This is the first time I've ever heard the name of this episode pronounced like this and all this time I've been thinking it was said another way, so, you earned your badge of honor on this one. As far as the episode goes, I was well aware that they were doing the movie during the summer of '97 so when I saw this episode, I was a bit shocked but figured Mulder faked his death somehow to buy himself time to do whatever he needed to do to either prove the lie or something else. I will say this was my favorite season of the entire run at the time.
I can't remember if I saw this when it first aired. I came into the show late. It wasn't until Season 6 that I really started watching obsessively. Until then, I watched a lot of reruns. I was forever trying to catch up so that the current eps I was catching here & there would makes sense. (Silly me, thinking this show ever "made sense.") Man alive, I wish I still had access to all the fanfic from back in the day! People went crazy with eps like this. I miss this show so much. The between seasons hiatus was torture. But the fic made it worth it! Ah, such good times. Sigh...
Fantastic video. I watched this when it aired; it was so much fun to speculate and theorize. 10:27. My sister and I thought maybe Scully was lying here but it didn’t make sense to us because in the past she’s been a terrible liar. I read somewhere that GA played this scene as if Scully thought Mulder was dead not knowing that Scully was lying. Also: love the thumbnail
I saw the episode when it aired in Germany… I was a young teenager and like I said before, it was a big drama and my parents had to get the vhs for me (it was on sell a few weeks before season 5 premiered here, because back than the episodes aired in the US a long time before we got a chance to see it… and the internet wasn‘t a big thing in the 90th 😅
The fact that everyone knew Agent Mulder would return for the X-Files movie the very next summer ^might have given the game away that Mulder's death was a fake out.
🤭 Michaels thumb picture. Best picture I've seen all week. Scully's brother, Bill who we never really see in the series, blames so much on Mulder. I'm surprised he even remembers Mulder from such brief encounters.
Being from the UK, the airing of new X-files episodes was delayed by several months compared to the US (which was typical in the 90's) so some plotlines got rumoured out on the net and got continual spoilers. Also, not sure bout elsewhere, these multi part conspiracy episodes came out on VHS tape releases (well before the episodes aired on TV) where I got to see "Gethsemane, Redux and Redux II" as one long movie so to speak, so there really wasn't much of a cliff hanger. The tape came out only when Season 4 was a third of the way through on TV. So for me, the whole "Mulder's Dead" cliffhanger issue didn't really have much of an impact or presence lol.
We had these VHS tapes in Germany too, where they an EU specific thing? They were my main source to catch up with what i missed, i started watching at the end of season 6. I also remember that they had different names than the episodes, for example the 3 episodes about Duane Barry and Scullys abduction where simply called "Die Entführung" ("The Abduction"), the Anasazi trilogy was called "Die ungeöffnete Akte" ("The unopened file") and Talitha Cumi/Herrenvolk was called "Masterplan".
In the Bible, Getsehmane is where Jesus' belief is tested to the breaking point, when he starts to doubt, is overcome by existential fear, and yes - is left utterly alone by his companions. I think that is a fuller description of the layers of the episode title here 😉
Jesus did not doubt or turn away. Rather, He showed obedience to the Father’s will despite the obvious stress it caused. The episode uses the name in reference to Mulder feeling betrayed, just as Christ was by Judas.
I think Mulder was so devastated not only because they broke his beliefs, but because Scully basically said they gave her cancer because of him. He finally realized that his crusade took a toll on his loved ones and that it was all in vain. Besides that, above average myth episodes, i used to like the Redux trilogy but it's not one of my favourites anymore.
I come to you from a new channel as my old one got nuked by youtube. Man fiesty scully is best Scully. And it's weird how someone scared or maybe even grieving in a way can lash out at the person going thorugh whatever that happens to be.
Im showing my age but watched it when it first aired yes it was shocking, I remember an article in a magazine called Disney Adventures back in the summer of 97, about the episode and it should also be noted that the season 5 premiere started in November later than usual
I don't think I ever had a theory about Mulder's alleged death. But when it comes to series and films, I don't ever trust a death unless we get to see the character in question actually dead. Even then it's not always true, so... Always be skeptical.
Gethsemane, from the French, of course, for 'Vegan salad crepe'. Never quite understood what the relevance was but there ya go. That there is a huge square table, and I think to myself, design choices were made with such a table. I recall being in school, several millennia ago, where we'd often have these weird trapezoidal wooden tables with metal legs, so, like, two of them long edge to long edge made a hexagon. I assume because hexagons are cool and not because we were being indoctrinated to think of ourselves as mere worker drones in a society devoid of individualism. Now that I come to write that, though… Anyway, I had this theory that there was another way to link a bunch of them to form a larger hexagon with a hole in the middle but I never got the chance as, well, for one I did my best to keep my head down at school. I found it best to adopt a stealth approach, which has probably led to where I am now which involves, having read The Prince several times, and, it's not as much fun as you'd imagine but worth a browse, it is quite short, and to a certain way of thinking, funny, a tendency towards Machiavellianism. For example, no one has yet noticed that I fired one of the bar staff at my local for being a git, because the mechanism for doing so was subtle. Where was I? Oh, yeah, so, for one I didn't want to get noticed and shifting eighteen tables around to indulge my whim was the opposite of that, but also, even back then I knew you could provenate the theorum with models, so I cut several models in half and got sent to Borstal. Oh, and, the thing about the hexagonal standard workgroup table was each one basically filled a classroom, so they were fundamental unsuited for purpose as is, which I now know is completely typical for British Comprehensives - it doesn't matter if they don't work, they're very cheap! Which also applies to the student body, of course, except, it's more make them work for cheap. Anyway, when you have a huge square table like that and it's not made of several smaller modular tables, and it probably was, I just then get giggles with the Oversight Committee trying to organise that in a menacing way prior to the meeting, then you have to decide on whether or not to have the hole in the middle and there are few reasons to do so. My guessing is that they really, really don't want accused FBI agents passing each other notes. It's that or secretly they hire a lot of FBI agents based on their leg Derek numbers, which is more of a Tarantino thing. Of course, not liking Tarantino, I wouldn't want to see a Tarantino X-Files episode, except I do, now, really want to do that. It'd have to be a MOTW one. I just find him self-indulgent is all. I agree that he's a gifted dialogue crafter and superb cinematographer. I don't think he's bad, I just don't warm to him work personally. Lots of people find 2001 dull, I think that's fair, but it is genius. S'like that. I am over the halfway mark and as I reach to hit the pause button, I'm just about two minutes through the review. At this rate I'd be looking at around a 4k ramble, but, rules is as rules do. If I may, in re vis re mensa ipsum pollam, here's the story. We were anchored in Phuket last november and Ensign Hoote, you remember, the supply officer? Well, unknownst to me he he'd gone ashore to restock and it seems he decided what we needed was a proper roast, so he went ahead and bought a chicken. Being already laden down with all this booze and cigarettes, he had 'em delivered to the ship. So, he figured it'd turn up plucked and feathered but this is Thailand, so the next thing he knows is he's got Errol aboard, flapping and crawing all over the place and this is all against regulations, obviously, can't have feathers in the triple C, so, he's gotta hide this thing until he's got time to get it prepped for the Thanksgiving dinner, see, he figures being able to produce a whole roast chicken for the officer's mess will be just a buttload of brownie points, so he figures the only place no one's going to look is the brig, so Errol the Chicken gets locked in with a big bowl of oatmeal. In the meantime I've got Lieutenant Buscae doing a final inspection before we weigh anchor and skeedaddle over to Japan and he comes to me and tells me he's found Hoote with a buttload of vodka. Captain's orders, that's a week in the brig, so we haul Hoote down there, and we tell the sergeant at arms what Hoote's there for, and he opens up the brig and he asks me, "That's fine, but what did the chicken in there do?" You'd think if your name was Babcock you'd at least have it changed to Badcock. Or Shuttlecock. "The name's Shuttlecock, Randall Shuttlecock." "You play a lot of badminton?" "No, I am an astronaut." The screw up with the moulded alien thing is the one they have has its eyes open, which means it cannot have been poured. SFX error. The other reason for having the hole in the table is so you can have a model of Gadzook City, or whatever, rise up on hydraulics so you can show the investors your evil scheme. This is something I one day hope to have in my den. I will require a den first, of course, so, we're a long way off, and I am very, very old so, might have to put that on the wish list. Nice episode, though, despite the flaws, and a great cliffhanger.
Though it may be out of your wheelhouse, give this ruclips.net/video/o-00OWb560M/видео.html a review sometime, JB. One particular guest star alone is likely to make it worth your while
X-Files is the best show ever made
This is the first time I've ever heard the name of this episode pronounced like this and all this time I've been thinking it was said another way, so, you earned your badge of honor on this one. As far as the episode goes, I was well aware that they were doing the movie during the summer of '97 so when I saw this episode, I was a bit shocked but figured Mulder faked his death somehow to buy himself time to do whatever he needed to do to either prove the lie or something else. I will say this was my favorite season of the entire run at the time.
I’m glad he pronounced it correctly!
Nice bro. Love this series and love that everyone watching has seen the episodes a 100 times too 😂😂❤❤
It's always a treat when you post. Thank you.
I can't remember if I saw this when it first aired. I came into the show late. It wasn't until Season 6 that I really started watching obsessively. Until then, I watched a lot of reruns. I was forever trying to catch up so that the current eps I was catching here & there would makes sense. (Silly me, thinking this show ever "made sense.") Man alive, I wish I still had access to all the fanfic from back in the day! People went crazy with eps like this. I miss this show so much. The between seasons hiatus was torture. But the fic made it worth it! Ah, such good times. Sigh...
WOO HOO! I was waiting for you to cover every episode, season 4 is my favourite season, i was waiting until you were complete so i can do a marathon!
This recap gave me such a chuckle, will definitely be watching more
Fantastic video. I watched this when it aired; it was so much fun to speculate and theorize.
10:27. My sister and I thought maybe Scully was lying here but it didn’t make sense to us because in the past she’s been a terrible liar. I read somewhere that GA played this scene as if Scully thought Mulder was dead not knowing that Scully was lying.
Also: love the thumbnail
I saw the episode when it aired in Germany… I was a young teenager and like I said before, it was a big drama and my parents had to get the vhs for me (it was on sell a few weeks before season 5 premiered here, because back than the episodes aired in the US a long time before we got a chance to see it… and the internet wasn‘t a big thing in the 90th 😅
The fact that everyone knew Agent Mulder would return for the X-Files movie the very next summer ^might have given the game away that Mulder's death was a fake out.
Great season recap! Can't wait for season 5!!
🤭 Michaels thumb picture. Best picture I've seen all week. Scully's brother, Bill who we never really see in the series, blames so much on Mulder. I'm surprised he even remembers Mulder from such brief encounters.
Perfect Timing 🥰🥰
DOPE VIDEO JB, THANKS! CAN'T WAIT TILL SEASON 5!
Being from the UK, the airing of new X-files episodes was delayed by several months compared to the US (which was typical in the 90's) so some plotlines got rumoured out on the net and got continual spoilers.
Also, not sure bout elsewhere, these multi part conspiracy episodes came out on VHS tape releases (well before the episodes aired on TV) where I got to see "Gethsemane, Redux and Redux II" as one long movie so to speak, so there really wasn't much of a cliff hanger. The tape came out only when Season 4 was a third of the way through on TV.
So for me, the whole "Mulder's Dead" cliffhanger issue didn't really have much of an impact or presence lol.
We had these VHS tapes in Germany too, where they an EU specific thing? They were my main source to catch up with what i missed, i started watching at the end of season 6. I also remember that they had different names than the episodes, for example the 3 episodes about Duane Barry and Scullys abduction where simply called "Die Entführung" ("The Abduction"), the Anasazi trilogy was called "Die ungeöffnete Akte" ("The unopened file") and Talitha Cumi/Herrenvolk was called "Masterplan".
Yesss! I love these videos. ☺️
The biggest cliffhanger in the show. People were genuinely wondering whether Mulder killed himself
You can have all of Chris Carter’s “big ideas.” I’ll take the monster of the week episodes any time.
In the Bible, Getsehmane is where Jesus' belief is tested to the breaking point, when he starts to doubt, is overcome by existential fear, and yes - is left utterly alone by his companions. I think that is a fuller description of the layers of the episode title here 😉
Jesus did not doubt or turn away. Rather, He showed obedience to the Father’s will despite the obvious stress it caused. The episode uses the name in reference to Mulder feeling betrayed, just as Christ was by Judas.
I think Mulder was so devastated not only because they broke his beliefs, but because Scully basically said they gave her cancer because of him. He finally realized that his crusade took a toll on his loved ones and that it was all in vain. Besides that, above average myth episodes, i used to like the Redux trilogy but it's not one of my favourites anymore.
Hola JB from Colorado! It's been snowing and we're going to get hit again Saturday!
I come to you from a new channel as my old one got nuked by youtube. Man fiesty scully is best Scully. And it's weird how someone scared or maybe even grieving in a way can lash out at the person going thorugh whatever that happens to be.
Im showing my age but watched it when it first aired yes it was shocking, I remember an article in a magazine called Disney Adventures back in the summer of 97, about the episode and it should also be noted that the season 5 premiere started in November later than usual
I’ve never liked this episode because Mulder is way too easily convinced by this Kritchcow guy
15:31 In Tunguska they were Russian on the X-Files 🥁
Scully is a Medical Doctor?!?!
I don't think I ever had a theory about Mulder's alleged death. But when it comes to series and films, I don't ever trust a death unless we get to see the character in question actually dead. Even then it's not always true, so... Always be skeptical.
It’s about time they went to Canada!
Gethsemane, from the French, of course, for 'Vegan salad crepe'. Never quite understood what the relevance was but there ya go.
That there is a huge square table, and I think to myself, design choices were made with such a table. I recall being in school, several millennia ago, where we'd often have these weird trapezoidal wooden tables with metal legs, so, like, two of them long edge to long edge made a hexagon. I assume because hexagons are cool and not because we were being indoctrinated to think of ourselves as mere worker drones in a society devoid of individualism. Now that I come to write that, though…
Anyway, I had this theory that there was another way to link a bunch of them to form a larger hexagon with a hole in the middle but I never got the chance as, well, for one I did my best to keep my head down at school. I found it best to adopt a stealth approach, which has probably led to where I am now which involves, having read The Prince several times, and, it's not as much fun as you'd imagine but worth a browse, it is quite short, and to a certain way of thinking, funny, a tendency towards Machiavellianism. For example, no one has yet noticed that I fired one of the bar staff at my local for being a git, because the mechanism for doing so was subtle. Where was I? Oh, yeah, so, for one I didn't want to get noticed and shifting eighteen tables around to indulge my whim was the opposite of that, but also, even back then I knew you could provenate the theorum with models, so I cut several models in half and got sent to Borstal. Oh, and, the thing about the hexagonal standard workgroup table was each one basically filled a classroom, so they were fundamental unsuited for purpose as is, which I now know is completely typical for British Comprehensives - it doesn't matter if they don't work, they're very cheap! Which also applies to the student body, of course, except, it's more make them work for cheap.
Anyway, when you have a huge square table like that and it's not made of several smaller modular tables, and it probably was, I just then get giggles with the Oversight Committee trying to organise that in a menacing way prior to the meeting, then you have to decide on whether or not to have the hole in the middle and there are few reasons to do so. My guessing is that they really, really don't want accused FBI agents passing each other notes. It's that or secretly they hire a lot of FBI agents based on their leg Derek numbers, which is more of a Tarantino thing.
Of course, not liking Tarantino, I wouldn't want to see a Tarantino X-Files episode, except I do, now, really want to do that. It'd have to be a MOTW one. I just find him self-indulgent is all. I agree that he's a gifted dialogue crafter and superb cinematographer. I don't think he's bad, I just don't warm to him work personally. Lots of people find 2001 dull, I think that's fair, but it is genius. S'like that.
I am over the halfway mark and as I reach to hit the pause button, I'm just about two minutes through the review. At this rate I'd be looking at around a 4k ramble, but, rules is as rules do.
If I may, in re vis re mensa ipsum pollam, here's the story.
We were anchored in Phuket last november and Ensign Hoote, you remember, the supply officer? Well, unknownst to me he he'd gone ashore to restock and it seems he decided what we needed was a proper roast, so he went ahead and bought a chicken. Being already laden down with all this booze and cigarettes, he had 'em delivered to the ship. So, he figured it'd turn up plucked and feathered but this is Thailand, so the next thing he knows is he's got Errol aboard, flapping and crawing all over the place and this is all against regulations, obviously, can't have feathers in the triple C, so, he's gotta hide this thing until he's got time to get it prepped for the Thanksgiving dinner, see, he figures being able to produce a whole roast chicken for the officer's mess will be just a buttload of brownie points, so he figures the only place no one's going to look is the brig, so Errol the Chicken gets locked in with a big bowl of oatmeal. In the meantime I've got Lieutenant Buscae doing a final inspection before we weigh anchor and skeedaddle over to Japan and he comes to me and tells me he's found Hoote with a buttload of vodka. Captain's orders, that's a week in the brig, so we haul Hoote down there, and we tell the sergeant at arms what Hoote's there for, and he opens up the brig and he asks me, "That's fine, but what did the chicken in there do?"
You'd think if your name was Babcock you'd at least have it changed to Badcock. Or Shuttlecock. "The name's Shuttlecock, Randall Shuttlecock." "You play a lot of badminton?" "No, I am an astronaut."
The screw up with the moulded alien thing is the one they have has its eyes open, which means it cannot have been poured. SFX error.
The other reason for having the hole in the table is so you can have a model of Gadzook City, or whatever, rise up on hydraulics so you can show the investors your evil scheme. This is something I one day hope to have in my den. I will require a den first, of course, so, we're a long way off, and I am very, very old so, might have to put that on the wish list.
Nice episode, though, despite the flaws, and a great cliffhanger.
IIRC my response to the revelation of Mulder's death was 'Bollocks!" and a derisive snort.
LOL REMEMBER SPACSTATION ON SPACE CHANNEL? GREAT MOVIES.
👏👏👏👏👏👏
In season 8, this was all done
Babcock!
👌
Hehehehehe....Babcock...
You have passed my knowledge. 1st movie soon
I'm not a fan of this one, the fourth season is very good, but the last episodes of the season have always been weak for me.
First!
Babcock😂😂😂
Though it may be out of your wheelhouse, give this ruclips.net/video/o-00OWb560M/видео.html a review sometime, JB. One particular guest star alone is likely to make it worth your while
You think Babcock is funny? I used to work with a lady called Nita Badcock. Her parent's were either sadist's or they had a wicked sense of humour!
Babcock!