New Vs Vintage Coles / STC 4038 Ribbon Microphone
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2023
- This week's video compares a pair of vintage 1960's STC 4038's with a pair of brand new Coles 4038 Ribbon Microphones. I post videos just like this one every Friday night, so subscribe to stay up to date on what's next!
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Yes, there are small differences (as pointed out by others) but I think from the perspective of feel you get the same thing from both pairs. And it's a great feel!
Also your drum sound in the room seems to be great already!
Essentially indistinguishable, that bodes well for me when I buy a new pair :)
They are one of the highest quality ribbons still made today! Love them.
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The lower midrange on the STC's sounds really nice.
They both sound great. The new ones have way more low end and a bit more top to my ear.
The SCT's were darker, but almost in a low pass filter effect obvious way, not musical. The new ones sounded great.
Sounds like the mic are closer on the vintage example. I think for a more fair comparison both mics need to be set up simultaneously with 1 performance and level matched.
oh boy, that's a close one!
Great comparison! I would assume the age of the ribbon would affect the sound; maybe it has accumulated dust on it over time. Maybe the weight of the ribbon itself stretched it out a little over time resulting in a different sound. I could be wrong, but maybe this is causing the differences rather than the manufacturer.
Great point! Both of the STC 4038’s were re-ribboned before this video using the exact same 0.6 micron foil that Coles uses today, cut to the same width and specs.
Wow, surprised. The vintage was definitely more 3D. Smoother timbre too, Tony less highs as well. Not enough to call "darker"
The vintage have less high end. I like both depending on the application.
There's slightly more articulation in the dynamics of the Coles vs STC's. The STC's sound a bit softer with less articulation on the transients. My guess is that the Coles will sound the same as the STC's after 50 years of use too. Or put another way, if they were both the same age, they'd sound even closer to being the same.
Dubious speculation: sounds like the STC's might take compression differently (probably better IMO) - characteristic of the transients/ general 'envelope' is different. Nevertheless super similar which is nice. Cool test!
would love to hear a Coles / RCA 77 comparison
Who's that drummer? He's great.
Hunter West!
Too close to tell. I have a modern one. I’m very protective of. I’d hate to stretch the ribbon with a sneeze.
Geeeez that's close! Both sound excellent. I think maybe I'm partial to the old but could just be a bit of bias...
I tried going back and forth between the opening cymbal hits. obvi different hits so who knows but i feel like a got a little more body (maybe just darkness) from the vintage. who knows but fun to try and hear!
Did they turn out to be relatively volume-matched? The old pair sounded like they had a little more dynamic headroom, and I’m wondering if that’s due to slightly different preamp settings?
They are pretty close volume wise, as both pairs are the 300 ohm version! The gain was set to the exact same levels for each pair.
When did you buy the new ones? Theres not 2 versions of the modern ones is there? Only asking, because you mentioned them both being the 300 Ohm versions. Also the pic near the end of the video of the mic's, is that the old one, and the newer one? Mine has a different sticker, doesn't say STC like that.
the old ones feel a bit more saturated to me but both sound good. Think I prefer the old ones. Are there some close mics mixed in there?
Nope these samples are all 4038’s!
Is this just the overheads or are there other mics in this mix
Just overheads!
Dynamics are so diferent!! 😮 The accents are clear on the vintage pair! The new one is boring
Barely a difference...a tiny bit more treble smack or presence on the newer ones. I prefer them to the vintage honestly. Kick sounds a lil better (less boxy) on vintage, toms sound better on new version to my ears.