Personally i like the idea of King In Black taking place during the multiverse saga. This way after the reboot i can have a ground level Spider-Man story
Dude......a Spiderman 4 with Mephisto making a deal with Peter to get his reality back, possibly ending with a Keanu Reeves Ghost Rider getting sent after Peter for backing out of the deal. EPIC 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Maybe Marvel should just live up to expectations again. Especially after the last 5 years and now getting closer to a reboot. These things like bring Chris Evans back should have already been done and been a plot line for Cap 4.
@@HhhLll-ey8nx They could have the best of both worlds. Have it set in Battleworld, but isolated with a bunch of Spidey villains teaming up against him on Battleworld
Agreed. This is the nature of the content creator business. A significant portion of these videos consists of people deliberately slowing down their speech or over-explaining points just to stretch the content to hit the 10-minute mark for better monetization. Moreover, it’s in their best interest for franchises like Marvel to succeed. If the Marvel movies start to flop, the hype around them will diminish, and with it, the audience’s interest in their content. After all, many creators thrive on reviewing, analyzing, and speculating about these blockbuster films. If the product loses its appeal, the creators lose a significant portion of their relevance and engagement. It’s a self-sustaining cycle where the success of the movies directly feeds into the success of the creators.
Ghost rider is on "the Ark" in Doomsday. So when the ark heroes/tva pick up the surviving avengers toward the end of the movie they'll all get trapped in the revamped void/battle world. Which is where Spidey 4 takes place. So no suprise that Ghost rider would be in that movie as well. Expect a couple more spidermen also.
Bro these "leaks " about Spiderman 4 are getting out of control. First it's a grounded story with Daredevil, then it's multiversal with the Spider Boys, then it's Venom and Knull...
I can see ghost rider going to hit Peter with the stare and being surprised that nothing happens and going from there they become allies and so begins dooms day
Honestly, Spiderman has so many villains & stories, that I actually think it'd be much more economical to have Spidey do his own TV series, while his movies are saved for bigger stories with some crossovers w other characters. I.e. they could do a "Spiderman vs Daredevil" TV series & I think it would be great, while getting a chance to use villains like, Scorpion, Rhino, Chameleon, Kraven, Tombstone & Kingpin as main villains but have other minor villains like Beetle, without overcrowding the series. Then the next Spiderman movie could be the King in Black/Symbiote story, or an OFFICIAL Sinister 6 movie.
@stonalisa3729 No, Mac Gargan is in Homecoming but never did anything remotely Scorpion with him nor that post credits scene with him locked up with Vulture, never did anything with it.....
Since Sony like sucks at spider man movies let’s just let Marvel handle the ideals about spider man’s plot. Lesser of two evils but better track record.
Not a comic book guy here, so maybe I'm missing something, but seems like a whole lotta councils going around (Kang, Reed, Red/Mephisto, etc...). Is that a thing in the comics? Or is MCU taking liberties?
I don’t mean to be a pessimist, but I’m not down with any of this. I don’t need Doom, or Knull, or Mephisto, Ghost Rider, Venom, Daredevil or any of it. Just make a decent grounded Spider-Man movie. No Way Home set up the perfect story. Don’t be Sony, Marvel!
I honestly really hate this like I’m fine with it being on a new reality and having venom in there and possibly Andrew Garfield Spider-Man, but I feel like this is too much at this point
They have to introduce Maphisto it goes hand and hand with the Dr doom being sent to earth 616 I believe doom tries to save his mothers soul from hell having to do a deal with maphisto Now that’s off topic I think it’s a marvel team up fasho Mabey even getting a variation of cosmic ghost rider in the secret wars and in secret wars i think Spider-Man gets his black suit back It’s so much going on these next few movies they can’t mess this up
People... Come on. All the new Marvel stuff has been bad partly from all the fan service they add to em. Looks like they're not learning their lesson and doing it again. This isn't how you make good projects.
Dont get me wrong, but having knull, the ghost rider, venom, garfield spiderman, daredevil, mephisto, king ping and the entire multiverse in a movie, does not make it a good movie. The story matters, the script.
Brand new day was the worst comic booked storyline in history. Spider-Man would never sell his soul. Basically to the devil. To bring his Aunt May back. Absurd
Spiderman, Knull, Symbiotes, Ghost Rider, Mephisto..set in MCU.....and KEANU REEVES in the same movie?! I'm already SOLD! still I'll take it with a huuugggee pinch of salt.....but then I concerns...on how will they will make it all work out? will the execution be as perfect as it sounds?! Something tells me, that its not going to be Ghost Rider as in Johnny Blaze or Spirit of Vengeance....it could be perhaps maybe......Ghost Spider?
Again, a Spiderman movie in the MCU were it's a cameo driven film. Proves that Tom Holland is shit and can't hold up a movie on his own, and if you disagree, then fair enough, but Spiderman homecoming it's ironman, Spiderman far from home it's about Ironmans death, No Way Home it's a spot fest of cameos and now Ghostrider!
@stonalisa3729 He's been saying he is heavily involved in the script. Ali turned down countless blade scripts cause they were shit! If your trilogy, the cameos, or the story (ironmans death) outshines, the character arc of Spiderman shows either Holland acting was weak or the script was terrible. Holland has ruined Spiderman and Nathan Drake for me.
Nothing with KEANU is set in stone yet. He will be in STAR WARS amd lets hope KEANU IS GHOST RIDER. ALL THIS SPECULATION IS NAUSEATING 😂WHAT IF MEPHISTO IS DR. DOOM, and they are all on BATTLEWORLD! 😂
I was really hoping they Had Robbie Reyes Ghostrider from Agents Of Shield, Not mad at Keanu Also seems like Sony Wants to Asd too much into this Spider-Man Movie, they gonna fukk it up
@@Jason-it5kz Robbie Reyes kinda has a horrible backstory tho. If anything they should just use Robby as the main Rider but give him Johnny's backstory
@@IndianaJake Robbie’s bad backstory has been fixed though, he was given a proper spirit of vengeance and johnny took him under his wing. I hated the character when he first debuted because of the backstory having nothing to do with the spirits of vengeance but they’ve pretty much retconned that. Besides, the MCU has a track record of not following the comics too closely. Even agents of shield used Robbie Reyes with a weird backstory of Johnny turning him into a ghost rider for some reason (which made no sense lol)
1 story line. Not multiverse based. 1 villain. Preferably one that's not shared the big screen with Spidey before. Tombstone or someone. Focus on the film in hand and not how the movies going to link to films down the line. Don't over stuff the movie. Make the movie good!
"Focus on the film in hand and not how the movies are going to link" Is why we are in the situation we are in currently with the MCU. Because nothing is linked or makes sense. She-Hulk, Secret Invasion, etc all focused on the project at hand and not the future. Yes it should be focused on the show/movie but you gotta keep it balanced. Atleast have SOMETHING that is gonna push the overall story foward. This is a franchise after all.
@hamsterrwrld6767 I wasn't referring to the tv shows. I mean, have an after credit scene or something. But just to focus on the movie we're watching instead of making it all convoluted . Still personally think they've yet to make a perfect Spider-man film. Spider-man 2 came the closest I reckon
Honestly not mad about Ghost Rider being introduced in Spider-Man 4. The team up would be sick asf.
Personally i like the idea of King In Black taking place during the multiverse saga. This way after the reboot i can have a ground level Spider-Man story
Dude......a Spiderman 4 with Mephisto making a deal with Peter to get his reality back, possibly ending with a Keanu Reeves Ghost Rider getting sent after Peter for backing out of the deal. EPIC 🔥🔥🔥🔥
That actually sounds cool
Dont let speculation become expectation.
Maybe Marvel should just live up to expectations again. Especially after the last 5 years and now getting closer to a reboot. These things like bring Chris Evans back should have already been done and been a plot line for Cap 4.
dude you're always preaching to people in a cringey way
Make. It. Street. Level. Goddamn it, Sony!!! I'm so over their universe, right now.
Just gotta accept that it's not possible. It comes out right after doomsday. Spiderman 5 will be street
How tf can they make streat level movie if the multiverse is getting destroyed?
@HhhLll-ey8nx same way they do in the comics. The multiverse gets remade by Franklin and Reed Richard's at the end of secret wars
@@HhhLll-ey8nx They could have the best of both worlds. Have it set in Battleworld, but isolated with a bunch of Spidey villains teaming up against him on Battleworld
Street level in the middle of the last phase of the MULTIVERSE saga never made sense to me.
honestly after Dr Strange multiverse of madness , I can’t deal with rumors or the hype. The hype made the movie itself a big disappointment ….
Agreed. This is the nature of the content creator business. A significant portion of these videos consists of people deliberately slowing down their speech or over-explaining points just to stretch the content to hit the 10-minute mark for better monetization. Moreover, it’s in their best interest for franchises like Marvel to succeed. If the Marvel movies start to flop, the hype around them will diminish, and with it, the audience’s interest in their content. After all, many creators thrive on reviewing, analyzing, and speculating about these blockbuster films. If the product loses its appeal, the creators lose a significant portion of their relevance and engagement. It’s a self-sustaining cycle where the success of the movies directly feeds into the success of the creators.
Never seen someone who loves the word “INSANE” more
I know right! It's insane 😁
They are setting up Symbiote Spiderman to cameo in Midnight Suns. Called it!
You're 100% wrongm
Ghost rider is on "the Ark" in Doomsday. So when the ark heroes/tva pick up the surviving avengers toward the end of the movie they'll all get trapped in the revamped void/battle world. Which is where Spidey 4 takes place. So no suprise that Ghost rider would be in that movie as well. Expect a couple more spidermen also.
probably where we see Hulk vs Wolverine
Bro these "leaks " about Spiderman 4 are getting out of control. First it's a grounded story with Daredevil, then it's multiversal with the Spider Boys, then it's Venom and Knull...
And the last movie went through all those same rumors and even more. I remember when Deadpool was supposed to be in No Way Home according to scoopers.
Stop with your Mephisto talk it’s always wrong 😂
yesss keanu reaves being in the MCU is just what i needed💯💯💯👌🏼 what a great pick for ghost rider!
I agree 👍 I’m glad it’s not Nick Cage!
This is going to be awesome….. Spider-man, Venom and Ghost Rider…..
Good to hear about Ghost Rider, hope they get it right..as long as we don’t get Nick Cage!
It's Nick Cage. On battle world. You'll see
I don't understand how anyone other than Norman Reedus makes sense to people as GR.
Nick Cage would be the best his previous movies were a Segway into the MCU era. He deserves a send off.
“Im pretty confident” = have no clue 😂✌🏻
Keanu Reeves as Ghost Rider would be incredible!
MARVEL, Starwars, Keanu doesn't want you. . . Let it go already.....
No one is ever happy in spidey fandom. I LOVE THIS IDEA!!!!
If it's not Nick Cage, I don't want it.
It is. On Battleworld.
I can see ghost rider going to hit Peter with the stare and being surprised that nothing happens and going from there they become allies and so begins dooms day
What MCU project since Wandavision hasn't been rumored to feature Mephisto?
Just confirmed, ITS NICHOLAS CAGE that's returning as GHOST RIDER!
Honestly, Spiderman has so many villains & stories, that I actually think it'd be much more economical to have Spidey do his own TV series, while his movies are saved for bigger stories with some crossovers w other characters. I.e. they could do a "Spiderman vs Daredevil" TV series & I think it would be great, while getting a chance to use villains like, Scorpion, Rhino, Chameleon, Kraven, Tombstone & Kingpin as main villains but have other minor villains like Beetle, without overcrowding the series.
Then the next Spiderman movie could be the King in Black/Symbiote story, or an OFFICIAL Sinister 6 movie.
wasn't scorpion already in the movies?
@stonalisa3729 No, Mac Gargan is in Homecoming but never did anything remotely Scorpion with him nor that post credits scene with him locked up with Vulture, never did anything with it.....
I think some rumors got mixed up here. The talk is of Nick Cage returning as GR in Secret Wars.
Nerdvengers 4 Life!
I think i would be crazy unfair not to give Nicholas Cage his send off. At least give him a reference like the cavalrine
this would be cool
Awesome
Yes 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hasn’t Daniel RPK since “walked back” his Ghost Rider thing as just a random gif he posted?
0:16 OMg not him 😆
I still think Norman Reedus should play Ghost Rider.
Since Sony like sucks at spider man movies let’s just let Marvel handle the ideals about spider man’s plot. Lesser of two evils but better track record.
Not a comic book guy here, so maybe I'm missing something, but seems like a whole lotta councils going around (Kang, Reed, Red/Mephisto, etc...). Is that a thing in the comics? Or is MCU taking liberties?
the council of Reeds and Kangs exist in the comics. i haven’t heard of the Red one though
It's too much and too many characters already.. are we ever gonna get a pure Spider-Man street level movie?
They don’t know they’re doing with this movie.. hopefully it shakes out
I don’t mean to be a pessimist, but I’m not down with any of this. I don’t need Doom, or Knull, or Mephisto, Ghost Rider, Venom, Daredevil or any of it. Just make a decent grounded Spider-Man movie. No Way Home set up the perfect story. Don’t be Sony, Marvel!
I honestly really hate this like I’m fine with it being on a new reality and having venom in there and possibly Andrew Garfield Spider-Man, but I feel like this is too much at this point
Nicholas Cage is Ghost Rider. Not Keanu.
Exile scoopers Kang Dynasty script is really good even if it’s not real!
They have to introduce Maphisto it goes hand and hand with the Dr doom being sent to earth 616
I believe doom tries to save his mothers soul from hell having to do a deal with maphisto
Now that’s off topic I think it’s a marvel team up fasho
Mabey even getting a variation of cosmic ghost rider in the secret wars and in secret wars i think Spider-Man gets his black suit back
It’s so much going on these next few movies they can’t mess this up
They said over 70 characters in these next few movies so I’m looking. Forward to some new big names
Especially the return of bad mfs like SPAWN
People... Come on. All the new Marvel stuff has been bad partly from all the fan service they add to em. Looks like they're not learning their lesson and doing it again. This isn't how you make good projects.
Dont get me wrong, but having knull, the ghost rider, venom, garfield spiderman, daredevil, mephisto, king ping and the entire multiverse in a movie, does not make it a good movie. The story matters, the script.
I am a massive Nicolas Cage fan but I hated him as Ghost Rider
Movie starting to sound really crowded 🤨
Dave Mustaine should be Ghost Rider
Josh, Josh, Josh.. lol. I appreciate your podcast and all the hard work but sometimes you just go waaaaay off the rails bud. 😂😂
Yeah right I don’t think Sony has a script locked in yet it’ll probably be something different by next week lol
I don’t think this makes sense from a “rights issue” point of view.
mid video get checked for raedon
Brand new day was the worst comic booked storyline in history. Spider-Man would never sell his soul. Basically to the devil. To bring his Aunt May back. Absurd
Sounds very unlikely
I just hope Sony is giving back the rights for Spidey to marvel because the Sony-verse is doodoo 💩
Spiderman, Knull, Symbiotes, Ghost Rider, Mephisto..set in MCU.....and KEANU REEVES in the same movie?! I'm already SOLD! still I'll take it with a huuugggee pinch of salt.....but then I concerns...on how will they will make it all work out? will the execution be as perfect as it sounds?! Something tells me, that its not going to be Ghost Rider as in Johnny Blaze or Spirit of Vengeance....it could be perhaps maybe......Ghost Spider?
Sony being Sony as usual
Ghost rider is actually an agent of god. Need to brush up on the lore
Again, a Spiderman movie in the MCU were it's a cameo driven film. Proves that Tom Holland is shit and can't hold up a movie on his own, and if you disagree, then fair enough, but Spiderman homecoming it's ironman, Spiderman far from home it's about Ironmans death, No Way Home it's a spot fest of cameos and now Ghostrider!
It's not Tom's fault the execs wants this
@stonalisa3729 He's been saying he is heavily involved in the script. Ali turned down countless blade scripts cause they were shit!
If your trilogy, the cameos, or the story (ironmans death) outshines, the character arc of Spiderman shows either Holland acting was weak or the script was terrible. Holland has ruined Spiderman and Nathan Drake for me.
How I want Spiderman 4 Movie To Look:
Spiderman Accurate✅
Spiderman Street Level✅
Spiderman🕷 Vs Scorpion🦂✅
Spiderman Multiverse❌
Can’t wait for this to age poorly 😂
Nothing with KEANU is set in stone yet. He will be in STAR WARS amd lets hope KEANU IS GHOST RIDER. ALL THIS SPECULATION IS NAUSEATING 😂WHAT IF MEPHISTO IS DR. DOOM, and they are all on BATTLEWORLD! 😂
spider man 4 movie in Ghost Rider in the mcu in 2025 today now yes yes 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Wassssssssapppppp
I was really hoping they Had Robbie Reyes Ghostrider from Agents Of Shield, Not mad at Keanu
Also seems like Sony Wants to Asd too much into this Spider-Man Movie, they gonna fukk it up
The last Spider-Man sucked.
😂
This idea sounds dumb. The downfall of marvel
Waaaaa
Sounds awful
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No one wants no 60 year old dude playing ghost rider when they could use the character for years
There are multiple ghost riders. He could pass the torch to Danny Ketch or Robbie Reyes after a few movies
@@Jason-it5kzEXACTLY!
@@Jason-it5kz Robbie Reyes kinda has a horrible backstory tho. If anything they should just use Robby as the main Rider but give him Johnny's backstory
@@IndianaJake Robbie’s bad backstory has been fixed though, he was given a proper spirit of vengeance and johnny took him under his wing. I hated the character when he first debuted because of the backstory having nothing to do with the spirits of vengeance but they’ve pretty much retconned that. Besides, the MCU has a track record of not following the comics too closely. Even agents of shield used Robbie Reyes with a weird backstory of Johnny turning him into a ghost rider for some reason (which made no sense lol)
1 story line. Not multiverse based. 1 villain. Preferably one that's not shared the big screen with Spidey before. Tombstone or someone. Focus on the film in hand and not how the movies going to link to films down the line. Don't over stuff the movie. Make the movie good!
"Focus on the film in hand and not how the movies are going to link" Is why we are in the situation we are in currently with the MCU. Because nothing is linked or makes sense. She-Hulk, Secret Invasion, etc all focused on the project at hand and not the future. Yes it should be focused on the show/movie but you gotta keep it balanced. Atleast have SOMETHING that is gonna push the overall story foward. This is a franchise after all.
@hamsterrwrld6767 I wasn't referring to the tv shows. I mean, have an after credit scene or something. But just to focus on the movie we're watching instead of making it all convoluted . Still personally think they've yet to make a perfect Spider-man film. Spider-man 2 came the closest I reckon
Stop saying this changes everything you sound like an idiot It just Ames’s they’ll end messing it up anyway
NO! Everyone loves Keanu, but let’s be honest he’s not a good actor. Norman would be so much better
Keanu is a phenomenal actor, but I think Norman Reedus would be better
spider man 4 movie in Ghost Rider in the mcu in 2025 today now yes yes 😍😍😍😍😍
spider man 4 movie in Ghost Rider in the mcu in 2025 today now yes yes 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
spider man 4 movie in Ghost Rider in the mcu in 2025 today now yes yes 😍😍😍😍😍😍