The Exhaust valves are at the front & inlet at the rear, not that it makes any difference if you've set them all to the same clearance but most people set the exhaust 0.02mm larger than what the inlet clearance is set to
pgtips, many thanks for the correction. This was one of those projects you work on and poke at it the worse it gets. I'll pin your comment and hopefully others will read it. Mea culpa...
@@urmomsahoe1 because that side of the engine runs hotter with the hot gases leaving the cylinder through the valves but on the opposite side of the head the intake is treated to nice cool fresh air with a shower of cooling petrol for the intake valves to bask in. Less metal expansion so the clearance can be a little closer without any valve bounce occuring.
I have been a Porsche factory trained mechanic for 68 years. I d like to complement you on your training skills. You make it clear and leave no questions needed.
Well, thank you very much. By no means am I a trained tech. I've just fumbled my way with wrenching on bikes for 45 years. You comment is very much appreciated! Eric
thank you very much for this vid kraken - the 135 i bought in june wouldnt hold idle cold. ran through the gamut of problems and finally gutted up thanks to your video here and did the valve adjustment. there was NO clearance on the front valves at all. got that all fixed and its like a whole new bike now. you rock!!!
Second time using this tutorial to do my own bike so thanks for that. Point to note, the spark plugs can be taken out using the same socket on each side, with the exception that the right hand side has a sleeve held in with a circlip. It is the circlip that obstructs the socket going in. You can carefull use proper circlip pliers to remove the circlip and get the spark plug out. Just be sure to get the circlip back in and seated properly on reassembly.
I just purchased a tnt 135 and had trouble finding the value clearance specs. I was a motorcycle tech for 20 years and your video is well done for anyone to use whether it be a beginner or some who has turned wrenches for years. Thanks for value specs ! Great video!
Hey Kraken!! I am a HGV driver, plasterer and section commander, from the Army in my younger days they are my strong points.Now performing surgery on a bike i like quibbling Jelly.You my friend have enlightened us with thoroughness and diligence in your videos.Hell i think i could give this a go if i need too.I know doing the videos take a long time brother but they really are appreciated by all thank you.
Ricky, you are most welcome and it's comments like this that make it worth while. If you get jammed up him me up and I'll do my best to help you. Ride swift, ride safe. Eric
Thank you for the great video… Was extremely helpful. I will add a couple of things that I found through my experience, 1: you don’t need to remove the spark plugs. I was able to get everything lined up no problem without doing that. And 2 I set them right in the middle of the range at .09 mm… and had no problem locking the bolt back down if I left the feeler gauge in place while tightening the locknut. Doing that maintains the gap and does not bite down on the gauge too hard….it doesn’t get stuck in there. My $0.02 👍🏽
Excellent suggestions! Why didn't I think of leaving the feeler gauge in while titening down. I appreciate your sound advice. Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks! 😂
Excellent job, Eric! Thank you for listening to your subscribers and for taking that huge amount of time to make it so understandable! Big thumbs up to you!
I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on getting this bike over the z125 pro. This video is very encouraging as there is little content for this bike so far. Thanks for taking the time to educate the community
Juan, thanks so much for that reply. My TnT content is meant to help a possible purchaser of this bike. You can't go wrong with either Z125 or the TnT. Ride safe, ride swift. Eric 🦑
You have no idea how frustrated I was shooting this video. I just couldn't get a straight answer from anyone. The latest update of the service manual has the info in it now. Let me know if you need it, I have it stored in my dropbox. Eric
Thanks for sharing this with all the details. My bike has 900+ kms now and I need all the info I can get before I work on it. Benelli dealerships in my area are limited.
I hope they help you on your ownership. I have the most recent service manual and parts manual uploaded on dropbox should you need it. Thanks for watching. Eric
I had been looking for parts for my bike that I just acquired just over a month ago from writing this. Thanks for all the info on how to maintain my 2022 tnt135
checked mine at 740 miles, all where within spec. checked them 4 months later at 2800 miles. Glad I didn't wait till the 5000 mile inspection. Both exhaust valves were tight, couldn't even get the .08 in there. Intakes were both on the loose end of the spectrum.
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures Just checked again at 4,565 miles. exhaust TIGHT AGAIN, Couldn't even get an .06 in them! The bike had seemed to be running hotter, and had less power. Intakes were within spec, but one a little on the loose side. So I set it too. Runs like new again. Also when I set it on T1, I also check the timing gear, it has a mark that lines up at the top (12 O'clock) and easier to turn it real slow with a wrench ( clock wise) than using the rear wheel.
Right on Carlos! I just posted another TnT video with a link to my Dropbox to download the latest updated service manual which has the correct settings for the valves. I hope it helps you. Eric
Excellent video Eric, showing people how to do a little “bit of voodoo” that most are gun shy to try. I make that “special tool” with a square headed wood screw and a piece of dowel. The square is a 3mm square drive very common at most home centers. My personal one I have wrapped in heat shrink for a bit of added grip on the wood dowel. I then use an open ended wrench to lock the lock nut.
Square sockets are available and in most comprehensive sets. To hold the screw while you use a wrench to snug the nut. Also you can skip the timing mark check since you can see the cam position on this one. Just put the cam lobe opposite the rocker and you will be good to adjust. Always check what the existing clearance is before you start. IT might be fine, OR it might have closed up. Which is bad.
Really good advise. I'm not a pro at this but did my best to get some help to many owners that have this bike. Thanks for watching and stopping by. Eric
Thanks for this video. Ease of access for doing things like valve adjustments is always important. This bike doesn't seem to be too bad, especially compared to my suzuki vstrom.
Some bikes seem to have no thought put into the servicing of it. The TnT is a great platform for someone to learn how to wrench on. Thanks for watching Brian.
You can tighten fasteners with your cordless ratchet, it has the same mechanical internals as your hand ratchet, ie, you can use it as a normal ratchet. No need to switch, unless you want to do it completely probably and switch to a inch lb. Torque wrench and.secure your.fastners as the factory does. Take care, peace and love! Peace and love!
Thanks for all the videos. I have a 2020 135 with 4600 kays on it.was cutting out while riding be4 i did a service.have now done a new oil change.riding home tonight it cut out about 6 times while riding.would you suggest doing valve clearance and spark plugs? Or could this be electrical
There's a few things to check. It very easy to pinch one of the breather hoses reinstalling the gas tank. Remove and carefully reinstall. Check your fuel filter to see if it's congested. It might be starving it of fuel. Lastly, check the valves. Were they checked and adjusted at 600 to 1000 miles? If they're off, this too will cause issues. I hope my thoughts help.
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures hey Eric I need help bad I been trying to adjust my valves 3 times now I'm still having this chattering noise when Im hitting the end of third gear and up I set all 4 valves at 0.06 is that right?
First off, thank you for all your videos they are so helpful! Watching your video as a guide I just finished adjusting my valve clearances. 3 of 4 were way too tight. After I finished and buttoned it up now it’s got a loud lifter tic it didn’t have before. Is this normal?
Thank you for the kind reply. The very design of these valves are super noisy, mostly becuase of the tin cup that houses them resonates the noise. I put in 10w 50 (thicker oil) and it quieted them down a little. Were they that noisy before the adjustment?
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures Thats the thing, there was absolutely no noise before I adjusted them. I guess the only time they are quiet is when they are too tight.
@@AG-qf1ww Ride it for a 100 miles or so and reassess. Mentally note the noise level if you can. My valves are/were noisy from day one. I hope my thoughts help you sir. Eric
Thank you. The usual symptoms are very noisy valves, poor performance, poor gas mileage, and possible excessive oil consumption. I hope my thoughts help.
Nice video. It shows you put a lot of effort into it. Around 17:00, it says intake valves are on front and exhaust valves rear. Is that right? Seems the exhaust is on the front, which I think is pretty typical? But I don't have a benelli and could be missing something here!
Hey Kraken...new here but im enjoying your videos. I have a stupid question...you said the tnt135 manuals are in your google dropbox to download, can you tell me how to get to those?
Hi Cheryl, here's the service manual: www.dropbox.com/s/j53yc6dukca60g5/Benelli%20TNT%20135cc%20Official%20Full%20Service%20Manual%20%282021%29%20.pdf?dl=0 And here's the parts manual: www.dropbox.com/s/m6jst0m9213p32j/PARTLIST-BENELLI-TNT135.pdf?dl=0
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures thanks I ended up buying one I went to the high school parking lot to practice feathering the clutch I’m older/ 62/ A kid on an antique farm all was in the lot driving around as well So we drag raced Good stuff!
Excellent video! Thank you so much! Now I believe I can accomplish my first 600 mile service myself. Hey if you have thrm can you post up the torque specs for the valve lock nuts and valve cover bolts? I only have the owner's manual and none of this is listed. Also do you have a link to a service manual for the tnt 135?
Here's the shop manual: www.dropbox.com/s/f1x8ka1giue9xos/TNT%20125%20E4%20Workshop%20Manual%20%281%29.pdf?dl=0 Here's the parts manual: www.dropbox.com/s/m6jst0m9213p32j/PARTLIST-BENELLI-TNT135.pdf?dl=0 - Valve lock nuts - 7 N.m - There were no torque values in the manual for the valve cover. It has a rubber gasket, so tighten till snug evenly, then give another 1/2 turn on each bolt. Don't over tighten. Thanks for watching and good luck.
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures omg thank you so much? Give me an email address for PayPal and I'll send you something as a thank you. I'm at james.melter@gmail.com.
Hi sir! As a Benelli TRK 502 owner I must say this is a very informative channel. Thank you for that. I am thinking buying this beauty ‘monkey’ motorcycle as my second bike, the 502 is a ‘monster’ for a daily use. Just a question please: do you engage the bike in what gear for exhaust and intake valve clearance? Thanks in advance. Regards
Yes and permanently Famagusta your motor. My suggestion is to get them adjusted as soon as possible. Also did you install a pipe on yours? If so many of them hard bolt (no rubber grommet) to the rear frame which cause huge vibration.
Hey does the bike have to be in fifth to check the valves? I feel like an idiot because I'm trying to get it in 5th and can only get first second, then it doesn't feel like it's going beyond, is this because the bikes off?
Michael, no it doesn't. I removed the spark plugs (2) to release the engine compression. In 5th gear i can easily rotate the rear wheel in gear and get the T1 or T2 marks to line up. Good luck!
How high of rpm’s did you go during the break in period? I have been staying under 6k, I have a 2022 135. People in the face book group said they go over that to 8k or 9k. Also I’m at 340 miles so far on the bike.
I kept mine at 6k for thr first 600 miles and did the first service to include the valve adjustment. After that, I have rode it wide open. It's a pretty basic motor, just don't abuse it during the first 600 miles and you're good. Good luck sir. Eric
The motor is very small And folks will install a big bore kit to get a little more. Personally. I don't think it worth it. My advice is sell it and maybe purchase the Benelli 310S. Good luck.
Hello Kraken! I bought a Benelli TNT 135 this week, mainly for my wife to enjoy. I rode it before I bought it, but when I got home it feels different. When I ride at high speeds 30-50 mph, there is a weird 1-2 second vibration, almost wobble in the entire bike. Can't isolate the problem. Bike has 900 miles on it and I am not sure what services have been done on this bike. But what are some things I should be looking for when I am trying to solve the problem? Thank you in advance
Many have had this issue with their bikes. If you bought it new, take it back to the dealer. Just know they're going to try and blow you off. 99% of the time the culprit has been poor quality Cordial tires that are so bad you can hardly balance them with weights. Ask the dealer to replace the tires, due to the shaking the bike in unsafe to ride. Good luck sir and congratulations to your wife. It really is a darn good bike for the money. Let me know if I can help. Eric
Yes, I would check them for piece of mind. Adjusting the valves is something most people neglect to do. If they're off they can do irreparable damage to your engine.
I have a cut out issue on my tnt 125 could bad clearance be the cause I have had a couple of people say so but I can't find anywhere or anyone with the same issue :(
@@benriding8678 Virginia, take a look at this list of good m/c roads I've put together over the years. I haven't really covered Georgia. www.dropbox.com/s/b2sudl6yerwlgux/VA%2CWV%2CNC%2CTN%20BEST%20RIDING%20ROADS.pdf?dl=0
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures will do, I'm about 45 minutes west of the Tail of the Dragon. I was wondering if you were somewhere near by we could hook up for some riding that's why I asked. Again great video's & info.!
Does anyone have a link for a specialty tool for the valves? I don't have any square sockets and not comfortable with using players or a crescent wrench. Also after doing valve adjustments on my vw for the longest time I'd like to try one out haha
xee, I'm not entirely sure on the TnT 150i as it is a totally different bike. On the TnT 135 with the T1 mark the intake valves should just barely be touching enough to get the feeler gauge to slide through. Look at the service manual that has been updated and go to Page 61 I believe. I hope this helps. www.dropbox.com/s/f1x8ka1giue9xos/TNT%20125%20E4%20Workshop%20Manual%20%281%29.pdf?dl=0
😥😢😭😥😢😭😓😓Hi everyone I have had a tnt135 for 3 years now only been able to drive it for 1 of those years my bike Cuts off and backfires at between 7000-8000 rpms and then if I wait 5 seconds she starts back up and runs but only runs at lower rpms I have changed the fuel pump and filter and injector and spark plug. but it still does it.Could it be the valves?Any suggestions would be appreciated THANKS FOR ANY HELP
It has never happened to me. Did you do your first service at 600 miles? It is covered under a factory warranty so I would take it to your dealer you purchased it from. Eric
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures I bought it from someone and it has been sitting for 2 years at 700 miles. I replaced the spark plugs, battery, oil, gas pump and still the same thing
Yes, I did. No, it's not necessary but usually Chinese companies put in generic parts with name brand logos on it. I'm nor saying Venelli did this, just my experience. Eric
How hard is it really to do the valves because I have a bike shop and wants to charge me almost $400 to do them just because they've never done them and they're going to use my venality of the guinea pig
To me it's very easy. I can't say how you would fair. If you're not confident then sadly you'll have to take it to the dealer. I will say $400 is outrageous for the labor.
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures yeah well it's 140 an hour plus tax and they said it would take 2 hours I'm the second owner of it I bought it with 1500 miles I didn't know I'll change and filter changed as soon as I got it just a I knew but I called the guy and he said they never did the valves so what do I just need is a feeler gauge and a torque wrench
Would it make it backfire because when I first bought it it was super crisp no backfiring and now every once in awhile it'll backfire would that vows have to do with that I would think yes right sorry about the long questions
T1 could not be achieved , it bounces away like it had compression ! It was all adjusted @ T2 .008 on both in/ex ! As found , it had zero clearances on all valves ! 😮
I love all the clowns that try to tell me their tnt is as good as or better than my grom. I can have my valves adjusted and be riding before they even get to their valve cover lol. I still like the tnt for what it is, but it’s nowhere near a grom.
Well, good for you. The TnT 135 is subpar to the Hrom. The difference is in the price, which is a strong argument. Take it easy on busting out the clown remark. I'm happy you've found a great bike for you. Ride safe.
I own not one but two Hondas. Getting information on clearances, valves or any other, was never a problem. Neither was getting information on how to do it. Service manuals are easily available, as are parts catalogues. Just don't expect any help from the dealers if you want to do anything thats not Honda supplied. Such as changing fork springs. If you change anything in the engine or electronics, they don't know what to do with your Honda.
And there's the argument to own a Honda. I guess the buyer has to decide if the extra money is worth the headache. You make a valid point. Thanks for commenting. Eric
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures Headache! I never said anything about headaches with Honda. And yes, it is well worth the extra money. A Honda will outlast a benelli even if not looked after.
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures got it. I considered the tnt, but after hearing the horror stories, decided it was better to fork out the extra for the Honda. I regret it so much, that I bought a second one and considering buying the new model as well. If that's not proof enough how happy i am with Honda, don't know what could be.
When I shot this video there no mention in the shop manual so I was winging it. The updated manual has the proper measurements now. Thank heavens! Go by what the service manual says. Thanks for watching. Eric
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures Link to manual, says tnt125, page 53 has valve settings, different,and page 63 has settings you recommended. Very confusing. But I'm going with the .08.
@@russellp4160 Russell, I totally get what your saying with the misinformation printed. What I shared with you is what I used and I'm having no issues.
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures I go out to do it on my 2022 tnt135. And low and behold, there is a sticker on the left frame rail that states .08mm - .10mm for valve setting.
@@russellp4160 I was going to mention that but half the bikes out there don't have that sticker. Didn't want to send you on a wild goose chase. Glad you got it sorted.
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The Exhaust valves are at the front & inlet at the rear, not that it makes any difference if you've set them all to the same clearance but most people set the exhaust 0.02mm larger than what the inlet clearance is set to
pgtips, many thanks for the correction. This was one of those projects you work on and poke at it the worse it gets. I'll pin your comment and hopefully others will read it. Mea culpa...
Whats the reason behind setting the exhaust valves with a larger gap?
@@urmomsahoe1 because that side of the engine runs hotter with the hot gases leaving the cylinder through the valves but on the opposite side of the head the intake is treated to nice cool fresh air with a shower of cooling petrol for the intake valves to bask in. Less metal expansion so the clearance can be a little closer without any valve bounce occuring.
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures What happens if you remove the quick cap, I would think that without it it would be easier to adjust the valves
I have been a Porsche factory trained mechanic for 68 years. I d like to complement you on your training skills. You make it clear and leave no questions needed.
Well, thank you very much. By no means am I a trained tech. I've just fumbled my way with wrenching on bikes for 45 years. You comment is very much appreciated! Eric
thank you very much for this vid kraken - the 135 i bought in june wouldnt hold idle cold. ran through the gamut of problems and finally gutted up thanks to your video here and did the valve adjustment. there was NO clearance on the front valves at all. got that all fixed and its like a whole new bike now. you rock!!!
Now that's what I like to hear! Enjoy that new bike, and I'm glad I was able to help you. Eric
Second time using this tutorial to do my own bike so thanks for that. Point to note, the spark plugs can be taken out using the same socket on each side, with the exception that the right hand side has a sleeve held in with a circlip. It is the circlip that obstructs the socket going in. You can carefull use proper circlip pliers to remove the circlip and get the spark plug out. Just be sure to get the circlip back in and seated properly on reassembly.
Thanknyou for the tip. I'm glad to hear this tutorial helped you put a bit. Thanks for leaving a comment.
I just purchased a tnt 135 and had trouble finding the value clearance specs. I was a motorcycle tech for 20 years and your video is well done for anyone to use whether it be a beginner or some who has turned wrenches for years. Thanks for value specs ! Great video!
Thank you so much! Those are very kind words and are much appreciated. Congratulations on you new TnT and thanks for stopping by and commenting. Eric
Great video, i moved to Colombia, and picked up one of these. I like to work on my own bikes so this was an absolute lifesaver .
Glad it helped! Thank you for leaving a comment on my work. :)
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures anytime, keep up the great content
Just saved myself $200 and learned more about my bike. Thank you for the confidence to do this myself.
I'm glad it helped you sir. Thanks for commenting. Eric
Thanks a bunch for all the Benelli TNT 135 videos! I just traded for a 135, and your how-to videos are excellent 👍 Ride on!
Thank you for taking the tie to let me know my work has helped someone. Very much appreciated.
Hey Kraken!! I am a HGV driver, plasterer and section commander, from the Army in my younger days they are my strong points.Now performing surgery on a bike i like quibbling Jelly.You my friend have enlightened us with thoroughness and diligence in your videos.Hell i think i could give this a go if i need too.I know doing the videos take a long time brother but they really are appreciated by all thank you.
Ricky, you are most welcome and it's comments like this that make it worth while. If you get jammed up him me up and I'll do my best to help you. Ride swift, ride safe. Eric
Thank you for the great video… Was extremely helpful. I will add a couple of things that I found through my experience, 1: you don’t need to remove the spark plugs. I was able to get everything lined up no problem without doing that. And 2 I set them right in the middle of the range at .09 mm… and had no problem locking the bolt back down if I left the feeler gauge in place while tightening the locknut. Doing that maintains the gap and does not bite down on the gauge too hard….it doesn’t get stuck in there. My $0.02 👍🏽
Excellent suggestions! Why didn't I think of leaving the feeler gauge in while titening down. I appreciate your sound advice. Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks! 😂
Wouldn't have tried without this video... fixed my cold start bog to stall problem... appreciate the video kraken 👏🤜
Glad it helped and I really appreciate hearing that I helped someone out. Eric
Excellent job, Eric! Thank you for listening to your subscribers and for taking that huge amount of time to make it so understandable! Big thumbs up to you!
Thanks so much for the support bother!
Your videos are a great source of information for the tnt,got the 125 for the wife today,good work keep it up👌👌
Thank you L
Kay Six! Congrats to your wife! 🏍💨🐙
I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on getting this bike over the z125 pro. This video is very encouraging as there is little content for this bike so far. Thanks for taking the time to educate the community
Juan, thanks so much for that reply. My TnT content is meant to help a possible purchaser of this bike. You can't go wrong with either Z125 or the TnT. Ride safe, ride swift. Eric 🦑
Thanks for your diligence. My cub ,monkey ,and TNT are all more because of you ! !
I'm glad to know I've helped a few folks. You have a great lineup of bikes! Eric
This is what the internet needed. Hugh quality video. You earned a sub from me!
You have no idea how frustrated I was shooting this video. I just couldn't get a straight answer from anyone. The latest update of the service manual has the info in it now. Let me know if you need it, I have it stored in my dropbox. Eric
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures yes! My tnt has 300 miles on it now and I will be doing that very soon
thankyou for making videos like this. there informative and very well made!
You are most welcome. They're long but thorough to hopefully help a few folks. Eric
Thanks for sharing this with all the details. My bike has 900+ kms now and I need all the info I can get before I work on it. Benelli dealerships in my area are limited.
I hope they help you on your ownership. I have the most recent service manual and parts manual uploaded on dropbox should you need it. Thanks for watching. Eric
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures Can I please have the link for both of those?
I had been looking for parts for my bike that I just acquired just over a month ago from writing this. Thanks for all the info on how to maintain my 2022 tnt135
Thank you for letting me know it helped you. Enjoy that new bike! Eric 🏍💨🦑
checked mine at 740 miles, all where within spec. checked them 4 months later at 2800 miles. Glad I didn't wait till the 5000 mile inspection. Both exhaust valves were tight, couldn't even get the .08 in there. Intakes were both on the loose end of the spectrum.
Good information Russell. I'm glad you caught it before you put many more miles on your bike.
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures Just checked again at 4,565 miles. exhaust TIGHT AGAIN, Couldn't even get an .06 in them! The bike had seemed to be running hotter, and had less power. Intakes were within spec, but one a little on the loose side. So I set it too. Runs like new again. Also when I set it on T1, I also check the timing gear, it has a mark that lines up at the top (12 O'clock) and easier to turn it real slow with a wrench ( clock wise) than using the rear wheel.
@@russellp4160 Good to hear it's running in top form again. It sounds like you've got this down to a science. 🙌 Thanks for the update.
You sir just got another subscriber 🤘🏻great delivery of info
Welcome aboard! Thank you for the sub. Eric
Awesome video, great presentation and vibe! Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it! I hope it helps you with your ownership.
Great video Eric. I have just ordered TNT to add to my collection, over here in bonnie Scotland. Eagerly anticipating delivery!
Thank you Glenn and congratulations! 🏍💨🐙
Great video thank You so much, I´ll be adjusting mine soon with this solid instructions. Greetings from Guatemala.
Right on Carlos! I just posted another TnT video with a link to my Dropbox to download the latest updated service manual which has the correct settings for the valves. I hope it helps you. Eric
terrific video
very instructional
just considering doing that job would give me great anxiety
well done, Eric... as always
Thank you so much for the support Greg.
Thanks a lot for the valuable information. Greetings from Italy
I hope ot helps you on your owner experience. Thabks for watching. Ciao
Excellent video Eric, showing people how to do a little “bit of voodoo” that most are gun shy to try.
I make that “special tool” with a square headed wood screw and a piece of dowel. The square is a 3mm square drive very common at most home centers. My personal one I have wrapped in heat shrink for a bit of added grip on the wood dowel. I then use an open ended wrench to lock the lock nut.
Man... that's really good info Colby and thanks for sharing. Leave it to me to take the hard road. lol
I’ve been down all the hard roads. Now I look for things to make those roads easier
Can you post a picture of how your special tool looks please?
Sure. Let me make a new one. I passed my last one onto someone else.
Square sockets are available and in most comprehensive sets. To hold the screw while you use a wrench to snug the nut. Also you can skip the timing mark check since you can see the cam position on this one. Just put the cam lobe opposite the rocker and you will be good to adjust. Always check what the existing clearance is before you start. IT might be fine, OR it might have closed up. Which is bad.
Really good advise. I'm not a pro at this but did my best to get some help to many owners that have this bike. Thanks for watching and stopping by. Eric
Thanks for this video. Ease of access for doing things like valve adjustments is always important. This bike doesn't seem to be too bad, especially compared to my suzuki vstrom.
Some bikes seem to have no thought put into the servicing of it. The TnT is a great platform for someone to learn how to wrench on. Thanks for watching Brian.
🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 Superb!!! 👏 Great video, well presented and has given me the urge to do it myself👍. Thank you ever so much 🙏🙏🙏
You are mist welcome Paul and I hope it helps you out.
Page 21 bottom left corner just brought 3 days ago hope that helps in&ex 0.08 ~0.10mm cold engine
Thank you Joseph for sharing. The TNT community is all helping each other out.
Superb job. Your dealer couldn't have done any better.
This video was redone 6 times because of bad info. I know it's super boring to watch but I feel it will help a few folks out. Thanks for the support!
You can tighten fasteners with your cordless ratchet, it has the same mechanical internals as your hand ratchet, ie, you can use it as a normal ratchet. No need to switch, unless you want to do it completely probably and switch to a inch lb. Torque wrench and.secure your.fastners as the factory does. Take care, peace and love! Peace and love!
Good stuff Charles and you're correct. Tha ks for watching and commenting.
Thanks for all the videos.
I have a 2020 135 with 4600 kays on it.was cutting out while riding be4 i did a service.have now done a new oil change.riding home tonight it cut out about 6 times while riding.would you suggest doing valve clearance and spark plugs?
Or could this be electrical
There's a few things to check. It very easy to pinch one of the breather hoses reinstalling the gas tank. Remove and carefully reinstall. Check your fuel filter to see if it's congested. It might be starving it of fuel. Lastly, check the valves. Were they checked and adjusted at 600 to 1000 miles? If they're off, this too will cause issues. I hope my thoughts help.
Thanks for this one man, I'll be adjusting mine soon. 👍✌🐙
Hit me up if you need any help or advise.
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures Will do sir, I appreciate it👍🐙
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures hey Eric I need help bad I been trying to adjust my valves 3 times now I'm still having this chattering noise when Im hitting the end of third gear and up I set all 4 valves at 0.06 is that right?
Good video. Great job Eric.
Very kind of you to say. Technical video tend to be very long and boring.
Hello,
Do you know where can i find the repair manual for a BN125 2020?
Looking everywhere and nothing.
Tanks in advance, loved the video!
Here's a link to my dropbox for the service manual for the TnT 125/135. I hope it helps you. Eric
First off, thank you for all your videos they are so helpful! Watching your video as a guide I just finished adjusting my valve clearances. 3 of 4 were way too tight. After I finished and buttoned it up now it’s got a loud lifter tic it didn’t have before. Is this normal?
Thank you for the kind reply. The very design of these valves are super noisy, mostly becuase of the tin cup that houses them resonates the noise. I put in 10w 50 (thicker oil) and it quieted them down a little. Were they that noisy before the adjustment?
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures Thats the thing, there was absolutely no noise before I adjusted them. I guess the only time they are quiet is when they are too tight.
@@AG-qf1ww Ride it for a 100 miles or so and reassess. Mentally note the noise level if you can. My valves are/were noisy from day one. I hope my thoughts help you sir. Eric
Great video !
What are some symptoms of improperly adjusted valves ?
Thank you. The usual symptoms are very noisy valves, poor performance, poor gas mileage, and possible excessive oil consumption. I hope my thoughts help.
Nice video. It shows you put a lot of effort into it.
Around 17:00, it says intake valves are on front and exhaust valves rear. Is that right? Seems the exhaust is on the front, which I think is pretty typical? But I don't have a benelli and could be missing something here!
Roberto, you are correct and I just knew I would make an error and was apprehensive to post it. I'll write a note in the description. Mea culpa....
Thanks a lot for the manual!
I have an updated manual ill share on thr next TnT video. Thabks for watching. Eric
A+ thank you ! Do you have a part # for the special valve tool ?
Apologies, I'm trying to catch up on all my replies. Here's a link to what your need. I hope it helps. amzn.to/42Hyyu8
Hey Kraken...new here but im enjoying your videos. I have a stupid question...you said the tnt135 manuals are in your google dropbox to download, can you tell me how to get to those?
Hi Cheryl, here's the service manual: www.dropbox.com/s/j53yc6dukca60g5/Benelli%20TNT%20135cc%20Official%20Full%20Service%20Manual%20%282021%29%20.pdf?dl=0
And here's the parts manual: www.dropbox.com/s/m6jst0m9213p32j/PARTLIST-BENELLI-TNT135.pdf?dl=0
i wonder if the T2 marks were used with the 150 motors. heard they were the same lower ends.
I can't really comment on that. This is stated for the 135 service manual.
Great video and info video set
Thank you
I like this machine
Thank you for dropping a comment. I hope my thoughts helped you on your 2 wheel journey.
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures thanks
I ended up buying one
I went to the high school parking lot to practice feathering the clutch
I’m older/ 62/
A kid on an antique farm all was in the lot driving around as well
So we drag raced
Good stuff!
@@SS-rz1oc I turned 50 last week. 😉 Congratulations!
Great video, thank you.
I hope it helps you and thanks for watching my content and commenting!
do a video of removing the rest of the top end to the piston removal
I don't have any real plans to tear the motor down but if I do. you can be sure I'll shoot a video.
Excuse me, will there still be a clicking sound after your valve clearance is adjusted?
Yes, the tin cup covering the valves resonates like a bell and amplifies the ticking. By design. This motor is quite loud with ticking.
Excellent video! Thank you so much! Now I believe I can accomplish my first 600 mile service myself.
Hey if you have thrm can you post up the torque specs for the valve lock nuts and valve cover bolts? I only have the owner's manual and none of this is listed.
Also do you have a link to a service manual for the tnt 135?
Here's the shop manual: www.dropbox.com/s/f1x8ka1giue9xos/TNT%20125%20E4%20Workshop%20Manual%20%281%29.pdf?dl=0
Here's the parts manual:
www.dropbox.com/s/m6jst0m9213p32j/PARTLIST-BENELLI-TNT135.pdf?dl=0
- Valve lock nuts - 7 N.m
- There were no torque values in the manual for the valve cover. It has a rubber gasket, so tighten till snug evenly, then give another 1/2 turn on each bolt. Don't over tighten.
Thanks for watching and good luck.
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures omg thank you so much? Give me an email address for PayPal and I'll send you something as a thank you. I'm at james.melter@gmail.com.
I noticed that the link to the shop manual is for the TNT 125. Do you have the shop manual for the 135?
@@robertdenault9354 that is the only manual to service both the 125 and 135.
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures alright awesome! Thanks for all the great content!!
Hi sir!
As a Benelli TRK 502 owner I must say this is a very informative channel. Thank you for that.
I am thinking buying this beauty ‘monkey’ motorcycle as my second bike, the 502 is a ‘monster’ for a daily use.
Just a question please: do you engage the bike in what gear for exhaust and intake valve clearance?
Thanks in advance.
Regards
In this video my suggestion is to set the valves to T1 and the exhaust valves .2 less. I hope this helps you Pedro!
I have the EXACT same bike, I’m having ALOT of vibration. 900 miles. Never had valves check. Could the loose valves cause that much vibration.
Yes and permanently Famagusta your motor. My suggestion is to get them adjusted as soon as possible. Also did you install a pipe on yours? If so many of them hard bolt (no rubber grommet) to the rear frame which cause huge vibration.
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures no I didn’t. I’ll get them checked this weekend
What are the gaps for intake & exaust on the 135
what is valve the clearance on intake .008 (?)& exhaust .010(?) , it wasn't mentioned in the video
.008 - .010 is the range. Anywhere in that range, you're good.
Hey does the bike have to be in fifth to check the valves? I feel like an idiot because I'm trying to get it in 5th and can only get first second, then it doesn't feel like it's going beyond, is this because the bikes off?
Michael, no it doesn't. I removed the spark plugs (2) to release the engine compression. In 5th gear i can easily rotate the rear wheel in gear and get the T1 or T2 marks to line up. Good luck!
How high of rpm’s did you go during the break in period? I have been staying under 6k, I have a 2022 135. People in the face book group said they go over that to 8k or 9k. Also I’m at 340 miles so far on the bike.
I kept mine at 6k for thr first 600 miles and did the first service to include the valve adjustment. After that, I have rode it wide open. It's a pretty basic motor, just don't abuse it during the first 600 miles and you're good. Good luck sir. Eric
Hello Mr kraken
I have a TNT 135 i think the bike is weak what can i do to test the bike
The motor is very small And folks will install a big bore kit to get a little more. Personally. I don't think it worth it. My advice is sell it and maybe purchase the Benelli 310S. Good luck.
Hello Kraken! I bought a Benelli TNT 135 this week, mainly for my wife to enjoy. I rode it before I bought it, but when I got home it feels different.
When I ride at high speeds 30-50 mph, there is a weird 1-2 second vibration, almost wobble in the entire bike. Can't isolate the problem.
Bike has 900 miles on it and I am not sure what services have been done on this bike.
But what are some things I should be looking for when I am trying to solve the problem? Thank you in advance
Many have had this issue with their bikes. If you bought it new, take it back to the dealer. Just know they're going to try and blow you off. 99% of the time the culprit has been poor quality Cordial tires that are so bad you can hardly balance them with weights. Ask the dealer to replace the tires, due to the shaking the bike in unsafe to ride. Good luck sir and congratulations to your wife. It really is a darn good bike for the money. Let me know if I can help. Eric
Did the valve adjustment make difference to the bike sound or feel at all? I got a used TNT 125 with 2k miles, not sure to check or not .
Yes, I would check them for piece of mind. Adjusting the valves is something most people neglect to do. If they're off they can do irreparable damage to your engine.
Is the TNT 135 valve clearance easy to adjust? My hot car is loud
Yes, if you follow my instructions on this video, it's very easy to do. Good luck!
thanks for you video ......
I'm glad it was helpful to you.
Should you do all the valves 0.8
.8 is just fine. First check at 600 miles, again maybe once a year for every 3k miles.
Is it necessary to adjust the valves at first service
Chenier, it sure is. Normally they're check out okay, if they're out they can cause damage to your motor.
I have a cut out issue on my tnt 125 could bad clearance be the cause I have had a couple of people say so but I can't find anywhere or anyone with the same issue :(
Ajust your valve according to this tutorial and see whether you still have the issue.
Another great & informative video. Just subscribed to your channel.
@Virginian thank you sir!
@Virginian out of curiosity what state are you in? I'm in the mountains of N GA, some great roads for riding.
@@benriding8678 Whoops replied with my standard yt account. lol
@@benriding8678 Virginia, take a look at this list of good m/c roads I've put together over the years. I haven't really covered Georgia. www.dropbox.com/s/b2sudl6yerwlgux/VA%2CWV%2CNC%2CTN%20BEST%20RIDING%20ROADS.pdf?dl=0
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures will do, I'm about 45 minutes west of the Tail of the Dragon. I was wondering if you were somewhere near by we could hook up for some riding that's why I asked. Again great video's & info.!
Hey, how much would you charged to do this to my Benelli tnt 135 ?
1 hour labor tops at $100 US per hour. To me, a hundred dollar job.
Does anyone have a link for a specialty tool for the valves? I don't have any square sockets and not comfortable with using players or a crescent wrench. Also after doing valve adjustments on my vw for the longest time I'd like to try one out haha
Jake, this one should do the trick for you, it has the large and the small for $8. Eric amzn.to/3CcgKxU
Respect brother
Thank you sir.
so basically set it to T1. and adjust as per your guidance. Question: when on T1 it does not matter if any of inlet or exhaust is open or closed.
there are T1 and T2 marks in my bike (benelli tnt 150i)
xee, I'm not entirely sure on the TnT 150i as it is a totally different bike. On the TnT 135 with the T1 mark the intake valves should just barely be touching enough to get the feeler gauge to slide through. Look at the service manual that has been updated and go to Page 61 I believe. I hope this helps. www.dropbox.com/s/f1x8ka1giue9xos/TNT%20125%20E4%20Workshop%20Manual%20%281%29.pdf?dl=0
11:51 where can I buy these bolts I broke one
I would check with my local dealer. You should be able to order parts through them. Good luck!
What is the valve clearance on benelli bn 125?
We don't have the TnT 125 here in the US. We have the 135 and the valve clearance. is stated in the video.
Thanks!
You're welcome and thanks for watching. Eric
😥😢😭😥😢😭😓😓Hi everyone I have had a tnt135 for 3 years now only been able to drive it for 1 of those years my bike Cuts off and backfires at between 7000-8000 rpms and then if I wait 5 seconds she starts back up and runs but only runs at lower rpms I have changed the fuel pump and filter and injector and spark plug. but it still does it.Could it be the valves?Any suggestions would be appreciated
THANKS FOR ANY HELP
My best guess is, you have a pinched beather line. Pull the gas rank off, and while do so, listen for a hissing sound.
thanks as soon as i have time i will check
thanks i'll check that as soon as i can@@KrakensGarageandAdventures
Excuse me, but where are the links!!!
K K, which links are you looking for? I'll post them up in the reply.
Cool flaming hot shirt! 👍👍
Ha! Flaming Cheetos!
Mine has 800 miles and keep dying on idle even with a full tank of gas. Has this ever happened to you?
It has never happened to me. Did you do your first service at 600 miles? It is covered under a factory warranty so I would take it to your dealer you purchased it from. Eric
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures I bought it from someone and it has been sitting for 2 years at 700 miles. I replaced the spark plugs, battery, oil, gas pump and still the same thing
at 21:01 did you say you put in new spark plugs at the 600 mile mark? Is this necessary?
Yes, I did. No, it's not necessary but usually Chinese companies put in generic parts with name brand logos on it. I'm nor saying Venelli did this, just my experience. Eric
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures Thanks. Which spark plugs brand and model did you use?
Can’t thank you enough.
You are most welcome!
I can't hear anything at all your dealer said 😆
Sorry about that. :/
My Yamaha scoot valves are still in spec after 20,000 miles
That's incredible! Is it an Smax, Xmax or Majesty? All of them are great scoots! Thanks for watching. Eric
How hard is it really to do the valves because I have a bike shop and wants to charge me almost $400 to do them just because they've never done them and they're going to use my venality of the guinea pig
To me it's very easy. I can't say how you would fair. If you're not confident then sadly you'll have to take it to the dealer. I will say $400 is outrageous for the labor.
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures yeah well it's 140 an hour plus tax and they said it would take 2 hours I'm the second owner of it I bought it with 1500 miles I didn't know I'll change and filter changed as soon as I got it just a I knew but I called the guy and he said they never did the valves so what do I just need is a feeler gauge and a torque wrench
Would it make it backfire because when I first bought it it was super crisp no backfiring and now every once in awhile it'll backfire would that vows have to do with that I would think yes right sorry about the long questions
T1 could not be achieved , it bounces away like it had compression ! It was all adjusted @ T2 .008 on both in/ex ! As found , it had zero clearances on all valves ! 😮
BTW, the clip nuts for the sheet metal screws are only good for 1 unscrew ‘ only ‘ ! 😅
Thanks for sharing you findings. I hope this video (although dated now) was helpful on performing this task. Eric
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures do you have a clutch replace video for the TNT 135?
@johngouker3887 I'm sorry, I do not.
I love all the clowns that try to tell me their tnt is as good as or better than my grom. I can have my valves adjusted and be riding before they even get to their valve cover lol. I still like the tnt for what it is, but it’s nowhere near a grom.
Well, good for you. The TnT 135 is subpar to the Hrom. The difference is in the price, which is a strong argument. Take it easy on busting out the clown remark. I'm happy you've found a great bike for you. Ride safe.
Your toolbox look's like it was made for your benelli.
Indeed it does! lol
I own not one but two Hondas.
Getting information on clearances, valves or any other, was never a problem. Neither was getting information on how to do it. Service manuals are easily available, as are parts catalogues.
Just don't expect any help from the dealers if you want to do anything thats not Honda supplied. Such as changing fork springs. If you change anything in the engine or electronics, they don't know what to do with your Honda.
And there's the argument to own a Honda. I guess the buyer has to decide if the extra money is worth the headache. You make a valid point. Thanks for commenting. Eric
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures Headache! I never said anything about headaches with Honda.
And yes, it is well worth the extra money. A Honda will outlast a benelli even if not looked after.
@Clavius Magnus I was referring to dodgy specs on thr Benelli being the headache.
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures got it. I considered the tnt, but after hearing the horror stories, decided it was better to fork out the extra for the Honda. I regret it so much, that I bought a second one and considering buying the new model as well. If that's not proof enough how happy i am with Honda, don't know what could be.
The shop manual says 0.05-0.07mm and you stated 0.08-.10mm? Am I missing something?
When I shot this video there no mention in the shop manual so I was winging it. The updated manual has the proper measurements now. Thank heavens! Go by what the service manual says. Thanks for watching. Eric
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures Link to manual, says tnt125, page 53 has valve settings, different,and page 63 has settings you recommended. Very confusing. But I'm going with the .08.
@@russellp4160 Russell, I totally get what your saying with the misinformation printed. What I shared with you is what I used and I'm having no issues.
@@KrakensGarageandAdventures I go out to do it on my 2022 tnt135. And low and behold, there is a sticker on the left frame rail that states .08mm - .10mm for valve setting.
@@russellp4160 I was going to mention that but half the bikes out there don't have that sticker. Didn't want to send you on a wild goose chase. Glad you got it sorted.