Apologies for the reupload, the last video got flagged and demonetised for gore. We kinda need ads on videos for the channel to survive so I hope you don't mind us reposting this. Thanks, Paul.
Missed the first one, so I am gladly watching this one. I have seen all the stuff they probably made you remove, so I don’t feel cheated one bit. Glad I found your channel. Good stuff.
I’ve lost count how many times I’ve seen The Thing and I think I love it a little bit more every time. It’s such a perfectly crafted movie….just enough information missing to make you unsure exactly who is infected and when….which puts you in the shoes of the main characters.
You put it perfectly... it's perfectly crafted. It's one of the few films I consider perfect, nothing should be added, nothing taken away.. We're given just enough to figure things out... but at the same time not enough. The fact the film starts basically at the end of a story of people dealing with the monster adds so much weight to the mystery... the fact we don't know who is officially the Thing for sure even after dozens, and dozens of viewings.. I cant say for sure at times. Is insane. We don't know EXACTLY when everyone is killed/changed... the practical effects, the setting, the score, the ending.. it's a masterpiece if I've ever seen one. Perfect film... Predator is another I would consider perfect. Along with Alien, and others.
I just re-watched it for the thousandth time and saw something I have never noticed before....the scene where MacReady is testing everyone's blood...Windows uses a scalpel to cut everyone's thumb....but uses his pants to wipe it off after everyone is cut without sterilizing it imbetween. That should have made everyone that was human....a thing! It would just take time for the molecules of the thing to slowly replicate itself, thus why the blood test wouldn't immediately work, the thing hasn't had enough time to replicate within their bloodstreams yet.
I’d have to rewatch to see the order than they cut their thumbs in but isn’t Palmer the only thing in the room at that point so if he goes last then everyone is fine
From memory I'm pretty sure it was only Palmer who was infected at that time so in this scenario it would only be people who's samples were taken after Palmer that would be infected by the scalpel. I can't remember the order in which the samples were collected or if the movie even gives us that information.
I've always been of the opinion that The Thing isn't actually a naturally occurring extraterrestrial lifeform at all, but rather a super mega bioweapon, developed and being transported by the alien race that created it, which broke free of whatever stasis or containment it was being held in, wiping out the crew of the spaceship carrying it until crash landing in Antarctica and freezing in the ice after crawling or being ejected from the wreck.
One thing that I always had a question about - The “Norris” thing (the one revealed to be a thing when the electro-paddles were used on him) suffered a heart attack. Why would The Thing have a heart attack? Did it copy Norris so perfectly that it replicated his heart disease, too? And if that was the case what else would it replicate? Emotions? Memories? Fears? Also, if The Thing was alive and sentient on a microscopic level would it even rely on a human being’s organs to remain alive?
Obviously the thing didn't have the internal organs copied. It looked like norris only from the outside. conclusion would be that it was a trap to kill the remaining crew?
@HR-yd5ib It seems in the case of Norris the Thing didn't replicate organs, or if it did then it quickly altered them into what we see in that scene. Tho when Blair is dissecting the one partially formed corpse, he does extract organs that are totally normal & fully formed. So I'm not entirely sure what this Thing is doing and how it typically functions. It's very possible that it simply isn't sensible, being a work of fiction, or perhaps there is some in universe explanation. And yes, I think it could've totally been a trap to get the crew.
I've collected a LOT of memorabilia on 'The Thing'. Movies, original theater poster, figures, books, comics, patches but there is one holy grail collectable that hasn't been made. I'd like someone to reproduce the original Thing being (the one with three red eyes) and it comes with a block of 'ice' that it can be displayed in. I've submitted my idea to quite a few manufacturers and still nothing to date. Great video.
This is pretty messed up, but if The Thing took your mum and allowed you to live with it as your mum, would you allow it to take the world, knowing it wasn't your mom? Just substitute someone else, it doesn't have to be your mum. I tried to think of a better way to phrase it to sound less bad, but I honestly would probably do so as long as no one found out it was my fault and I didn't have to deal with the downfall of civilization on my hands. Just a really light hearted thought experiment. Sorry for your loss btw, pretend it's not your mom.
I absolutely love The Thing! I'd love to see more breakdowns on anything to do with this film! The first time I watched it I knew nothing about it and it instantly became my favourite movie! Despite the lack of practical effects in the 2011 prequel I still think it's a pretty solid film in its own right and is completely underrated.
The prequel is underrated sure... but the horrible CG instead of bringing back Bottin, or getting someone like Rick Baker is why it's "HATED". The Thing is one of, if not my favorite film of all time... I watched the prequel (2011) once, and haven't watched it since... I'm going to soon since I'm craving John Carpenters as I always do this time of year.. I just remember thinking this CG ruins the film. It's ghastly bad at times with the guys face in the helicopter I remember cringing, and when it's running down the hallway, it's just so bad, where I still do this day marvel at the original and how gorgeous (yet grotesque lol ) it is. Where the original is arguably the best practical effects of all time. CG sucks... and the prequel being a solid ass film, is RUINED because of it. The acting all around is great, the filming, everything.. it's the SFX that ruins it. Could you imagine if it one upped the practical effects of the original? It would be praised to this day, and probably would've gotten a sequel somehow. Which I always wanted... I want to see The Thing sequel where rescue crew comes for Kurt Russell, and companies dead bodies... and see the film deal with The Thing coming to the United States, the mainland, and seeing a global takeover by this amazing horrifying creature...
@@ReadyPlayerTomVR I completely agree, the CGI is awful, even for the time! It's a travesty they didn't use practical effects. One way I found I could enjoy it was by watching it on DVD & an old TV (non hd) ironically the CGI looks better that way and you can just enjoy the story. Obviously that's not necessarily the easiest way but a simple dvd version will look better than Blu-ray because the CGI isn't having to be upscaled, instead it's down scaled along with the source image making them blend together that much better.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU ! I ALSO FOUND ANOTHER THING VIDEO CALLED; “ WHO WAS THE PILOT OF THE “THINGS SPACESHIP REVEALED “ AND IT GOES THROUGH THE WHOLE 2011 THING PREQUEL MOVIE AND REVEALS ALL OF THE PRACTICAL EFFECTS AND FILMING THAT THEY ENDED UP DUMPING IN FAVOR OF CGI BECAUSE OF TIMING AND BUDGETING RESTRICTIONS 0:01 ON ANOTHER CHANNEL IT GOES INTO DETAIL AND BREAKS DOWN WHO THE ORIGINAL OPERATORS AND PILOTS WERE ON THE ALIEN SPACESHIP AND THE PRACTICAL EFFECTS THEY HAD FOR THE ORIGINAL ALIENS WAS. COMPLETELY WEIRD,AND OUT OF THIS WORLD
I DO AGREE WITH YOU THAT PRACTICAL EFFECT LIKE REAL LIVE MANNEQUINS PUPPETS,REAL MODELS,ALWAYS BEAT CHI HANDS DOWN WHEN CHI FIRST STARTED APPEARING I SAID TO MYSELF OH NO MIVIE STUDIOS ARE GOING TO GET LAZY AND SAVE A LOT OF MONEY NOW
I didn't like the prequel. They basically retconned the whole thing and then just threw in the helicopter at the end. It should have shown the characters and how they dealt it the Thing and then finally realizing the dog is one of them, thereby chasing it and leading into the first movie. But instead they did the lazy way. And what about Kate and the vehicles at the ship? We never saw that or her in the first movie. Dumb and lazy IMHO.
Yes, we need more. The Thing is one of my favorite horror movie. Since I was a kid. Top 3 easily. I would love to learn more about it. I bet, I'm not the only one.
It obviously wasn't building a "space ship". No matter your intelligence, you're not making a flying saucer that can reach orbit out of helicopter and snow-Cat parts powered by the diesel, AvGas, and kerosene fuel available in the camp. It was making some sort of vehicle that would cross the ice to reach another settlement, or possibly cross the ocean to reach civilization.
@@Aristocat-123 The incoming storm aside, it had been discovered and couldn't just leave. The first priority, above anything else, was making sure there were no human survivors in the camp who could warn the outside world. It was of absolute importance that every human be either dead or assimilated. The helicopter was a liability because there was a chance that MacReady could survive long enough to wait out the weather and use the helicopter to escape. This could not be allowed to happen, the helicopter had to be destroyed and a new vehicle created that could not be operated by humans.
No mention of the 1951 movie The Thing from Another World? Yes it is limited because of the special effects of that day. I feel it is actually a prequel to John Carpenter's the thing. If can imagen that it is the Norwegian camp, because they remove it from the ship and bring it back to camp. John Carpenter kinda does a nod to this film in that the old video they are watching show them blasting the ice and the creature ice block thawed like in the 1951 film.
I saw The Thing on opening weekend in 1982 and it is STILL one of my top 3 favorite sci-fi/horror flicks of all time. I always wondered what would happen if they tried to talk to it? I mean, IF it belongs to a race that built it's spaceship then they're smart enough to communicate but, then again, maybe it wasn't a member of THAT race but another race that got on board? Oh, it wo😢 probably help if I saw the new one lol
The Thing is by far one of the greatest films of all time and maybe my favorite of all time. I waited too long to watch it. But I’m glad I did at all..
Loved the hybrid pure blood class dynamic between the vampires. I felt it gave a good layer of realism. I can't get behind the vampires wearing sunblock moment though.
Sweet! This movie is so well done! I love the break down videos of the movies that have been recently doing! There are perfect visual effects that come from this movie!
The Thing's ability to retain so much genetic memory may actually be a weakness for it because every individual cell has to retain all the genetic knowledge it ever acquired in order to shift into whatever it needs to survive, which to me means it has to reach some sort of threshold which limits its ability to copy other lifeforms. For instance , MacReady's quote, reading from Blair's journal -- "It could have imitated a million life forms on a million worlds, and now it wants life forms on Earth.". Someone wanna take this and run with it?
In the book the creature could read minds and feelings. And even hipnotize people with its gaze. It has in general a female kind of aspect in original form. And can replicate any organic form. In the novel Mac and the ones who stayed along the block of ice feel the creature is evil or want to make harm because it was trapped in ice for thousands of years, conscious of the passage of time. In the movie theres a line " its wake up, not in the best of moods" i like that is Just a brief line, but in general its describe the same concept. I think that the most important is recognize that the Thing is one being in the begining, not many, but when it feeds, yes, its eat its prey, and replicate its food on a celular level and then pretends to be the consumed to eat again. But i dont think one small particle of the thing can contaminated living beings. Because if this was a fact. It will cut his Hand an spill blood on the water system of the base. It wont be needing to reveal itself to feed. The cell thing it was just a Fuchs comment. But anyways. Its all a mystery!
Ok, "blue snake thing with three red eyes" does sound kinda cheesy... but man, that illustrator really knew how to make the best out of what he was given. That drawing is terrifying.
It's good thing that the alien pilot set it to crash in middle of Antarctica where nothing lives, (area where not even penguins live) when the Thing was trying fly the ship to literally anywhere else on the planet. Such a close call as the ship was approaching to Earth and there wasn't enough time to crash into sun or moon when the Thing was on the bridge/ control chamber. Imagine how the frustrated the Thing was as it crawls out of the wreckage, in the blizzard, can't find anything to infect and just roars in rage until getting frozen. Reason why I want to believe that not everyone onboard the ship was assimilated by the Thing and tried their best to stop it, is because why would the Thing voluntarily crash into Antarctica?
This movie is a lullaby for me. It sends me off to sweet dreams. Absolute top 5 favorite movies ever. This may be number 1 or 3. Or... Does it matter. I adore this movie. When I watch it, I feel cold. I feel worried. I don't know who I can trust lol. Absolutely amazing
Just watched this movie for the first thing, and thank you for making this video. I appreciate how you saw this as a great movie 😊 The dogs and their trainers did such a good job to make me feel so intense.
If it has all your memories and knowledge, does this mean you can be a Thing and not know it? Is a Thing aware that it is a Thing and it just pretends to be the human it's imitating until it gets caught? Or is it more like a sleeper agent that has to get activated, and up until that point it truly believes it is a human?
it pretends to be a human, tries to assimilate everyone stealthily or kill them, When threatened it transforms to defend itself, the things take over completely so when assimilation is 100% done the one assimilated is gone completely as they’ve been absorbed and replicated. also yeah things know they’re things
This video helped my understanding. Thank you! The Thing wouldn't be some pest found on a planet, it would be the entire planet sort of like the Dead Space worlds. Nothing could withstand it
Note also that Palmer has Windows alongside him, and can see that Windows is already turning in that direction. So there is no point pretending that head isn't there, because that just would just throw suspicion in Palmer's direction.
I still can’t actually imagine the process of how it copies you. I thought it essentially absorbed you but if only a small part of it can take you over how would that actually work. I always thought in the kennel it was trying to shoot an acid like substance on the dogs to then absorb them. It rips through your clothes so it’s not a slow process but a violent one.
That issue always bothered me. If a single thing cell can infect a whole organism, then the violent takeover doesn't make tactical sense. Just touch your victim in a non-suspicious manner, or infect the food or the water. That process doesn't leave any trace so you can infect anybody at a leisure pace without no one noticing. But every takeover we see in the movie is a violent one. The 'from a single cell theory' is just a possibility that Fuchs cautiously considered, but we don't see actual evidence of its validity in the movie itself. From that, i think we have two options (not mutually exclusive) 1) The thing has no intelligence of his own, and no allegiance with its 'kind' at all. When some requisites are met (proximity, isolation, danger, etc.) all individual cell things instinctively try to infect its victim, all at once, or, depending the circumstances, all of them that are close enough. That explains the explosive transformations. A single cell should suffice, but every cell wants to be the one. 2) The potential victim body actively fights against the infection, so a single cell can be destroyed by the immune system before it has a chance to spread enough. By overwhelming the defenses of the victim through violent takeover, assimilation is ensured. Returning to the thing's intelligence, i'm partial to the hypothesis mentioned in 1), that is, it has none. But, thanks to the perfect assimilation of every cell, the infected organism, as a whole, is as intelligent as it was before. The victim could indeed not know if he is infected or not. Still, the organism doesn't act as before, now having a extra subconscious motivation that it hadn't before. But probably the organism don't see anything wrong with that, because, from its perspective, those impulses and ideas come from its own mind, and can rationalize them away. But when the victim "things-out", its personality and intelligence are completely destroyed forever because the quick rearrangements of organs and tissue.
@@juanausensi499 I’m glad I’m not alone here. You make some great points. I never considered the Thing intelligent- more that it is quick to adapt and survive, that’s all it actually cares about. So I imagine it almost like a Ant colony or Bee hive. Individual cells don’t matter but the collective has just one focus to survive and changes to whatever is best suited to the environment. I think the scene where McReady scorches Palmers blood and it tries to escape shows that a small piece of this might survive but would struggle to overcome a fully conscious adult. Probably over thinking this. It doesn’t change the film but I always tried to imagine how it took over Palmer and co. PS: I also genuinely believe a person absorbed by the thing would believe they were human- as a perfect imitation. Scary thought.
I'd love to see some form of origins of what alien species it assimilated before, or what alien species it's already consumed to the point of extinction. Or even some form of alien hunters trying to track it down lol.
I wonder how the Space Marines from Aliens or the Predators would handle the Thing. Or imagine a Xenomorph/Thing combo. Throw in Sil from Species too. Now that's a movie.
Exterminatus on the entire planet as soon as it was established what was going on. Then probably the liquidation of anyone who could possibly be a thing. Tyranids vs The Thing would be insane. Stuff of actual nightmares. Likewise interesting to see how Chaos would interact with The Thing as it is seemingly soulless and would be immune like nids and necrons
I always thought of The Thing as having "lost" its own form. Between absorbing other organisms and traits it lost or forgot it's own shape. Or maybe it forgot it's original shape on purpose.
The one thing I can't understand is why the Thing didn't once try to communicate with the humans. If anything, it could have pretended to be ambivalent or even friendly to get them to lower their guard, then it could move around someone what freely.
It's alien. There is no guarantee that it thinks like a human would think, or even that it "thinks" in any way that we would recognize that word. It can MIMIC the thinking of the humans it assimilates, but even then it could be doing that instinctively rather than via sentience.
@@leeroyjenkins4456does the lion communicate with the zebra? The wolf with the deer? My interpretation of the thing is that it’s ravenously hungry after being frozen for so long and desperately wants to feed and consume as much biomass as possible as quickly as possible.
At the end of the video I honestly thought the other actors were 1 the thing survived and was going to attack the survivor 2 they still didn’t trust each other so they were going to fight Or 3 the main character is the thing one which would have surprised me ( pretty rare for 2 survivors at the end usually one )
I can't really think of a plausible reason why a Thing that comes across a single survivor would not simply attack and assimilate that survivor. From any logical point of view it would be better for it that there be Two Things, rather than One Thing And A Very Suspicious Human. No need to sit down and share a drink. No need to engage is some rather dark conversation. Just attack and assimilate with extreme prejudice. After all, Childs is armed and MacReady is not. If Childs were a Thing then it is a piss-poor excuse for a Thing.
@@johnreynolds7996 i believe this channel said the director was planning 2 or 3 different outcomes at the end 1 the thing surviving by taking the form of a dog 2 i believe the other options was the 2 actors fighting at the end of they both survive im not sure
@@johnreynolds7996because it would have had no reason to attack him, they only when threatened and the cold will have killed macready anyway, which the thing is aware of. Like blair, its just going to freeze itself. It didn’t care about killing anyone else because it has won, whether or not it assimilated macready. and maybe this one was actually curious? Every thing is a separate entity, not far fetched one would eventually just be curious and make a “conversation” for a stalemate, if you could call it that, they’re intelligent organisms. besides carpenter says that one of them was a thing and macready certainly is not one
@@user-mc3if9xs7w untrue, the dog-thing was not being "threarened" when it padded into Noriss's room and assimilated him, and Bennings was simply looking for something in the room when he had tentacles shoved where the sun don't shine. We never see when Palmer was Thinged, but we do know that it had to have happened before the Men were aware of the danger they were facing. Look, we KNOW a Thing will freeze in the cold. We KNOW that, and so does the Thing. What we DON'T KNOW - and neither does the Thing - is whether a Thing or a human succumbs to the cold first. Why risk MacReady taking the flamethrower from a Childs-Thing who is incapacitated by the cold, when it can assimilate him then and there? Makes no sense at all. As for "curiosity" or "caring", dude, it's an alien. Blair's computer projection is going to be way optimistic if Things start shooting the breeze when it's alone with people instead of getting on with the job. You may as well expect a zenomorph to sit down and play poker with Ripley and the crew.
@@johnreynolds7996yeah but so far McCready has also massacred every single thing he’s faced including the Blair-thing which was actually three people and a dog plus more alien bits and he blew that sky high too. The thing knows it can survive being frozen on a molecular level. It also knows that humans cannot. That if McCready freezes he is dead forever and the thing is not. Someone will come looking eventually and will take the bodies home to the civilisation. All the thing has to do is wait out McCready.
Harbinger Down is a fun movie for sure. It goes too far though trying to explain exactly what the monster is and fails. The idea of waterbears working together to do what the Thing does is pretty silly.
I have never even seen this movie. I’m just watching the video because I love the channel 😂 And I’m not going to complain about spoilers because I already know what happens. I have to say though… your videos are full of spoilers and they are usually pretty heavy! You should really think about that
All of the movie was great but there were a few parts that totally took me out. When they're operating on the heart attack, there was some great stuff but, of course, no one, especially a doctor would plunge the paddles down onto the chest. If he had had them on the chest, yelled "CLEAR!" and then hit the electricity and the creature was only mildly affected and then created a sharp-toothed maw to bite his hands off, it would've been more realistic and more exciting. Then Doc PULLS his arms out of the 'mouth', the kind of strength that would be needed to disconnect his bones from each other wouldn't be able to be gotten from ALL the guys pulling together; they could have made it so that it looked like the creature chomped through everything including his bones and that's why he pulls back stumps, it would have been more visceral also.
Apologies for the reupload, the last video got flagged and demonetised for gore. We kinda need ads on videos for the channel to survive so I hope you don't mind us reposting this. Thanks, Paul.
Don’t mind at all! Love your content! 👍🏾
@@BadNewsBella cheers mate
I'll watch it again then
Missed the first one, so I am gladly watching this one. I have seen all the stuff they probably made you remove, so I don’t feel cheated one bit. Glad I found your channel. Good stuff.
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I’ve lost count how many times I’ve seen The Thing and I think I love it a little bit more every time.
It’s such a perfectly crafted movie….just enough information missing to make you unsure exactly who is infected and when….which puts you in the shoes of the main characters.
That's one of the things I like about it. Every time I watch I think I notice something I didn't before.
You put it perfectly... it's perfectly crafted. It's one of the few films I consider perfect, nothing should be added, nothing taken away.. We're given just enough to figure things out... but at the same time not enough. The fact the film starts basically at the end of a story of people dealing with the monster adds so much weight to the mystery... the fact we don't know who is officially the Thing for sure even after dozens, and dozens of viewings.. I cant say for sure at times. Is insane. We don't know EXACTLY when everyone is killed/changed... the practical effects, the setting, the score, the ending.. it's a masterpiece if I've ever seen one. Perfect film... Predator is another I would consider perfect. Along with Alien, and others.
I just re-watched it for the thousandth time and saw something I have never noticed before....the scene where MacReady is testing everyone's blood...Windows uses a scalpel to cut everyone's thumb....but uses his pants to wipe it off after everyone is cut without sterilizing it imbetween. That should have made everyone that was human....a thing! It would just take time for the molecules of the thing to slowly replicate itself, thus why the blood test wouldn't immediately work, the thing hasn't had enough time to replicate within their bloodstreams yet.
Yeah it’s a glaring issue nobody ever seems to mention.
I’d have to rewatch to see the order than they cut their thumbs in but isn’t Palmer the only thing in the room at that point so if he goes last then everyone is fine
From memory I'm pretty sure it was only Palmer who was infected at that time so in this scenario it would only be people who's samples were taken after Palmer that would be infected by the scalpel. I can't remember the order in which the samples were collected or if the movie even gives us that information.
In the book Mcready sterilizes the blade with alcohol inbetween testing
Even I thought that
I've always been of the opinion that The Thing isn't actually a naturally occurring extraterrestrial lifeform at all, but rather a super mega bioweapon, developed and being transported by the alien race that created it, which broke free of whatever stasis or containment it was being held in, wiping out the crew of the spaceship carrying it until crash landing in Antarctica and freezing in the ice after crawling or being ejected from the wreck.
That makes sense. I like that idea for the thing’s origin.
One thing that I always had a question about - The “Norris” thing (the one revealed to be a thing when the electro-paddles were used on him) suffered a heart attack. Why would The Thing have a heart attack? Did it copy Norris so perfectly that it replicated his heart disease, too?
And if that was the case what else would it replicate? Emotions? Memories? Fears?
Also, if The Thing was alive and sentient on a microscopic level would it even rely on a human being’s organs to remain alive?
I believe it replicates all that.
Obviously the thing didn't have the internal organs copied. It looked like norris only from the outside. conclusion would be that it was a trap to kill the remaining crew?
@HR-yd5ib It seems in the case of Norris the Thing didn't replicate organs, or if it did then it quickly altered them into what we see in that scene. Tho when Blair is dissecting the one partially formed corpse, he does extract organs that are totally normal & fully formed. So I'm not entirely sure what this Thing is doing and how it typically functions. It's very possible that it simply isn't sensible, being a work of fiction, or perhaps there is some in universe explanation.
And yes, I think it could've totally been a trap to get the crew.
@@Zero-ei8jn badly thought through writing is certainly a possible explanation! ;-)
I think it was playing possum
I've collected a LOT of memorabilia on 'The Thing'. Movies, original theater poster, figures, books, comics, patches but there is one holy grail collectable that hasn't been made. I'd like someone to reproduce the original Thing being (the one with three red eyes) and it comes with a block of 'ice' that it can be displayed in. I've submitted my idea to quite a few manufacturers and still nothing to date. Great video.
Your original The Thing breakdowns is one of your best ever. Def want to see a breakdown of the 2011 version.
One of the best, if not the best sci-fi horror. My late Mum loved the film.
Rest in peace
Well it sounds like your mum had amazing taste! Rest in peace
This is pretty messed up, but if The Thing took your mum and allowed you to live with it as your mum, would you allow it to take the world, knowing it wasn't your mom? Just substitute someone else, it doesn't have to be your mum. I tried to think of a better way to phrase it to sound less bad, but I honestly would probably do so as long as no one found out it was my fault and I didn't have to deal with the downfall of civilization on my hands. Just a really light hearted thought experiment. Sorry for your loss btw, pretend it's not your mom.
@@look4lec My Mum would have loved your crazy idea!
You got my vote as the best.
I absolutely love The Thing! I'd love to see more breakdowns on anything to do with this film! The first time I watched it I knew nothing about it and it instantly became my favourite movie! Despite the lack of practical effects in the 2011 prequel I still think it's a pretty solid film in its own right and is completely underrated.
The prequel is underrated sure... but the horrible CG instead of bringing back Bottin, or getting someone like Rick Baker is why it's "HATED". The Thing is one of, if not my favorite film of all time... I watched the prequel (2011) once, and haven't watched it since... I'm going to soon since I'm craving John Carpenters as I always do this time of year.. I just remember thinking this CG ruins the film.
It's ghastly bad at times with the guys face in the helicopter I remember cringing, and when it's running down the hallway, it's just so bad, where I still do this day marvel at the original and how gorgeous (yet grotesque lol ) it is. Where the original is arguably the best practical effects of all time. CG sucks... and the prequel being a solid ass film, is RUINED because of it. The acting all around is great, the filming, everything.. it's the SFX that ruins it.
Could you imagine if it one upped the practical effects of the original? It would be praised to this day, and probably would've gotten a sequel somehow. Which I always wanted... I want to see The Thing sequel where rescue crew comes for Kurt Russell, and companies dead bodies... and see the film deal with The Thing coming to the United States, the mainland, and seeing a global takeover by this amazing horrifying creature...
@@ReadyPlayerTomVR
I completely agree, the CGI is awful, even for the time! It's a travesty they didn't use practical effects.
One way I found I could enjoy it was by watching it on DVD & an old TV (non hd) ironically the CGI looks better that way and you can just enjoy the story.
Obviously that's not necessarily the easiest way but a simple dvd version will look better than Blu-ray because the CGI isn't having to be upscaled, instead it's down scaled along with the source image making them blend together that much better.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU !
I ALSO FOUND ANOTHER THING VIDEO CALLED; “ WHO WAS THE PILOT OF THE “THINGS SPACESHIP REVEALED “
AND IT GOES THROUGH THE WHOLE 2011 THING PREQUEL MOVIE AND REVEALS ALL OF THE PRACTICAL EFFECTS AND FILMING THAT THEY ENDED UP DUMPING IN FAVOR OF CGI BECAUSE OF TIMING AND BUDGETING RESTRICTIONS
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ON ANOTHER CHANNEL IT GOES INTO DETAIL AND BREAKS DOWN WHO THE ORIGINAL OPERATORS AND PILOTS WERE ON THE ALIEN SPACESHIP AND THE PRACTICAL EFFECTS THEY HAD FOR THE ORIGINAL ALIENS WAS. COMPLETELY WEIRD,AND OUT OF THIS WORLD
I DO AGREE WITH YOU THAT PRACTICAL EFFECT LIKE REAL LIVE MANNEQUINS PUPPETS,REAL MODELS,ALWAYS BEAT CHI HANDS DOWN WHEN CHI FIRST STARTED APPEARING I SAID TO MYSELF OH NO MIVIE STUDIOS ARE GOING TO GET LAZY AND SAVE A LOT OF MONEY NOW
I didn't like the prequel. They basically retconned the whole thing and then just threw in the helicopter at the end. It should have shown the characters and how they dealt it the Thing and then finally realizing the dog is one of them, thereby chasing it and leading into the first movie. But instead they did the lazy way. And what about Kate and the vehicles at the ship? We never saw that or her in the first movie. Dumb and lazy IMHO.
This movie is so amazing, I watched it so many times, and never get bored. I has an intense and claustrophobic vibe.
Thanks for this one. This is in my top 10 movies of all time. Way near the top.
Yes, we need more. The Thing is one of my favorite horror movie. Since I was a kid. Top 3 easily. I would love to learn more about it. I bet, I'm not the only one.
The Thing is more terrifying than any alien, demon, vampire, werewolf, or serial killer, or zombie, as The Thing take over any and all of them!!!!
@@randybarnett2308 everything is the thing ? ... Wow
It obviously wasn't building a "space ship". No matter your intelligence, you're not making a flying saucer that can reach orbit out of helicopter and snow-Cat parts powered by the diesel, AvGas, and kerosene fuel available in the camp. It was making some sort of vehicle that would cross the ice to reach another settlement, or possibly cross the ocean to reach civilization.
Yes, it was to reach civilization, not space. It even has a forward thrust that would glide it across water and ice like a hover craft boat.
Why didn’t it just use the chopper then?
@@Aristocat-123 The incoming storm aside, it had been discovered and couldn't just leave. The first priority, above anything else, was making sure there were no human survivors in the camp who could warn the outside world. It was of absolute importance that every human be either dead or assimilated. The helicopter was a liability because there was a chance that MacReady could survive long enough to wait out the weather and use the helicopter to escape. This could not be allowed to happen, the helicopter had to be destroyed and a new vehicle created that could not be operated by humans.
@@Sporkmaker5150 that actually makes sense. Thanks buddy
@@Aristocat-123blaire wasn't a pilot
A fave movie that I continue to rave to folk about when cinema comes up in conversation.
Love these retro breakdowns. John Carpenter is one of my favourite directors and I'd love it if you did a breakdown on the original halloween
Glad you mentioned the audio book is available on RUclips, much thanks
No mention of the 1951 movie The Thing from Another World? Yes it is limited because of the special effects of that day. I feel it is actually a prequel to John Carpenter's the thing. If can imagen that it is the Norwegian camp, because they remove it from the ship and bring it back to camp. John Carpenter kinda does a nod to this film in that the old video they are watching show them blasting the ice and the creature ice block thawed like in the 1951 film.
I saw The Thing on opening weekend in 1982 and it is STILL one of my top 3 favorite sci-fi/horror flicks of all time. I always wondered what would happen if they tried to talk to it? I mean, IF it belongs to a race that built it's spaceship then they're smart enough to communicate but, then again, maybe it wasn't a member of THAT race but another race that got on board?
Oh, it wo😢 probably help if I saw the new one lol
The Thing is by far one of the greatest films of all time and maybe my favorite of all time. I waited too long to watch it. But I’m glad I did at all..
Loved the hybrid pure blood class dynamic between the vampires. I felt it gave a good layer of realism. I can't get behind the vampires wearing sunblock moment though.
Great video gonna enjoy for the 2nd time ❤
Thank you
Absolutely love this film, this was the one movie that opened up my mind to horro cinema, and few other movies have lived up to the standard it set
Sweet! This movie is so well done! I love the break down videos of the movies that have been recently doing! There are perfect visual effects that come from this movie!
Already rewatching now!!!
This is my favorite movie. Always something to learn when rewatching
The Thing's ability to retain so much genetic memory may actually be a weakness for it because every individual cell has to retain all the genetic knowledge it ever acquired in order to shift into whatever it needs to survive, which to me means it has to reach some sort of threshold which limits its ability to copy other lifeforms.
For instance , MacReady's quote, reading from Blair's journal -- "It could have imitated a million life forms on a million worlds, and now it wants life forms on Earth.".
Someone wanna take this and run with it?
In the book the creature could read minds and feelings. And even hipnotize people with its gaze. It has in general a female kind of aspect in original form. And can replicate any organic form. In the novel Mac and the ones who stayed along the block of ice feel the creature is evil or want to make harm because it was trapped in ice for thousands of years, conscious of the passage of time.
In the movie theres a line " its wake up, not in the best of moods" i like that is Just a brief line, but in general its describe the same concept.
I think that the most important is recognize that the Thing is one being in the begining, not many, but when it feeds, yes, its eat its prey, and replicate its food on a celular level and then pretends to be the consumed to eat again. But i dont think one small particle of the thing can contaminated living beings. Because if this was a fact. It will cut his Hand an spill blood on the water system of the base. It wont be needing to reveal itself to feed. The cell thing it was just a Fuchs comment.
But anyways. Its all a mystery!
This movie is one of the greatest Sci Fi movies ever made...thanks for the insights and giving me some new insights to one of my favourite movies,
I think it's the ultimate bio weapon from a very advanced alien civilization. Maybe "the thing" is the great filter.
I finished this lastnight and was blown away. It's incredible.
Ok, "blue snake thing with three red eyes" does sound kinda cheesy... but man, that illustrator really knew how to make the best out of what he was given. That drawing is terrifying.
It's good thing that the alien pilot set it to crash in middle of Antarctica where nothing lives, (area where not even penguins live) when the Thing was trying fly the ship to literally anywhere else on the planet. Such a close call as the ship was approaching to Earth and there wasn't enough time to crash into sun or moon when the Thing was on the bridge/ control chamber.
Imagine how the frustrated the Thing was as it crawls out of the wreckage, in the blizzard, can't find anything to infect and just roars in rage until getting frozen.
Reason why I want to believe that not everyone onboard the ship was assimilated by the Thing and tried their best to stop it, is because why would the Thing voluntarily crash into Antarctica?
Thanks Paul for making another movie breakdown video about The Thing (1982).
This movie is a lullaby for me. It sends me off to sweet dreams. Absolute top 5 favorite movies ever. This may be number 1 or 3. Or... Does it matter. I adore this movie. When I watch it, I feel cold. I feel worried. I don't know who I can trust lol. Absolutely amazing
Just watched this movie for the first thing, and thank you for making this video. I appreciate how you saw this as a great movie 😊
The dogs and their trainers did such a good job to make me feel so intense.
If it has all your memories and knowledge, does this mean you can be a Thing and not know it? Is a Thing aware that it is a Thing and it just pretends to be the human it's imitating until it gets caught? Or is it more like a sleeper agent that has to get activated, and up until that point it truly believes it is a human?
Have you ever even seen the movie?
@@GG-kn2se Yeah.
it pretends to be a human, tries to assimilate everyone stealthily or kill them, When threatened it transforms to defend itself, the things take over completely so when assimilation is 100% done the one assimilated is gone completely as they’ve been absorbed and replicated.
also yeah things know they’re things
This video helped my understanding. Thank you!
The Thing wouldn't be some pest found on a planet, it would be the entire planet sort of like the Dead Space worlds. Nothing could withstand it
I feel like I just saw this video yesterday but hey, I’ll watch it again 🤷♂️
The thing will make your head crawl!
Carpenter is a genius, one of the best directors there ever was.
I forgot I saw this once before and rewatched anyways.
One of my favorites. Before CGI
I like to think Palmer thing pointed out the spider head thing because he just couldn’t believe how stupid the head thing was just trying to run away
Note also that Palmer has Windows alongside him, and can see that Windows is already turning in that direction.
So there is no point pretending that head isn't there, because that just would just throw suspicion in Palmer's direction.
I still can’t actually imagine the process of how it copies you. I thought it essentially absorbed you but if only a small part of it can take you over how would that actually work.
I always thought in the kennel it was trying to shoot an acid like substance on the dogs to then absorb them.
It rips through your clothes so it’s not a slow process but a violent one.
That issue always bothered me. If a single thing cell can infect a whole organism, then the violent takeover doesn't make tactical sense. Just touch your victim in a non-suspicious manner, or infect the food or the water. That process doesn't leave any trace so you can infect anybody at a leisure pace without no one noticing.
But every takeover we see in the movie is a violent one. The 'from a single cell theory' is just a possibility that Fuchs cautiously considered, but we don't see actual evidence of its validity in the movie itself.
From that, i think we have two options (not mutually exclusive)
1) The thing has no intelligence of his own, and no allegiance with its 'kind' at all. When some requisites are met (proximity, isolation, danger, etc.) all individual cell things instinctively try to infect its victim, all at once, or, depending the circumstances, all of them that are close enough. That explains the explosive transformations. A single cell should suffice, but every cell wants to be the one.
2) The potential victim body actively fights against the infection, so a single cell can be destroyed by the immune system before it has a chance to spread enough. By overwhelming the defenses of the victim through violent takeover, assimilation is ensured.
Returning to the thing's intelligence, i'm partial to the hypothesis mentioned in 1), that is, it has none. But, thanks to the perfect assimilation of every cell, the infected organism, as a whole, is as intelligent as it was before. The victim could indeed not know if he is infected or not. Still, the organism doesn't act as before, now having a extra subconscious motivation that it hadn't before. But probably the organism don't see anything wrong with that, because, from its perspective, those impulses and ideas come from its own mind, and can rationalize them away. But when the victim "things-out", its personality and intelligence are completely destroyed forever because the quick rearrangements of organs and tissue.
@@juanausensi499 I’m glad I’m not alone here. You make some great points. I never considered the Thing intelligent- more that it is quick to adapt and survive, that’s all it actually cares about. So I imagine it almost like a Ant colony or Bee hive. Individual cells don’t matter but the collective has just one focus to survive and changes to whatever is best suited to the environment.
I think the scene where McReady scorches Palmers blood and it tries to escape shows that a small piece of this might survive but would struggle to overcome a fully conscious adult.
Probably over thinking this. It doesn’t change the film but I always tried to imagine how it took over Palmer and co.
PS: I also genuinely believe a person absorbed by the thing would believe they were human- as a perfect imitation. Scary thought.
I cant remember what year but Universal Orlando's Halloween Horror Nights did a house based on the Thing that took place after the movies
Best movie ever
this movie is my all time fav movie its the best
Yeah it’s amazing, thanks for checking out the video
Awesome theme song.
Thanks… I was going to use my head but I figured somebody else has probably done the thinking already… 🤓👍
Damn thought it was Another vid on the thing!😂 one of my all time fav movies. For me...its up there with The Godfather, Jaws, Alien/aliens...
Love how you covered this 🫡🙌🏼
More videos on the Thing please Paul. Monster, monster film!
Hell yeah, been looking forward to this thanks Paul.
Did you delete and repost this? Swear I seen it the other day, went to watch it after work and it wasn’t there!!!
I'd love to see some form of origins of what alien species it assimilated before, or what alien species it's already consumed to the point of extinction. Or even some form of alien hunters trying to track it down lol.
Hey Paul, when you gonna do the rest of The Bad Batch season 2??? Love your work pal!
It’s crazy to think that this movie, which is a sci-fi masterpiece, received horrible reviews when it was released.
That's because movie critics are largely college kids who passed journalism but failed film.
Pretty informative, thanks
Thanks for the info
When I see a good looking thing video, I instantly click!
One of my favorite movies ever made.
Top 10 movies of all time
Heey guy, great content. Is there any chance you can do a Battle Royale breakdown and ending?🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
Great movie, unfortunately in México it is not available in any paying app, you need an additional payment yo see it
Deja vu!
Thanks Paul.
I wonder how the Space Marines from Aliens or the Predators would handle the Thing. Or imagine a Xenomorph/Thing combo. Throw in Sil from Species too. Now that's a movie.
Exterminatus on the entire planet as soon as it was established what was going on. Then probably the liquidation of anyone who could possibly be a thing.
Tyranids vs The Thing would be insane. Stuff of actual nightmares. Likewise interesting to see how Chaos would interact with The Thing as it is seemingly soulless and would be immune like nids and necrons
Definitely do more Thing videos
I really love the comics. Please break those down soon!
That's what I all do you think you could do a deep dive on escape from New York also with Kurt
Yes, yes...talk about Return Of The Thing.
Woah thx
I always thought of The Thing as having "lost" its own form. Between absorbing other organisms and traits it lost or forgot it's own shape. Or maybe it forgot it's original shape on purpose.
ABSOLUTELY BREAK IT ALL DOWN !!!!
excellent film, top 100 list.
Would you ever be doing a video on ...Prince of darkness
Do a video on 1978 invasion of the body snatchers.
I watch the newer one 1st and then the original. I like how they tied it in to the original. We need some kind of pre Prequel lol
YTube is getting serious with their strikes again. This is the 4th sub that has had to reupload in a month
The one thing I can't understand is why the Thing didn't once try to communicate with the humans. If anything, it could have pretended to be ambivalent or even friendly to get them to lower their guard, then it could move around someone what freely.
This is the things first interaction with humans though it doesn't really know whether we would immediately perceive it as a threat or be friendly
I'm talking about the prequel movie where it was the things first interacting with humans
It's alien. There is no guarantee that it thinks like a human would think, or even that it "thinks" in any way that we would recognize that word.
It can MIMIC the thinking of the humans it assimilates, but even then it could be doing that instinctively rather than via sentience.
@@leeroyjenkins4456does the lion communicate with the zebra? The wolf with the deer? My interpretation of the thing is that it’s ravenously hungry after being frozen for so long and desperately wants to feed and consume as much biomass as possible as quickly as possible.
At the end of the video I honestly thought the other actors were
1 the thing survived and was going to attack the survivor
2 they still didn’t trust each other so they were going to fight
Or 3 the main character is the thing one which would have surprised me
( pretty rare for 2 survivors at the end usually one )
I can't really think of a plausible reason why a Thing that comes across a single survivor would not simply attack and assimilate that survivor.
From any logical point of view it would be better for it that there be Two Things, rather than One Thing And A Very Suspicious Human.
No need to sit down and share a drink.
No need to engage is some rather dark conversation.
Just attack and assimilate with extreme prejudice.
After all, Childs is armed and MacReady is not. If Childs were a Thing then it is a piss-poor excuse for a Thing.
@@johnreynolds7996 i believe this channel said the director was planning 2 or 3 different outcomes at the end 1
the thing surviving by taking the form of a dog
2 i believe the other options was the 2 actors fighting at the end of they both survive im not sure
@@johnreynolds7996because it would have had no reason to attack him, they only when threatened and the cold will have killed macready anyway, which the thing is aware of. Like blair, its just going to freeze itself. It didn’t care about killing anyone else because it has won, whether or not it assimilated macready.
and maybe this one was actually curious? Every thing is a separate entity, not far fetched one would eventually just be curious and make a “conversation” for a stalemate, if you could call it that, they’re intelligent organisms. besides carpenter says that one of them was a thing and macready certainly is not one
@@user-mc3if9xs7w untrue, the dog-thing was not being "threarened" when it padded into Noriss's room and assimilated him, and Bennings was simply looking for something in the room when he had tentacles shoved where the sun don't shine.
We never see when Palmer was Thinged, but we do know that it had to have happened before the Men were aware of the danger they were facing.
Look, we KNOW a Thing will freeze in the cold. We KNOW that, and so does the Thing. What we DON'T KNOW - and neither does the Thing - is whether a Thing or a human succumbs to the cold first.
Why risk MacReady taking the flamethrower from a Childs-Thing who is incapacitated by the cold, when it can assimilate him then and there?
Makes no sense at all.
As for "curiosity" or "caring", dude, it's an alien. Blair's computer projection is going to be way optimistic if Things start shooting the breeze when it's alone with people instead of getting on with the job.
You may as well expect a zenomorph to sit down and play poker with Ripley and the crew.
@@johnreynolds7996yeah but so far McCready has also massacred every single thing he’s faced including the Blair-thing which was actually three people and a dog plus more alien bits and he blew that sky high too. The thing knows it can survive being frozen on a molecular level. It also knows that humans cannot. That if McCready freezes he is dead forever and the thing is not. Someone will come looking eventually and will take the bodies home to the civilisation. All the thing has to do is wait out McCready.
One of my favorite movies.❤
Please more thing videos
I’m a simple man. I see videos on the thing and the shining and I click em.
SUBBED!
More thing content please :)
Do Harbinger Down next please.
Harbinger Down is a fun movie for sure. It goes too far though trying to explain exactly what the monster is and fails. The idea of waterbears working together to do what the Thing does is pretty silly.
@@MrFurious176 I agree. But it is still a good movie.
I have never even seen this movie. I’m just watching the video because I love the channel 😂 And I’m not going to complain about spoilers because I already know what happens. I have to say though… your videos are full of spoilers and they are usually pretty heavy! You should really think about that
i have The Thing already on dvd and i purchased it
All of the movie was great but there were a few parts that totally took me out. When they're operating on the heart attack, there was some great stuff but, of course, no one, especially a doctor would plunge the paddles down onto the chest. If he had had them on the chest, yelled "CLEAR!" and then hit the electricity and the creature was only mildly affected and then created a sharp-toothed maw to bite his hands off, it would've been more realistic and more exciting.
Then Doc PULLS his arms out of the 'mouth', the kind of strength that would be needed to disconnect his bones from each other wouldn't be able to be gotten from ALL the guys pulling together; they could have made it so that it looked like the creature chomped through everything including his bones and that's why he pulls back stumps, it would have been more visceral also.
It’s even better a second time 😂
Thank you haha
Yes I agree its the best horror movie of all time
The thing becoming furniture would just make it a Dnd mimic.
Best sci fi horror movie ever ....I'd love a sequel...
Is Frozen Hell still a go?
Break it all down!
Explain its changes of mass 😄
I would like to know about the other versions
the thing is terrifying
Was just thinking this organism is potentially more effective than a xenomorph. Thing could actually assimilate a xenomorph?
The answer is right on the front of the DvD box . Chiles is the Thing .