Rewatching this now-This is the perfect example of a woman who listened carefully to what each man was saying and took the red flags as they are. Excellent choice! Bryan is HOT.
She made her choice because she fell for Bryan in the beginning of the show. She was secure in their love for each other. Peter was not the only guy she liked. Remember there was Eric, dean, Matt & adam. They all fell for Rachel. Bryan and her personality fit perfectly. Peter was trying to make a name for himself at the expense of Rachel. The show was about the Bachelorette, Rachel, not Peter. Yes he is a good looking guy but so is Bryan. Rachel found the love of her life, and we are happy for them.
She shouldn't have to explain anything. People just love complicated relationships,Bryan was very direct about his intentions,and he acted as such, perfect choice.
Although Rachel cared more for Peter than she is willing to admit now...I applaud her for refusing his offer to propose just to keep from losing her...after all the tears walking away was the thing to do, it have never worked..Bryan was the right choice for her!
Not refusing to see past Peter's bs. He was playing Rachel. Everything the guy said was contradicting. Then he wants her and then he isn't sure,whatever. It is frustrating and i feel bad for Rachel that she had to endure that. She knew Peter was dragging her along and she wanted to know why..so sad he's not man enough to say it
Lol, yes, but he had his first taste of Brown Skin. We should send him a copy of India Arie's song of the same name for comfort because he will be haunted by Rachel's love the rest of his life. Poor Peter.
I love her. I think she made the right choice. Peter was too damn wishy washy about EVERYTHING his own life. She deserves a man who is certaint about how he feels about her and she got it!
Omg can y'all stop hating on Bryan. He was an obvious choice. Peter said multiple times he wasn't ready for an engagement and his relationship with Rachel wasn't as strong as her and Bryan's. so just stop just because your fave didn't "win"
Britney Castro Most people's problem is not that she chose Bryan but she has been downplaying her relationship with Peter and assassinating his character when he has said nothing bad about her
It seems like most of you commenters never watched the damn show. The whole time Rachel was googoo gaga over Bryan, not Peter or anyone else. I guess you saw the season finale only and decided the rest of the season goes into the trash. It's been obvious Rachel was going to pick Bryan for a long time now. Don't let the dramatics fool you.
CJ Modi I have watched the show for many years and read the spoilers. I knew she was picking Bryan and was happy for her It's not about that, three months later and you are still resentful and bashing Peter, when she responds in that way it shows her as being petty and resentful.
Let's forget that she watched the 3hrs live finale in front of everyone and had Peter brought out before she even processed what she saw. There were things she had forgotten he said and there are things she didn't see until then. Plus with the way Bryan was hated all season just to uplift Peter, I don't blame her for reacting that way. Plus Peter had been liking negative comments about Bryan on instagram. Rachel is a straight shooter, she won't sugar-coat how she feels. It was important for her to let him know that her life is just fine.
@@destinychild4659 Who received the matching watches??? Who was informed of dates without date cards?? Who met Rachel friends?? Who was greeting hi baby by Rachel at his hometown??? Who received the first impression rose and give the first kiss??? Who received the best dates ever and the best fantasy suite???? THE ANSWER WAS BRYAN. GO BACK AND REWATCHED THE SHOW AGAIN.
Rachel is so likable! Funny, warm, witty and engaging. Most people disagree but I think they might actually make it. They both seem mature enough for a real adult relationship.
You go girl! Glad you did not settle for wishy washy Peter. You deserve what you want. Why did Peter join this show if he wasn't willing to propose? Thank you for showing America what we really fall for. Men with commitment issues. The truth is Peter played a game. Bryan was the pick for sure!
I don´t see him wishy washy. Or playing any games. Peter just wanted to be sure before he proposed. Totally smart and sane. Most relationships in Bachelor and Bachelorette don´t last. He was just being honest. They just weren´t right for each other.
Rachel is such a Beautiful and intelligent woman, and Bryan is a lucky man who stole her heart. They love each other, and I wish them well. All the HATERS ARE GONNA HATE. WHO CARES!
All of the responses below that believe that Peter was the one, have no understanding of non-verbal behavior. Neither do they understand that Rachel had to complete 10 episodes of The Bachelorette. Further more, Rachel never withheld the truth of wanting a husband. When any person dates they do and behave in the very same way that Rachel did. The difference is, it's done in an unusually quick and compressed way; with all the males in close proximity and in a relationship with the same guys that she's in. Yet I picked Bryan as soon as he came out of the limo and began speaking to her in Spanish. This black woman, me, knows what that walk meant after Bryan introduced himself. Hey they're still ENGAGED. Accept it, ya'll.
She sends home Eric, who's charming, handsome, has such a great heart, and who was ready to propose , but she keeps the guy who never wants to have genuine conversations without tonguing her down. Somebody please hand me a calculator cause this shit isn't adding up.
True, but Rachel saw Eric inexperience as far as being in an relationship since he never be in love, or never brought a girl home, so Rachel was like why should I hire you for a job, that you have no skills, or experience in.
+disiskrazy d Eric did say hes never been in love before, but he was Ready to get down on one knee because he truly wanted Rachel to be his wife. Rachel really was stupid for stringing him along only to break his heart. Josiah's right, she has bad judgement.
Tori Kelly fan that's because Bryan has more substance, confidence, character, passion, Intellect ,maturity and stability than Eric or any of the other contestants on Rachel's season. Eric was definitely a big NO. Lacked chemistry, maturity ,stability or professionalism. Never had a real gf.What was Rachel to do with him ? She was not looking for a bf only a husband . He definitely was not husband material . I just did not see him fitting into her social circle without feeling misplaced . Maybe in a few more years when has matured emotionally ,socio-economically and professionally he may meet his soul mate who is equal. In the mean time Rachel and Bryan
I am so happy and glad that her choice is making everyone look like salty little bitches, way to go, Rachel , I wish you a Happy life with who ever you CHOSE TO BE WITH.
Did she really just say that she was infatuated with Peter?!?!? Like is she foreal , everyone knows and could see this entire season that her entire relationship with Bryan was physical. Girl you couldn't even say bye to Peter!
Yeah right. Bryan was the her first and her last, and was her prize at the end of this game baby. The man who excites her, and treated her like his QUEEN. Only a fool, would have given up Bryan.
Ivoire Rienna True it doesn't make sense why he would come on the show just to say he is not ready for marriage. He knows you are supposed to propose at the end of the show so why was he here? Now he wants to be the Bachelor? FOH Peter
I honestly don't see the hype with him. I'm glad Rachel didn't choose him, he came on this show with the intention of becoming the next bachelor, not Rachel's fiance. He made that pretty clear when he waited until the last minute to tell her he wasn't ready for an engagement.
I am with you Savannah. I'll admit I was on the pachel ship but in all honesty it was exhausting watching them so I could only imagine what it was like to actually be in it. I am glad she is happy.
I liked Peter but the problem is he was being realistic but what if he is actually a person who can never commit. Didn't he say he never told his ex his true feelings?
So she literally pushes someone, any chances she gets, into proposing to her but yet she doesn't see him as her husband ? She really shouldn't say anything at all when it comes to Peter because she looks stu-pid right now ! Whether she or her fiancé like it or not Peter was HER #1 choice he was just too much in his head. But yeah the proof is out there Rachel. I get it it's not a good look but it's been well documented that what she had with Peter was beyond infatuation.
kanyetothe Say he was her choice but was too much in his head, where does that leave her. She wanted to have a future and family and even his family said he was not ready. I think there was a bachelor in Australia who chose his final girl but did not propose, he felt it was not right and they broke up later. Australia was annoyed with his decision too.
Isn't Geneva where she had her date with Bryan and bought him the watch and then Bryan came home bragged about it and made Peter question his relationship with Rachel, after which she had her date with Peter who probably was reacting to the whole watch thing and that's why he seemed to pull away and not "know what he wants"?
Because most people are truly dense - ergo Trump being elected for president. At the core of it common sense is not common. They mad that she did all that for and with Bryan but it was not enough for them to see that maybe just maybe she did all that because she was more into him. Lots of dull people walking the streets.
Excuse me? Which show did you watch? Bryan bragged? When and where? On the show I watched, when Bryan came in from the date, someone remarked that he had returned and he asked if his return was unexpected. Then he was asked to describe everything about his day including why he was dressed the way he was. He started doing so and someone interjected with questions about the watch. He was specifically asked if Rachel had purchased the watch. He responded truthfully with no inflection whatsoever.
What do you guys mean,, you can tell how sad she was on her dates with Peter after talking to her in geneva, lol! Makes sense she started thinking he was not the one..lolol
Wait....didnt she say she went in to his room to get rid if him....but wasn't it Peter who toldher that they should go their seperate ways and she started crying and didnt want to leave. But now she wants to act like she kicked him to the curb for Bryan; but truly she had no choice because Peter told her that he wasn't bending!!! But he will do it for her. Of course she was really scared that if she sent Bryan home Peter was not going to fall through .
suzyfreak she did- she chose to send Peter home rather than pining after him endlessly waiting for him to decide he wanted to settle down. she always said she wanted a man who knows what he wants and wants what she wants WITH her
Vroxzz Roxz He told her to go be with that person... My point was it was a mutual decision to end it and between her and Peter, she didn't actually chose to send him home now she's trying to make it sound like he never mattered and she chose Bryan over him changing the narrative... It's good she got the person who wanted what she wanted right now but no need to try and play Peter
suzyfreak but everyone who has ever been heartbroken is guilty of revisionist history. it's how you get over someone - you tell yourself they were never the one and back it up with evidence that wasn't relevant when you wanted it to work but suddenly becomes the reason y things would have never worked out
Vroxzz Roxz I totally agree, we are all revisionists after getting hurt but she's being extreme with it, I mean seriously she's badmouthing him more since yesterday than she's talking about her engagement,making sure he doesn't become the next bachelor, you'd think he'd been saying bad things about her since it ended but he's constantly been defending her on social media,I would have thought that would lessen the hurt even a little bit ...and I'd think part of revising history was acting like it never happened, letting go and focusing on the "positive"...idk she's been a class act until now maybe expecting her to remain the same isn't realistic
She got me FUCKED UP. I could say the same thing about her and Bryan being infatuated. What she had with Peter was real life shit, all Bryan did was kiss her and kept telling her everything she wanted to hear. If they last longer than 2 years I'll shut up forever with this. Until then, I'm still heated that she keeps denying what she had with Peter.
Girrrrl you were literally begging Peter to put a ring on it. It was embarrassing but what's even worse is her denying that she chose the "sloppy seconds" haha
If She knew Bryan was the one all along why was she still trying to convince Peter to propose the night before the proposal? So Rachel you mean to tell us you wanted Peter to propose just so you can tell him no the next day. GOOD FUCKIN BYE GIRL
She's full of it. Rachel followed the ring. If she didn't see him as the one; why was she so upset about him not proposing. She just settled for Bryan. Y'all forgot Bryan he went on a show called the player. Don't come for peter.
I just don't get it. I understand that she wanted a proposal but what's more important: being proposed to by a fake and someone who only cares about her physically, OR someone who wants to take that time and get to know you 100% before making that commitment?? Shit doesn't even make sense. She was blinded by the thought of a proposal and I feel sorry for her. Peter OBVIOUSLY had strong feelings for her, AND her for him! I don't believe half the crap that is coming out of her mouth and I don't think she does either. I rest my case.
Stephanie Goettner ... I totally 100% agree with you on everything you said because it's exactly the same I've been thinking too! You don't just turn your feelings off and on like a light switch and marry anyone who will propose to you like it's a game. Peter was the REAL DEAL because you could actually FEEL his best intentions come through every time they were together. For some reason I too feel that Rachel chose Bryan because he was a second choice and she was infatuated with him because he really liked her or loved her and she loved that as well as him being "Latin" which most women swoon for big time! Anyway, I too feel that she should have waited and gave Peter the time he needed and say the heck with them all IF she was REALLY in love with him too but she didn't give them enough time to really get to know each other and wanted that proposal and marriage so bad that she was willing to forgo probably the best man in her life she will ever come across who REALLY and TRULY loves her! I don't see her and Bryan lasting whether still dating or in marriage. With Peter I feel that was her true equal and a best friend but oh well ... her bad! You live and learn and by then it's too late.
EmeraldJade66 agree agree agree!! Me and my boyfriend watch the show together and even he was saying how Peter was the obvious choice. A proposal means nothinggggggg if the true love isn't there. Peter understands that but Rachel was just so blinded!! I was watching interviews and she literally said in an interview that she was infatuated with PETER!! Like what??? Everything with Bryan was purely physical I can't even believe she said that
Stephanie Goettner ... Exactly!!! Right there with ya again girl! And great that your guy was watching with you :) ... It can be a little addictive to say the least :D ... but yeah I really agree with you that Peter was totally the obvious choice and was totally ready for marriage but just didn't want to rush into right away. Look at what Rachel and Bryan are doing now ... just dating and she even said in an interview that there will be no wedding date set for this year anyway cause they are having way too much fun dating. Right! WRONG!!!!! Geez!! Unreal!! Nah! It's all fake and she's fake! She's the one who doesn't really know what she wants! If she did she would've had her head on straight and picked the RIGHT guy (Peter). You can tell he's even way more mature in his thinking and actions by far than Bryan. Bryan comes across to me as a "player" and a good one at that. It won't last with those two. The newness will wear off quick then what? See ya!! With Peter, even after the newness wore off he would STILL be exactly the same as he was on the show and giving his love day and night to this girl. Yeah it was all physical for sure and based solely on lust and looks. Like I said, he's a latino/brazilian and women love and are drawn to that "exotic spark" never mind it doesn't usually last for the man cause he's so into himself knowing women are falling all over him. Really it's all sad. Oh well .. she had her man but she chose the wrong path. Karma is a bitch. Pray it works for them but I truly have my doubts based on everything from the show. Best for Peter to say goodbye to the likes of her and move on! He deserves MUCH better! Wish him the best of luck always. He's such a beautiful man inside and out.
Wow so I guess we were not watching the same show then? You all are a bunch of delusional cows if you could not see that Peter had been cold and distant since Geneva. The last couple of dates between them were TEDIOUS. Their body language was off, kisses were forced and Peter was literally pushing her her away. Now the one variable I am unable to control for is the fact that Rachel, being fully aware that it turned out that he was just not that into her, still wanted to pull something out of him. That I would readily admit I don't get. She knew this man ain't want her but perhaps because of her admitted infatuation/ attraction to him she was in denial. But in the end c'mon it was clear Peter was not in love, in fact I don't think he liked her. GO back to their videos, his body language everything was off with her but he was in too deep and not man enough to eject himself when he very well could have seeing he had the upper hand in the relationship because that is what decent men do. Contestants of this so called sleazy show have had the balls to do so in the post but not Peter. He is the lowest of the low, a sleazeball. He had to see it to an end to get his bachelor gig so he could go on and do exactly what he swore he could never do with Rachel. Give me a break. Stevie wonder could see she had to ask and plead for kisses. What man would hesitate to kiss a woman he claims he was falling in love with? Again I would admit, I don't understand why she didn't let him go sooner, I can only think, hmm sleight of the producers' hand? Ratings ploy due to the Bachelornation white flight from her season? Hmmm
You hit the proverbial nail on its head, Clickmama.. The franchise prevented her from sending him off in Geneva. They waned drama and suspense so she provided what they wanted because she'd have her heart's desire in the end.
OHHH MY GOOOD RACHEL...you are so hurt by the fact peter didnt want to propose thats unbelivable... why are you talking so nasty about him... never in a million years you would have said NO to peter...NEVER... Iam sooo glad he is not with you...please stop lying...
Rachel Lindsay may have the gift of gabbing, BUT she's been trained this way and I would NEVER hire her as my lawyer. She hardly can defend herself !! She's such a self-righteous black woman !!
She could not even stop kissing Peter nor did she wanted to tell him bye .i think she was in love with Peter but she realized Bryan was ready to love her ,so she picked the one who knew what he wanted .
I know a lot of women who won't leave a man because they're afraid of not being able to be loved by any other man. So what they do is settle down for something small so what Rachel do was good , she knows what she wants out of life Peter won't give her an engagement 💍 she shouldn't stay with him , she's 31 I think she doesn't have this time in her hand 🤚 to play games. I think some of y'all women think you guys are HER let me tell y'all something it's her life , if she thinks that her gut say she should go with Bryan with all means. I never like Bryan since day 1 but I'm not with him I shouldn't be upset it's her life her choice .
Pathetic, she had no option but to choose second best, she was desperate not to disappoint the viewers, it can't last... Peter was obviously her first choice, I wonder what Bryan thinks after watching the last episode and all of this after going to bed with all three of them so did Rachel actually compare them sexually, makes you think?
She's like we've been dating for three months and it's going great 😒 just like you were in a bubble on the show you haven't been able to spend time in public together, it's still not the "real thing"
By pinning her happiness on a ring, and trying too hard to get Peter to produce one And then by process of elimination left with only one Colombian sleazeball
Hello, out there I am texting this message via YT. I am still on the Pachel train, people are still on. The police have just cut off our ability to make outgoing calls from the train. There are news helicopters hoovering above the train. We have a hostage squad in the woods with bullhorns telling us to get off the train. We negotiated to have Eric bring food and water to the diabetics, it is all on CNN, lol
How naïve! Did she actually say Bryan proved himself to her? Can anyone tell me how one "proves" himself in a matter of weeks, months, even. It can take years of being married already, for spouses to "prove" themselves.I think Rachel still has much to learn!
He would be a hypocrite if he took the bachelor gig! He frowned upon the process not Rachel. So if he took it, it would confirm that he is a scammer because the bachelor is on the same timeline.
so she isn't getting married for at least a year? all that gay hype of an engagement for what? to still wait? okay smart move ding don't in passing up peter who would have I'm sure been ready by a year and dashing incredible eric wow she is off her rocker fake fake
Her relationship will end because a ring doesn't mean forever. Even though Peter didn't propose he still wanted to be with her. Just because Bryan proposed with a ring the show bought......doesn't mean he will stick around. She's a LIAR!!!! She really is. Peter is the winner in this situation!!! Run buddy and be glad u dodged a bullet with this one!!! Cray Cray!!! SMH
One year later they are still together and look really happy. People were conned by the editing of the show. I love how people go “she is a liar” yet they only watch 1hr a week of a show and decide what is good for her.
She was brought together by God to MEET Peter. BRIAN is a HUGE player. PETER IS A wonderful man. Yes you did expect THAT. You had everything rehearsed RACHEL. BULL CRAP.But you refused to see BRIANS BS!!!
Then Peter should have pursued her. I can't with putting all of this on Rachel like Peter was the prize. He should've been focused on her and more intentional with her. But he wasn't and that's on him not her. I really don't think Peter ever wanted to marry her. He says it out of his own mouth in the ESPN Wisconsin interview that he went on that show for exposure and the adventure of a lifetime and to meet people. And I just saw an interview with him posted today from I Heart Radio saying that he would absolutely be the Bachelor if the time was right and he was offered it again. If engagement is marriage and he only wants to do it once and he didn't want to do it with Rachel... People keep saying that Rachel chose a ring over true love. But why can't they accept that Peter chose the possibility of being The Bachelor over true love? It wasn't until hometowns when Peter was still dragging his feet and things had progressed so far with Bryan that she thought Bryan was the one. Peter was all walls walls and more walls. He absolutely could have had her if he had gone all in. Their first date was everything. He chose to pull away and he's the one that lost her. Only time will tell what Bryan's true character is. But from what he's shone, he absolutely adores Rachel and he already liked her before he even met her from watching her on Nick's season. Why should Rachel has trusted someone who refused to go all in with her?
Kay Monay Honey ;can i ask you a personal question? Do you have a daughter He did say that he would never propose without meeting ;both her mom and her dad .I used to be a therapist; and i was also trained as I too worked in both Provincial Court and Federal Court I see Rachel's eyes pleading for Peter to say that he was ready. Right then and there I to see engagement as a direct reflection of marriage as well. He said "I LOVE YOU SO MUCH " CAN YOU PLEASE TRUST ME? ALL HE WANTED WAS TO SEE HOW THE 2 OF THEM WOULD MESH WITH HIS/ HER FAMILIES AND FRIEND'S. AS SHE RAN INTO HIS ARM'S; THOSE TEARS AS SHE SMILED AND SAID THAT SHE IS AND HAS/ A LICENCE TO PRACTICE IN WISCONSIN. SEE SHE ALREADY KNEW AFTER SPEAKING TO PETERS MOM IS HE READY TO MARRY NOW? NO IT'S TO SOON. 1-10 COUPLES DON'T LAST 7 YRS. HE SAID TRUST ME AND HE WINKED. PERSONALLY I THINK THAT PETER LOVED HER SOOOOU MUCH. AND THAT BEING SAID; I HONESTLY THINK/ KNOW THAT PETER HIMSELF SAID WTF. HE WAS SKEPTICAL TOO. I SAW THE WAY HE INTERACTED WITH HER MOM I PROMISE YOU M LINDSAY IF I DON'T SEE MYSELF AND RACHEL AS THE ONE; O PROMISE YOU THAT I DO HAVE RACHEL'S BEST INTEREST AT HEART RACHEL FAMILY SAW RIGHT THROUGH BRIAN. BUT IF SHE'S HAPPY THEN I'M HAPPY. ALL HE WANTED WAS A SOME TIME IN THE REAL WORLD SHE WAS PISSED OFF HOPING FOR PETER TO CHANGE HIS MIND. 9 WEEK'S AND A HANDFUL OF DATES. SHE FELT MORE PRESSURE AS 1ST B WOMAN PLUS SHE WAS SCARED OF NOT GETTING A PROPOSAL. IT WOULD HAVE EMBARRASSED HER TOO ONE THING THAT I WILLSAY IS MEN, IF A WOMAN WANTS KIDS. THEM A YR OFDATING AND ANOTHER YR FOR MARRIAGE GETTING PREGNANT NATURALLY GUYS FOR WOMEN DROPS 60- 78% AFTER THE AGE OF 35. BUT IF THEY HAVE PROBLEMS IT'S EVEN HARDER. THERE'S A TEST NOW FOR WOMEN TO SAY HOW MANY EGGS SHE HAS LEFT.
I actually do have a daughter, and I believe whole heartedly that had Peter gone all in with her and put his walls down from the beginning that he could've won her heart (even without a ring). That's what's so upsetting to me I think about how Rachel has been portrayed. The reality is that Peter did not come on the show to win Rachel's heart. He was not ready for an engagement and he admits that now. She felt that Peter had commitment issues and him keeping his walls up didn't help her feel any better about them.This was Rachel's journey and she wanted love and a proposal. The irony of these shows is that if Peter had won her heart, they would've painted Bryan as the good guy with a pure heart who relentlessly pursued Rachel and that she chose the wishy washy one. I actually believe that is why a lot of these couples crumble. The show definitely doesn't set them up to succeed. People are so divided on this, I mean it is a hard divide because you really can find "evidence" to suggest that Peter was madly in love with Rachel and also find "evidence' to suggest that he was stringing her along. I get that Bryan was telling her everything she wanted to hear, but Peter was so inconsistent with her. Yes he was honest but there is such a thing as being too honest. Like telling the lead that you thought about going home? How could someone feel secure after hearing that? Peter raised doubt after doubt with her as time progressed. Peter was supposed to make her feel secure in his love for her and desperately want her to choose him. That is what the Bachelorette is about. Rachel was chasing him. Even though she felt like Bryan was the one, I still think she was holding out hope that Peter would open up during the Fantasy Suite. She always left him feeling confused and insecure. Relationships are difficult period. Some people know their spouse is the one for them the first day they meet, and for others it takes years. I started singing "Here comes the Bride" subconsciously 8 days into dating my husband lol. I don't even like that song:) Wishing you the best, really Michelle. The reality is no one really knows all that happened other than the people who were there. ABC showed us what they wanted us to see. I just wish ABC hadn't given Rachel such a desperate edit.
Please someone tell me the point of getting engaged after a few months and THEN getting to know each other & "not rushing it" ? I love Rachel but I truly believe she just wanted to skip the boyfriend part and cut to the ring part. But theyre sorta bf/gf right now because theyre not planning to marry anytime soon?! She really should be honest about that and just own it -- admit you just wanted a ring to flaunt and some arm candy. Peter had the right idea lol makes no sense 🙅
But he came on the show, angled to be bachelor on same show to date wait for it a gazillion more women and then was salty when he didn't get picked. That is super realistic. What a sane stable person would do. Please.
I know a lot of women who won't leave a man because they're afraid of not being able to be loved by any other man. So what they do is settle down for something small so what Rachel do was good , she knows what she wants out of life Peter won't give her an engagement 💍 she shouldn't stay with him , she's 31 I think she doesn't have this time in her hand 🤚 to play games. I think some of y'all women think you guys are HER let me tell y'all something it's her life , if she thinks that her gut say she should go with Bryan with all means. I never like Bryan since day 1 but I'm not with him I shouldn't be upset it's her life her choice .
Nehemie Jeun i agree with u. in real life you dont get to have a few guys date a few guys and be allowed to explore rel with several guys at once...she is in a unique and awesome situation so she matched herself with the guy that wanted what she wanted and cud see that all peter cud offer her was a long term boyfriend which she has had in the past.
there is no denying that obvious though she wished Peter would of been the guy proposing coz at the same time he she was inlove with Peter and wanted him or the breakup would not have been so emotional....she wouldnt of said i cnt say goodbye and she wud not of said whats gona change tomorw if i keep u on...u not gona propose. wen he offered to do it for her she knew tht wud suck becoZ the entire world would think its a pitty proposal i mean come on national tv and be dogged like that...how would u feel! a guy just askin to get married and not mean it....how awkward that wud of been for her. NO she loved 2 ppl....Peter was her 1st choice but at the end Bryan manned up and he proposed and she does love him so she accepted.
I definitely agree with everything said here! I was a huge Rachel and Peter supporter and was so sad watching their break up, still wishing it had been him at the end I understand now why Bryan was the last man standing...literally lol. I think a lot of Peter supporters including myself got too caught up in how good looking and humble Peter is and forgetting its about what Rachel wants. Yes we saw their connection and yes I believe she was in love with Peter as well but Rachel new what she wanted and didn't want to take the chance in being in a long term relationship and possibly having Peter say he is still not ready for marriage, had she picked him instead of Bryan. After watching the finale I was too caught up in not accepting the out come of Peter not engaged to Rachel and thinking Bryan was a huge mistake. I didn't really favor Bryan bc of his cockiness but at the end of the day, we don't personally know these people so we can't act like we know all about them from just what we see on TV.
Rewatching this now-This is the perfect example of a woman who listened carefully to what each man was saying and took the red flags as they are. Excellent choice! Bryan is HOT.
She made her choice because she fell for Bryan in the beginning of the show. She was secure in their love for each other. Peter was not the only guy she liked. Remember there was Eric, dean, Matt & adam. They all fell for Rachel. Bryan and her personality fit perfectly. Peter was trying to make a name for himself at the expense of Rachel. The show was about the Bachelorette, Rachel, not Peter. Yes he is a good looking guy but so is Bryan. Rachel found the love of her life, and we are happy for them.
Bryan was determined. Yes! Rachel made the right choice.
She shouldn't have to explain anything. People just love complicated relationships,Bryan was very direct about his intentions,and he acted as such, perfect choice.
Although Rachel cared more for Peter than she is willing to admit now...I applaud her for refusing his offer to propose just to keep from losing her...after all the tears walking away was the thing to do, it have never worked..Bryan was the right choice for her!
C Fitz Thank you!
Not refusing to see past Peter's bs. He was playing Rachel. Everything the guy said was contradicting. Then he wants her and then he isn't sure,whatever. It is frustrating and i feel bad for Rachel that she had to endure that. She knew Peter was dragging her along and she wanted to know why..so sad he's not man enough to say it
Lol, yes, but he had his first taste of Brown Skin. We should send him a copy of India Arie's song of the same name for comfort because he will be haunted by Rachel's love the rest of his life. Poor Peter.
I love her. I think she made the right choice. Peter was too damn wishy washy about EVERYTHING his own life. She deserves a man who is certaint about how he feels about her and she got it!
Ryan Moore Agreed!
Omg can y'all stop hating on Bryan. He was an obvious choice. Peter said multiple times he wasn't ready for an engagement and his relationship with Rachel wasn't as strong as her and Bryan's. so just stop just because your fave didn't "win"
Rachel is blinded by lust. She even called Byran a douchebag once and lots of people sense hes a player.
That to me is funny..a douchebag? But he got the first impression rose?
V why? he eat her face and 'feel in love 2 days in" i give it 6 month...
MonIIs Yosef everyone falls in love differently, haven't you heard love at first sight?
Britney Castro Most people's problem is not that she chose Bryan but she has been downplaying her relationship with Peter and assassinating his character when he has said nothing bad about her
Rachel chose who she wanted , not pleasing people
It seems like most of you commenters never watched the damn show. The whole time Rachel was googoo gaga over Bryan, not Peter or anyone else. I guess you saw the season finale only and decided the rest of the season goes into the trash. It's been obvious Rachel was going to pick Bryan for a long time now. Don't let the dramatics fool you.
CJ Modi I have watched the show for many years and read the spoilers. I knew she was picking Bryan and was happy for her
It's not about that, three months later and you are still resentful and bashing Peter, when she responds in that way it shows her as being petty and resentful.
Let's forget that she watched the 3hrs live finale in front of everyone and had Peter brought out before she even processed what she saw. There were things she had forgotten he said and there are things she didn't see until then. Plus with the way Bryan was hated all season just to uplift Peter, I don't blame her for reacting that way. Plus Peter had been liking negative comments about Bryan on instagram. Rachel is a straight shooter, she won't sugar-coat how she feels. It was important for her to let him know that her life is just fine.
I watched the show and saw it totally different. All I saw was Rachel crazy about Peter. People just see things differently.
@@destinychild4659 Who received the matching watches??? Who was informed of dates without date cards?? Who met Rachel friends?? Who was greeting hi baby by Rachel at his hometown??? Who received the first impression rose and give the first kiss??? Who received the best dates ever and the best fantasy suite???? THE ANSWER WAS BRYAN. GO BACK AND REWATCHED THE SHOW AGAIN.
Rachel is so likable! Funny, warm, witty and engaging. Most people disagree but I think they might actually make it. They both seem mature enough for a real adult relationship.
You go girl! Glad you did not settle for wishy washy Peter. You deserve what you want. Why did Peter join this show if he wasn't willing to propose? Thank you for showing America what we really fall for. Men with commitment issues. The truth is Peter played a game. Bryan was the pick for sure!
I don´t see him wishy washy. Or playing any games. Peter just wanted to be sure before he proposed. Totally smart and sane. Most relationships in Bachelor and Bachelorette don´t last. He was just being honest. They just weren´t right for each other.
Rachel is such a Beautiful and intelligent woman, and Bryan is a lucky man who stole her heart. They love each other, and I wish them well. All the HATERS ARE GONNA HATE. WHO CARES!
All of the responses below that believe that Peter was the one, have no understanding of non-verbal behavior. Neither do they understand that Rachel had to complete 10 episodes of The Bachelorette. Further more, Rachel never withheld the truth of wanting a husband. When any person dates they do and behave in the very same way that Rachel did. The difference is, it's done in an unusually quick and compressed way; with all the males in close proximity and in a relationship with the same guys that she's in. Yet I picked Bryan as soon as he came out of the limo and began speaking to her in Spanish. This black woman, me, knows what that walk meant after Bryan introduced himself. Hey they're still ENGAGED. Accept it, ya'll.
She sends home Eric, who's charming, handsome, has such a great heart, and who was ready to propose , but she keeps the guy who never wants to have genuine conversations without tonguing her down. Somebody please hand me a calculator cause this shit isn't adding up.
True, but Rachel saw Eric inexperience as far as being in an relationship since he never be in love, or never brought a girl home, so Rachel was like why should I hire you for a job, that you have no skills, or experience in.
Tori Kelly fan I agree. I thought I was the only who thought this.
+disiskrazy d Eric did say hes never been in love before, but he was Ready to get down on one knee because he truly wanted Rachel to be his wife. Rachel really was stupid for stringing him along only to break his heart. Josiah's right, she has bad judgement.
Tori Kelly fan agreeeeee
Tori Kelly fan that's because Bryan has more substance, confidence, character, passion, Intellect ,maturity and stability than Eric or any of the other contestants on Rachel's season. Eric was definitely a big NO. Lacked chemistry, maturity ,stability or professionalism. Never had a real gf.What was Rachel to do with him ? She was not looking for a bf only a husband . He definitely was not husband material . I just did not see him fitting into her social circle without feeling misplaced . Maybe in a few more years when has matured emotionally ,socio-economically and professionally he may meet his soul mate who is equal. In the mean time Rachel and Bryan
Rachel and Bryan forever
I am so happy and glad that her choice is making everyone look like salty little bitches, way to go, Rachel , I wish you a Happy life with who ever you CHOSE TO BE WITH.
Did she really just say that she was infatuated with Peter?!?!? Like is she foreal , everyone knows and could see this entire season that her entire relationship with Bryan was physical. Girl you couldn't even say bye to Peter!
Awsomenesss hahahhaha true talk for once she needs to be honest hopefully she doesn't forget
Infatuation is a hella of drug. It's hard to say goodbye.
thank you thank you thank youuuuuu! preach.
i wonder what Bryan will say when he finds out he was an after thought because Peter didnt want to propose to her; and how she boo hood because of it.
Yeah right. Bryan was the her first and her last, and was her prize at the end of this game baby. The man who excites her, and treated her like his QUEEN. Only a fool, would have given up Bryan.
She didn't see Peter as her husband??? Who was playing who?? I rest my case
Yah, wonder why she kept him around for so long then...
maybe that's what she told herself and now she believes it idk
Bryan is watching so she has to say all the right things but we all know she was head over hills over Peter.
She try to convince Peter to the very end to propose. Till he rejected her.
True and for some twisted reason, people STILL wanted her to choose him. I'm confused. She was rejected, period.the end.
She's the best bachelorette❤❤❤
This girl was begging Peter to propose right till the end... now she 'couldnt see him as her husband'???? Get outta here with that bullshit!!
DUDE!!! My jaws on the floor... she didnt want him to propose just to say no!!! WTF
Jozigal M ha ha ha ha Rachel has become a box of contradictions😄😄😄.
Hypocritical !!! Good luck woman with your fiancé and happy life. Congrats!!!
Exactly!!!!
Jozigal M hahahhaha right lol too much lies she is lying
Peter is unstable, and will not make a good Bachelor. Please bring Eric back! Time for a Black Bachelor!!!
Ivoire Rienna True it doesn't make sense why he would come on the show just to say he is not ready for marriage. He knows you are supposed to propose at the end of the show so why was he here? Now he wants to be the Bachelor? FOH Peter
I honestly don't see the hype with him. I'm glad Rachel didn't choose him, he came on this show with the intention of becoming the next bachelor, not Rachel's fiance. He made that pretty clear when he waited until the last minute to tell her he wasn't ready for an engagement.
Savannah Montana RIGHT? HE IS A SCAMMER. FUCK HIM. bryan is a great guy
I am with you Savannah. I'll admit I was on the pachel ship but in all honesty it was exhausting watching them so I could only imagine what it was like to actually be in it. I am glad she is happy.
Ivoire Rienna i can't stand eric. he just annoys me. i'd rather have kenny or anthony as the first black bachelor
I liked Peter but the problem is he was being realistic but what if he is actually a person who can never commit. Didn't he say he never told his ex his true feelings?
So she literally pushes someone, any chances she gets, into proposing to her but yet she doesn't see him as her husband ? She really shouldn't say anything at all when it comes to Peter because she looks stu-pid right now ! Whether she or her fiancé like it or not Peter was HER #1 choice he was just too much in his head. But yeah the proof is out there Rachel. I get it it's not a good look but it's been well documented that what she had with Peter was beyond infatuation.
kanyetothe Say he was her choice but was too much in his head, where does that leave her. She wanted to have a future and family and even his family said he was not ready. I think there was a bachelor in Australia who chose his final girl but did not propose, he felt it was not right and they broke up later. Australia was annoyed with his decision too.
@Al Wa Well said!
I respect her choice!!
Isn't Geneva where she had her date with Bryan and bought him the watch and then Bryan came home bragged about it and made Peter question his relationship with Rachel, after which she had her date with Peter who probably was reacting to the whole watch thing and that's why he seemed to pull away and not "know what he wants"?
Asi am yessss
So why is it so hard for people to believe that she was more into bryan.
Because most people are truly dense - ergo Trump being elected for president. At the core of it common sense is not common. They mad that she did all that for and with Bryan but it was not enough for them to see that maybe just maybe she did all that because she was more into him. Lots of dull people walking the streets.
Excuse me? Which show did you watch? Bryan bragged? When and where? On the show I watched, when Bryan came in from the date, someone remarked that he had returned and he asked if his return was unexpected. Then he was asked to describe everything about his day including why he was dressed the way he was. He started doing so and someone interjected with questions about the watch. He was specifically asked if Rachel had purchased the watch. He responded truthfully with no inflection whatsoever.
Making excuses for a grown men
I want a refund 😒
LOL
Bob Gand agreeeee hahaha
What do you guys mean,, you can tell how sad she was on her dates with Peter after talking to her in geneva, lol! Makes sense she started thinking he was not the one..lolol
Wait....didnt she say she went in to his room to get rid if him....but wasn't it Peter who toldher that they should go their seperate ways and she started crying and didnt want to leave. But now she wants to act like she kicked him to the curb for Bryan; but truly she had no choice because Peter told her that he wasn't bending!!! But he will do it for her. Of course she was really scared that if she sent Bryan home Peter was not going to fall through .
Uh what choice? She didn't have one 😂😂😂
suzyfreak she did- she chose to send Peter home rather than pining after him endlessly waiting for him to decide he wanted to settle down. she always said she wanted a man who knows what he wants and wants what she wants WITH her
Vroxzz Roxz He told her to go be with that person... My point was it was a mutual decision to end it and between her and Peter, she didn't actually chose to send him home now she's trying to make it sound like he never mattered and she chose Bryan over him changing the narrative... It's good she got the person who wanted what she wanted right now but no need to try and play Peter
suzyfreak fair point
suzyfreak but everyone who has ever been heartbroken is guilty of revisionist history. it's how you get over someone - you tell yourself they were never the one and back it up with evidence that wasn't relevant when you wanted it to work but suddenly becomes the reason y things would have never worked out
Vroxzz Roxz I totally agree, we are all revisionists after getting hurt but she's being extreme with it, I mean seriously she's badmouthing him more since yesterday than she's talking about her engagement,making sure he doesn't become the next bachelor, you'd think he'd been saying bad things about her since it ended but he's constantly been defending her on social media,I would have thought that would lessen the hurt even a little bit ...and I'd think part of revising history was acting like it never happened, letting go and focusing on the "positive"...idk she's been a class act until now maybe expecting her to remain the same isn't realistic
Gurl Peter was an actor for the show....
What song is that when she was dancing with Dean
She got me FUCKED UP. I could say the same thing about her and Bryan being infatuated. What she had with Peter was real life shit, all Bryan did was kiss her and kept telling her everything she wanted to hear. If they last longer than 2 years I'll shut up forever with this. Until then, I'm still heated that she keeps denying what she had with Peter.
Bryan was consistent in all in action, while Peter was wishy washy. Every week Peter change his tune.
You are not in Rachel's head. Only her knows how she felt and feels.
Well, I guess it’s time to move right along.
They’re heading to the 4th year.
she got rid of all the choco and went straight for the 'nilla
Good interview
I cannot believe Rachel's stunning success with the show.
I also think peter was intimidated by Rachel !
Julie True that
Girrrrl you were literally begging Peter to put a ring on it. It was embarrassing but what's even worse is her denying that she chose the "sloppy seconds" haha
If She knew Bryan was the one all along why was she still trying to convince Peter to propose the night before the proposal? So Rachel you mean to tell us you wanted Peter to propose just so you can tell him no the next day. GOOD FUCKIN BYE GIRL
She's full of it. Rachel followed the ring. If she didn't see him as the one; why was she so upset about him not proposing. She just settled for Bryan. Y'all forgot Bryan he went on a show called the player. Don't come for peter.
Someone better should've had peter spot / peter wanted nothing
I'm still NOT sensing an emotional connection between her and Bryan.
Sweetpea think again
You don't have to it is not your relationship
Rachel and Bryan got married on August 24th, 2019!!!
I just don't get it. I understand that she wanted a proposal but what's more important: being proposed to by a fake and someone who only cares about her physically, OR someone who wants to take that time and get to know you 100% before making that commitment?? Shit doesn't even make sense. She was blinded by the thought of a proposal and I feel sorry for her. Peter OBVIOUSLY had strong feelings for her, AND her for him! I don't believe half the crap that is coming out of her mouth and I don't think she does either. I rest my case.
Stephanie Goettner ... I totally 100% agree with you on everything you said because it's exactly the same I've been thinking too! You don't just turn your feelings off and on like a light switch and marry anyone who will propose to you like it's a game. Peter was the REAL DEAL because you could actually FEEL his best intentions come through every time they were together. For some reason I too feel that Rachel chose Bryan because he was a second choice and she was infatuated with him because he really liked her or loved her and she loved that as well as him being "Latin" which most women swoon for big time! Anyway, I too feel that she should have waited and gave Peter the time he needed and say the heck with them all IF she was REALLY in love with him too but she didn't give them enough time to really get to know each other and wanted that proposal and marriage so bad that she was willing to forgo probably the best man in her life she will ever come across who REALLY and TRULY loves her! I don't see her and Bryan lasting whether still dating or in marriage. With Peter I feel that was her true equal and a best friend but oh well ... her bad! You live and learn and by then it's too late.
EmeraldJade66 agree agree agree!! Me and my boyfriend watch the show together and even he was saying how Peter was the obvious choice. A proposal means nothinggggggg if the true love isn't there. Peter understands that but Rachel was just so blinded!! I was watching interviews and she literally said in an interview that she was infatuated with PETER!! Like what??? Everything with Bryan was purely physical I can't even believe she said that
Stephanie Goettner ... Exactly!!! Right there with ya again girl! And great that your guy was watching with you :) ... It can be a little addictive to say the least :D ... but yeah I really agree with you that Peter was totally the obvious choice and was totally ready for marriage but just didn't want to rush into right away. Look at what Rachel and Bryan are doing now ... just dating and she even said in an interview that there will be no wedding date set for this year anyway cause they are having way too much fun dating. Right! WRONG!!!!! Geez!! Unreal!! Nah! It's all fake and she's fake! She's the one who doesn't really know what she wants! If she did she would've had her head on straight and picked the RIGHT guy (Peter). You can tell he's even way more mature in his thinking and actions by far than Bryan. Bryan comes across to me as a "player" and a good one at that. It won't last with those two. The newness will wear off quick then what? See ya!! With Peter, even after the newness wore off he would STILL be exactly the same as he was on the show and giving his love day and night to this girl. Yeah it was all physical for sure and based solely on lust and looks. Like I said, he's a latino/brazilian and women love and are drawn to that "exotic spark" never mind it doesn't usually last for the man cause he's so into himself knowing women are falling all over him. Really it's all sad. Oh well .. she had her man but she chose the wrong path. Karma is a bitch. Pray it works for them but I truly have my doubts based on everything from the show. Best for Peter to say goodbye to the likes of her and move on! He deserves MUCH better! Wish him the best of luck always. He's such a beautiful man inside and out.
Wow so I guess we were not watching the same show then? You all are a bunch of delusional cows if you could not see that Peter had been cold and distant since Geneva. The last couple of dates between them were TEDIOUS. Their body language was off, kisses were forced and Peter was literally pushing her her away. Now the one variable I am unable to control for is the fact that Rachel, being fully aware that it turned out that he was just not that into her, still wanted to pull something out of him. That I would readily admit I don't get. She knew this man ain't want her but perhaps because of her admitted infatuation/ attraction to him she was in denial. But in the end c'mon it was clear Peter was not in love, in fact I don't think he liked her. GO back to their videos, his body language everything was off with her but he was in too deep and not man enough to eject himself when he very well could have seeing he had the upper hand in the relationship because that is what decent men do. Contestants of this so called sleazy show have had the balls to do so in the post but not Peter. He is the lowest of the low, a sleazeball. He had to see it to an end to get his bachelor gig so he could go on and do exactly what he swore he could never do with Rachel. Give me a break. Stevie wonder could see she had to ask and plead for kisses. What man would hesitate to kiss a woman he claims he was falling in love with? Again I would admit, I don't understand why she didn't let him go sooner, I can only think, hmm sleight of the producers' hand? Ratings ploy due to the Bachelornation white flight from her season? Hmmm
You hit the proverbial nail on its head, Clickmama.. The franchise prevented her from sending him off in Geneva. They waned drama and suspense so she provided what they wanted because she'd have her heart's desire in the end.
haha she would say no to Peter??hahaha she is soooo trying to convince herself that
Her relationship with peter was wayyyyy beyond infatuation
Rachel said she's trying to be nice lol too bad nick and vanessa announced that they ended their engagement today!
So my question is.. Did she send him the invitation to the wedding??
RACHEL IS SPITTING LIES
Emily Jackson! Faster than she can breath!!!
Emily Jackson and you would know of course.
BIBI OMOLOU. NAILED IT
Emily Jackson I´m sure you´re always honest about EVERYTHING(side eye)
I'm sure you have changed your statement since your boy is a fboy
Peter is better off without her. thank God. all the things she said after the show to defends her decision . #snake
OHHH MY GOOOD RACHEL...you are so hurt by the fact peter didnt want to propose thats unbelivable... why are you talking so nasty about him... never in a million years you would have said NO to peter...NEVER... Iam sooo glad he is not with you...please stop lying...
Good thing she didn't pick Peter the snoozefest
Smh such a disappointment!
Rachel Lindsay may have the gift of gabbing, BUT she's been trained this way and I would NEVER hire her as my lawyer. She hardly can defend herself !! She's such a self-righteous black woman !!
Zero chance she'd be with Bryan right now if Peter would have married her.
Is he still cynical that interviewer guy?
It's kind of sad how she's the first black bachelorette and yet, her choice was the most disappointing for me.
She could not even stop kissing Peter nor did she wanted to tell him bye .i think she was in love with Peter but she realized Bryan was ready to love her ,so she picked the one who knew what he wanted .
I know a lot of women who won't leave a man because they're afraid of not being able to be loved by any other man. So what they do is settle down for something small so what Rachel do was good , she knows what she wants out of life Peter won't give her an engagement 💍 she shouldn't stay with him , she's 31 I think she doesn't have this time in her hand 🤚 to play games. I think some of y'all women think you guys are HER let me tell y'all something it's her life , if she thinks that her gut say she should go with Bryan with all means. I never like Bryan since day 1 but I'm not with him I shouldn't be upset it's her life her choice .
Girl stopppp.. Smh
Pathetic, she had no option but to choose second best, she was desperate not to disappoint the viewers, it can't last... Peter was obviously her first choice, I wonder what Bryan thinks after watching the last episode and all of this after going to bed with all three of them so did Rachel actually compare them sexually, makes you think?
Hermann Kohler and she kind of admits it here, if Peter had been ready to propose she would have picked him
She's like we've been dating for three months and it's going great 😒 just like you were in a bubble on the show you haven't been able to spend time in public together, it's still not the "real thing"
By pinning her happiness on a ring, and trying too hard to get Peter to produce one
And then by process of elimination left with only one Colombian sleazeball
Peter had a girlfriend back home Rachel dodged a bullet.
Damn! Peter is foine!!!
Hello, out there I am texting this message via YT. I am still on the Pachel train, people are still on. The police have just cut off our ability to make outgoing calls from the train. There are news helicopters hoovering above the train. We have a hostage squad in the woods with bullhorns telling us to get off the train. We negotiated to have Eric bring food and water to the diabetics, it is all on CNN, lol
How naïve! Did she actually say Bryan proved himself to her? Can anyone tell me how one "proves" himself in a matter of weeks, months, even. It can take years of being married already, for spouses to "prove" themselves.I think Rachel still has much to learn!
Good,Peter for the next bachellor
He would be a hypocrite if he took the bachelor gig! He frowned upon the process not Rachel. So if he took it, it would confirm that he is a scammer because the bachelor is on the same timeline.
mami elena he could possibly join the next Bachelor in Paradise. People don't have to engage when they leave so he can have a normal relationship
I agree a thousand times.
Rachel why do have to lie lie like that! i just don´t get it.
After this Mom of his sees the Peter ordeal Watchout !!!!!!
She is not trust worthy at all. Peter and Eric can do much better!
Rachel chose well! Peter didn't wanted her to chose him.
I don't see the engagement last, Rachel i feel for you i still see you with PETER, no one can cheat feeligs
so she isn't getting married for at least a year? all that gay hype of an engagement for what? to still wait? okay smart move ding don't in passing up peter who would have I'm sure been ready by a year and dashing incredible eric wow she is off her rocker fake fake
Peter, she was not worth your time, there's a good woman out there for you.
Her relationship will end because a ring doesn't mean forever. Even though Peter didn't propose he still wanted to be with her. Just because Bryan proposed with a ring the show bought......doesn't mean he will stick around. She's a LIAR!!!! She really is. Peter is the winner in this situation!!! Run buddy and be glad u dodged a bullet with this one!!! Cray Cray!!! SMH
Tracey Pugh He has stuck around and he us still making her a priority. Bryan is following through with his promises
Excuse me but what about a woman wanting a man thats not wishy washy knows what he wants is “cray cray”? @Tracy Pugh
One year later they are still together and look really happy. People were conned by the editing of the show. I love how people go “she is a liar” yet they only watch 1hr a week of a show and decide what is good for her.
She was brought together by God to MEET Peter. BRIAN is a HUGE player. PETER IS A wonderful man. Yes you did expect THAT. You had everything rehearsed RACHEL. BULL CRAP.But you refused to see BRIANS BS!!!
Then Peter should have pursued her. I can't with putting all of this on Rachel like Peter was the prize. He should've been focused on her and more intentional with her. But he wasn't and that's on him not her. I really don't think Peter ever wanted to marry her. He says it out of his own mouth in the ESPN Wisconsin interview that he went on that show for exposure and the adventure of a lifetime and to meet people. And I just saw an interview with him posted today from I Heart Radio saying that he would absolutely be the Bachelor if the time was right and he was offered it again. If engagement is marriage and he only wants to do it once and he didn't want to do it with Rachel... People keep saying that Rachel chose a ring over true love. But why can't they accept that Peter chose the possibility of being The Bachelor over true love? It wasn't until hometowns when Peter was still dragging his feet and things had progressed so far with Bryan that she thought Bryan was the one. Peter was all walls walls and more walls. He absolutely could have had her if he had gone all in. Their first date was everything. He chose to pull away and he's the one that lost her. Only time will tell what Bryan's true character is. But from what he's shone, he absolutely adores Rachel and he already liked her before he even met her from watching her on Nick's season. Why should Rachel has trusted someone who refused to go all in with her?
Kay Monay Honey ;can i ask you a personal question?
Do you have a daughter
He did say that he would never propose without meeting ;both her mom and her dad .I used to be a therapist; and i was also trained as I too worked in both Provincial Court and Federal Court
I see Rachel's eyes pleading for Peter to say that he was ready. Right then and there
I to see engagement as a direct reflection of marriage as well. He said "I LOVE YOU SO MUCH "
CAN YOU PLEASE TRUST ME?
ALL HE WANTED WAS TO SEE HOW THE 2 OF THEM WOULD MESH WITH HIS/ HER FAMILIES AND FRIEND'S. AS SHE RAN INTO HIS ARM'S; THOSE TEARS AS SHE SMILED AND SAID THAT SHE IS AND HAS/ A LICENCE TO PRACTICE IN WISCONSIN.
SEE SHE ALREADY KNEW AFTER SPEAKING TO PETERS MOM
IS HE READY TO MARRY NOW? NO
IT'S TO SOON. 1-10 COUPLES DON'T LAST 7 YRS. HE SAID TRUST ME AND HE WINKED. PERSONALLY I THINK THAT PETER LOVED HER SOOOOU MUCH. AND THAT BEING SAID; I HONESTLY THINK/ KNOW THAT PETER HIMSELF SAID WTF. HE WAS SKEPTICAL TOO. I SAW THE WAY HE INTERACTED WITH HER MOM
I PROMISE YOU M LINDSAY IF I DON'T SEE MYSELF AND RACHEL AS THE ONE; O PROMISE YOU THAT I DO HAVE RACHEL'S BEST INTEREST AT HEART
RACHEL FAMILY SAW RIGHT THROUGH BRIAN. BUT IF SHE'S HAPPY THEN I'M HAPPY. ALL HE WANTED WAS A SOME TIME IN THE REAL WORLD
SHE WAS PISSED OFF HOPING FOR PETER TO CHANGE HIS MIND. 9 WEEK'S AND A HANDFUL OF DATES. SHE FELT MORE PRESSURE AS 1ST B WOMAN
PLUS SHE WAS SCARED OF NOT GETTING A PROPOSAL. IT WOULD HAVE EMBARRASSED HER TOO
ONE THING THAT I WILLSAY IS MEN, IF A WOMAN WANTS KIDS. THEM A YR OFDATING AND ANOTHER YR FOR MARRIAGE
GETTING PREGNANT NATURALLY GUYS FOR WOMEN DROPS 60- 78% AFTER THE AGE OF 35. BUT IF THEY HAVE PROBLEMS IT'S EVEN HARDER. THERE'S A TEST NOW FOR WOMEN TO SAY HOW MANY EGGS SHE HAS LEFT.
I actually do have a daughter, and I believe whole heartedly that had Peter gone all in with her and put his walls down from the beginning that he could've won her heart (even without a ring). That's what's so upsetting to me I think about how Rachel has been portrayed. The reality is that Peter did not come on the show to win Rachel's heart. He was not ready for an engagement and he admits that now. She felt that Peter had commitment issues and him keeping his walls up didn't help her feel any better about them.This was Rachel's journey and she wanted love and a proposal. The irony of these shows is that if Peter had won her heart, they would've painted Bryan as the good guy with a pure heart who relentlessly pursued Rachel and that she chose the wishy washy one. I actually believe that is why a lot of these couples crumble. The show definitely doesn't set them up to succeed.
People are so divided on this, I mean it is a hard divide because you really can find "evidence" to suggest that Peter was madly in love with Rachel and also find "evidence' to suggest that he was stringing her along. I get that Bryan was telling her everything she wanted to hear, but Peter was so inconsistent with her. Yes he was honest but there is such a thing as being too honest. Like telling the lead that you thought about going home? How could someone feel secure after hearing that? Peter raised doubt after doubt with her as time progressed. Peter was supposed to make her feel secure in his love for her and desperately want her to choose him. That is what the Bachelorette is about. Rachel was chasing him. Even though she felt like Bryan was the one, I still think she was holding out hope that Peter would open up during the Fantasy Suite. She always left him feeling confused and insecure.
Relationships are difficult period. Some people know their spouse is the one for them the first day they meet, and for others it takes years. I started singing "Here comes the Bride" subconsciously 8 days into dating my husband lol. I don't even like that song:)
Wishing you the best, really Michelle. The reality is no one really knows all that happened other than the people who were there. ABC showed us what they wanted us to see. I just wish ABC hadn't given Rachel such a desperate edit.
Kay Monay 👏👏👏
Errr no god had nothing to do with it. How can you say Peter is a wonderfully man, you only know him from what you see in edited TV slots.
This show is a joke
Please someone tell me the point of getting engaged after a few months and THEN getting to know each other & "not rushing it" ? I love Rachel but I truly believe she just wanted to skip the boyfriend part and cut to the ring part. But theyre sorta bf/gf right now because theyre not planning to marry anytime soon?! She really should be honest about that and just own it -- admit you just wanted a ring to flaunt and some arm candy. Peter had the right idea lol makes no sense 🙅
But he came on the show, angled to be bachelor on same show to date wait for it a gazillion more women and then was salty when he didn't get picked. That is super realistic. What a sane stable person would do. Please.
Damage control about Peter.
Choice for the bling bling.
Do we think it's possible Bryan's gay??
PETER WOULD MAKE A PERFECT BACHELOR>PLEASE.
I know a lot of women who won't leave a man because they're afraid of not being able to be loved by any other man. So what they do is settle down for something small so what Rachel do was good , she knows what she wants out of life Peter won't give her an engagement 💍 she shouldn't stay with him , she's 31 I think she doesn't have this time in her hand 🤚 to play games. I think some of y'all women think you guys are HER let me tell y'all something it's her life , if she thinks that her gut say she should go with Bryan with all means. I never like Bryan since day 1 but I'm not with him I shouldn't be upset it's her life her choice .
Nehemie Jeun i agree with u. in real life you dont get to have a few guys date a few guys and be allowed to explore rel with several guys at once...she is in a unique and awesome situation so she matched herself with the guy that wanted what she wanted and cud see that all peter cud offer her was a long term boyfriend which she has had in the past.
there is no denying that obvious though she wished Peter would of been the guy proposing coz at the same time he she was inlove with Peter and wanted him or the breakup would not have been so emotional....she wouldnt of said i cnt say goodbye and she wud not of said whats gona change tomorw if i keep u on...u not gona propose. wen he offered to do it for her she knew tht wud suck becoZ the entire world would think its a pitty proposal i mean come on national tv and be dogged like that...how would u feel! a guy just askin to get married and not mean it....how awkward that wud of been for her. NO she loved 2 ppl....Peter was her 1st choice but at the end Bryan manned up and he proposed and she does love him so she accepted.
I definitely agree with everything said here! I was a huge Rachel and Peter supporter and was so sad watching their break up, still wishing it had been him at the end I understand now why Bryan was the last man standing...literally lol. I think a lot of Peter supporters including myself got too caught up in how good looking and humble Peter is and forgetting its about what Rachel wants. Yes we saw their connection and yes I believe she was in love with Peter as well but Rachel new what she wanted and didn't want to take the chance in being in a long term relationship and possibly having Peter say he is still not ready for marriage, had she picked him instead of Bryan. After watching the finale I was too caught up in not accepting the out come of Peter not engaged to Rachel and thinking Bryan was a huge mistake. I didn't really favor Bryan bc of his cockiness but at the end of the day, we don't personally know these people so we can't act like we know all about them from just what we see on TV.
You sound fckng stupid..don't open your mouth again b**** your role is in the kitchen!
mdiallo07
Choice for the bling bling.