What Is Epistemic Trust & What Happens When It’s Broken? | Dr. Daniel Gaztambide

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  • Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024

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  • @bluest1524
    @bluest1524 11 месяцев назад +12

    Really good example about his time in France, and assumptions about the care he would receive. I like this doctor, hope to hear more from him. Thank you.

  • @DrMark7
    @DrMark7 11 месяцев назад +12

    Thank you for posting this segment. Very clear and helpful. Not only pertinent to mental health, but also addresses the human condition.

  • @stoneneils
    @stoneneils 5 месяцев назад +3

    Woah! That was a breakthrough moment for me at 1:45...its true...i never had someone who i knew was thinking about me. My parents even told me out of sight out of mind..they'd forget me places..miss my school/camp meetings...my career was ignored even. Now my BPD makes even more sense.

  • @lorenzrosenthal119
    @lorenzrosenthal119 11 месяцев назад +5

    4:00 there's even another mode: when bumping your head slightly the mother would come running and over-dramatically screaming "Are you okay???" and then give you a huge pile of pity and making a scene out of nothing "Awwww that must've heard! You poor little!".
    That also undermines many things including trust in her and yourself.

    • @hanswoast7
      @hanswoast7 Месяц назад +1

      Not having truthful, validating and de-escalating feedback can derail a person easily, especially if you are still learning of developing in that area.

  • @paulcoyle3765
    @paulcoyle3765 11 месяцев назад +10

    Epistemic distrust may not be a good thing in personal relationships, but I think it is a wise attitude to adopt when dealing with politicians, particularly the ones who ask you to trust them.

    • @jewishgenes
      @jewishgenes 11 месяцев назад

      If one treats politics as a subject among many other subjects of life it allows one to study it as a subject and like everything else it is added to your bookshelf to reference.

    • @jewishgenes
      @jewishgenes 11 месяцев назад +1

      Dammit I was following him deeply until the ideology crept in and stole his intellect.
      Can you share the news network that shared that type of commentary on neighbors? That’s fucking unbelievable.
      I don’t feel divided. Do you? I decided not to feel that way and magically I don’t feel that way.

  • @accordionSWE
    @accordionSWE 11 месяцев назад +3

    As a layman I got this mental picture that America was built by people from the Old World that were at odds with both their community and their families so they had to move overseas to survive.

  • @JeremiahsMouth
    @JeremiahsMouth 10 месяцев назад +3

    Really good content so far, but I only got just past 6:23 and went straight to the comments to see what people said...but they disappointed. 😂 Don't blame the chair! I don't want to hear it! 😂

    • @hanswoast7
      @hanswoast7 Месяц назад +1

      Ideas need to move freely in all directions :)

  • @Griot-Guild
    @Griot-Guild Месяц назад

    The ending of this was huge! Great message but i think itll trigger people amd they'll miss it smh

  • @jenniferh.7219
    @jenniferh.7219 28 дней назад

    Narcissistic and borderline parents I believe my epistemic trust was hurt from the core. I don't really have it.

  • @aryelleweeks3413
    @aryelleweeks3413 9 месяцев назад

    God I wish I could see Charlotte see him or Dr. Porr..

  • @3nrika
    @3nrika 11 месяцев назад +5

    If experience has taught me anything, it's that other people cannot be trusted. But it's a bit of an over-generalisation of course. We're incentivised to compete at a systemic level, and school lends little to no relevance to morality and ethics. Only the law defines our limitations. Civility and respect cannot be legislated, so these virtues become omitted. At the end of the day, it's a cut-throat , everything-goes civil war with added monetary representation. I'm at a loss that we've settled for this, even as we're destroying the planet.

    • @DarkMoonWayfarer
      @DarkMoonWayfarer 7 месяцев назад +1

      Interesting comment. I've come to the conclusion that capitalism is based on an incorrect observation of nature. There are many ideas that are accepted without question which causes blind spots.
      But the major flaw in thinking to me is the idea of survival of the fittest. Yes, the natural world can be brutal and this idea reflects a partial truth, but nature is also supportive and nurturing.
      Animals work together, even differing species work towards a common goal. Plants are the same, it's not all competition for resources. In forests, plants can share nutrients with one another through the underground mycelium network. Plants send distress signals when under attack which creates responses from other plants and certain insects.
      Capitalism at it's core is every man for himself. It's survival of the fittest.
      It does not work in its current form but try and bring that up with anyone and you will be a communist....perhaps we haven't yet discovered a system that would work better?
      Capitalism benefits psychopaths who will do whatever it takes to get to the top. It turns people into self centred narcissists.
      I cannot see people moving away from this system, it has too much momentum and there's too much denial and avoidance of looking at real issues.
      I think that the system will eat itself. It's basically a pyramid funneling energy upwards while eroding the stability of its base.
      Modern civilization is powered by fossil fuels and we are acting like there's an infinite supply. What kind of people build a way of life based on a finite resource that took millions of years to form and burn through most of it in a century or so? It's literally insane behaviour. If we were smart we would have used that limited energy wisely and created a sustainable way of life.
      I think of it a bit like yeast during the fermentation process when making beer. There's a lot of activity when the sugars are present and once those sugars are all consumed, the yeast sinks to the bottom.
      Oil and coal are our sugars and the result has been hyperactivity for the last couple of hundred years. This is temporary and things will slow down and in many cases come to a screeching halt.
      The world will seem like a bigger place again and we will have to return to some basic ways of living.

    • @3nrika
      @3nrika 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@DarkMoonWayfarer Thank you. Yes I've even made the same point and observation in regards to the failure to imitate natural selection in capitalist ideology.
      For those of us who happen to be well-acquainted with nature, be it directly through our livelihood as farmers and landscapers or professionally as biologists or in related fields, it is just blatantly wrong to conceive of survival of the fittest as competition within a pyramid structure. Human beings invented the pyramids thousands of years ago out of primitive psychology and lack of self-understanding. The fittest in nature coexist in innumerable symbiotic ways simultaneously, flying entirely in the face of this misconceptualised and distorted version of survival of the fittest which even Darwin at his time rebutted and considered nonsensical. It literally went into the pseudoscience bin several hundred years ago. He would writhe in his grave to learn we ended up using HIS NAME in 'Darwinism' to justify capitalism and smear and distort his scientific contributions.
      The bastardised version of "survival of the fittest" in reality generates offspring with mental illness, undermines the exact virtues that made human beings strong in community, destroys the environment and our own habitat and makes us, the land and the animals sick.
      It is the inverse of fitness - decrepitness, fragility, feebleness, weakness and disease.

  • @kristinmeyer489
    @kristinmeyer489 11 месяцев назад +1

    5:19 ...OR, BECAUSE OF YOUR LONG-TERM TARGETING...

  • @NoHurriesNoWorries
    @NoHurriesNoWorries 6 месяцев назад +2

    How the heck did this become political? I just want to know how this relates to mental illness.

  • @LOVEisTHEultimateLAW
    @LOVEisTHEultimateLAW 11 месяцев назад

    🎯Who put great thrust will be greatly deceived.

  • @karlijnlike4lane
    @karlijnlike4lane 11 месяцев назад +3

    interesting - yr taking the route of disordered cultural/political/systemic "attachment."
    3:45 ice cream. as if. but if you split yr head open - or even if you are simply *in a lot of pain,*: - maybe they didn't see the details of what happened and therefore don't understand or believe that your pain & need for comfort is as great as your upset seems to them to indicate; or maybe, as a caregiver, they simply don't have the care to give, or ability to respond, or mental space for the needs of a dependent, and *need you to be willing to walk it off* in order to protect themselves from pressures & demands they can't tolerate - and they see you in a lot of pain but deny comfort, "there's nothing wrong with you," you are not in a position to choose whether or not to trust what the caregiver is saying! you don't have a frame of reference yet! you don't know any better than what you're told, by someone you have no choice but to trust! so what you learn is "oh having this amount of pain is somehow *normal* - or, at least, it doesn't warrant comforting or care from the person in control of my world [i.e. IRL, they can't or don't want to] - & therefore to seek care or comfort for pain, no matter how severe or confusing, is to invite rejection." & this is how you get people who would rather suffer and "deal with it" than confront and struggle with a health careless system, and all other systems, that actually *is* biased against the subjective experience of pain & triggers that insecure attachment.

    • @fatymah1138
      @fatymah1138 6 месяцев назад

      this is valid also

    • @Elizabethpepper8
      @Elizabethpepper8 Месяц назад

      The main flaw with your comment is not considering all this is originating inside a childs mind. This knowledge doesn't exist for context yet.

  • @Fischer67
    @Fischer67 6 месяцев назад

    "Epistemic Trust" sounds a bit like a "white mold".

  • @mvpmikey
    @mvpmikey 7 месяцев назад +2

    I understood nothing, lol. I'm so dumb.

    • @hanswoast7
      @hanswoast7 Месяц назад +2

      nah, that is normal. understanding always feels hard and takes more time than just learning by heart. most lessons need a minimum of knowledge or experience before you have a chance of understanding.

  • @sdkfz2519
    @sdkfz2519 5 месяцев назад +3

    This "Dr." is so polarizing, political, and biased that I stopped watching the video halfway.
    For God's sake this channel is a psychology channel for BPD, not a woke. Identity politics and revolutionary ideology class!

    • @paulitoLdn
      @paulitoLdn 2 месяца назад

      Bless you. I wish you healing on your journey. Your response screams the fragility that comes from never having needed to consider any other perspective or experience other than your own.

    • @hanswoast7
      @hanswoast7 Месяц назад +1

      his input is still sound, even if you replace the woke stuff with whatever topic could have the same effect but fits in your world view. It is not perfect, but workable :)

  • @stoneneils
    @stoneneils 5 месяцев назад

    I'm pro mask and vaccine but still...the irony of talking about trust while wearing a mask is just too funny.

  • @karenhathaway1631
    @karenhathaway1631 11 месяцев назад +2

    Why did he not just google it? Or check with somebody (Hotel/hostel reception) or call his vacation insurance company. I feel that was not a good example, that just smacks of a dumb move.

    • @paulcoyle3765
      @paulcoyle3765 11 месяцев назад

      We don't know when this was. Perhaps it was in an age before google existed, hard as that may be to imagine now. And it may also be possible he didn't have holiday insurance.

  • @cht2162
    @cht2162 11 месяцев назад

    Why go to France when you can't speak the language and have no one with you who can? Problem due to lack of epistemic trust.

  • @user-ju7ze9to4k
    @user-ju7ze9to4k 3 месяца назад +2

    Post modern neo liberal gibberish enough already please

    • @philwohlrab7588
      @philwohlrab7588 2 месяца назад

      The Federal Government spends more on Healthcare than France. So it's not a spending issue. We have to ask where the money is going. And um.. this guy saw a US doctor. How is he not now bankrupt?

    • @theelderskatesman4417
      @theelderskatesman4417 2 месяца назад +2

      What is the satisfaction you gain from attacking things you don't understand? (your symptom is showing)

  • @ma32851
    @ma32851 11 месяцев назад +2

    A mask? Seriously?

    • @paulcoyle3765
      @paulcoyle3765 11 месяцев назад +7

      This was probably filmed during the pandemic

    • @PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim
      @PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim 11 месяцев назад +5

      you sound offended. you ok?

    • @ma32851
      @ma32851 11 месяцев назад

      @PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim Yes thanks! Never been vaxed, had covid once, and i'm doing great. P.S. masks never worked.

    • @BorderlinerNotes
      @BorderlinerNotes  11 месяцев назад +7

      Yup - filmed during the pandemic - seriously, a mask!

    • @Fischer67
      @Fischer67 6 месяцев назад

      @@BorderlinerNotes Ok, there are things under the "mask of sanity" as Arno Gruen put it. Stretching, so to say.

  • @irubberyouglueonethousand5384
    @irubberyouglueonethousand5384 11 месяцев назад +1

    I never feel heard. All my life I've been ignored lol