Burning Vs. Chipping | Which Is Best?!
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00:00 I found a chipper
03:34 Burn Day
05:03 Fire
08:40 Rome wasn’t built with a bulldozer
09:33 Generator
12:44 Burn Day 2
16:15 Skid Steer Rescue 
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PLEASE STOP BURNING!!!
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@@BrianBriCurInTheOC AMEN!
180, not 360 :)
@@BrianBriCurInTheOC So, this is a show.........you knew that right LOL
7:34 dear friends 😍 that thing is perfect for chicks 🐥😍 make a small place for them and use that chips
Instead of over-dramatizing in your so-called out of control fire, show your loyal viewers how to safely prepare a slash pile burn before hand. Cut a hand line around the pile, set up the IBC tote and pump, and lay out the hose. Show us how be prepared ahead of the burn, not afterwards.
I laughed at you scrambling when fire was spreading. Having burnt my share of wood my 1st rule is always have fire fighting measures in place from the start. Everything worked out!
Good advice
For Them To Be Sooo Smart THAT WAS NOT SMART 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
@@georgecharokee4570 And then to film the fire getting out of control not so smart either.
Most likely made up drama for clicks. Not a good look or way to gain subscribers.
@@NotOnYourLife i doubt it.
The slabs you burned would have been great firewood. for your home. Burning in the forest always requires fire prep from the first to the end of the burn.
You would think that you'd use those wood for firewood since living 'off-grid' but I guess that's just me. Not the branches, but there were some big trunks there as well. I heat my house with wood and I'm not even living 'off-grid'.
yep. i know nothing about wood prices in the us but over here that would have been thousands of dollars that where lit on fire. wood chips are also expensive as hell.
They're YouTubing Millennials. They don't care. 😂
So, we learned a lesson: pre-stage the water brigade before controlled burns. Just in case.
No harm done, so no biggie as long as you learn from the mild panic!
Stay safe and have fun with the rest of your winterizing projects!
There were lots of lessons learned this week! We should have pulled the pile further from the hill and staged our water ahead of time.
I find it ironic that Riley is saying using diesel to start a fire is irresponsible but not having fire suppression equipment deployed isn't. I have seen millions of acres go up in smoke because of this type of irresponsible behavior. Not to be taken lightly.
Always try and keep the fuels in the tanks topped off to reduce water condensation. This will help with rust mitigation and then he freezing during the winter. Adding a good diesel treatment won't hurt especially since you don't have glow plugs.
Then you can stock up on the diesel fuels in case the road is blocked from heavy snows. Having a can or two of starter fluid won't hurt either. And I'll spare you the details about fire safety😊
You guys have come a long way pilgrims and I'm very happy for all three of you. But I sense another babies on the way😊😊😊😊
Practical experience is always good. You might consider, next time, place that ICB tote in the pack of your P/U, buy a high-pressure Honda water pump, hook some fire hose up, and you’ll have Mobil water ….
@@CaptainRon13 Ironic that someone thinks they are being irresponsible with the amount of diesel they were using to start a slash pile yet unprepared for fire suppression and a lack of defensible space.
Those who know in Idaho do not burn slash piles until there is snow on the ground. Build your slash pile. Cover it with a cheap tarp. When it snows, pull the tarp, as some diesel or oily/pitchy evergreen and light up.
Best fire starter I’ve found is paper towels soaked in your used bacon grease. Just soak up the grease and put them in a container for later. Put some small wood in a chimney starter and grease soaked towel under it. Inside of a few minutes the chimney will be roaring.
Btw my dad, who was born and raised on the farm, always said “fire is a wonderful slave, but a horrible master.”
Just a quick tip in the Vermeer chipper. When you feed a branch in, walk to the side of the machine. They can corkscrew a branch and smack you really bad. Never stand behind it. Sometimes they throw big pieces straight out back at you. I used an 18 inch model for about 20 years and saw how nasty they can get. Awesome machine though. 😊
Surprised to see chipping and burning, seems like one or the other would do. The lumber cut offs we call slab wood. Makes decent firewood!
Always clear an area around your burn pile down to bare dirt to keep from spreading !!!
Good advice.
Yea he has plenty of equipment to do that.
@@tyronestucker8980 Ya? Even with all that equipment on hand once the fire gets away from him there's only so much one man can do. Ask me how I know.
or wait until the first snow and then set the fire
even safer !!@@zedwpd
You have a Cat D8. That’s the go-to tool in forest fire management. In the future, use it to clear a large pad, level pad for your burn pile. Then on the burn day, have the bulldozer right there during the burn.
Why not use all that for firewood to heat the house?
Wait, can we get a video on your abandoned home stead off grid cabin, we would love to see this, and don't flatten it, please save it and make in to into a playhouse/ den for your son Oliver for when he's older growing up to share with Riley :) Likes to save the cabin !!
Put the mulch that you chipped on the slopes that are eroding that will slow the erosion down tell me about 4 to 6 inches thick it will also help retain moisture for stuff that you plant on the slopes😅
I like your generator and your solar system
What makes your program attractive is no click bait or drama . I am pleased to say I’ve been a long time follower , I feel there is no way in any world would you start your land on fire without looking around and making wise choices .
Subscriber since they got the army truck and I feel the same , no fake drama please and keep it real. It's not their first fire...
maybe a 500 gallon diesel tank for the winter ?
The safety committee has entered the chat.
I am 72 years old and have been through numerous fire training on different jobs and have seen the after effects of huge fires. You should have about eight fire extinguishers located placed around your property. I have 12. You should never start a fire outside without pre planning and staging how to put out a HUGE fire. Close your eyes and imagine having nothing left on that site. Please take care of this.
Ahhh dryness and fire, hello!!! 😮 surprised y’all were surprised it was spreading…
When I want to cut and clear brush around the burn area I've found that it's hard to beat a 10" x 80 tooth Carbide Tip Brush Blade mounted on a straight shaft string trimmer. They cost about $15 for a pair online. The carbide can slice through up to at least a 3-1/2 " diameter sapling (as long as I don't tilt the blade and cause it to bind or push it hard enough that the engine speed drops excessively.) When my big Husqvarna trimmer was down I got a $120 / 26 cc straight shaft trimmer from a discount store and it has handled the blade very well too ! I never imagined how much I'd use this tool it until I had one.
Thanks for the video !!!
So I’m still watching and you probably figure it out but always grade to clear earth around about a 10-20 ft radius around your burn piles and you only have to worry about flying embers vs the fire just climbing up the hill
Having water n pump set up before hand also eliminates stress. Putting the water pump combo on a trailer would be good for you guys and could be a fab video all to itself!
Back in my younger days I used to clear downed trees and brush in the mountains for people. We stacked the piles and waited till the first snow fall to burn them. We would put tar paper on the top of the piles to keep a section dry and make it easier to get a fire started. But at least you are prepared for a fire run away with your fire fighting tank and pump. Your place is really looking nice too! And little Oliver is sure a cute little guy!
You’re so lucky. Anytime you are welding, burning trash and slash have water nearby. I guess you know that by now. That was scary. Fires here in California are nightmares that you don’t want. Glad you are all ok. One thing you don’t have in the back 40 is a satellite phone for when cells go down and you really need help. Maybe you can mention next Sunday. Stay well, John
A chipper, perfect!
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Did I miss the update on the Shallow Well I know you said how many gallons a day it was giving, but any other update? Sharing for the 500K mark, hoping for a Million!
Brush burning 101, be prepared with water, shovels, etc.
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"it always looks easier in my mind"! Can't imagine the number of times I have thought that after I got into a project 🤣🤣🤣, Glad you got those branches out!
Should probably already had a hose ready to go before you start the fire in a forest. lol
You may want to wait until there’s a foot of snow on the ground before you start burning.
When I burn I always have tools and water at the ready before I even start.
Hopefully , In Your Dream Riley You Have Added A Well That Can Sustain Everything. Glad , You Got The Burn Controlled. Always Clean Around Where You Are Going To Start A Burn Pile. And , Have Water Right close By.
So a bought a big $800 chipper shredder a few years back because every year I have to cut and burn so much tree debris off my property I thought it would be nice to just use one of those and make free mulch. Well let me tell you, it was probably the worst purchase ever due to the fact that I had to process everything down so that it would fit in that little shoot and was so much work and so time consuming not to mention the noise, vibration, jams, etc. that I quickly found out that the thing is pretty much worthless, now that big behemoth thing you rented is great but not something I would ever be able to cost effectively use so I sold the chipper at a loss and am back to burning.
May I suggest the Video "Back to Eden." Chips are priceless when it comes to gardening.
Your videos are awesome. Be safe, Reggie
perhaps you should have the water and pump there before you start a fire :)
Burn pile clearance, x2 the size of the pile, all sides. Minimum.
Everyone needs a set of funnels: mechanics, farmers, kitchen, all around the place.
a bio gas generator would be a cool addition to the different energy sources you have installed on the property you could heat and possibly generate electricity. also a mini Pumped-storage hydroelectricity system might be a cool and cheep way of increasing your total energy storage capacity using extra solar power to pump water to a higher elevation then at night let it flow back down to spin a Micro Hydro trubine to covert the potential energy back into electricity (would a summer project for sure).the youtube channel @Landtohouse would be a good place to start a lot of research would be required to make it worth. would be a very cool video series
Nice clean up guys. Just a thought, avoid burning and chip it off as that will enrich your soil in the years to come and also it will be eco friendly without the burning ❤
Exactly what the land needs!
Remember saying to them before don't burn wood, chip it.
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At 1,000,000 you should build a fire watch tower. Lol
Hey GUY's, Just a thought about burning wood/tree debris is to have a special spot with no other trees or bushes around. Make a fire pit just for that purpose. It can get out of hand. Always have a fire extinguisher or water ready before any burning starts. Safety first.
MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY 💯 🤔😑😑😑
It’s a lot of work moving wood to designated burn area. Burning after dark once dew sets in is a great deterrent.
When you have 1 million subscribers you should invite us all to help you build that skii lift and a hill or what you call it to go skiing in!!! 😜❤🇸🇪
Yip , ill take the big chipper thanks
I have one it is awesome
Just keep in focus: YOU TWO are the stars. YOU TWO are master videographers. You don't need anyone else in the focus.
We all make mistakes but fires can really be dangerous. I am an Aussie and had a bush property in Victoria. Any burning needed a fire break around, yes water nearby, I was in the volunteer fire brigade so had access to that resource, pick the day- wind strength and fire rating. You have the dozer so having that nearby and ready will pile dirt onto small outbreaks fast. I don’t like fires in pines as they can go fast. Still this didn’t look to be uncontrollable. This was a good educational video. Thanks for sharing.
I love your vids
having had burn piles for 50 years, and a few mistakes also..... since you have a way to add fuel easily, (excavator, I do that too) make your pile smaller with good clearing around it. You weren't that bad, but it could have been a bit clearer. #2, have water READY to pour on if necessary. Dampening the area around the fire isn't that great. it just burns off, especially since you don't have that much water. Also you burned on a nice sunny day. Burn when it is sprinkling or raining. Hell, burn in the snow, then you know it will not go far. whatever you do, don't burn in the wind!
Get a rain system on all your roofs to collect tons of water for possible fire situations.
With your fire fighting add some dish soap to increase the wetting effect.
Yikes, Riley and Cortney need a visit from the fire department to teach them safe burning. Next year please clear the area around your burn pile of burnables. Please have the water setup allready ready to go and prewet the area around the bun pile to further prevent the spread of fire. I don't want to hear how you burned it all down and have to start over, please!
Sounds like you need a lesson in fire management. Pre wetting does nothing. The BTU's evaporate that small amount of wasted water very quickly.
Secondly, the fire department extiguishes fires, they don't preplan them. A burn pile requires common sense.
But that doesn't create drama. This was planned.
Room for improvement sure but atleast they already had equipment and a plan so better than nothing. And having watched most of their videos i can assure you they learned a lot form this close call. They're generally way safer about things than most people i know. So come next time they'll probably be even better prepared.
Fountain Fire Marshal disagrees they stated I was burning exactly the way I should and commended me. The prewetting allows the continued work with the hose to be effective. Otherwise the water is only on top.
I would have used the bulldozer to move it out in the open and maybe smaller piles. But that's just me.
Chipped a lot of firewood. Must not have a wood stove? No foam ridge cap seal?
I use containers for shops. I pout 4 support runways and set set the containers. The runways are set 6" above the finished main floor slab which is poured after the roof is on. I build 5-ft pony walls at the outside edge of the containers and land trusses on those. This gives you storage room on top of the containers. It also allows for a 14-ft high doors to the main floor. I usual put Bi-fold aircraft hanger style doors on both ends. And option is Leanto shed on both sides for whatever.
Will follow along. Love your attitude and energy.
Riley I think you need put culvert and pipe I think you will another mud time
Maybe now you will test, using boiled cornstarch and baking soda paste for fighting fires. It will stay wet for up to 2hrs vs how fast water alone dries out.
Note TetraKO in a 300 gallon tank will go a lot farther than just using a 300 gallon tank of water maybe up to 3x.
That god for the trusty diesel generator without it there will be darkness
Nice solar set up!
Looking good! Try to keep your batteries over 20% as where you start to harm your cycle count on Lithium Iron batteries!
Someone Smokey the bear said Only you can prevent forest fire and in one handed a shovel
Wow fire🔥🧯🥵thank goodness you had water & pump
But next time when you pile wood make sure it's in a pit so you can cover it with dirt then water...
I really agree
Congratulations on 500K views!❤🎉😅
“Fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master.”
Future project for the OBS Ford: '05+ front axle swap, w/a '08+ rear leaf swap. Electric fuel bowl. It would modernize the truck and keep it viable and comfortable for decades moving forward!
Plus, front leaf to shock conversion (I think that year was still front leafs) and a transfer pump to use some of that fuel capacity around the property
Always exciting...episode never long enough.
I know you have alot of trees but it's sad to see all that good wood get burned/ shredded.. that would make a cute rustic chicken coop or fencing around a garden. That burn pile area would be a good garden spot now. ❤
@ 1 million subscribers I'd like to see you make a second solar trailer. Maybe put wind power into the mix. Maybe figure out how to use thermal (months long) energy storage when your panels are overproducing (this is like heating sand in thermal isolation and storing that heat for later use). I wish you had a creek or waterway next to your property for hydropower. Oh yes.. do a crossover with the 'life uncontained' channel.
Cleaned up pretty good. God bless.
I am just so surprised that you haven't gone with a pellet fed boiler.
You have so much wood resource to make your own pellets.
just outdoor wood boiler in general
There are also wood chip heaters
We always wait for either a big rainstorm or the first snow in Nov to do our slash piles, just too risky otherwise living out where there's no fire service
I have the hf chipper! Works great! You're fire suppression system is worth it's weight in gold! Keeping that ready is important to you!
I had the same HF chipper until this summer when it got stolen from me.
**Read** Why don't you get a Northern Lights diesel generator with auto start. That's what I have, and I never have to monitor the battery level. It's all automatic. Turns on when the bank needs it, and off when it's charged. It will even exercise the generator in the summer, in order to keep your batteries up and generator fresh and lubed.
You're SUPPOSED to put the big end in first so branches don't get jammed up.
I worked on the county road crew one summer and we called our 'chipper' a "Brush Hog". It would chip a tree!
I was only 17 so they wouldn't let me feed it. My dad worked for the county. This happened in 1975.
Wow! Why wouldn’t you have water on standby 😮😮
You two have done a huge amount of work and the place looks very smart ,,you two have got a good working attitude ..I’m so glad that I subscribed it’s good to watch these videos ,I love the as you come a long way ,,and your Bub is beautiful cheers stay safe God Bless you all three of you ❤️❤️😀😀👍👍🦘🇦🇺🇺🇸
That’s all good fire wood!
Awesome video, keep them coming!
I started a grass fire using a cutting torch . Even though i was out of city limits the fire department is just a mile away. They were called and thank God it wasnt to bad but i am very carefull and will not burn brush unless there is snow on the ground.
When it rains, your boy is going to love running around under your shipping container barn. Always wanted one for my son.
Just a hint set up a pump n water a fire brake around burn site I also didn't see any marshmallows steaks or bread to toast come in guys you didn't even have a beer ready to drink while watching the pile burn lol
Yikes has the right idea. With your bulldozer I’d find a location where you could dig a burn pit that’s clear of vegetation away from your home. It doesn’t seem like you have the fire department around the corner. I always check the humidity level & wind before I use my fire pit & have the hose handy.
Your journey through life is such a great story to follow.
Got my pulse up during the burn pile ... perhaps watch a few videos on how embers 'explode' from fire and wind somehow speeds them along into the nearby fuel. But your pre-planning for ground water well, dedicated tote ready to grab and the high pressure pump and power source paid off. Whew.
Would love to see a video of her as she edits the parts that you took while she is gone.
I'm glad this fire was controlled quickly. Kinda scary and a good reminder to have a solid plan. And cleared area.
These guys have a million -plus & in heavy equipment, easily. Speaking as an "actual" homesteader, wow, must be nice.
You can't leave Riley unsupervised haha, great video
Smokey The Bear…
We need to get you some more batteries.
I know of several companies with good to great products.
I’d be happy to share my knowledge for fun.
I’m 2 hours south of Spokane :)-
Wish your family huge success!!
Yah ! most people do not realise how easy it is to start a forest fire ! it's not a joke when they say one spark and it's all gone ! a grinder started a fire that burned down our ranch ! at least that is what I think it was.. the power company said a faulty box. but the results were devastating.... we lost everything... 50 years of accumulation gone in an afternoon and there was no stopping it ! I have been very nervous when seeing your burn piles surrounded by brush and fallen debris.... but I am glad to see you learned your lesson without a major loss !
a cleared bare ground area around the burn pile is a must.... I have seen just the burning sparks start other fires away from the burn pile.... when it is light it with a match dry DO NOT BURN !!!! a forest fire can spread faster than you can run ! and when it's warm outside you are gambling with everything you own if you start a fire ! i burn only when it is drizzling rain or shortly after a rain... yes it takes diesel to get them going, but it is safer ! a dedicated burn area is a great idea.... ise the heavy equipment to bring in the brush and don't make the piles too big..... 15' in diameter by 6 ft tall is the biggest we ever did and that was well into winter
NOT spring ,fall or Summer !!!!! around here now the us forest service sets the days you can burn.... defi them and you go to jail, but they follow My idea of when to burn !
you do not know how lucky you were ! you cannot put out a big fire with a garden hose !
with a forest fire approaching your best defence is the D8..... cut a path around the place and stand guard send the wife and kids and dogs to town and hope it goes around.... but there will be places where it jumps the road..... that is Your job ! ... not fun and don't expect help
you are on your own.... if it's too much head to a clear bare ground area or pond.... and hope your house is spared having trees right next to the house like you have reduces that likely hood by 50%...... get rid of the trees by the deck for fire prevention.... yah I know, but you are at war against forest fires when you live out there !....
every tree you want to keep needs the limbs trimmed up 15 ' to 20' ... Crown fires start at the base of trees and go up by the limbs the bark is almost fire proof on pine trees... so they survive ! its the lower limbs that get ya ! if there is a strong wind just run for your lives !
FYI I had about 10 yards of wood chips between the garage and the house and I noticed it looked hazy. I got to starring at the pile and saw steam/smoke coming from the pile. I dug into it and the whole middle was ash and was around 200 degrees. My chips were as fresh as yours. The decomp generates heat and started burning. That's why they always turn a compost pile. So don't be surprised if yours does the same from the big chipper
Why not convert the output from the generator to DC and feed it in to the DC/Solar side of the inverters through a solar disconnect switch?
You don't use the generator and solar at the same time and then you do not have to worry about frequency and voltage.
I think a diode bridge shluld be enough, if not just a couple of high voltage capacitors should do the trick.
We just have a simple burn barrel to burn cardboard/paper. After almost burning my yard down we only burn during rainy days.
In my area there is a wood mill and a campground. The campground buys/gets the mill's offcuts and sells them for firewood. Just an idea for you folks. :)
Babies first Dewalt. Awww 💛🖤
Riley was right size does matter when it comes to chippers and burn piles! 🔥🌲
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I hope you have a good understanding of how fast the 275 gallons can be used up.
Oregon forestry requires 500 gal for a unmovable water tank.
With enough hose to reach all of the work area.
300 gal for one that can move, and travel to go get more water.
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Ability to fill a 5 gal bucket in under 10sec, through a 1/4" spray nozzle is another requirement.
If you Have see my post you can take the trash pump mount on top water tote and install tee on water intake with two value one from water tote and one for water tank so you can fill the water tote Have hard suction hose a elbow and long PVC pipe that go 3/4 down in your water tank . you can use chipping round the rock and under the solar panel so control water runoff. sound you going to have a LPG Generator so No more time walk out to start Army generator. Did you fix the Bulldozer? Build a vacation house on the homestead site so you can have a on site vacation. still need run air line and power to shipping container building 50 or 100 amp sub panel will do it. try be not be toll you so! Just hint
Also get 1" in or 1 1/2 In fire nozzle. fire Pulaski and fire rake and hole combo and shovel mounted it on the water tote so ready for any fire. Next time you know wet around the area if any brush near by or clean dirt
I was fire person and did wildland fire department training green go to greenside and black to the burn side and shovel have a lot use in a fire
Step 1 - move IBC TOTE full of water, pump, hose, etc. before starting fire in large pile of dried brush
I saw in your next video you installed a kohler generator.
We run one for our off grid system and love it. Hope yours works as good as our.
From a firefighter: just like you plan out all your other projects, lighting fires are the same...minimum distance to any structure is 30 feet. Radiant heat from wildland fires can ignite fuels up to 30 feet away without any ember showers. You learned a valuable lesson, always have water on location and ready to use when you burn. Grubbing to mineral soil around the piles is good practice!
Yes prewetting does help, and always have water ready. I burned some pretty big fires, i always burned them when it was raining or had snowed always had water ready. I cleared around the fire. Be safe be prepared. I covered my brush piled with tarps befor wenter it made for easy fire starting. I saw neighbors use gallons of diesel gas mixture they had the hardest time starting fires I could use a match to start my dry brush piles.
Always cut a fire line around your burn piles. With all the equipment you have this should be super easy.
take the drone and look how close your trees are to your house ect. Then take a flashback when your felt the heat of the woodpile was on fire, which scared you a little bit. Take down all trees around the living space Your are making a amazing jobb 😉