal activism every day. Since she wasn't looking for a religion, and Jim Jones wasn't really, below the surface, offering religious truth anyway, Jim Jones' organization offered her the material support and activities to fill her days that she was seeking. All she had to do was keep her head down, keep a low profile, and do as she was told, and she could coast along for a long time.
WOW The dirty bastard would pet his dogs but he murdered over 900 people. I bet he took the dish's out of the sink before he pissed in it.
He trusted her, if she wasn't in the inner circle, because she was "nice", in its original meaning, foolish
She found the smell of Woodstock distasteful but is ok with the stench of Jonestown. Really into this womans past, she was a horrible, cruel person that has lied her way through life
you're a dick. fuck you
This woman wasn’t even at Jonestown when the murders occurred. It would be nice if people would actually listen to the entirety of interviews they comment on.
ever consider that YOU are the horrible ,cruel person, since thats what you are projecting onto this discussion?? If you point a finger, three point back at you..
Remember that sadistic teacher you had at primary school? That's Laura.
Wow she still in love with jim😢
She was looking for something in the field of liberal activism to do everyday. As long as she had her material and social needs met and the busy work that Jim Jones gave her to do was in keeping with her liberal activism values, she was complacent, and this enabled her to ignore and rationalize the corrupt, immoral, and dangerous things that Jim Jones was doing.
R.i.p Laura 😢
My money is on Jonestown being full of paranoid schizophrenics and that's how such a thing happened.
I know who this woman really was and the horrible things she actually did and all I can say is just because Nazis grew old doesn't mean they weren't Nazis. Glad she loves hot weather because she is getting as much heat as she wants now
Were you part of peoples temple? What things did she actually do?
What did she do? I know she was part of the planning commission. That’s why she was so able to forgive so easily. She was probably hurting people just as Steven was.
I can see were you are coming from iv studid this case loads most of them were hachuly potty poor kids
Exactly. Jim Jones did not personally punish and threaten everyone.
Jim became her saviour.
As he did with most of him members.
Right which is so ridiculous considering he couldn't even save himself
When the interviewer talks over top of the interviewee, I understand neither one.
46:08 lol lol lol lol i wasnt looking for God so here i went lol
Omg she was a kindergarten teacher?!
What’s wrong with that?
Revolutionaries love children.
She was teaching 5th grade when I knew her. We worked at the same school.
What was she like?
why the fuck she putting extras on it shes tellin her life story the lady askin about how she escaped she talkin about new cars traveling n shit
Don’t all white girls do shit like that just to brag about it to other people ?
Well, as soon as she started spewing her "white privilege" BS, I was done. I can predict the rest. Not watching any further.
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Bye..nobody needs you anyway
Cry about it
she was a typical lefty nut case. All the left are cultists commies
1:35 Follow Christ and He wont bullie u around but ahe joined another cult in 1980 detoxify with the Grace of God
Maybe you should ask for the “grace of god” to “guild” you the proper way to communicate and spelling of words.
Just proves my point even more the religion targets disadvantaged people to take advantage.
Try again.
@@vintageragdoll1991 I ll take on the challenge, but above all flesh(human beings) exists the Holy Spirit ready to descend into the spirit for what? to save , to detox the spirit . This is done by believing and confessing that Christ is the savior and Lord, so there’s of joining a sect no need at all .
No remorse.
32:02 that's exactly what Jim J wanted everyone to feel i am just kidding so that sonewhere ahead He would harm them
The Emperor wears no clothes.
THIS is what happens , when u say there is no (God).
Right!!!!!! The Fool hath said in his heart, there is No God!!!
That’s not true. What if the God You believe in is evil?
This is what happens when you say there is a God and get people to follow you and then flip the switch when they’re already in too deep. Jim Jones was an atheist but he didn’t make that known until he already had a big following. So many wars and unnecessarily things have happened all in the “name of god” . People in power created “God” and the Bible to keep their people under control. If you read the Bible it should be very apparent to you. Every kings had something tweaked and changed in the Bible constantly. I still don’t understand why believers take the Bible as the word of God when it was clearly written by man and man are known to do what.... take control, power, praise. If there is a God it CERTAINLY isn’t any kind any religion has tried to portray. Jesus was a false and a cult leader himself. “Virgin” Mary got impregnated through rape, in those days they would stone or worse a woman to death for being raped. Please learn a bit about your religion besides what a Bible or preacher is telling you. Christian religion adopted at all the pagan traditions Ex: Easter, Christmas and made it their own version.
Also for anyone who wants to come back and try to dispute anything I say I am automatically not responding because you can figure this all out yourself as I did and if you’re replying to me more than likely it’s because you’re in denial and your faith is probably being shaken.
Exactly walk by faith not by sight
A cult is when people worship a man. Religion is when people worship God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost.
Worshiping anything other than nature or IN nature is a cult. After all Jesus was a man people worshiped and where did he preach? Not a huge expensive buildings, you can’t even recognize the churches anymore. Religion is a business now. If you’re a woman of faith you’re not gonna see Religion especially Christian as a cult like more and more people are finally realizing.
So there is a distinction from worshipping someone who is mere flesh and blood and a God that there is no real evidence of, other than one’s faith. Both are cults, in my humble opinion. Love others as you would have them love you, do good work for others, listen to the words of others, be considerate and charitable. These things matter above all else. Would a loving God turn someone like that away from the heavenly reward that “God Fearing” church going people seek? I think the answer is clear.
@@johnaddeo2251 God requires of us to have faith in Him. And to be obedient and worship Him. And to love other people as we love ourselves, and to forgive them their trespasses against us, that He might forgive us our own trespasses and receive us unto Himself on Judgement Day.
@@brendaleverick3655 - From your lips to God’s ears, as they say. But please tell me, will I spend an eternity, burning in hellfire or suspended in purgatory for what I have stated?
@@johnaddeo2251 Have you been baptised in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit? God does require baptism. Even Jesus, the Son of God, was baptised by John the Baptist. And God requires you to be kind and generous to the poor. And attend church on Holy Days.
Yall are crazy and the innocent children lost their lives because of the choices you made!
Y'ALL ARE MAD THAT SHE WASN'T A RACIST! PATHETIC ATTEMPT!
The bible says trust no man
She admitted to being a hip liberal no wonder she made bad decisions
Some liberal's arnt as crazy as she is..
She just wanted peace and harmony. Nothing wrong with that.
@@01denese There's nothing wrong with wanting it, no. We all WANT it. It's the way she thought she as going to get it and the basic misanthropy and need to control others, the denial of humanity and human rights, that go along with her ideology and the ideology of the far left that is the problem.
This woman isn't happy unless she is in some kind of a cult. The Catholic Church a cult, shame on you lady your very sick. It's funny Larry Layton [the man who helped shoot Loe Ryan] is also a Quaker.
The Catholic church is also nuts, and in my eyes IS definitely a cult. Sorry.
You may be right. I am a Muslim, your comment didn't affect me. Yours is just one opinion.
Suz Valentino, religions and cults are just zealots to varying degrees. If you're willing to die for your belief you may be in a cult. If you're not you're a heretic and vice versa. All religions, cult or not, are lies.
Jared Mccaskill exactly!! Religions are created as a way to control people. For instance look when He'll and hellfire was brought into the picture and preached. All to Invoke fear and persecution if you don't do as the religious leader wants you to.
I'm an ex catholic, 45 years old....I saw shit in the late 70s....kids would go away for a few hours, come back face red..tears...they looked mortified...
I was one of the lucky ones....but I remember it...and then I got older...one of my classmates took his life....the Catholic Church is going down in flames.. it's so marred with pedophilia it's out in the open... pedophile behavior in the Catholic Church has gone on 100s and 100s of years...
It sets itself to fail...falsehood of men as idols...why these men are so protected is sick...but I'll never step foot there again....
Hearing Jim Jones is like looking at GOP to Trump Trumpism is Like Jim Jones muddy the waters for sure wow really are brainwashed 😂
ok, first of all, she said there is a difference between religion and cults, NOOOO there isn't. cults are religion and religion are cults.
delia walin this right here is the top IGNORANCE of this world. OMG 🙄
@@erinpark3707 yes it is, religion is ignorance. it causes a whole variety of problems.
True religion aka relationship is completely different than a cult. Full understanding of the bible never supports cult behavior. Just foolish people being lazy and trusting humans for afterlife belief vs true Christian's would know this dink was a chump fake wanker.
@@2000nascarfan So edgy.
delia walin ALL religions ARE cults you idiot. To think otherwise is to assume ONE religion is the „right“ religion, which is completely absurd. You think your 10000 member worthless megachurch, which is nothing more that a „rock-n-Roll- Jesus“ concert with the so-called „pastor“, with his 5 associate „pastors“ all driving their $120,000 Mercedes, flying their private jets, is the true church and can’t possibility be a cult. Well, what the hell is THAT? A rip off social organization? Those places ARE cults, money making machines.
The only real hope in life is knowing Jesus. We can know the peace of having our sins forgiven by repenting of sins and trusting in Jesus.John 6v37 Jesus said “..whoever comes to me I will never drive away.”
This lady was aware beyond her years. She cannot help she was born into this cruel, evil, RACIST country and she tried to do her best to make change. Bless her heart.
She definitely voted for joe biden. Can't believe she was a teacher after being in all that bs
Laura died on November 19, 2019 after a long battle with cancer. She was 72.
May she be in heaven