thank you for this documentary that it shows the dilema of Greenlanders. I admire their wisdom as they want progress but not at any price. Sustainable agriculture and ecoturism makes much more sense but depending on the type of mining and the scale of it could also be reasonable.
Greenland can have mines but they should be nationalised, owned FULLY by the state, operated by state workers. But thats a dream, because the big Corporations will pay the Greenland politicians enough under the table and suddenly the mine is open, corruption is inevitable in a Capitalist country.
Open mines in areas Far from population centers. Promote tourism and Support farms. Build more farms in tawed areas, grow beets, carrots and potatoes. Build green houses for vegetable needs, Export lamb and Import grain. Built small dams and canals in streams, with wind turbines and hydropower produce cheap energy. Pump the water and irrigate the grass. Built aluminium and fertiliser industry with cheap electricity. Built consumer goods industry in big cities.
You can only open mines where there's an economicaly minable ore deposit... Hydro power has an issue as most rivers worthy of a dam ends up in a glacier... And you don't want your dam washed out by a glacial outburst. Aluminium industry, they ( well the Danish government ) missed the opportunity at the Ivigtut Cryolite Mine to do more than mining. ( on the other hand that's a mine that didn't do much damage since the ore was transfered straight from the open mine pit to the ships by a crane. ) It's not as if there hasn't been mines in Greenland before, but with the exception of Ivigtut ( for good reasons ) all the mines so far have been... well mines ( read : underground, with galeries )... not open pits.
I am surprised at the topography of today's Greenland, I finished reading a book named" The ice at the end of the world " by Jon Gertner it's about vast the ice sheet and glaciers of Greenland and Antarctica from 1888 to2018. Now it looks all green and no central ice sheet and glaciers. It is a sad sight. At present the money and power hungry are discussing ,what industry should be pursued in Greenland rather then where has all ice gone, I would like to cry at the state of our perilous earth. 😢😢😢😢
The documentary is filmed in South West Greenland... Which is Green ( it's the reasn why the Vikings called it Greenland after all ) If you go in the National Park ( That's about half of the Greenland ) you will find icecaps, icebergs and glaciers ending up in the sea. Personally, as one of the few people ( that year ) that was allowed to visit the North Eastern Coast, in the national park, on the summer I went there, it's a sight to behold and something preserve. The debate on the Uranium mine is moot anyway, Greenland passed a law banning the mining of Uranium, but the mountains in that specific area are so rich that almost any metal/rare earth can be mined there.
Is it not more economic to bring in supplies, where possible, from Newfoundland or anywhere along the East Coast of Canada, US. Even flying it would seem to be cheaper. Why the dependence on far away Norway? Independence involves making sound economic choices and relying on shipments from Norway doesn't seem to be one that encourages independence.
Nothing comes from Norway; all shipping comes from Aalborg in Denmark. Secondly, there exist no shipping routes from Canada to Greenland. All attempts to build logistics from North America have failed since the 1950s. Greenland is simply too small. Right now, independence is out of economic reach but culturally sound. Also, through a different linguistic area, the film shows how much Greenland has grown since the mid-1980s. Then, hardly any native spoke passable English; now, it is on par with the rest of the Nordics.
What Greenlanders need to do is travel to other countries where mining is just gearing up, in progress, and have shut down to due exhausting resources and talk to the residents. See what and how things work or don’t.
Expanding food production is good but with short seasons Greenlanders can never be self sufficient. Farming and food is not a route to a 21st century economy which can support full political independence. Only the first year growing these vegetables have been tried? Either farmers lack entrepreneurship or the Danish and Greenlandic governments have not been offering the right grants and incentives to support new industries other than mining. Similarly not clear why Greenland cannot find more native tourist guides. Interesting film but one wants to know more.
Darum geht es vom Grundprinzip her. Man muss hier nicht in der Gegend herum fahren, was nicht bedeutet das man nicht auch wo anders hin fahren kann um eben dort ein bisschen herum zu buddeln. Und wenn noch jemand dazu kommt kann man sich darüber freuen das man nicht mehr allein ist und da brauch ich noch nicht einmal einen Gartenzaun um Kinder von Bäumen fern zu halten die nur ein Paar Kirschen naschen wollen oder vielleicht auch einmal Baumwipfel spielen wollen. Ich Schreie nicht sitze gern am Lagerfeuer um ein bisschen die Flammen zu beobachten und hilfste mir so helf ich dir. Alles schön geschmeidig und so kann jeder sein kleines Häuschen haben egal wie es aussieht.
It's foolish to mine dangerous metals in agricultural areas. However it's better to mine in areas unsuitable for farming. If the taxes from mines go to a sovereign wealth fund, the proceeds can be used to build greenhouses to increase production and to grow native crops outdoors more profitably. Greenlanders need the education to make sure that mining is done sustainably which would require mining experience and hunger education. Ideally, Greenlander owned companies run as cooperatives should mine, but financing it would require years of proceeds from a sovereign wealth fund from selective mining.
I hope they will develop a local economy based on native knowledge and Viking-influenced farming. In the long term, that is more sustainable than mining, which may provide a short-term profit but a long-term loss.
Why either? With greenhouses food can be made 6 months of the year and stored by drying/freezing. Mining can be less destructive these days so could be "tolerated"? Covering the Island with Wind Turbines could provide 100% clean energy with Batteries as storage and could join up to feed Canada/USA/Data Centers??
They can farm - but its bad because it's warmer. No economy in a frozen waistland people are leaving, but YAY there is mining! Oh, but somehow money and jobs are bad because someone called it colonailism, which it's not. We could farm our own potatoes, but we don't. We want tourists, but they dont spend enough. We're indiffernt about the airport because there's not enough hotels. Maybe yall need prozac.
@@CarlosGutierrez-ef2pd Soon my friend will the lovely US🇺🇸 extremely worldwide power number 1 with the territory of Greenland and Canada that is almost 25 % of the landarea.
Don't worry, there is already Greta that supports Terrorists. What is your opinion about the killing of Israeli Jews by Hamas, and what is your opinion that there are no free elections in Gaza? Do you support the Hamas dictatureship & their terrorists attacks?
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thank you for this documentary that it shows the dilema of Greenlanders. I admire their wisdom as they want progress but not at any price. Sustainable agriculture and ecoturism makes much more sense but depending on the type of mining and the scale of it could also be reasonable.
Much of the mining will be on islands
hello everyone. Greenland is beautiful
2023/12/26
mining is necesary. Greenland will be a very developed country in the future.
Mining is a Blessing and a Curse at the Same Time
If mining in Greenland, I guess the water they need for mining will be warmer if released to the sea.
Greenland can have mines but they should be nationalised, owned FULLY by the state, operated by state workers.
But thats a dream, because the big Corporations will pay the Greenland politicians enough under the table and suddenly the mine is open, corruption is inevitable in a Capitalist country.
The deal will be much like Alaska
I guess Q doesn't show that on her channel 😅 after all, she works for the mining companies
Pokażcie te miejsca zimą, zamiast nagrywać w najcieplejszy dzień w roku i mówić, że tak jest codziennie.
Open mines in areas Far from population centers. Promote tourism and Support farms. Build more farms in tawed areas, grow beets, carrots and potatoes. Build green houses for vegetable needs, Export lamb and Import grain. Built small dams and canals in streams, with wind turbines and hydropower produce cheap energy. Pump the water and irrigate the grass. Built aluminium and fertiliser industry with cheap electricity. Built consumer goods industry in big cities.
You can only open mines where there's an economicaly minable ore deposit... Hydro power has an issue as most rivers worthy of a dam ends up in a glacier... And you don't want your dam washed out by a glacial outburst.
Aluminium industry, they ( well the Danish government ) missed the opportunity at the Ivigtut Cryolite Mine to do more than mining. ( on the other hand that's a mine that didn't do much damage since the ore was transfered straight from the open mine pit to the ships by a crane. )
It's not as if there hasn't been mines in Greenland before, but with the exception of Ivigtut ( for good reasons ) all the mines so far have been... well mines ( read : underground, with galeries )... not open pits.
I am surprised at the topography of today's Greenland, I finished reading a book named" The ice at the end of the world " by Jon Gertner it's about vast the ice sheet and glaciers of Greenland and Antarctica from 1888 to2018. Now it looks all green and no central ice sheet and glaciers. It is a sad sight. At present the money and power hungry are discussing ,what industry should be pursued in Greenland rather then where has all ice gone, I would like to cry at the state of our perilous earth. 😢😢😢😢
The documentary is filmed in South West Greenland... Which is Green ( it's the reasn why the Vikings called it Greenland after all )
If you go in the National Park ( That's about half of the Greenland ) you will find icecaps, icebergs and glaciers ending up in the sea.
Personally, as one of the few people ( that year ) that was allowed to visit the North Eastern Coast, in the national park, on the summer I went there, it's a sight to behold and something preserve.
The debate on the Uranium mine is moot anyway, Greenland passed a law banning the mining of Uranium, but the mountains in that specific area are so rich that almost any metal/rare earth can be mined there.
@@tenalafel If you see the map of Greenland showing the ice cover from 1888 to 2023, you will understand what I meant to say.
Is it not more economic to bring in supplies, where possible, from Newfoundland or anywhere along the East Coast of Canada, US. Even flying it would seem to be cheaper. Why the dependence on far away Norway? Independence involves making sound economic choices and relying on shipments from Norway doesn't seem to be one that encourages independence.
Nothing comes from Norway; all shipping comes from Aalborg in Denmark. Secondly, there exist no shipping routes from Canada to Greenland. All attempts to build logistics from North America have failed since the 1950s. Greenland is simply too small. Right now, independence is out of economic reach but culturally sound. Also, through a different linguistic area, the film shows how much Greenland has grown since the mid-1980s. Then, hardly any native spoke passable English; now, it is on par with the rest of the Nordics.
What Greenlanders need to do is travel to other countries where mining is just gearing up, in progress, and have shut down to due exhausting resources and talk to the residents. See what and how things work or don’t.
Expanding food production is good but with short seasons Greenlanders can never be self sufficient. Farming and food is not a route to a 21st century economy which can support full political independence. Only the first year growing these vegetables have been tried? Either farmers lack entrepreneurship or the Danish and Greenlandic governments have not been offering the right grants and incentives to support new industries other than mining. Similarly not clear why Greenland cannot find more native tourist guides. Interesting film but one wants to know more.
Darum geht es vom Grundprinzip her. Man muss hier nicht in der Gegend herum fahren, was nicht bedeutet das man nicht auch wo anders hin fahren kann um eben dort ein bisschen herum zu buddeln. Und wenn noch jemand dazu kommt kann man sich darüber freuen das man nicht mehr allein ist und da brauch ich noch nicht einmal einen Gartenzaun um Kinder von Bäumen fern zu halten die nur ein Paar Kirschen naschen wollen oder vielleicht auch einmal Baumwipfel spielen wollen. Ich Schreie nicht sitze gern am Lagerfeuer um ein bisschen die Flammen zu beobachten und hilfste mir so helf ich dir. Alles schön geschmeidig und so kann jeder sein kleines Häuschen haben egal wie es aussieht.
Stay GREEN Greenland🍀🌱☘️
No stay white
It's not green
It's foolish to mine dangerous metals in agricultural areas. However it's better to mine in areas unsuitable for farming. If the taxes from mines go to a sovereign wealth fund, the proceeds can be used to build greenhouses to increase production and to grow native crops outdoors more profitably. Greenlanders need the education to make sure that mining is done sustainably which would require mining experience and hunger education. Ideally, Greenlander owned companies run as cooperatives should mine, but financing it would require years of proceeds from a sovereign wealth fund from selective mining.
its funny they dont name the mining company's wonder why
I don't understand why Greenland can't be a federation of Denmark. Being 100% independent will just create more problems
I hope they will develop a local economy based on native knowledge and Viking-influenced farming. In the long term, that is more sustainable than mining, which may provide a short-term profit but a long-term loss.
I stand with the locals in their fighting against the new-colonialism. No more mining!!! Consume less, use less, buy less!!!
stfu. not all the locals are gay like you
Mining componys first then people will wont to clear the ice for money then it might get politacle from environmentalist.
Why either? With greenhouses food can be made 6 months of the year and stored by drying/freezing. Mining can be less destructive these days so could be "tolerated"? Covering the Island with Wind Turbines could provide 100% clean energy with Batteries as storage and could join up to feed Canada/USA/Data Centers??
Destroy the environment and then leave is what the mining companies will do.
no.
There is no such thing as mining without environmental damage it’s just a pipe dream
They can farm - but its bad because it's warmer.
No economy in a frozen waistland people are leaving, but YAY there is mining! Oh, but somehow money and jobs are bad because someone called it colonailism, which it's not.
We could farm our own potatoes, but we don't.
We want tourists, but they dont spend enough.
We're indiffernt about the airport because there's not enough hotels.
Maybe yall need prozac.
Ask the Greenlanders - not the danish, americans or the europeans!!
Don't exploit Greenland!
if anyone in greenland needs help with their farm lmk im a hard worker and love nature
I really hopes that Greenland and Canada will be part of United States ❤🇺🇸
We will take the Greenlanders, but no Canadians!! lol
We don't need school's shooting 😅
Why on earth would you want that
Soon
@@CarlosGutierrez-ef2pd
Soon my friend will the lovely US🇺🇸 extremely worldwide power number 1 with the territory of Greenland and Canada that is almost 25 % of the landarea.
The best thing for Greenland is to become independent from Denmark and join the United States of America like Alaska.
no.
And then have no free health care and no free education if goes to America
I wonder why Arte keeps total silence about Gaza
Don't worry, there is already Greta that supports Terrorists. What is your opinion about the killing of Israeli Jews by Hamas, and what is your opinion that there are no free elections in Gaza? Do you support the Hamas dictatureship & their terrorists attacks?
You think there's a bloody shortage of content?
Educated men and Modern system are important for this world
Because we're sick and tired hearing about Gaza already!