It’s a shame Maori (referring to MPs here not the public) find a need to attack and insult people who make submissions, but are unable to just ask questions about their concerns. It shows a lack of professionalism and in my opinion a real bullying type mentality, it’s also reducing the ability for answers to be heard. In short they don’t appear to respect anyone, and it’s hurting the process.
The TPB is not gonna pass so the decorum of respectability isn't necessarily important in this regard and is a waste of money and time when our politicians should be working on our economy and bringing the cost of living down as Luxon promised
@@stephenlennon7369 it’s actually doing exactly what they want, they know it won’t pass, and this isn’t their intention. The intention was to put a spotlight on Maori activists and the money being spent on just Maori. I believe this is more what Act is wanting to achieve, and I’d say they have accomplished that task. As to why, likely because it will become an election campaign in the next cycle.
@DerekBolli actually it refers to the systemic racism that has been well documented (He Whaipaanga hau 1988, MAI journal review 2009, JustSpeak IDI research 2020 just to name a few), which indicates that maori are up to 7 times more likely to be incarcerated than their pakeha counterparts, for the same circumstances. There's nothing equal about that.
@@missshante8082025! How long do you hang on to something that didn't directly affect you? The Jewish dont let their history and experience continue to define that systemically
For all the land thefts, laws enacted to dispossess Māori of their lands, with redress being settled. Instead of govt paying a paltry 2% recompense, pay the full amount owing, then Māori can have full autonomy to fund all the inequities suffered by Māori, instead of having to be grateful for the crumbs from the govts table. Don’t be fooled by the disinformation, misinformation being peddled by Seymour and his followers! A lack of understanding, and the reluctance to do so! Toitu Te Tiriti! Honour the Treaty!
Sandras presentation around the one hour mark was my favourite. Asking what qualifies Sandra to talk about anything Maori 😂😂😂 If thats the best response they had for Sandra, it tells you they have no argument at all, and would rather try bully-boy tactics 😂😂😂 Typical. And Rawiris behaviour 😅😅😅
@@BaldheadfromHuntlyI was searching for the "gravy train" Maori are said to be financially riding, hoping to jump on as I am Maori.i never found the train but have learned the I do not have the credentials and that only ELITES can ride it.i don't know any ELITE MAORI but assume they are in bed with the government.But I have found another gravy train that our laws do not apply to those riding it.But you have to be extremely wealthy of which I and I'd say 99% of Maori aren't.The likes of Peter Thiel ride this train with our government right behind brown nosing saying "What laws?" noo, noo not for you ,your special.That is the only real gravy train I know of
Marino James " david seymour threatens to bring this bill back as many times as it takes ... that's not democracy ... that's ego" ... from the mouths of babes, never a truer word spoken👍🤙👌🫰
Get the foundation right first and foremost! The Crown represents Pakeha and all other peoples. Māori stand in their own right! Then the discussions between all others! Toitu Te Tiriti! Honour the Treaty!
This repedetive talk of all equal under the laws and that Maori have different rights than Non Maori is true as I have witnessed multiple times in court.Same charges but Maori getting totally different sentences than others,and not for the better. The REAL ones that have different laws to the rest of us are POLITICIANS RICH MATES LIKE PETER THIEL ,take a look how the laws did not apply to him to gain NZ CITIZENSHIP like everyone else has to follow.When you have enough MONEY for these Politicians our laws can be bought and don't apply to the RICH NOT MAORI!!!.We don't have any money ffs.
"We cannot trust the government to uphold the rule of law.." Think about that sentence for a bit, and consider the conspiracy theory ridden intellect behind it. How about "there is no partnership...". "..the Treaty of Waitangi principles blunder". "...the exclusion of all non-Maori.." "..they're just Maori words whose meaning can apply to anyone". Wow. Just wow.
The Indian man spouts views that we shouldn't have ethnic based language schools (but specifically indigenous people only) when India has over 1000 languages which means they have ethnic based schools. Most Indian families send their children to private, charter and religious schools because they don't want them in the multicultural medium schools.
Ferris is correct. Theres a significant knowledge gap and ministers should have a certain amount of prerequisites before sitting on a committee about the Tiriti or about anything
Comparing the system of Aotearoa with that of India is just silly. India has a totally different set of circumstances. Ie.They have huge devisions between many groups with religion involved in many cases. We don't. They don't have a coloniser imposing their laws etc on everybody.
My understanding was that when the Pioneers arrived here there were only 2 people, Māori & Pākeha! But Pākeha didn't mean you were white skinned people it simply meant you didnt have Māori blood running through your veins, now in Aotearoa we have Indians, Asians, Italians etc thinking they're being left out because they don't see themselves as Pākeha? Sorry people, you are!
No it pakeha means english person. When maori arrived in nz they saw the patupaiarehe people and also slaved and slaughtered the moriori, then denied the moriori existence and now try to relable moriori as maori which is incorrect
Every time someone makes great points as to why we need the principles TPA play race card get all upset and say what gives you the right to talk about Maori ? Well what gives you the right to talk about pakeha Rawiri? Should stick to your trans like dancing
David, the judge compared to Rawiri, the mp was enlightening - intelligence vs ignorance. Duncan Webb also comes across as so committed to his biased perspective on the principles of the ToW that he doesn't engage his brain.
It’s a shame Maori (referring to MPs here not the public) find a need to attack and insult people who make submissions, but are unable to just ask questions about their concerns. It shows a lack of professionalism and in my opinion a real bullying type mentality, it’s also reducing the ability for answers to be heard.
In short they don’t appear to respect anyone, and it’s hurting the process.
Well said, they are constantly cutting off and shouting down other politicians while giving their answers
The TPB is not gonna pass so the decorum of respectability isn't necessarily important in this regard and is a waste of money and time when our politicians should be working on our economy and bringing the cost of living down as Luxon promised
@@stephenlennon7369 it’s actually doing exactly what they want, they know it won’t pass, and this isn’t their intention. The intention was to put a spotlight on Maori activists and the money being spent on just Maori. I believe this is more what Act is wanting to achieve, and I’d say they have accomplished that task. As to why, likely because it will become an election campaign in the next cycle.
@@stephenlennon7369 agree they should be focused on cost of living, but as National is about capitalism I don’t see that happening.
If your kind tell the actual truth instead of false information
Well said Sandra! Thank you!
For what?
@@stephenlennon7369 He's a woodwind instrument fan, liked the tone of her racist dog whistle.
What's the point of having members on the committee that roll their eyes and are glued to their phones?
Illogical. You don't know the difference between we and I
your imagination💭lol getting the best of you
For those following along at home, "legal harm" means "committing crimes and getting caught" 🙄
@DerekBolli actually it refers to the systemic racism that has been well documented (He Whaipaanga hau 1988, MAI journal review 2009, JustSpeak IDI research 2020 just to name a few), which indicates that maori are up to 7 times more likely to be incarcerated than their pakeha counterparts, for the same circumstances. There's nothing equal about that.
@@missshante808 Yes, judges take previous convictions into account and are more lenient to first offenders. Film at 11 🙂
@@DerekBolliOh Boi another dossie comment 😅
@@stephenlennon7369 Not familiar with the term. Google says it's short for "dossier" so I'll conclude it means "accurate". Thanks, Tommy Robinson 🙂
@@missshante8082025! How long do you hang on to something that didn't directly affect you? The Jewish dont let their history and experience continue to define that systemically
Sandra you said it all! Honestly Bravo
For all the land thefts, laws enacted to dispossess Māori of their lands, with redress being settled. Instead of govt paying a paltry 2% recompense, pay the full amount owing, then Māori can have full autonomy to fund all the inequities suffered by Māori, instead of having to be grateful for the crumbs from the govts table. Don’t be fooled by the disinformation, misinformation being peddled by Seymour and his followers! A lack of understanding, and the reluctance to do so!
Toitu Te Tiriti! Honour the Treaty!
She certainly made sure everyone knows she's all over the place like a madwoman's custard.
Sandra is onto it! Pretty much the view of 90 %.of the country
Arrogant racist judge
Sandras presentation around the one hour mark was my favourite.
Asking what qualifies Sandra to talk about anything Maori 😂😂😂
If thats the best response they had for Sandra, it tells you they have no argument at all, and would rather try bully-boy tactics 😂😂😂
Typical.
And Rawiris behaviour 😅😅😅
How can a person who hates Maori by her own admission has bugger all to do with their culture on a daily basis have any idea of Maoridom?
She was sprouting inconsistencies and some was down right wrong
@stephenlennon7369 why not call her out then?
And what are they?
Or are you not qualified to speak on them?
@@BaldheadfromHuntly get out of your feelings. No one cares how you feel.
@@BaldheadfromHuntlyI was searching for the "gravy train" Maori are said to be financially riding, hoping to jump on as I am Maori.i never found the train but have learned the I do not have the credentials and that only ELITES can ride it.i don't know any ELITE MAORI but assume they are in bed with the government.But I have found another gravy train that our laws do not apply to those riding it.But you have to be extremely wealthy of which I and I'd say 99% of Maori aren't.The likes of Peter Thiel ride this train with our government right behind brown nosing saying "What laws?" noo, noo not for you ,your special.That is the only real gravy train I know of
What a load of garbage this man is talking about . Good parenting is what is required
Who are you referring too?
Is that you answer to complex issues. A load of rubbish?
maori are gd parents.no child bashings for over a week now
Karl ignorance at its finest!
@@wikitoriasmith1713 its true.no tamariki bashed for over a week.well done i say.
Marino James " david seymour threatens to bring this bill back as many times as it takes ... that's not democracy ... that's ego" ... from the mouths of babes, never a truer word spoken👍🤙👌🫰
Has the chairperson been told that tino rangatiratanga means the chief's word is gospel; not every Tom, Dick, Rawiri, or Hone?
😂😂😂😂😂😂 it's, been a long, long time coming but, I know a CHANGE is gonna come
Get the foundation right first and foremost! The Crown represents Pakeha and all other peoples.
Māori stand in their own right! Then the discussions between all others!
Toitu Te Tiriti! Honour the Treaty!
Victoria Elizabeth and Charles are not my queen and king in this and in God kingdom for Eve and Eve Ake Ake Amen
Yeah NAH to NACTF 🤮
James meager cannot use New Zealand, therfore is biased to begin with
Willy Wonker
This repedetive talk of all equal under the laws and that Maori have different rights than Non Maori is true as I have witnessed multiple times in court.Same charges but Maori getting totally different sentences than others,and not for the better. The REAL ones that have different laws to the rest of us are POLITICIANS RICH MATES LIKE PETER THIEL ,take a look how the laws did not apply to him to gain NZ CITIZENSHIP like everyone else has to follow.When you have enough MONEY for these Politicians our laws can be bought and don't apply to the RICH NOT MAORI!!!.We don't have any money ffs.
John tamihere has plenty
@BaldheadfromHuntly I don't know him
Quentin, Tika, Thiel and what and who he represents, and why? Tip of the ice berg!
Equal rights not more rights for Maori thats the paheka words not Maori.
equal rights in law is cool but doesn’t equate to taking someone precision of rights to🎉heritage
"We cannot trust the government to uphold the rule of law.." Think about that sentence for a bit, and consider the conspiracy theory ridden intellect behind it. How about "there is no partnership...". "..the Treaty of Waitangi principles blunder". "...the exclusion of all non-Maori.." "..they're just Maori words whose meaning can apply to anyone". Wow. Just wow.
The Indian man spouts views that we shouldn't have ethnic based language schools (but specifically indigenous people only) when India has over 1000 languages which means they have ethnic based schools. Most Indian families send their children to private, charter and religious schools because they don't want them in the multicultural medium schools.
Ae, what country can Māori go to and expect the exact equal rights, as in Manuhiri arriving in Aotearoa? None!
Hank,,this is going to be a interesting year
Ferris is correct. Theres a significant knowledge gap and ministers should have a certain amount of prerequisites before sitting on a committee about the Tiriti or about anything
Exactly ferrit is racist as hell shldnt even be in parliament what happened to all the disciplinery actions that were spose to happen against TPA?
Comparing the system of Aotearoa with that of India is just silly. India has a totally different set of circumstances. Ie.They have huge devisions between many groups with religion involved in many cases. We don't. They don't have a coloniser imposing their laws etc on everybody.
How come stop co governance doesn't get 10 mins to talk but drunken kiri Ellen does ? Convicts have more rights than all other nz'ers?
My understanding was that when the Pioneers arrived here there were only 2 people, Māori & Pākeha! But Pākeha didn't mean you were white skinned people it simply meant you didnt have Māori blood running through your veins, now in Aotearoa we have Indians, Asians, Italians etc thinking they're being left out because they don't see themselves as Pākeha? Sorry people, you are!
You are left out? Or you are Pakeha?
No it pakeha means english person. When maori arrived in nz they saw the patupaiarehe people and also slaved and slaughtered the moriori, then denied the moriori existence and now try to relable moriori as maori which is incorrect
@@Yayme1613 . . .nope
@@Yayme1613 Spitting out lies....
@saregama-r8td No, they actually are maori stories, and records, No lies here no point lying when we have Google to fact check
Leve the treaty alone and just fine away to work together for all kiwi and maori
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Maringi James, Tino rawe!
No oppose his answer, u saying the wrong british lore
Sandra , truth
She's a bigot. Don't cheer for bigots.
this is our land
Every time someone makes great points as to why we need the principles TPA play race card get all upset and say what gives you the right to talk about Maori ? Well what gives you the right to talk about pakeha Rawiri? Should stick to your trans like dancing
it is a race card produced by seemore eliminating one’s pre-existing rights which was between authorities not subjects 500 to 1
Doesn't matter the outcome of this....
Sandra who?
David, the judge compared to Rawiri, the mp was enlightening - intelligence vs ignorance. Duncan Webb also comes across as so committed to his biased perspective on the principles of the ToW that he doesn't engage his brain.
Isn't that the point. . .to support your agenda, not to hide it in a select committee hearing.