Tobirama wasn't slow to help naruto. He literally used a long range water jutsu to cut the tree because he didn't want to make contact with the tree. Did you guys forget tobirama grabbed the truth seeker orbs with his own speed, then afterwards use FTG to teleport it away.
Real quick note to back up one of your arguments: 15:38 The sword of Kusanagi was damaging Enma in the adamantine staff form, but couldn’t pierce level 2 cloak 4 tails Naruto. However, Kakashi’s lightning cable sliced right through multiple level 2 cloak tails with ease. With Shinden arguably being stronger than raikiri, it could be safe to assume than it pierced Enma in his staff form
The Tobirama disrespect is crazy. The dude is a senju which actually lets him spam way bigger jutsu than anybody for quite a long time. Mind u, the warring states era had people fighting for days together and we barely saw Kakashi fighting continuously for like 3 days at max. Tobirama also has that bringer of darkness genjutsu - something which Hiruzen couldn't break out of in part 1. How dyu think Kakashi is gonna break it? And lmao Tobirama actually strikes faster than Minato with the FTG. That's literally how he kills Izuna with the FTG slice. As for the kinkaku force killing Tobirama and Shikamaru and those guys beating 1 of them. 1st off Darui gets ginkaku sealed purely through trickery and that was entirely possible only because they underestimated Darui so badly. They wouldn't do such blunders against Tobirama. Plus when theyre brought back, ginkaku actually asks if it is Tobirama that is the caster meaning neither of them are even aware of Tobirama's death which points to the fact that they died before tobirama. Tobirama is only said to have perished in that fight. It's never clearly mentioned that the kinkaku force killed him. He couldve very well died off due to chakra exhaustion or injuries. Remember Tobirama just came off after fighting an entire war and then proceeded to face the strongest unit of the hidden cloud having over 20 S class shinobi and 2 pseudo jinchuriki. That's almost the same level as facing the entire akatsuki together. A fatigued Tobirama dying off Chakra exhaustion or injuries after that shouldn't necessarily be considered an anti feat for him in any way.
@@kobudda9318 how so? I just stated all the facts. Just because we don't see much of tobirama, doesn't mean he's weak by any means. Especially since he kills MS izuna and MS izuna and MS madara were said to be relative in terms of strength. So it's not really wrong if I said that, madara only surpassed tobirama in power after he obtains the EMS.
I can say for Kakashi’s speed, when Zetsu took hold of obito’s body, Kakashi and Minato got to him at the same time and depending on how much u think Obito’s powers amped Kakashi during the Kaguya fight he was just blatantly the fastest one on the field but it entirely depends on if you think he’s already relative to that speed, or he’s just boosted by some unquantifiable degree.
I think a good approach when trying to determine Naruto Canon is to ask "does the material conflict with the main manga"? If not, then it is on the table for being canon. A lot of ninjas do things in other media that the manga just doesn't have time or attention span to cover but most times fit with the overall ninjas combat profile or expands the Naruto world which is welcome.
@@GS-gd1nm that’s why we said in the beginning of the video that it’s up to opinion if you wanna take the novels as canon. I always do, some don’t and that’s fine 🤷🏻♂️ no harm done
@@TheLightningBlade i dont think its upto opinion, there really isnt proof of novels being canon. If we use 'supervised and approved by kishimoto' as an argument then naruto movies and games should be canon too
@@GS-gd1nm again it is up to opinion. Not everyone is going to agree. I think the novels are canon and you don’t. And that’s fine :) in any case thank you for watching the video!
25:49 Ah yes the SENJU x UZUMAKI love child with additional chakra reserves stored up for YEARS is getting outlasted in a chakra battle vs Kakashi, makes sense 😀👍
Im gonna say this when it comes to the ginkakku and kinkakku force, their edo varients are a bit easier to beat because you just have to seal them, its easier to seal someone than to kill them. So i don't think ino shika cho sealing one of the kinkaku force means they could beat them when alive.
@@TheLightningBlade They also got sealed in the most bs plot armor way possible. Darui was as good as sealed, by a stroke a godly luck he managed to say the seconds most used word that just so happened to be even with the previous word. This got him spit out of the gourd that happens to somehow spit him out in their blind spot when they stopped paying attention to him because he was being sealed. He pushes him into their own sage of six path tool and he instantly gets himself sealed. Then the other 1 gets sealed by another sage of six paths tool before he gets the chance to really do anything. The fourth raikage stated that nobody would have been able to deal with them there after they cloaked, this is why he sent the sage of six paths tool to begin with. Then conveniently those sage of six path tool sealing weapons from what i recall are just never used again. pretty sure those would have been nice to have against edos that require to be sealed.
I think something that fan battle theorist get wrong is stated feats vs practical feats. I bring this up because especially in Ninja combat, a particular ninja might know 100 or more jutsu but do they use those jutsu in combat or only in specialty situations. It is kind of like a Major League Pitcher, they might be able to throw 5 different pitches but only trust 2 pitches in make-or-break situations and only use the off pitches when either their main arsenal is insufficient, or they know that the batter they are facing is really weak to the off pitch. I think Hiruzen, Tobirama and even Kakashi are like that, they all know over 300 jutsu each but they only use like 10 in most situations unless they need something special. Still important to note the feats of knowledge and power because that versatility can often be what pushes the fighter over the edge in a fight, but it is also important to follow the fighting styles of the combatants themselves. Kakashi is able to use a Rasengan for example but as far as I know has never used it in a serious fight.
So when you read the manga the wording in Japanese is misleading as it didn't get translated correctly, what it said is the transportation jutsu meaning in Japanese it refers to the body flicker not flying raijin as its not called transportation jutsu for FTG, its called something else. Look it up. So tobirama is Chakra depleted so fighting with 20 ninja and possibly kinkaku and ginkaku because we are never told of they were apart of the force. For all we know they were a group of ninja sent to kill them die to being rouge Shinobi. We just don't know. Tobirama is called trash for losing a fight he had no chance of winning as he was out of chakra against at least high jonīn and say possibly low kage level. We dont know untill this fight is shown in a manga. So i dont use this anti feat because of the lack of information of the situation.
Im gonna say this when it comes to the ginkakku and kinkakku force, their edo varients are a bit easier to beat because you just have to seal them, its easier to seal someone than to kill them. So i don't think ino shika cho sealing one of the kinkaku force means they could beat them when alive.
the one thing i have to disagree with is purple lighting being able to cut through enma as a staff. as a staff he is the strongest material known in the naruto world. the grass sword orochimaru had has special properties that might let him cut enma
Another banger! We definitely needed to see more of Hokage Kakashi and him just whooping ass! Please do a Anbu Itachi (MS) vs. Hebi Sasuke (Orochimaru Absorbed)
Kakashi created a mudwall bigger than the leaf and the Nagare Village and he was able to turn it into Quartz and hold it up for over a full day, he could use it to counter Several Thousand Hands. It's blasphemy to think he wasn't faster than Raikage when KCM 1 Naruto had already passeed him in speed, Sharingan Kakashi was keeping up with and able to react to a much faster Naruto during the Tailed Beast Fight and that was before Naruto gave him a cloak he also hadn't been healed yet. IMO he loses to Naruto 9/10 and Hashirama 6/10 him and Minato are 50/50 I think they are closer in speed than people realize it could go either way. He beats Tobirama 7/3 has a hard counter and is superior in taijutsu when the fight is most likely gonna end in it. Everyone else he beats pretty fairly imo. People have to remember Kabuto's reanimation Jutsu buffed Madara Hashirama Minato Tobirama and Hiruzen etc they all had infinite chakra reserves and regeneration it's a hassle managing and scaling that a lot of the stuff is wanked from those characters especially Madara think about it in Edo Tensei he played with the 5 Kage then acquired Sage Mode Wood Release Rinnegan EMS and became 10 tails jinchuriki just to be able to be killed by 8 Gates Guy if he wasnt practically immortal. Kakashi received much less from Obito and became the strongest shinobi ever for a few minutes he received one more eye than he normally had juubi chakra and six paths chakra does that mean he just has more potential than even Madara?
@dygoknight and @lightningsnow you guys seem to forget that Shiden is used in the Manga so why wouldn't any of his other feats aren't solidified? 🤨 he probably has sixth paths chakra leftover from the last war because he can clearly mix chakra natures now.
@@TheLightningBlade oh yea that could be it😅like I was saying hokage kakashi is stated to be at juubito level so he should be able to take down any of the hokage except hashirama (This was stated in data books)
@@TheLightningBlade I think I heard some of the youtubers say this so I thought it might be real Like I was confused too bcz if he is at juubito level he will be stronger than edo hashirama and all the edo hokages I think he is kcm naruto or ems sasuke level
I mean I loved the fight but unfortunately it’s barely a minute long so it’s a bit tough to use it. What we CAN say is that Koji considers Kakashi a threat and sees why he was named Hokage.
13:00 So here's something I've always used as like.... a good benchmark Sakumo is stated to be above the Sannins, some translations have him on the tier of taking on all 3, above all 3 at once etc. Same way Hiruzen is state, and kind of like Hanzo, I see Hiruzen as someone like that as well, as he is stated to be their teacher and still a step above the Sannin. We know Kakashi surpasses his father, and I just think Sakumo = Hiruzen and so Kakashi < Hiruzen
hokage Kakashi is way faster then the Raikage. He is even faster then hokage Minato. Hokage Kakashi would beat hokage Minato, Tobirama, Tsunade, Danzo, hokage Hiruzen. Not hiruzen in his prime though. He would lose to Hashirama and Hokage Naruto.
I'm sorry but you didn't give a 8-10 lose to the character that punched a hole in Madara's susano'o ribcage, survived being chopped in half and has the strongest summon in the series... Nah I'm sorry but nah
Great video but I see Tobirama beating kakashi 6/10 times. I think that reanimation puts him over the top. I’m positive he had uchihas in his arsenal and I’m sure his forbidden shadow clone techniques will blitz kakashi
As a lawyer Im really able to analytical this and quote me on this, Tsunade>Kakashi>Hashirama. Because Tsunade can heal herself and Hashirama can't heal Tsunade. Danzo wins no milff.
@@TheLightningBlade in the anime and manga it was implied that lightning is the counter to wood style that's the reason Hiruzen had Kakashi as his right hand Anbu when Orochimaru was plotting to have Yamato assassinate him
Hokage Kakashi is faster then KCM 2 Minato. He stomps Tsunade, Hokage Minato, Old Hiruzen, Tobirama. Loses to Adult Naruto, loses to Hashirama. Wins Danzo as well. Kakashi has only a 30% chance of winning against Adult Naruto. Whole adult Naruto has a 70% chance of Winning against Hokage Kakashi. Shikamaru would lose to hokage Kakashi. Hokage Kakashi has enough chakra to use a mud wall that spanned a entire village and held it for a few days. Thats how much chakra he has and thats not including him using Gates. Which Kakashi can use all of the gates. Kakashi with gates is more faster then KCM2 Minato. Kakashi has 1500 copied jutsu. Some of them are way op that we know about. Kakashi was able to copy a giant white ice whale jutsu that destroyed an entire island. Thats just one of his 1500 copied jutsu. He also fought Zabuza and would be able to have copied the justu Zabuza used the hidden mist jutsu that allows everything to be mist and for it to block ones sense to not know where the enemy is attacking from. Kakashi can also use water vortex which flooded miles upon miles with water more of a flood then edo Tobirama on the roof top. He used the water vortex to flood the entire area more surface area then edo Tobirama did on the rooftop. Those are just a couple of Kakashi's copied jutsu. He also has village level jutsu with his mud wall encompassing the entire village he was able to hold it for a few days. Which is a feet that is above hokage Minato but in between Minato and Hashirama in capacity. An example of it is as if Minato was able to use massive rasengan non stop just using it and using it not turning it off for two days. Thats what Hokage kakashi using that village level encompassing entire village mud wall and holding it for two days and then shutting it off. Thats what it would be like in Minato's case. I tried thinking of a good example for Minato. Even though his Massive rasengan is not village level. A better example of village level for Minato is teleporting Kurama away from the village. But, it did not fit in my opinion with him using that for two days straight. But, that would be the best village level feet. Minato teleporting Kurama's bijuu bomb is a even better village level feet. As full 9 tails bijuu bomb would have more then likely leveled the entire leaf village. As strong as Pains chaotic chin ra tensei or however you spell it. That leveled the entire leaf village. Thats how powerful full 9 tails bijuu bomb was. Yet, Minato teleported it all away. That would be the perfect example of a village level jutsu that Minato accomplished. Imagine Minato doing that for two days straight. Thats what Hokage Kakashi holding up that village level mud wall for two days straight was like. A feet that is in between Minato and Hashirama capacity. Not to say Minato would not be able to do it. Just saying that Minato was not shown doing a jutsu that is village level for two days straight and then pretty much running out of chakra and stopping the jutsu. Like Minato teleporting full 9 tails bijuu bomb for two days straight then stopping after pretty much running out of chakra thats what Hokage Kakashi feet of the mud wall is like. So, kakashi has 1500 copied jutsu that he can use. His speed with his sharingan in the great ninja war was on KCM 1 Minato speed and Was on Six paths Naruto and Six paths Sasuke who was boxing with Kaguya level of speed with kakashi with his Sharingan. Kakashi is fast and that was with the Sharingan depleting his chakra. So, with it depleting his chakra he was KCM 1 Minato in speed. Thats without gates. So, hokage Kakashi full speed is KCM 2 Minato level speed since he has his chakra and not being depleted by sharingan and when it was being depleted by sharingan he was KCM 1 Minato in speed. Without Sharingan depleting it him at full speed would be at KCM 2 Minato in speed. Without talking about gates which kakashi has. If we was talking about gates the higher Kakashi would go in gates the faster he would become putting him at above KCM 2 Minato in speed with gates. Kakashi in gates Might be able to beat Adult Naruto. Especially when Kakashi in gates would have more control of his chakra meaning more chakra consuming jutsu can be used. He has 1500 copied jutsu. Also, remember though. Even without sharigan at five years old he was able to use Chidori. So, kakashi can use Chidori, purple lightning in gates he can spam purple lightning, he can spam white ice whale jutsu which was able to destroy a island. Kakashi has 1500 other copied jutsu that can spam as well. So, kakashi with gates would beat adult Naruto. But, Baryon Naruto would beat any version of adult Kakashi. Also, 8th gates Kakashi would stomp Adult Naruto and possibly even baryon mode Naruto. Adult hokage Kakashi at base in full power is KCM 2 Minato in speed or relatively a little faster then 8th gate guy in speed. As KCM2 Minato was shown teleporting in and out a little faster but still relative to being around 8th gate guy. So, at base hokage Kakashi full power is KCM 2 Minato in speed. So, 8th gate Kakashi would be way way faster then KCM 2 Minato in speed and way above Baryon mode Naruto in speed. He would make Baryon Mode Naruto look slow motion. He would blitz baryon mode Naruto. In 8th gate kakashi but would die after beating Baryon Mode Naruto. As thats what happens when he uses 8th gate.
Either he beats everyone but naruto or he beats everyone but naruto hashirama and minato Naruto is simply the strongest longest lasting no question Minato is the fastest besides naruto as well as the most intelligent in the conversation Hashirama will outlast 100 kakashis chakra wise and he’s just overall better which is fair Tobirama is what I believe to be the weakest even though the 3rd appears to be since we have no lore for him in a prime age other than some random statements. Oh shit I forgot tsunade. She’s the weakest even though she can punch really hard 🤦🏻♂️
i would say that only kage kakashi would lose too are prime hashiram and naruto i mean he is just too overpowered now like urashiki or kinshiki level who were giving fight to adult sasuke so just there is no debate in it and never mind about the logic in his video he is just not taking facts he is just saying that he couldnot dodge or whatever i mean he is faster than kcm minato
The only Hokage Kakashi has the potential to score a win a against is Tsunade and even then it's absolutely a hard fight. If Tsunade just lands one hit on Kakashi the fight is over. Every other Hokage out classes Kakashi.
@@GS-gd1nm he doesn’t need it his reaction time has increased significantly from the war arc so much so that people in the novels question if he even lost the Sharingan
@@TheLightningBlade manga has no feats of kakashi being above his war arc self, what we know is that he lost the sharingan, if gaining sharingan increases stats then logically losing it decreases it. U could say hes more skilled than in the war arc
I’d argue that Naruto would at least need Sage Mode bare minimum. Since all the other Kage were able to do SOMETHING against the Momoshiki (all be it not much)
Kakashi beats Tsunade (Mid-High Diff) and Hiruzen (High-Extremely Diff). He MAY beat Hokage Minato, considering he know his jutsu set well-enough and Minato died real young. But he loses to all the rest. I personally place him at High Kage level. Tobirama, with all his hacks, is Low Super Kage. Hashirama and EMS Madara, for reference, are High Super Kage.
@@TheLightningBlade Ik it’s after the war during his light novel. DMS is what I had on my mind when I saw the thumbnail. But we agree DMS beats hashirama or any other kage excluding Naruto right?
@@aastro2159he has the lower chacra pull out of all of them plus his 1000 jutsus are all raikiry and mud wall, and “his” susano isn’t even his and he doesn’t own it anymore since he got no sharingan so there is no way he can win agains the strongest non relyiant of eye tecniques users
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Stop using Kakashi's face as your avatar, you nurds.
You mean my Daddy? I adore his wood style ❤
Tobirama wasn't slow to help naruto. He literally used a long range water jutsu to cut the tree because he didn't want to make contact with the tree. Did you guys forget tobirama grabbed the truth seeker orbs with his own speed, then afterwards use FTG to teleport it away.
We brought that up in video
He wasn't fast enough too beat kin and gin
@@PrinceAjaxson Not fast enough?
just go read the manga, if tobirama was high on chakra then he could have teleported his team away. 👍
@@kelvinallen9327 he literally got his ass beat twice
Minato grabed the truthseeker orbs and teleported them not Tobirama
Real quick note to back up one of your arguments:
15:38
The sword of Kusanagi was damaging Enma in the adamantine staff form, but couldn’t pierce level 2 cloak 4 tails Naruto. However, Kakashi’s lightning cable sliced right through multiple level 2 cloak tails with ease. With Shinden arguably being stronger than raikiri, it could be safe to assume than it pierced Enma in his staff form
Yeah I was pretty confident Shinden could penetrate Emma!
Enmas staff was able to push back the full 9tails when it attacked the village tho 🤔
@@TDVeldora True! Doesn’t mean it can’t be pierced, though
@@sageofthickcalves that's true but its very durable
@@TDVeldora for sure!
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The Tobirama disrespect is crazy. The dude is a senju which actually lets him spam way bigger jutsu than anybody for quite a long time. Mind u, the warring states era had people fighting for days together and we barely saw Kakashi fighting continuously for like 3 days at max. Tobirama also has that bringer of darkness genjutsu - something which Hiruzen couldn't break out of in part 1. How dyu think Kakashi is gonna break it?
And lmao Tobirama actually strikes faster than Minato with the FTG. That's literally how he kills Izuna with the FTG slice.
As for the kinkaku force killing Tobirama and Shikamaru and those guys beating 1 of them. 1st off Darui gets ginkaku sealed purely through trickery and that was entirely possible only because they underestimated Darui so badly. They wouldn't do such blunders against Tobirama. Plus when theyre brought back, ginkaku actually asks if it is Tobirama that is the caster meaning neither of them are even aware of Tobirama's death which points to the fact that they died before tobirama. Tobirama is only said to have perished in that fight. It's never clearly mentioned that the kinkaku force killed him. He couldve very well died off due to chakra exhaustion or injuries.
Remember Tobirama just came off after fighting an entire war and then proceeded to face the strongest unit of the hidden cloud having over 20 S class shinobi and 2 pseudo jinchuriki. That's almost the same level as facing the entire akatsuki together. A fatigued Tobirama dying off Chakra exhaustion or injuries after that shouldn't necessarily be considered an anti feat for him in any way.
ty bro this is ridiculous😂
@@kobudda9318 how so? I just stated all the facts. Just because we don't see much of tobirama, doesn't mean he's weak by any means. Especially since he kills MS izuna and MS izuna and MS madara were said to be relative in terms of strength. So it's not really wrong if I said that, madara only surpassed tobirama in power after he obtains the EMS.
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I can say for Kakashi’s speed, when Zetsu took hold of obito’s body, Kakashi and Minato got to him at the same time and depending on how much u think Obito’s powers amped Kakashi during the Kaguya fight he was just blatantly the fastest one on the field but it entirely depends on if you think he’s already relative to that speed, or he’s just boosted by some unquantifiable degree.
I’d say it’s a bit of both lol Kakashi seemed to naturally keep tabs on KCM2 Naruto so it’s safe to say he’s pretty impressive in the speed department
These 30 minute videos are awesome bro! I have something to watch on my lunch break lol
I appreciate it bro! I always worry if I make longer videos but I gotta have em every now and then 🤷🏻♂️💪🏻
Tobirama never says that Minato is better at using ftg. He says that Minato is better at "shunshin".
Thanks for the video, the water style is weaker then lightning style
Yep
been waiting for this
Part 1 Kakashi could beat the gold/silver brothers is a craaaaazy statement
he meant ino/shika/cho and darius, separately
i cant even give it to my boy one Time naruto vs kakashi
I think a good approach when trying to determine Naruto Canon is to ask "does the material conflict with the main manga"? If not, then it is on the table for being canon. A lot of ninjas do things in other media that the manga just doesn't have time or attention span to cover but most times fit with the overall ninjas combat profile or expands the Naruto world which is welcome.
Yeah that’s a good point. But I always treat these light novels as canon
Only canon material is manga and the last movie cos kishimoto specefically said it was canon
@@GS-gd1nm that’s why we said in the beginning of the video that it’s up to opinion if you wanna take the novels as canon. I always do, some don’t and that’s fine 🤷🏻♂️ no harm done
@@TheLightningBlade i dont think its upto opinion, there really isnt proof of novels being canon. If we use 'supervised and approved by kishimoto' as an argument then naruto movies and games should be canon too
@@GS-gd1nm again it is up to opinion. Not everyone is going to agree. I think the novels are canon and you don’t. And that’s fine :) in any case thank you for watching the video!
25:49 Ah yes the SENJU x UZUMAKI love child with additional chakra reserves stored up for YEARS is getting outlasted in a chakra battle vs Kakashi, makes sense 😀👍
Im gonna say this when it comes to the ginkakku and kinkakku force, their edo varients are a bit easier to beat because you just have to seal them, its easier to seal someone than to kill them.
So i don't think ino shika cho sealing one of the kinkaku force means they could beat them when alive.
True one way or another they still “beat” them I get what you mean though it’s a fair point
@@TheLightningBlade They also got sealed in the most bs plot armor way possible. Darui was as good as sealed, by a stroke a godly luck he managed to say the seconds most used word that just so happened to be even with the previous word. This got him spit out of the gourd that happens to somehow spit him out in their blind spot when they stopped paying attention to him because he was being sealed. He pushes him into their own sage of six path tool and he instantly gets himself sealed. Then the other 1 gets sealed by another sage of six paths tool before he gets the chance to really do anything. The fourth raikage stated that nobody would have been able to deal with them there after they cloaked, this is why he sent the sage of six paths tool to begin with.
Then conveniently those sage of six path tool sealing weapons from what i recall are just never used again. pretty sure those would have been nice to have against edos that require to be sealed.
I think something that fan battle theorist get wrong is stated feats vs practical feats. I bring this up because especially in Ninja combat, a particular ninja might know 100 or more jutsu but do they use those jutsu in combat or only in specialty situations. It is kind of like a Major League Pitcher, they might be able to throw 5 different pitches but only trust 2 pitches in make-or-break situations and only use the off pitches when either their main arsenal is insufficient, or they know that the batter they are facing is really weak to the off pitch. I think Hiruzen, Tobirama and even Kakashi are like that, they all know over 300 jutsu each but they only use like 10 in most situations unless they need something special.
Still important to note the feats of knowledge and power because that versatility can often be what pushes the fighter over the edge in a fight, but it is also important to follow the fighting styles of the combatants themselves. Kakashi is able to use a Rasengan for example but as far as I know has never used it in a serious fight.
True, sadly full extent of arsenals don’t get used In Naruto. It’s usually the signature jutsu of each character
So when you read the manga the wording in Japanese is misleading as it didn't get translated correctly, what it said is the transportation jutsu meaning in Japanese it refers to the body flicker not flying raijin as its not called transportation jutsu for FTG, its called something else. Look it up. So tobirama is Chakra depleted so fighting with 20 ninja and possibly kinkaku and ginkaku because we are never told of they were apart of the force. For all we know they were a group of ninja sent to kill them die to being rouge Shinobi. We just don't know. Tobirama is called trash for losing a fight he had no chance of winning as he was out of chakra against at least high jonīn and say possibly low kage level. We dont know untill this fight is shown in a manga. So i dont use this anti feat because of the lack of information of the situation.
Valid point. That’s why we tried to not lie ball Tobirama
Im gonna say this when it comes to the ginkakku and kinkakku force, their edo varients are a bit easier to beat because you just have to seal them, its easier to seal someone than to kill them.
So i don't think ino shika cho sealing one of the kinkaku force means they could beat them when alive.
Can you do a kage bodyguard vs from those present at the kage summit in shippuden
Hmm that’s not a bad idea for a video!
the one thing i have to disagree with is purple lighting being able to cut through enma as a staff. as a staff he is the strongest material known in the naruto world. the grass sword orochimaru had has special properties that might let him cut enma
Another banger! We definitely needed to see more of Hokage Kakashi and him just whooping ass! Please do a Anbu Itachi (MS) vs. Hebi Sasuke (Orochimaru Absorbed)
Hokage Kakashi is very slept on! People just don’t understand
Kakashi created a mudwall bigger than the leaf and the Nagare Village and he was able to turn it into Quartz and hold it up for over a full day, he could use it to counter Several Thousand Hands. It's blasphemy to think he wasn't faster than Raikage when KCM 1 Naruto had already passeed him in speed, Sharingan Kakashi was keeping up with and able to react to a much faster Naruto during the Tailed Beast Fight and that was before Naruto gave him a cloak he also hadn't been healed yet. IMO he loses to Naruto 9/10 and Hashirama 6/10 him and Minato are 50/50 I think they are closer in speed than people realize it could go either way. He beats Tobirama 7/3 has a hard counter and is superior in taijutsu when the fight is most likely gonna end in it. Everyone else he beats pretty fairly imo. People have to remember Kabuto's reanimation Jutsu buffed Madara Hashirama Minato Tobirama and Hiruzen etc they all had infinite chakra reserves and regeneration it's a hassle managing and scaling that a lot of the stuff is wanked from those characters especially Madara think about it in Edo Tensei he played with the 5 Kage then acquired Sage Mode Wood Release Rinnegan EMS and became 10 tails jinchuriki just to be able to be killed by 8 Gates Guy if he wasnt practically immortal. Kakashi received much less from Obito and became the strongest shinobi ever for a few minutes he received one more eye than he normally had juubi chakra and six paths chakra does that mean he just has more potential than even Madara?
@dygoknight and @lightningsnow you guys seem to forget that Shiden is used in the Manga so why wouldn't any of his other feats aren't solidified? 🤨 he probably has sixth paths chakra leftover from the last war because he can clearly mix chakra natures now.
…. I’m at minute 25:49… in no universe is kakashi chakra lasting longer than tsunades
all good things come in three's lets go
True!
1 more feat of kakashi in terms of feat is that he defeated a female ice release user who defeated the raikage so he is pretty fast
I mentioned that in the video but I believe my mic might have cut out when saying it 😅
@@TheLightningBlade oh yea that could be it😅like I was saying hokage kakashi is stated to be at juubito level so he should be able to take down any of the hokage except hashirama
(This was stated in data books)
@@pokegamerz2070 juubito level? Which data book?
@@TheLightningBlade I think I heard some of the youtubers say this so I thought it might be real
Like I was confused too bcz if he is at juubito level he will be stronger than edo hashirama and all the edo hokages
I think he is kcm naruto or ems sasuke level
@@pokegamerz2070 hmm now I’m curious I wanna find the data book that has Hokage Kakashi in it
all fun and games until Kakashi takes down one of those aliens in Blue Vortex
What about the Boruto Kakashi that fought Kashin Koji?
I mean I loved the fight but unfortunately it’s barely a minute long so it’s a bit tough to use it. What we CAN say is that Koji considers Kakashi a threat and sees why he was named Hokage.
Hokage Kakashi is beating any hokage besides Naruto
13:00 So here's something I've always used as like.... a good benchmark
Sakumo is stated to be above the Sannins, some translations have him on the tier of taking on all 3, above all 3 at once etc. Same way Hiruzen is state, and kind of like Hanzo, I see Hiruzen as someone like that as well, as he is stated to be their teacher and still a step above the Sannin. We know Kakashi surpasses his father, and I just think Sakumo = Hiruzen and so Kakashi < Hiruzen
hokage Kakashi is way faster then the Raikage. He is even faster then hokage Minato. Hokage Kakashi would beat hokage Minato, Tobirama, Tsunade, Danzo, hokage Hiruzen. Not hiruzen in his prime though. He would lose to Hashirama and Hokage Naruto.
Tobirama is clearly stronger than any version of kakashi except DMS
I'm sorry but you didn't give a 8-10 lose to the character that punched a hole in Madara's susano'o ribcage, survived being chopped in half and has the strongest summon in the series... Nah I'm sorry but nah
Great video but I see Tobirama beating kakashi 6/10 times. I think that reanimation puts him over the top. I’m positive he had uchihas in his arsenal and I’m sure his forbidden shadow clone techniques will blitz kakashi
Definitely a tough fight. I could slightly agree with 6/10
Kakashi loses to tobirama 8/10 times
Facts
Purple Lightning counters his water style and his teleportation
@@Edjuyl Factz
Wrong
@@Edjuyl purple lightening does not counter flying raijin 🤣
Dygoknight has never been right in his life… why feature him?
If you don’t like him why watch the video??
😂😂😂
Hes the only one whos right
@@TheLightningBlade title read nicely. Clicked the video and read the full title 🙃 Dygo makes smoothbrained content istg
@@TheLightningBlade BECAUSE HE LOVES YOU!!
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As a lawyer Im really able to analytical this and quote me on this, Tsunade>Kakashi>Hashirama. Because Tsunade can heal herself and Hashirama can't heal Tsunade. Danzo wins no milff.
2:11 what is wood style weak too
I didn’t say it was weak to but that the Purple Lightning could do something damage
@@TheLightningBlade in the anime and manga it was implied that lightning is the counter to wood style that's the reason Hiruzen had Kakashi as his right hand Anbu when Orochimaru was plotting to have Yamato assassinate him
Hokage Kakashi is faster then KCM 2 Minato. He stomps Tsunade, Hokage Minato, Old Hiruzen, Tobirama. Loses to Adult Naruto, loses to Hashirama. Wins Danzo as well. Kakashi has only a 30% chance of winning against Adult Naruto. Whole adult Naruto has a 70% chance of Winning against Hokage Kakashi. Shikamaru would lose to hokage Kakashi. Hokage Kakashi has enough chakra to use a mud wall that spanned a entire village and held it for a few days. Thats how much chakra he has and thats not including him using Gates. Which Kakashi can use all of the gates. Kakashi with gates is more faster then KCM2 Minato. Kakashi has 1500 copied jutsu. Some of them are way op that we know about. Kakashi was able to copy a giant white ice whale jutsu that destroyed an entire island. Thats just one of his 1500 copied jutsu. He also fought Zabuza and would be able to have copied the justu Zabuza used the hidden mist jutsu that allows everything to be mist and for it to block ones sense to not know where the enemy is attacking from. Kakashi can also use water vortex which flooded miles upon miles with water more of a flood then edo Tobirama on the roof top. He used the water vortex to flood the entire area more surface area then edo Tobirama did on the rooftop. Those are just a couple of Kakashi's copied jutsu. He also has village level jutsu with his mud wall encompassing the entire village he was able to hold it for a few days. Which is a feet that is above hokage Minato but in between Minato and Hashirama in capacity. An example of it is as if Minato was able to use massive rasengan non stop just using it and using it not turning it off for two days. Thats what Hokage kakashi using that village level encompassing entire village mud wall and holding it for two days and then shutting it off. Thats what it would be like in Minato's case. I tried thinking of a good example for Minato. Even though his Massive rasengan is not village level. A better example of village level for Minato is teleporting Kurama away from the village. But, it did not fit in my opinion with him using that for two days straight. But, that would be the best village level feet. Minato teleporting Kurama's bijuu bomb is a even better village level feet. As full 9 tails bijuu bomb would have more then likely leveled the entire leaf village. As strong as Pains chaotic chin ra tensei or however you spell it. That leveled the entire leaf village. Thats how powerful full 9 tails bijuu bomb was. Yet, Minato teleported it all away. That would be the perfect example of a village level jutsu that Minato accomplished. Imagine Minato doing that for two days straight. Thats what Hokage Kakashi holding up that village level mud wall for two days straight was like. A feet that is in between Minato and Hashirama capacity. Not to say Minato would not be able to do it. Just saying that Minato was not shown doing a jutsu that is village level for two days straight and then pretty much running out of chakra and stopping the jutsu. Like Minato teleporting full 9 tails bijuu bomb for two days straight then stopping after pretty much running out of chakra thats what Hokage Kakashi feet of the mud wall is like. So, kakashi has 1500 copied jutsu that he can use. His speed with his sharingan in the great ninja war was on KCM 1 Minato speed and Was on Six paths Naruto and Six paths Sasuke who was boxing with Kaguya level of speed with kakashi with his Sharingan. Kakashi is fast and that was with the Sharingan depleting his chakra. So, with it depleting his chakra he was KCM 1 Minato in speed. Thats without gates. So, hokage Kakashi full speed is KCM 2 Minato level speed since he has his chakra and not being depleted by sharingan and when it was being depleted by sharingan he was KCM 1 Minato in speed. Without Sharingan depleting it him at full speed would be at KCM 2 Minato in speed. Without talking about gates which kakashi has. If we was talking about gates the higher Kakashi would go in gates the faster he would become putting him at above KCM 2 Minato in speed with gates. Kakashi in gates Might be able to beat Adult Naruto. Especially when Kakashi in gates would have more control of his chakra meaning more chakra consuming jutsu can be used. He has 1500 copied jutsu. Also, remember though. Even without sharigan at five years old he was able to use Chidori. So, kakashi can use Chidori, purple lightning in gates he can spam purple lightning, he can spam white ice whale jutsu which was able to destroy a island. Kakashi has 1500 other copied jutsu that can spam as well. So, kakashi with gates would beat adult Naruto. But, Baryon Naruto would beat any version of adult Kakashi. Also, 8th gates Kakashi would stomp Adult Naruto and possibly even baryon mode Naruto. Adult hokage Kakashi at base in full power is KCM 2 Minato in speed or relatively a little faster then 8th gate guy in speed. As KCM2 Minato was shown teleporting in and out a little faster but still relative to being around 8th gate guy. So, at base hokage Kakashi full power is KCM 2 Minato in speed. So, 8th gate Kakashi would be way way faster then KCM 2 Minato in speed and way above Baryon mode Naruto in speed. He would make Baryon Mode Naruto look slow motion. He would blitz baryon mode Naruto. In 8th gate kakashi but would die after beating Baryon Mode Naruto. As thats what happens when he uses 8th gate.
Where did you see mud wall of Kakashi
@@MuhammadMuhaddis-ot2wsI think it was in his novel
Either he beats everyone but naruto or he beats everyone but naruto hashirama and minato
Naruto is simply the strongest longest lasting no question
Minato is the fastest besides naruto as well as the most intelligent in the conversation
Hashirama will outlast 100 kakashis chakra wise and he’s just overall better which is fair
Tobirama is what I believe to be the weakest even though the 3rd appears to be since we have no lore for him in a prime age other than some random statements.
Oh shit I forgot tsunade. She’s the weakest even though she can punch really hard 🤦🏻♂️
Good analysis!
First of all good Video but I think Old Hiruzen loses against Kakashi Yes, but Prime Hiruzen would win against Kakashi.
i would say that only kage kakashi would lose too are prime hashiram and naruto
i mean he is just too overpowered now like urashiki or kinshiki level who were giving fight to adult sasuke
so just there is no debate in it
and never mind about the logic in his video he is just not taking facts he is just saying that he couldnot dodge or whatever
i mean he is faster than kcm minato
The only Hokage Kakashi has the potential to score a win a against is Tsunade and even then it's absolutely a hard fight. If Tsunade just lands one hit on Kakashi the fight is over. Every other Hokage out classes Kakashi.
He only beats tsunade and hiruzen lol I think everyone else is a little too much for him
hokage kakshi will beat minato with high-extreme diff.
Not gonna argue! Definitely a tough fight for either opponent!
Lmao not possible whatsoever
He doesnt even have sharingan to counter his speed
@@GS-gd1nm he doesn’t need it his reaction time has increased significantly from the war arc so much so that people in the novels question if he even lost the Sharingan
@@TheLightningBlade manga has no feats of kakashi being above his war arc self, what we know is that he lost the sharingan, if gaining sharingan increases stats then logically losing it decreases it. U could say hes more skilled than in the war arc
My opinion:
1st Hokage - Hashirama wins
2nd Hokage - Kakashi wins
3rd Hokage - Kakashi wins
4th Hokage - Minato W
5th Hokage - Kakashi W
7th Hokage - We all know who stomps 😂
8th - Kakashi Ez W
True man, Naruto would win in 1 v All hokage battle
Base Adult Naruto slams Kakashi, Bro was fighting fused Momoshiki in base at 50% chakra.
I’d argue that Naruto would at least need Sage Mode bare minimum. Since all the other Kage were able to do SOMETHING against the Momoshiki (all be it not much)
Kakashi cool
Kakashi has never cut a head off
Tsunade stomps him. And man said he has no speed feats?! Stop it
Kakashi beats Tsunade (Mid-High Diff) and Hiruzen (High-Extremely Diff). He MAY beat Hokage Minato, considering he know his jutsu set well-enough and Minato died real young. But he loses to all the rest. I personally place him at High Kage level. Tobirama, with all his hacks, is Low Super Kage. Hashirama and EMS Madara, for reference, are High Super Kage.
We all agree DMS kakashi beats every hokage excluding Naruto right?
Well this isn’t DMS Kakashi though
@@TheLightningBlade Ik it’s after the war during his light novel. DMS is what I had on my mind when I saw the thumbnail. But we agree DMS beats hashirama or any other kage excluding Naruto right?
@@Sh1bai13 oh for sure!
Yes but hokage kakashi loses to hashirama, tobirama, minato and maybe hiruzen
@@GS-gd1nm No he just loses to Lord 1st, 4th and 7th
Shikamaru slams Kakashi too, capable of trapping two Kaguya lvl opponents, Kakashi stands no chance as soon as Shikamaru strangles him.
Hey it’s your opinion bro! I definitely disagree but in any case thank you for watching bro!
Kakashi ain't beating any of them
Reasons?
Beats tsunade high diff
@@aastro2159he has the lower chacra pull out of all of them plus his 1000 jutsus are all raikiry and mud wall, and “his” susano isn’t even his and he doesn’t own it anymore since he got no sharingan so there is no way he can win agains the strongest non relyiant of eye tecniques users