Freedom from the American Gospel: Interview with David Platt
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- Опубликовано: 1 дек 2024
- Join us for an inspiring interview with David Platt, New York Times best-selling author of Radical, on his new book Don't Hold Back! In this groundbreaking work, Platt challenges Christians to break free from an American gospel that prioritizes comfort, power, prosperity, and politics over the true gospel that exalts Jesus above all else.
Discover how Platt urges disillusioned believers to pursue a different future-one rooted in biblical truth and unity rather than worldly division. Gain insights on working for each other, fostering racial reconciliation, trusting God's Word wholeheartedly, and spreading the gospel to all nations.
Plus, David will give a preview of his upcoming event Secret Church.
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I'm waiting to see how many people come here to comment after the 2 part documentary on David Platt....
I’m a business owner who suffered total loss of my business by confiscation of my business by court order. We had reported crimes by the regulators, including over a $100M of state custodied trust funds missing. After a FOIA response showed the state didn’t have authority to even regulate our business, they turns around about 10 days later and sued us based on forged documents for $250M. We were crushed by 9 lawsuits, all based on forgeries and lies, and no one cared that we were shut down for missing trust funds, but didn’t care that the county officials were the trustees for the trust. My SBC pastors committed to silence because we have a few democratic members who might get concerned if we talk about corruption and embezzlement…. And now it turns out the executive board of the SBC might be involved in embezzlement of MBC funds. This is why they don’t want to call it out in the world. I am concerned that the SBC might be apostate already. They excommunicated me for telling my elders that they have made an idol out of peace over truth. They don’t want the truth anymore.
No but I saw his face before the video started and wondered “what is he trying to sell me” and right off the bat it’s a book he wrote…
Will you guys ever address the scandal with Platt? I believe there’s a documentary coming out about it and don’t know how to feel about him anymore.
I struggle with that as well
What scandal?
My thoughts exactly. I used to listen to him after seeing him on elephant room, but he is going off the rails with CRT. And I recently saw a short video where ex members were involved in a documentary. Not looking good
@@FollowingJesus129what happened
What happened
What should we do if we want to be "more radical" in our Christian faith?
SEEK THE LORD MORE EARNESTLY, AND FOLLOW HIM WHEREVER HE LEADS!
Doesn’t he own a large expensive home?
@@thebark_barx6231 It is a HUGE home, but not expensive, and it's available to EVERYONE who simply accepts his invitation!
This was very disappointing in light of his church scandal and Support for BLM.... this seems off
Galatians 6:1
Brethren, if a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted.
Matthew 7:1-5
"Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "Let me remove the speck from your eye"; and look, a plank is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
Nothing more disappointing than a self-hating White.
@@JackFoerster-Hunzicker???
@@JackFoerster-Hunzicker recognizing sin is not judging.
I kept waiting for a non- vague answer from Platt. Why is that? He has the lingo and sounds good but there's something missing.
I just have one question for David Platt: Have the actions you’ve taken and decisions you’ve made in the last few years, as Senior Pastor of McLean Bible Church, been led and directed by the Holy Spirit?
Why are you questioning if he was led by the spirit? Were you led by the spirit to ask that question?
You are asking a question without listing the actions he has taken?
@@katiecugini979 anyone that is familiar with what has transpired at MBC knows exactly what I am referring to. It’s a fair question. Either it’s a work of the Spirit or it’s a work of the flesh. Did I make a judgment on which one it is?
@katiecugini979 How is this not a fair question? I could ask you the same question you asked, were you lead by the Holy Spirit to question this person's question? Do you see how the logic falls flat? It is fine to ask questions. You should be careful to not make assumptions about other people's motives.
Fear of Man is evident here.
Great interview with brother David Platt...❗️
This man's speech is vague, he would not take a stance regarding 'woke ideology'. He seemed to be concealing something (obviously). You both seemed to ignore this.
Yes I got that too. And I know nothing about him
Yes! Very disappointing interview.
The example he gave of the staff member who only felt like “a welcomed guest” never defined any real offensive practice. His treatment of that question left a permanent victim/oppressor scenario with no practical way to resolve/repent/rectify/restore.
@@2wheelz3504excellent point!!!
@@2wheelz3504can you give specific examples of this instead of speaking in gross generalities?
Katie, you are replying to every criticism of Platt. It’s borderline obsessive. Platt's issues are well-documented. Cling to Christ, not a human pastor.
@peaceful525 that's because the complaints of platt on this thread are incredibly vague and use stupid terms like woke and CRT. my convinced the majority of people on this comment section has no clue what the term woke or CRT mean. So, I'm very suspicious when they use this defense against pastors or theologians, not just platt.
"Sameness" is very limited. Broadly, we shake hands instead of bowing. But 63% of Americans NEVER drink "soda." Just think of that. Reality DOES NOT correlate with advertising. TV and TV advertising are not "a window" on either the US or on the world "over there." I myself don't eat any store-bought bread, buns, donuts, cookies, cakes or ice cream. No "soda" either. I make my own mustard, sourdough and cheese at home from scratch. I don't use a microwave or coffee maker. But I do have a rice cooker. I also live in DC.@@2wheelz3504
First question, what is American Gospel, and how different it is from Biblical Gospel? Second, is David shepherding or breaking/destroying MBC? Somehow I feel like listening to Kamala answering interviewers about her vice presidential role.
Contrary to the seeming majority of these comments, I believe this was a good interview. Would like to see more with David Platt.
Of all the pastors you could platform, you choose Platt?
At this point, why not? They platformed Sam Storms and Mike Bickle (which they have since removed). They also platformed Todd White and they had coach him on how not to make the Kenosis heresy. Compared to Mike Bickle and Todd White, David Platt is rather tame.
@@maxmustermann1206 I just looked up Sam Storms and Remnant Radio and saw at least 9 videos.
U SEEM TRIGGERED SNOWFLAKE
@@maxmustermann1206 what’s your issue with Sam Storms? Good guy IMO.
He's right about people pimping the message. I wonder how much he's made from " ministry."
Less than john macarthur
@@katiecugini979nope… MacArthur 10-15 million… Platt 15-20 million as of 2024…
But that’s what guilty people do is find others they can compare themselves to so that don’t have to admit they themselves are doing wrong. Just saying.
@@mebsteve47I wonder if you are mistaken as there is a very wealthy David Platt who is the CEO of a major Corporation so easy to pick up the wrong figure. It would be equally disappointing if those figures are true and not just unsupported gossip (or mistakes) about both men as people should not get that rich from preaching the gospel. Do you know for sure though that these figures for both men are true (and you haven't made an identity mistake)? Also do you know that both men have kept this level of wealth for personal use rather than giving it for ministry? Given you have thrown out accusations here against two different pastors here it would be good to know that you can support them.
Bro, just Google it. You do the work if you really want to know.
The worst part to me is how you turned that around on me again.
I want to find good faithful Christians to point to but where are they? You obviously are struggling in that area as well.
Look into Platt’s hand picked Co-Lead Pastor, who seems to be Woke and his support of BLM which are anti-family, anti-American, anti-Free Market, oh and anti-Christian.
Also look into the Woke takeover of the SBC and the Woke SBC infiltration into the McLean Bible Church and the accusations of money funneling against David Platt. And how he now owns a $1.1 million dollar home.
Your Golden boy is not who you believe he is.
These group of guys that platformed him here aren’t dumb and obviously know all this but still had him on without at least getting him on the record about the accusations. Platt acts innocent and wholesome and continues the charade. Very sad for his family and the flock.
@@mebsteve47 have you had a chance to check your figures yet. If you are making accusations it's important that they are accurate so not to move into the territory of bearing false witness/slander.
I love to hear more and more brothers that are fighting for unity and engaging in theological triage! Men like Gavin Ortlund, David Platt, and the men at Remnant Radio are great voices speaking on unity, as Jesus prayed for in John 17. May God bless these voices in the American church and help the global church become more unified as One Body under our head Christ Jesus!
Thanks guys, I really enjoyed hearing David’s interview and helped frame a context to all this negative noise surrounding him. May the Lord continue to give Him wisdom as He ministers in DC.
This was a definition of “don’t get political, just preach the gospel.” Which a primary reason for the state of society. The Bible speaks about political issues in clear terms
Great interview. Haven’t always 100% agreed with him, but love his heart and passion for the assignment God has on his life. He has definitely opened my eyes to unreached people groups over the years.
Would also LOVE to see you guys interview John Mark Comer on Practicing the Way.
You guys go from one bad faith leader to the next.
When it comes to “agreeing to disagree” or “2nd & 3rd level doctrines”
I always wonder, how to faithfully apply or read these & other texts.
1 Corinthians 1:10, ”Now I plead with you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.“
1 Peter 3:8, ”Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another; love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous;“
Philippians 2:2, ”fulfill my joy by being like-minded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind.“
Any thoughts?
51:16 Josh that was brilliant mate. Massively spoke to me. Burdened by how divided the church is will be showing what you said to my church you nailed it.
I’m just so troubled by this interview with David Platt. He just won’t respond to the tough questions without deflecting to something everyone agrees upon. At his core it is evident he still espouses CRT, did not address the elder scandal or lawsuit, and just generally talked about lot without saying much. I’m really troubled by his back-handed self promotion while avoiding directly speaking to the embracement of these woke ideologies.
I understand the concept of second or third tier beliefs but I don't think this interview helped show clearly where Mr. Platt says that line should be drawn. The examples given were over things like infant baptism or dietary restrictions but Paul said that the Corinthian involved in sexual sin should be cut off from the congregation. Does this mean is OK for a member of the congregation to support a politician advocating for sexual sin? Or the murder of babies? As an honest question, doesn't it seem that Paul's condemnation and separation of one so that they may see the error of their ways apply here as well?
Christians obsessed with politics just don't get it. You can't influence people for the good by excommunicating them and isolating yourselves. You can think something is a sin without condemning the person. Excommunication is reserved for serious unrepentant sin!
If you can't vote for a president who is into sexual sin or who is prepared to allow abortion to be legal there will be no one you can vote for in the upcoming election.
Are you living a missional life. You can do that wherever you are. Over seas and in your backyard. Be in constant check of your heart, the idol factory. Regular spiritual rhythms. God wants obedience over sacrifice. If you are in step with Him, then you will know you are doing enough.
Thank you, for the book suggestion. The King of Kings, grace and peace be with you!
Oh wow just now looking up the documentary coming out about him. Looks really bad, but will reserve judgement until I see it.
Yeah I wish he had taken this opportunity to address all the accusations that were put out in that super long "trailer".
Looking forward to the forthcoming documentary about David Platt.
Stay Abiding in Jesus ✝️
This is disappointing indeed: to give a platform to thinly veiled CRT is beneath the brothers of RR.
Thank you so much remnant radio for stewarding this Amazing conversation! It is so important and timely. The politicization of Christianity in the US is one of the worst things to happen to the church in my opinion, so advocating for the gospel and kingdom of God instead of the American dream is so refreshing!
I also find I’m a bit frustrated with the countless comments about the accusations against David. Even IF the accusations were true, the message he just delivered in this interview was packed with truth!
There is no separation between church and state. None. When we cast our vote we cast our decision to back and live by the candidate we voted for should he or she win. That candidates moral values are those on which he /she will govern. Barrabas or Christ? Who gets your vote.
He sounds like a little boy. Maybe he really is mentally slow and has been manipulated into all the under-handed money schemes and take-over of McLean Bible Church. A kind-of Forest Gump for the global Gospel. Poor thing. God will turn all his evil and greed into holiness for sure.
of all the guests youve had, this guy is the Most SKETCH... A real live wolf
You’d probably do well to just mind your own business.
@@justincaseIspeaknot called to “mind our business
@@justincaseIspeak what a dumb thing to say lol no offense.
yeah I mean dude is super sketch. And now he is here pushing a book to make money off of. You know writing a book to sell about giving up creature comforts while you are a millionaire is hypocritical. Not to mention the other bad things he has said.
@bossabassa364 what bad things? How do you know how he spends his money? You are accusing him of being a sinner? Are you a sinner? Im pretty sure as christians we should not commit slander.
So disappointed with David Platt. How he has handled the church and his “woke”sermon on RUclips is terrible.
What woke sermon? Why do Christians keep using a very vague term like woke? Can you list actual sins he has committed instead of using dumb buzz words that really do not explain anything. It seems lazy to me.
Before Christ returns, I believe His bride will be purified, holy, obedient, abounding in and united in love. I believe that the conservative southern Baptists and hyper-charasmatics will come together, challenge their own faulty beliefs, come out of their echo chambers, sharpening each other. We will be people of spirit and word (truth). We can’t throw doctrine out and can’t make allowances and excuses for sin. Know and study the word and follow it, press in!
I saw David Platt preach back 7-8 years ago, and he always says that the most important command is to spread the Gospel to the nations. I always question pastors and ministry leaders who promote their ministry area as the most important of all ministries. It is very self-serving, and there is usually money involved.
He very clearly skirts the issues he’s talking about because HE KNOWS he’s wrong.
How exactly is he wrong? So give me a phrase he actually said and how it is exactly wrong? Don't use vague words like woke. Or accuse him of supporting CRT. Show me what he says that shows he supports CRT and then you explain to me what CRT IS.
@@katiecugini979 in his sermons there are many examples of him referencing “the color of my skin” and his assistant pastor saying he wants to “torch all white people”
@christosemper8715 is that a sin to talk about the color of our skin? Where is that in the bible ? You do know the color of our skin comes from God? Right? Please tell me you know this. Please show me video evidence of his assistant pastor saying he wants to torch white people. You can't just say things about people without showing the evidence.
@@katiecugini979 do some research on David Platt it's common knowledge what we are all saying ..why are you defending him without even researching my goodness it is clearly out there for you too see just search it out search David Platt woke pastor or David Platt scandals search on Google it's not hard to search and research and see .Be blessed Jesus is the Great king
@@christosemper8715😬
David Platt's book radical was the first faith based book I have read post salvation. It is awesome to see him open to spiritual gifts and not just open, but earnestly pursuing spiritual gifts as we are called to do.
Yes address the David Platt herseies and scandals
What heresies? What scandal? Howabout this - instead of saying he is a heretic you point out the actual heresies he has committed. Instead of saying he has committed scandals why don't you specifically say what the scandal actually is.
@@katiecugini979 If you care to know the answer to those questions (which is doubtful judging by your discourse in this comment section), may I suggest plugging them into the RUclips search bar. Ah, you know what...not worth the time.
@prestonjackson6155 I'm trying to get you to not easily accuse a christian brother of something and then not back it up. That is called slander, which is a sin.
Heresy? He's denied the Trinity? Denied the divinity of Christ? Or have we lowered the bar as to what constitutes a heresy these days?
@@littleboots9800 supporting a communist Antichrist anti-family organization BLM .. supporting homosexuality and all the lgbtq stuff
I am thinking the alphabet soup agenda and dignity of life are pretty big issues that seem to be breaking points for people. Can you touch on those?
I would have loved for them to probe a bit more into other cultural views to get a clearer picture of where the person really lands, because from what I have seen so far when people talk about the secondary issues usually mean cultural affirming issues. I agree there is much division, but what does unity really look like then, because the defense is always that whatever you have a problem with is a secondary issue, each one has their own journey with God, just love on them, and ultimately my truth, your truth 😞
I can see many people felt the same way as me about this guy. Lots of words but no actual answers, and no push back from the remnant guys. Disappointing.
Do the remnant guys think the sanctity of life is not a first bucket issue??
Be careful accepting what someone says they feel or think of how they are viewed. As a therapist I will assure you that Cognitive Distortions are active in all communications.
Sigh…another Platt episode. He is so woke - and preaching ANOTHER Gospel. Why do you platform him without asking questions about his thoughts on CRT, Marxism in the Church, the division in his church (which HE caused, etc)??
what „other gospel“ is he preaching?
where can i find out more about he division he caused?
@@J6warrior there’s a documentary on it. It’s called the real David Platt. It’s disturbing, They brought receipts, i’m waiting for David Platte, the SBC and the others involved to comment. Because, if this is not true, then they need to say so. but, so far they haven’t said a word.
Jesus commands us to love one another
… as He loved us
Hello Gentlemen, thank you for this interview, very insightful.
My impression is that much of the criticism here in the comment section is very politically infected and seems to be an American specific thing. As a German/European I cannot really understand the drama. I also cannot understand how people ignore the seriousness of gossiping about, shaming and cursing another person no matter their opinion. People seem to be hurt and they fill their pain with sinful gossiping instead of turning to Jesus for restoration.
It's not political to address sin homosexuality abortion BLm Critical race theory and all the anti family anti Christ organizations he affiliates with and endorses
Part of the problem is that Platt apparently has purchased an immense estate ( a mansion) for about 1.1 million USD while more or less bringing shame to white American Christians for not being generous enough.
@@ModernMozart1104 yes
Our proximity to Platt allows us understanding that you don't have. He is very problematic and amid a plethora of brushed under the rug scandals. And to be fair many have to do with in house American issues. Yes he is highly divisive in America because he espouses what many deem to be political and cultural responses from the pulpit as opposed to the word of God. And of course others disagree. None the less I've considered him best to simply be avoided. Godspeed my German brother.
@@JBly4 yes
I love remnant radio. I hate that they had Platt on. Platt is woke.
He is woke? What the heck do you mean by this term? Stop using buzz words that dont really mean anything.
Remnant radio = awesome
David Platt = Child of God
David Platts behavior = woke and very disconcerting.
@@ModernMozart1104woke? Disconcerting? Why not specifically say what you do not like about his message. It seems theologically lazy to just say woke and disconcerting.
@@katiecugini979 Woke is viewing western culture as oppressive. This is a term that the 'woke' themselves came up with. See Eric Mason's book 'Woke Church.' The main thrust of 'woke' ideology and CRT is that western culture is inherently 'systemically' racist, and that by mere fact of being white in America, you contribute to racism because you benefit from the American system. David Platt has assented to many of the core tenets of CRT in his sermons including the imputation of guilt on white people for having 'white privilege.' The idea of ancestral guilt is unbiblical and wrong. Placing guilt on people because of their skin color is racist. This is why many people have a problem with David Platt. Also, there was a lot of strong-arming with members of his church who took issue with perceived CRT being spoken from the pulpit. Certain folks were put in positions of leadership without congregational vote, and then Platt chastised members for bringing up concerns from the pulpit and removed their membership status. I don't know all the details, because I don't go to his church. But the tenets of CRT that he has adopted are problem enough. Progressivism in the pulpit may not seem like an issue to you, but it is a major issue. And people are right to question David Platt when he parrots a progressive ideology from the pulpit. You can pretend 'woke' ideology and CRT aren't a real threat to the gospel, but they are even if most people in the pews can't articulate like I just did.
@@adamr.6889thats fine to disagree with him about that, but people here are not being biblical about the way they disagree. I dont understand how people can watch RR and not comprehend the idea of being graceful and prayerful toward people you disagree with.
It’s unclear what he’s referring to as regarding who is being voted for. How you can be a Christian and vote for a pro-abortion candidate is beyond me. I’d rather vote for someone whose morality doesn’t kill babies in the womb even if their past personal life was less than God’s will. We have only one vote and the consequences are real. I’m tired of liberal pastors and scholars who are blind to this consideration.
I don't agree with abortion, but voting only about that issue while ignoring the fact that the man Donald J Trump committed adultery, hasn't asked for forgiveness, doesn't believe he needs to ask forgiveness, and is openly creating discord in a country founded on unity and community with their fellow man strikes me as not asking THE I AM THAT I AM for HIS opinion, and I would say that HE WHO IS RIGHTEOUS WILL STAND BEFORE JESUS, not someone like that. I don't believe who does one bad thing that you seriously hate is worse than someone whose life is a living example of racism and discord and vitriol who agrees with you on that issue. I rest my case, and you can choose who you want to lead your life, but I choose the Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit.
Sounds like some people in the comments need to break out of their theological and political echo chambers 🙃
What specific challenges regarding race?
Exactly. He doesn’t want to get into specifics because he knows it doesn’t make sense
Did you listen to the interview?
Yes I did, i was didn't hear anything specific regarding challenges.
How was it that Platt is linked to scandal and controversy. As far as I read it here was a man who went through a spiritual awakening which ended up in him putting seriously the mission of Jesus
In fact that Platt should be linked to scandal shows how far we have journeyed away from the true essence of church
Bad timing
im confused about why the comments are so hateful??
If you have a disagreement with David Platt, then continue on in disagreement but to be insulting the guys from Remnant Radio because they’re having a conversation with him is absolutely ridiculous
are we really so immature in our faith that we can’t see someone host a conversation with someone who differs from us on non-essentials of the faith?
This is so true. I picked up on it, immediately
No doubt some people leave hateful comments but being displeased with this episode or who they chose to interview is far from hateful. It is fair to levy criticism on the remnant radio guys if it seems they are not really pushing back against stuff that doesn't sound biblical.
They definitely call out other individuals when they are not doing the right thing, so it was odd to see them not really do it here. However, the remnant radio guys are very gracious when they interview someone directly and it is obvious that when they do criticize others, it is out of love. So, I personally am not really upset with them about this episode. But I can see how others might be bothered because this guest has made comments making it seem like only white Americans are guilty of racism or the only ones who show hate in this way, which is far from true. He deserves some pushback for some of his stances.
The problem with your question resides in the issue with Remnant Radio supporting guys such as Platt. I mean, it was even said at the very beginning that Michael is a fan... (which is quite troubling) this clearly indicates the obvious that it is not about having an unbiased platform or a space where people even holding different views can speak but that they endorse such individuals. It's been brought up many times that these guys are guilty of having some of the most heinous individuals on their platform that they fully endorse. The most recent with undeniable guilt was Mike Bickle. This incident should have been a major wake-up call to the community followers to this channel. Especially being there has yet to be a public confession of repentance regarding their support and guidance for a guy like Bickle. It's embarrassing to say the least and it's shameful that they haven't had the spiritual maturity to present that to their followers for their sake but most importantly our Lords sake.
From a biblical standpoint we as believers should be holding these folks accountable. We should not be allowing them to free reign with this type of support without having a biblical response to their actions. We are commanded to do that. Test all and reject that which is not of God.
This is supposed to be done in love and with that I encourage that be how we address them. Hatefulness is unacceptable and not how God wants us care for our neighbor. We should hate all things that are against God or do not represent him but through love is how we correct those things.
Remnant Radio needs to shed the pride and they need to repent. I pray that the Lord through his spirit will give them the urge to repent.
I love the RR guys. I believe they will come around and see him for what he really is. David P has changed radically in the past 12 years. He is a divider based upon issues - I wouldn’t go to a church he leads nor would I want folks like him in my church.
Such an interesting and helpful conversation. Thanks guys
Views on abortion inform who we vote for and I would argue that abortion is not a third bucket issue. We should not vote for politicians that actively support the murder of babies in the womb.
This would seem like a no-brainer- but they have racial Justice meetings but not save babies lives meetings…. No Justice issue there???
I don't agree with anything this man has to say. But he is a human being created in the image of God so I think Remnant was at least trying to respect that. There is no point having a guest on and just telling them they are a heretic and wolf in sheep's clothing for a whole hour. The fact that this guy is beyond vague and can't answer a straight question stands out a mile. What makes this gospel if you can call it that dangerous is appears good on the surface dig deeper it is not pretty.
Love one Another ✝️
except if you're white in this church. Mike Kelsey, the next pastor, has openly expressed hate for white people
I am not aware of any noise around him. He has always seemed to have his heart and mind right
Have y'all not watched the documentary about David Platt and his church?? 🐺😈😡
What I would say being a Christian and voting for a particular candidate absolutely is an issue not so much for the person but what policies they will put in place. It's everyone's right to vote how they see fit but I certainly question fellow believers who don't vote for candidates that are pro life, marriage between a man and woman, etc which I know to be biblical values. Would I discontinue fellowship with a person? No but I would question their convictions.
Great discussion - encouraging! Thanks, Remnant Radio! 💜✝️🔥
This isn’t a podcast that calls out truth. If it was, platt would have been scared to be on the podcast.
I'd love to hear how @remnantradio feels about the theology about these topics by Dr. Lamar Hardwick. Any thoughts on his works?
Everyone criticizing this man better be right because if youre wrong you will have to answer to the Lord.
@davod platt you're wrong you just got liberal and expose your heart with ungodly stances on key social issues
What exactly is he wrong about? Specifically? Can you produce actual evidence of things he has said or believes?
@@katiecugini979 are you serious you can't do a quick internet search of them and see all the things he believes and supports and all the the scandals he's involved in
@@katiecugini979 Here's some of the things Platt has said: "It's difficult for me sometimes not to just torch all white people...in particular, white evangelicals and Christians." and "We think to ourselves....i'm not racist, so racism is not my problem, but this is where we need to see that racism is my problem. It's all of our problem. We are immersed in it." and "Could it be that as much as we think of the church as a force for countering racism, right now the church is actually a force continuing it?" and "I look at my life and ministry and, in so many ways, my world has been so white." and "as a white pastor, I have blind spots and I'm part of the problem." and asked what his greatest regret was, and his answer being 'I was not intentional about leading the church toward greater ethnic diversity..." and used Amos 5 to teach on social justice. Any problem with these things?
one correction, the first statement about 'torching all white people' was made by Mike Kelsey who is an associate paster at Platt's church
@@adamr.6889 I have no problem with any of his statements.
WHAT happened to David Platt??
Discernment. Ask why do these people see barriers based on their race. Are they real? Or are they being TRAINED to look for these “barriers”
Racism is real if thats what you meant.
Look white man can't jump and you just have to grin and bear this hard truth.
It also sounds like they have more of a seeker sensitive type church, if we’re walking in the Spirit all will feel welcome. As long as the Word is upheld.
I am just about to watch this. My expectations are low. I saw him on Elephant Room 10 -12 years ago. Was impressed with his humility and gentleness. Since the fights in his church and seeing interviews, he’s changed. Seems to lack the Biblical focus. Also, isn’t it enough to pastor a church and focus on your relationships including your own family? Why so many books? Isn’t the church you serve enough? A pastor is supposed to preach on moral issues from a Biblical standpoint. Educating a church on how a declining culture is to be resisted is a pastor’s job. Thankfully, my pastor does the opposite from the political bucket analysis.
Shame on remnant radio for not addressing this guys scandals and immoral stance on social issues
Clout chasing at the expense of truth. Disappointing
Immoral stance on social issues? Ugh! Only American Christianity would think this way. I'm so glad German Christians do not have this same attitude towards the Jews.
What scandals and stance?
@@bobs8005 McLean Bible church takeover by bs crt. You should read more.
I genuinely would like to know what the scandals and immoral stances are. Would you please share for discussion and learning?
Why does the first bucket not include anything about the inerrancy and Holy inspiration of scripture and Christ alone? 🧐
I really don't see a true Christian voting for Biden
Many would say the same about the man you likely voted for. I only say this to have you know that there are Christians that have, and do, think that there are real issues with the Republican "standards" as well as the Democrats' "Standards".
Cue up a Big Eva guy trivializing differences between Democrats and Republicans in an election year. 😂 Check your Bible bro.
Political infections into christianity is so divisive. No political party will save us. The world is already on an irreversible path towards a one world antichristian government, and people obsessed with politics think they can change that.
Where do they talk about different buckets in the Bible? Sounds like different Gospels to me!
CRT??
I agree with the overall notion that Christianity in America is very America-central and inherently tied with its politics, which is really really weird from a historical and cultural perspective, and also seems very out of touch with the worldwide Christianity as a whole, but the conclusions he comes to and their implementation, by embracing a lot of the narratives that a normal Christian, regardless of culture, would deem very unchristian, is very suspicious and very irrelevant from the worldwide Christianity perspective.
Our problem, I think, as Christians in America, is we have a hard time distinguishing between being un-American and un-Christ-like.
The presenters and producers have shown there lack of discernment by hosting david platt.
He clearly has a heart for the gospel and for the Church.
It seems to me your mission is more important than the gospel
im so tired of church vicabulary. Be faithful. Live for God. Walk with him. What turns out is we perform out of guilt and church hierarchy expectations. We strive to become significant in the life of the church system. So political. i think leaders, teacher's, janitors, should not get paid. Freely do what God has given you to do. Keep a job and do something for free to contribute to the church operative. If you write books, the proceeds should go to the church. Keep some form of employment outside the church. Some would visit the sick and others would care for and report on finances. Everyone should be trained and encouraged to share the gospel in their sphere of influence. Nobody should get paid for work in the church. No one should profit monitarily for spreading and sharing the gospel. The American gospel centers around prosperity. Beautiful buildings, Rich preachers, entertaining worship, funny charismatic speakers. Money given should be available to help members in times of need. Tithes should be churches welfare so to speak. Money should go to college funds, medical, dental, rent. There should be no mansions hear on earth for the select, hoity toity so called pastors. We talk humility but have no concept of dying to self and magnifying God. We magnify our pastor and some of them fleece the flock by telling them to put money into the store house meaning their house or mansion or mansions and yahts and jets. Disgusting!! i go to church but if they point to a man and call him a man of god or say dont tough the anointed one, I'm outa there!!!
At this point you might as well have Kathryn Krick come on your show to discuss deliverance. Maybe through in Daniel Adams or Prophet Lovy Elias. That would make for some good theological content.
“There are three buckets in Christ” (Ephesians 6:66)
lol i c what you did there
Seems like you hold to a single bucket ecclesiology...
@@andrewmattiewalter The only bucket I hold to is the water bucket I use to water my pastor’s wife’s plants. You’d better take care who you sass because I am the church deacon/water boy! Maranatha
So he's still supporting Critical Race Theory ideology. I find Platt's wokeness extremely problematic. Do you guys plan on addressing this issue?
They don’t. They seem too star struck to want to push back on him as he dodged the specifics of the issue over and over
How is the desire to love all people regardless of ethnicity supporting CRT? I’m confused.
How is he supporting CRT?
@@natalielivella322 he talks about skin color and race and race based inequity. That’s not love. That’s Marxism which is anti Christian. He’s very careful to avoid specifics in this interview because he knows that will out him
@natalielivella322 it has nothing to do with loving all people. You obviously are not aware of the massive controversy with him concerning his pushing of CRT ideology.
I think David would be a great addition to the “he gets us” commercials.
I get this comment.
I get this comment.
Galatians 6:1
Brethren, if a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted.
Matthew 7:1-5
"Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "Let me remove the speck from your eye"; and look, a plank is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
I found your comment to blatantly disregard these biblical teachings. We are commanded to love one another.
Get a little discernment with a dash of humor, Jack. It will lighten your religious load. Have a great day, brother.
@@khuston7 Did I misinterpret your comment? It seemed like a jab to me.
Wow. Disappointing to say the least.
Maybe have him back on to address the documentary about his “shepherding” McLean church?
Specifically I’d like to hear more about the “box budget” and the political games at the SBC that he wrote about.
I love this man’s passion for spreading the gospel in missions. As for all the negative remarks, I’m glad God looks at the heart of a person. It seems that many of those presenting negative views of David Platt would have stoned King David for his shortcomings.
You do know God was going to kill David for what he did to Uriah and Bathsheba. He did kill the son who was born out of his adultery.
David covered up his sin by killing Uriah and marrying Bathsheba to hide the fact he had sex (maybe raped) with a married woman. He got away with it and it wasn't till Nathan came and condemned him later with the threat of David's life that he finally repented. This unfortunately didn't spare the life of the child which died.
Your example of David is a perfect example of God and fellow Christians holding leaders responsible and not letting them escape their unrepentant sin.
I don't know who this guy is, but I sense a lack of sincerity.
No unity in the church, holy Spirit isn't going to be in the midst 🕊️ Jesus 🙌
Father,let them be one as we are one
I don't have anything against him bc he didn't really say anything...no belief in anything other we need to listen to each other. I can see how he could be easily manipulated in the progressive movement. Hopefully not?
I agree with David Platts views for most part. I think those who don't understand his views need to actually watch his sermons directly not second hand information. He isn't woke politically but teaching Biblical Social Justice.
God restores but does not erase consequenses. The bible designates a very steep standard to qualify people to lead others. Christians can have blind spots and miss the red flags that would steer them away from evil. You might want to clarify the statement that you can't be a christian and believe that way to those beliefs are not congruant with the bible teachings and therefore are not Christian beliefs. We must leave the judgements of people for God to do. He never gives up on us. He has straightened me out on many occasions. Judging people is arrogant. Stay humble knowing we all are a work in progress and standing firmly for the truth is only successful when God sends us armed into the fray. Love does not mean accept. Love delivers justice with the purpose of protecting the innocent and redirecting the guilty.
He's just wrong. Would his message work for Bonhoeffer? He is just compromising to the culture.
I wish you had asked him what he thought about Michael Kelsey claiming Jesus had body dysphoria.
Where is the citation for this? That is outrageous!
What a total con. You guys should’ve pushed back on him, I’m surprised you didn’t.
I wish RUclips still had a thumbs down count. This episode would be interesting.
Why do people even have to over think the gospel.
People are taught to be victims in most cases. I'm so sick of this.
The Christian churches need to follow the Commandments of God and worship on Sabbath not Sundays. This is a remnant of Catholicism we never put a stop to but we must to be righteous. Come out of all the pagan ways if you want God to bless your church truly. This was told to us by Christ himself.
The apostles gathered on the Lord’s day after Jesus rose from the dead
@josh but you will partner with people with critical race theory abortion and homosexuality
Huh? What are you talking about? Stop talking in vague terms. What has he said about abortion? What has he said specifically about homosexuality? What actually is critical race theory?
@@katiecugini979 come on do some research look on the look on look at what look at the lawsuits better against him look at the people that have left the church that he is pastoring because of teaching critical race theory and his liberal stance on things look at where he supports black lives matters look at where he supports lgbtq look at what he said about abortion do some research it's not it's not that hard just put David Platt into the Google search engine David Platt scandal and you'll find all kinds of stuff that is going on do some research okay you can do it you can do it Jesus is the
The whole purpose of this podcast is to interview people with varying viewpoints! It seems like you have a hate problem towards leftists. Christians that can't operate in love and charity towards liberal minded people ignore the commandments of Christ. Liberal propaganda is real, people sincerely believe wrong things sometimes, have some sympathy and grace.
@@JackFoerster-Hunzicker All I know is sin is confronted in the church all throughout the new testament and we are to do the same ..yes grace ..yes love...but don't ignore the sin ..better is open rebuke than hidden love .reading the scripture started to picture me and my friends praising Jesus!!
@@steproetank Galatians 6:1
Brethren, if a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted.
Matthew 7:1-5
"Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "Let me remove the speck from your eye"; and look, a plank is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
I found your comment to blatantly disregard these biblical teachings. We are commanded to love one another as the highest law underneath loving God.
Platt has appeared to push the edge a few times on the racial issue, that I saw at the big conferences. That said, David is a solid Christian leader and right on with Jesus. He supports Biblical unity and leads well.
These guys should take this video down. Why give David a platform at any level when it's obvious at this point what went down.