It's good to know that common sense has not disappeared from college campuses and public discourse. She is a breath of fresh air. and good choice as guest.
This woman is truly a blessing to us all!!! Thank you to Amanpour and Company for having her on the show and giving her a platform to share her thoughts and wisdom. Thank you to Prof. Ross for your human brilliance!!!
Right? I just feel like, give this woman some power to make change, she has all the right ideas and she's been doing this for 30 years, pretty sure she knows what's going on.
AGREED! Badass Mother Fucking Queen. Mothers of Mothers, M.O.M and straight up OG. The Professor is GANGSTA. My newest role model, Sensai, Master, Wizard and Priestess. She is a modern Goddess, Wisdom Keeper, Wayshower, Practical Mystic and Leader Servant. Never a victim or survivor. This is #Blackexcellence. #BlackWomanLeadership, fighting for #Democracy. This is how it’s done. With love, humor, compassion and grace. Finally, media doing its job of giving a wider voice to ALL people, instead of corporate ownership. Did y’all know she was so powerful?
@Ja Cotter Again, speaking for myself, IF ONLY! Beijing Biden might be a good nickname, though, because Beijing too mostly cares about corporations. Whatever one's politics, I really wish adults could realize that Biden is not a progressive Democrat. That is really not an opinion, it's a fact. If Biden is a socialist then Trump is a feminist and Bush a pacifist and Reagan a great humanitarian. Need I go on?
All of our divided America needs to take Professor Ross’s class if we will ever have a chance to build a better future, Loretta you are PHENOMINAL! and Thank You Amanpour and Co for another brilliant interview...
Thank you so much for having Loretta Ross on. Her conversation was fresh, candid and thought-provoking. An intelligent exploration of cancel culture and its impacts.
Excellent!!! Thank you so much for this interview. This is a critical conversation we need to be having if we’re going to develop the capacity to heal our divided country!
Her syllabus is available with permission at msmagazine.com/2020/06/30/white-supremacy-in-the-trump-era-a-new-online-course-with-loretta-ross/ I thought the same thing.
This is such a valuable conversation. We can't grow without learning and listening. Students need to critically examine both sides and remember that after school they will have to encounter these issues and work towards solutions. I agree with everything she says.
We need her help to prevent the rise of the next Trump. His followers need to be heard and dealt with fairly. Not cancelled and dismissed. It is their angst that we see manifest in Trump.
Thank you to PBS and the Amanpour team for sharing Loretta's perspective. She is certainly a voice we desperately need in these times. And a wonderful interview (as always) by Michel. Thank you for this great piece.
In 1970s prisons still had rehabilitation as a goal, not just punishment. But mass incarceration teaching change behaviors was too costly. These policies have wider societal impacts. I hope we can come out of this pandemic with more compassion for all the inhabitants of this planet. We see how we are all in this together.
Loved this interview. Great conversation. Intelligent questions and well thought out and common sense answers. Excellent, we all need to see/hear more discussions like this on TV/radio, etc.
Bravo! More of this please...this is the face of healing and resilience. Feminine energy has been rising and shining a light unto the darkness for some time now. Ride the wave girl!!!
Prof. Ross is really smart on this issue. I also like when AOC addressed the obscene snub from the other Congressal rep. In her speech she left open that people sometimes say the wrong thing and should be given the chance to apologize and change. This made it so easy for that rep to correct his mistake. When he brushed it off, refused, he undermined himself. She handed him an olive branch and he hit himself in the face with it.
I loved this. We dont have to give pur platforms to flat earth pseudo scientists. Neither do we have to smash up peoples lives over use one wrong word 20 years ago. Eyes on the big picture.
💙🦅💙 Man-o-Man, i could and would, in a heart beat, definitely take all the Classes this Teacher is offering! She’s soooo good at communicating her knowledge and i appreciate that in my teachers. I’m ready 2 go back 2 college 4 her 2 be my teacher💙🦅💙🗽💙🙏💙😷💙Thank You for This Interview💙😷💙🦋PS: after watching the interview 2x - i say , YES, get her on your program again. This lady Professor should have her own TV Program or You-Tube channel in Order 2 share her life’s knowledge and wisdom, as an Elder.💙🙏💙ThankU🙋♀️
"Why did we have better forgiveness practices in the 1970s than I've seen in the 21st century?" Oh my - this was Prof's last comment-question-offering. And this could be a whole program to explore. The 70s have discoveries and practices that we ignore because they're old. Please have her back to explore this area of working with the abuser/other from a place of understanding and humanity.
Prof Ross, you are such a beautiful person. Right away I loved your smile. I have been concerned about abut cancel culture on Facebook. I appreciate your words.
Thank you! Making false equivalencies between opinion and evidence based fact don't support a fact based society. Making this kind of false equivalence has created communities with different "facts". The facts are the facts. Interpretation can differ but water is wet and rocks are hard.
If not for the fact that he would talk over you, you'd make a perfect guest on Real Time with Bill Maher, Prof. Ross. I'm guessing you already have been at some point!
Also, I hear people bend over backwards to use the proper terms while showing a lack of understanding the real life experiences of the very people they are attempting to correctly identify. I had a recent incident with a person explaining how to approach working with members of a certain group. I am a member of that group but don't look it. When i told her she asked me " what type of X" I was and then categorized my people. It was irritating but I was able to tactfully shut that down by not choosing one of her options.
As a mother of a lesbian, I understand her and all her friends. Not something I learned from having her. My mother worked in Salons where gay was the norm. None of my brothers and sisters ever thought any different of them. I have struggled with the proper pronoun new thing, my thoughts is should we be putting people in categories if acceptance is the goal then should we be making announcements when someone walks into our presence.
I would love to ask her about celebrities and other public figures who have been publicly taken to task for legitimately bad behavior but remain unrepentant or whose apologies are weak and unconvincing. We know that for sexual and racial violence and discrimination, legal avenues do not always lead to a redressing of the wrongs. So, “cancel culture” - for lack of a better solution - has evolved to address the problem because our outdated legal system can’t. She’s right in that “canceling” does not allow for productive conversations, but sometimes it seems like the only way to get through to people who don’t understand what they’ve done wrong until you hit them at the box office or pocketbook.
It's strange that cancel culture within Black people has not impacted Nicole Hannah Jones, or did she simply redeem herself with the 1619 Project? I commend Prof. Ross on the work she does. I would like to hear her take on Black instances of cancel culture particularly, in addition to contradictions/hypocrisies we exhibit. Hannah Jones at some point has said gentrification and having White students in class with Black students, would help Black students, in poor performing schools. This certainly sounds controversial to me, giving the rhetoric I hear from most from Black people, yet I have not heard any discussion of this position she has taken. The issue of "respectability politics" has often been talked about, but mainly, if not only in, that people are charged with practicing it. One area in particular, where this is starkly seen, is the area of Black on Black violence or "crime,' as is often used. Black intellectuals who popularized respectability politics, say Black people shouldn't talk of "Black on Black crime', because "it makes us look pathological". This is hypocritical because they say Black people, who are critical of negative behavior of Black people, do so because we are worried about, how it makes us look, in the eyes of other people. They are the only ones stating this empathically, with statements like this. These are often the same people, who are promoting the idea of the impact of trauma (present and inherited genetically) on Black people. The media would serve us better, to be more proactive in exploring these kind of contradictions, rather than just duplicating what is talked about incessantly, concerning cancel culture, and other already highly debated topics. How can the level of violence in Black communities in particular and in the country in general, not be an issue of major concern? It effects so many other areas of society. Speaking of culture, which the Right has long proclaimed, that a culture war, is what we are in, the Left doesn't want to deal much at all with culture. Michael Eric Dyson may be solely responsible for popularizing charging people with practicing 'respectability politics, when he wrong his book criticizing Bill Cosby's criticism of young people. Dyson also acts as a self-appointed spokesmen, for Hip-Hop. He certainly was around in the 80's, when Hip-Hop had their campaign against violence. How can the media see many of these same people today sa,y Black on Black crime is "not a thing", and let it go without questioning? How could any ally of Black people, let this obvious contradiction happen, and ignore it? Someone Black and honest and open-minded like Prof. Ross, who is working to create a better dialogue between the political and racial divide, surely is needed to lessen the divide among Black people.
Much appreciation and applause for the interviewed ... however the interviewer has a percacity that tawdry Prof Ross gave a grounding account on cancel culture ... without the catechism of the Prof. abused past
What is cancel culture? That was the historical dialectic is all about. What the esteemed Professor can't figure out that Canceling Cancel Culture as she advocates IS cancel culture...the Right Cancels The Left Cancels the Right. Now the dialectic is an national or international dynamic Somone challenges established norms. Thesis. ANOTHER side challenges that.. Antithesis. Finally after years of argument we get a new norm...Synthesis.
Haven’t all social movements been amplified since the 1970s with the rise of social media? I agree with a lot of what the professor was talking about, but question the efficacy her interpersonal methods in the post-Information age. There needs to be some form of management for the disinformation systems that are arising, and more responsibility on organizations that give hate speech and disinformation oxygen. A lot of what she’s talking about seems best applied to an instance where you can actually have a real, in person dialogue. I don’t see how this is possible in the current digital age, where the “cancel culture” she is talking about mostly foments on social media, for the exact reason that it isn’t two people confronting each other in a direct and real conversation.
It's good to know that common sense has not disappeared from college campuses and public discourse. She is a breath of fresh air. and good choice as guest.
I love that the journalists here talk with our thinkers and academics. We need quiet reason and wisdom.
So happy to have been introduced to Professor Loretta Ross. Thank you Amanpour broadcast journalists.
This woman is truly a blessing to us all!!! Thank you to Amanpour and Company for having her on the show and giving her a platform to share her thoughts and wisdom. Thank you to Prof. Ross for your human brilliance!!!
I'm torn between wanting this woman involved in the Biden-Harris cabinet and wanting her to continue teaching. She is AMAZING!!!!
Right? I just feel like, give this woman some power to make change, she has all the right ideas and she's been doing this for 30 years, pretty sure she knows what's going on.
Yeah, she might be (ethically as well as academically) over-qualified for that neoliberal club. :)
AGREED! Badass Mother Fucking Queen. Mothers of Mothers, M.O.M and straight up OG. The Professor is GANGSTA.
My newest role model, Sensai, Master, Wizard and Priestess. She is a modern Goddess, Wisdom Keeper, Wayshower, Practical Mystic and Leader Servant. Never a victim or survivor. This is #Blackexcellence. #BlackWomanLeadership, fighting for #Democracy. This is how it’s done. With love, humor, compassion and grace. Finally, media doing its job of giving a wider voice to ALL people, instead of corporate ownership. Did y’all know she was so powerful?
@Ja Cotter Again, speaking for myself, IF ONLY! Beijing Biden might be a good nickname, though, because Beijing too mostly cares about corporations. Whatever one's politics, I really wish adults could realize that Biden is not a progressive Democrat. That is really not an opinion, it's a fact. If Biden is a socialist then Trump is a feminist and Bush a pacifist and Reagan a great humanitarian. Need I go on?
All of our divided America needs to take Professor Ross’s class if we will ever have a chance to build a better future, Loretta you are PHENOMINAL! and Thank You Amanpour and Co for another brilliant interview...
I am a formerly incarcerated Masters Student and abolitionist and convict criminologist and this is air beneath my wings. Thank you Professor!
@01:41 " When you ask people to give up hate, you need to be there for them when they do " - Reverend C.T. Vivian
We need more college professors like Loretta Ross. She possesses a lot of common sense and doesn't appear to be bitter about personal injustices
...though she certainly could be....Black Excellence and Beauty in Effect!
This Lady demonstrates a lot of wisdom and compassion.
my word she's led a surprising life.
very balanced woman
Loretta Ross is a Smith College professor in the Program for the Study of Women and Gender. We are so proud of her!!
👏👏👏
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Great interview. It is so important to have consideration and perspective about the things we disagree with.
Thank you so much for having Loretta Ross on. Her conversation was fresh, candid and thought-provoking. An intelligent exploration of cancel culture and its impacts.
Excellent!!! Thank you so much for this interview. This is a critical conversation we need to be having if we’re going to develop the capacity to heal our divided country!
I’d love to have the reading list she gives to her students.
Same!
Her syllabus is available with permission at msmagazine.com/2020/06/30/white-supremacy-in-the-trump-era-a-new-online-course-with-loretta-ross/ I thought the same thing.
@@angelahamilton6900 Wow, thank you! This is so valuable.
Thank you for this thoughtful interview. I hope we can continue to cultivate this type of candid, nuanced, loving conversation. Thank you!
Well said. I am happy for this interview and Ms. Ross's perspective. We need to listen and learn if we are going to grow.
I’m so proud to have been able to work with you and know you as a friend!
This is such a valuable conversation. We can't grow without learning and listening. Students need to critically examine both sides and remember that after school they will have to encounter these issues and work towards solutions. I agree with everything she says.
We need her help to prevent the rise of the next Trump.
His followers need to be heard and dealt with fairly. Not cancelled and dismissed. It is their angst that we see manifest in Trump.
An incisive diagnosis sir.
Thank you. All this cancel culture fear restricts and punishes. We need to come together, accept one another and have conversations.
Thank you to PBS and the Amanpour team for sharing Loretta's perspective. She is certainly a voice we desperately need in these times. And a wonderful interview (as always) by Michel. Thank you for this great piece.
Thanks, Karene.
Great interview. Ms. Ross made some excellent points.
Thank you for your loving presence as well as talking about how trauma is influencing our world today.
What a great interview.
Learned a lot listening to Loretta Ross. Excellent teacher.
This professor is awesome! Thank you so much for speaking about democracy, truth, & knowledge!
In 1970s prisons still had rehabilitation as a goal, not just punishment. But mass incarceration teaching change behaviors was too costly. These policies have wider societal impacts. I hope we can come out of this pandemic with more compassion for all the inhabitants of this planet. We see how we are all in this together.
Yes, yes, YES.
Loved this interview.
Great conversation. Intelligent questions and well thought out and common sense answers.
Excellent, we all need to see/hear more discussions like this on TV/radio, etc.
Bravo! More of this please...this is the face of healing and resilience. Feminine energy has been rising and shining a light unto the darkness for some time now. Ride the wave girl!!!
Prof. Ross, thank you for your vision and courage.
You are one of the very best, Loretta Ross!
Prof. Ross is really smart on this issue. I also like when AOC addressed the obscene snub from the other Congressal rep. In her speech she left open that people sometimes say the wrong thing and should be given the chance to apologize and change. This made it so easy for that rep to correct his mistake. When he brushed it off, refused, he undermined himself. She handed him an olive branch and he hit himself in the face with it.
I loved this. We dont have to give pur platforms to flat earth pseudo scientists. Neither do we have to smash up peoples lives over use one wrong word 20 years ago. Eyes on the big picture.
💙🦅💙 Man-o-Man, i could and would, in a heart beat, definitely take all the Classes this Teacher is offering! She’s soooo good at communicating her knowledge and i appreciate that in my teachers. I’m ready 2 go back 2 college 4 her 2 be my teacher💙🦅💙🗽💙🙏💙😷💙Thank You for This Interview💙😷💙🦋PS: after watching the interview 2x - i say , YES, get her on your program again. This lady Professor should have her own TV Program or You-Tube channel in Order 2 share her life’s knowledge and wisdom, as an Elder.💙🙏💙ThankU🙋♀️
Brilliant and mind-opening. A change-maker.
Very interesting! I love the way she approaches open and frank discussion in the classroom.
"Why did we have better forgiveness
practices in the 1970s than I've seen in the 21st century?" Oh my - this was Prof's last comment-question-offering. And this could be a whole program to explore. The 70s have discoveries and practices that we ignore because they're old. Please have her back to explore this area of working with the abuser/other from a place of understanding and humanity.
Prof. Ross is amazing. I am going back and watching all her appearances I can find on RUclips.
Excellent interview. Professor Ross's class sounds great.
Excellent interview. Thank you both.🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 #MichelleMartin #ProfessorLorettaRoss
We need more frank conversations like this. Indeed, let us establish democratic speech environments.
Thank you. This is so insightful and uplifting.
Prof Ross, you are such a beautiful person. Right away I loved your smile. I have been concerned about abut cancel culture on Facebook. I appreciate your words.
This woman is simply AMAZING!
What a wonderful discussion! Oh how I would love to take her class❤️
Professor Ross is a powerful woman. Very inspiring.
A sensible approach to the topic.
Brilliant lady! :) Thank you for your insight and clarity. :)
Thank you for addressing this issue. Whenever I hear cancel or de-platforming it makes me cringe.
Thank you Professor, that is some good food for thought. I really like the way you break down some ideas regarding this topic.
Thank you! Making false equivalencies between opinion and evidence based fact don't support a fact based society. Making this kind of false equivalence has created communities with different "facts". The facts are the facts. Interpretation can differ but water is wet and rocks are hard.
However, this womYn is brilliant!
Love her work ✊🏽❤️🤘🏽
If not for the fact that he would talk over you, you'd make a perfect guest on Real Time with Bill Maher, Prof. Ross. I'm guessing you already have been at some point!
I applaud this professor and I agree with her. 👏
Amen Professor Lfessor
Prof. Loretta J. Ross
🖤🤎🤍💙🧡💛💚💜
She is Awesome defined! 🧠
Great topic and discussion.
Loretta Ross is a BOSS!
Thank you!!!
Merci !
She needs a TED talk. Wow imagine wanting to fix things instead of causing more divide.
Great teacher
We need more activism to make universities great again.
Professor Ross, do you provide your course online?
would love to take her class...
I lived her common sense approach. Victim culture is not what we should be teaching our young adults
Oh, what a sensible, no-nonsense woman, who has no time for wokeness!
To avoid cancelation I just shut up and shut down. My safe place.
Also, I hear people bend over backwards to use the proper terms while showing a lack of understanding the real life experiences of the very people they are attempting to correctly identify. I had a recent incident with a person explaining how to approach working with members of a certain group. I am a member of that group but don't look it. When i told her she asked me " what type of X" I was and then categorized my people. It was irritating but I was able to tactfully shut that down by not choosing one of her options.
As a mother of a lesbian, I understand her and all her friends. Not something I learned from having her. My mother worked in Salons where gay was the norm. None of my brothers and sisters ever thought any different of them. I have struggled with the proper pronoun new thing, my thoughts is should we be putting people in categories if acceptance is the goal then should we be making announcements when someone walks into our presence.
I would love to ask her about celebrities and other public figures who have been publicly taken to task for legitimately bad behavior but remain unrepentant or whose apologies are weak and unconvincing. We know that for sexual and racial violence and discrimination, legal avenues do not always lead to a redressing of the wrongs. So, “cancel culture” - for lack of a better solution - has evolved to address the problem because our outdated legal system can’t. She’s right in that “canceling” does not allow for productive conversations, but sometimes it seems like the only way to get through to people who don’t understand what they’ve done wrong until you hit them at the box office or pocketbook.
There are rainbow Oreos?
It's strange that cancel culture within Black people has not impacted Nicole Hannah Jones, or did she simply redeem herself with the 1619 Project? I commend Prof. Ross on the work she does. I would like to hear her take on Black instances of cancel culture particularly, in addition to contradictions/hypocrisies we exhibit. Hannah Jones at some point has said gentrification and having White students in class with Black students, would help Black students, in poor performing schools. This certainly sounds controversial to me, giving the rhetoric I hear from most from Black people, yet I have not heard any discussion of this position she has taken.
The issue of "respectability politics" has often been talked about, but mainly, if not only in, that people are charged with practicing it. One area in particular, where this is starkly seen, is the area of Black on Black violence or "crime,' as is often used. Black intellectuals who popularized respectability politics, say Black people shouldn't talk of "Black on Black crime', because "it makes us look pathological". This is hypocritical because they say Black people, who are critical of negative behavior of Black people, do so because we are worried about, how it makes us look, in the eyes of other people. They are the only ones stating this empathically, with statements like this.
These are often the same people, who are promoting the idea of the impact of trauma (present and inherited genetically) on Black people. The media would serve us better, to be more proactive in exploring these kind of contradictions, rather than just duplicating what is talked about incessantly, concerning cancel culture, and other already highly debated topics. How can the level of violence in Black communities in particular and in the country in general, not be an issue of major concern? It effects so many other areas of society.
Speaking of culture, which the Right has long proclaimed, that a culture war, is what we are in, the Left doesn't want to deal much at all with culture. Michael Eric Dyson may be solely responsible for popularizing charging people with practicing 'respectability politics, when he wrong his book criticizing Bill Cosby's criticism of young people. Dyson also acts as a self-appointed spokesmen, for Hip-Hop. He certainly was around in the 80's, when Hip-Hop had their campaign against violence. How can the media see many of these same people today sa,y Black on Black crime is "not a thing", and let it go without questioning? How could any ally of Black people, let this obvious contradiction happen, and ignore it?
Someone Black and honest and open-minded like Prof. Ross, who is working to create a better dialogue between the political and racial divide, surely is needed to lessen the divide among Black people.
is Prof. not a official academic title in the USA?
like prof is higher than dr, (phd)
ugg i need to google this
Much appreciation and applause for the interviewed
... however the interviewer has a percacity that tawdry
Prof Ross gave a grounding account on cancel culture
... without the catechism of the Prof. abused past
this professor makes sense because she comes from outside of academia.
#CancelTheLast4Years.
Lol
What is cancel culture? That was the historical dialectic is all about. What the esteemed Professor can't figure out that Canceling Cancel Culture as she advocates IS cancel culture...the Right Cancels The Left Cancels the Right.
Now the dialectic is an national or international dynamic Somone challenges established norms. Thesis. ANOTHER side challenges that..
Antithesis. Finally after years of argument we get a new norm...Synthesis.
Haven’t all social movements been amplified since the 1970s with the rise of social media?
I agree with a lot of what the professor was talking about, but question the efficacy her interpersonal methods in the post-Information age. There needs to be some form of management for the disinformation systems that are arising, and more responsibility on organizations that give hate speech and disinformation oxygen. A lot of what she’s talking about seems best applied to an instance where you can actually have a real, in person dialogue. I don’t see how this is possible in the current digital age, where the “cancel culture” she is talking about mostly foments on social media, for the exact reason that it isn’t two people confronting each other in a direct and real conversation.
"facilitating and enabling womanizers, with sexual liberty, is not Feminism in any way, and is absolutely the opposite of feminism. "
Ahem. say it LOUD!!
Who deserves to be canceled? Flat earthers. Qanon.
Big deal, it's not even a thing!! Complete nonsense!!!!