The senator didn´t kill the girl. She was killed, while he was knocked out on something. All so the Corleone family had him under control. Well, that is what I have always thought about that scene.
@@louismarzullo1190 but you'll notice Al stalls for a second or 2 before leaving. I always took that as him not respecting Tom's authority. Very subtle but effective
Negative slang terms or slurs for Italians were: wop; dago; guinea. Occasionally, greaseball, might be used for anyone from the Mediterranean area or from any Latin background.
Also, it's cut out in the theater version, but the friend at the grocery store becomes partners in the olive oil business (its named after him) and becomes the consiglieri. He dies at the beginning of the first movie, leading Tom to be promoted. Also, Roth starts out working for the Don as a mechanic. The guy that is with young Vito when they take vengeance in Sicily is Tomasino, the Don that was protecting Michael while he was in hiding.
I think you will appreciate #3, even though it's not as popular and not as well-done as the first two. The reason it's important to me is because the entire trilogy is meant to be an approximation of reality, as witnessed or uncovered by the author, Mario Puzo, during his life. The third part is more controversial since it brings the church in; however, it is connected, perhaps loosely to real events up through 1978. Obviously Roman Catholics will not approve of the conclusions of #3, though most Protestants will at least find it plausible. Even if you don't react to it, i'd encourage you to watch it. The senate hearings were a real thing, which were called in response to controversy over whether the mafia as a nationwide entity even existed, and if it did, what the extent of its reach was. Many found it crazy that some politicians were covering for them by claiming they didn't even exist or didn't exist outside certain cities, and it was seen as suspicious that those politicians were doing this. IMO, the subject matter is very important for everyone to be familiar with, down to the present day. That's why i also feel like everyone should see #3. It's not about proving or disproving the whole episode, it's about the fact that it was authored by a witness to history, and this is his testimony. To evaluate its credibility, we must actually experience the testimony. Much of what he wrote in his book was originally controversial but has since been shown to be true. This makes it important to also look at the other things, even if some still consider them questionable. That said, again the film is not as well done but it's plenty better than some of the ones you've posted. Have a good rest of your day and thanks!
"Now, that's gas prices..." Prices were cheaper but so were wages. My dad was born in 1924. He told me once that when he was a kid, he could take a bus downtown, see a movie, get a soda, and ride the bus back home, all for a dollar. I asked him : "Yeah, but how often did you actually have a whole dollar ?"
Vito came from such a tough childhood and somehow survived those tough streets to be so loved at the end. But Michael was pulled in by love of his father and wanting to protect the family after Sonny died was hated by Connie for a long time, hated by Kay.. dann. Heavy is the head that wears the crown
42:50, another RUclipsr thought Kay was brave for her decision and method for leaving Michael. Actually Kay was naive as heck. Michael has ordered lives ended for far less. But she has never truly seen that side of him. If it wasn't for the fact that she was his wife and the mother of his two children, it would have went really bad for her.
If you look it up, wop wasn't based on "without papers", but based on a slang term for "guapo" which is Napoletano for "dandy, dude, stud" still used in Napoli.
There were no papers required for immigration before the introduction of racist quotas in the 1920s. You just arrived. The ‘Corleone’ name change scene at Ellis Island is based on an urban legend. No names were changed at Ellis Island.
Just a note about the scene where Frankie Pentangeli is attacked in the bar by the Rosato bros- he DIDN'T go there alone. He came with Willi Cicci (memorable late actor Joe Spinell) who was the guy out shooting in the street when the cops came and got hit by Rosato's getaway car. Cicci returns in Spinell's scene stealing appearance before the Senate committee, talking about "buffers" in the Corleone hierarchy
There was a contagious eye disorder that could cause blindness. To the credit of Ellis Island, if they notices someone had it, they would be quarantined, treated, and then released.
My Sicilian grandfather passed through Ellis Island in 1908. For the time, it was a crisp and efficiently run facility with some dedicated staff, especially the medical workers. It would have been impressive to immigrants from all over, many of whom would have never seen such organization.
I don't know if you caught this or not but the role of "Johnny Ohla" was played by Dominic Chianese. He played the character "Uncle Junior" on The Sopranos a couple of decades later.
He deserved it though. He almost got his own brother k!ll3d and almost made his niece and nephew orphans. It’s one thing to be betrayed by a spouse or somebody you thought was a friend, but to be betrayed by your own flesh and blood in my book, is unforgivable.
20:35 American gangsters dividing up a "Cuba" cake just as they're planning to divide up the actual country amongst themselves. "Make sure everyone gets a slice"
Wop is from the entry sites identification methods. If you came into the immigration center without any recognized ID a sign was worn on them reading WOP, (without papers).
Ok girl your hair is GIVING!!!! Also WOP stands for without papers and was a derogatory way to refer to Italians back in the day ❤. Love your channel friend!!!
People say #3 isn't as good as #1 & #2. Good Lord, both of them won an Oscar for 'Best Picture' did they really expect three 'Best Picture' Oscar worthy films in a row? The Godfather sequel is one of the very few sequels to win a 'Best Picture' Oscar & people think what? #3 is supposed to win one too? Of course 'it's not as good'. 99% of films ever made, 'are not as good'.
My favorite part of this movie is the flashbacks of how Vito Corleone basically invented himself out of nothing. I like the character of Vito Corleone much more than Michael's. Vito Corleone never raised his voice and shouted at people the Michael did. Shouting at people like that, I think in Vito's opinion, would be a sign of weakness.
Vito saw how Fanucci operated. Fanucci shouted, threatened, and pushed people around - and he died alone with no one to help. Vito OTH showed respect and courtesy, and only threatened when his first reasonable offer was rejected (for example, the bandleader incident from the first film). The other side of that is that if he made a threat, it would be carried out.
If you are going to watch Godfather III, I would highly recommend NOT watching the Coda version. There is an important ending to the movie that isnt shown in the Coda version, so watch the original version.
explorewith india Movies: Starting at 7min. 31sec. and following with your then asking - after 7m.39s. - "What is a 'wop'?": "The word likely transformed into the slur 'wop' following the arrival of poor Italian immigrants into the United States. Southern Italian immigrant males would often refer to one another as guappo in a jocular or playful manner; as these Italian immigrants often worked as manual laborers in the United States, their native-born American employers and fellow laborers took notice of the Italians' playful term of address and eventually began deploying it as a derogatory term for all Italians and Southern Europeans, along with the term Dago.[6] The term guappo was especially used by older Italian immigrant males to refer to the younger Italian male immigrants arriving in America.[8][5]"
I enjoyed part 3, also. Just can't compared it to the 1st 2. Enjoy your reactions. Would love to see you react to Donnie Brasco (true story), The Pope of Greenwich village with Mickey Roarke & The Drop with Tom Hardy.
Part 3 has some positive aspects- nice scenes in Italy, for one. But the acting seems to have lost a lot of strength, the plot gets complicated but not in an interesting way, focus goes towards other characters, not a very powerful script, and the emotions seem forced and events are predictable. It might be worthwhile to watch to wind up the story of this family while everything is still fresh in your mind. Just don’t let your expectations ruin the wonder of the first two.
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The senator didn´t kill the girl. She was killed, while he was knocked out on something. All so the Corleone family had him under control. Well, that is what I have always thought about that scene.
Al Neri was seen in the bathroom (?)washing his hands with his sleeves rolled up. Yeah, she was killed while Geary was drugged.
That’s how took the scene as well.
That’s absolutely what happened. I just feel bad for that poor girl.
Neri wanted to revel in the senator's agony, watch him squirm. Tom, ever the level-headed one, nods to Al to get lost.
@@louismarzullo1190 but you'll notice Al stalls for a second or 2 before leaving. I always took that as him not respecting Tom's authority. Very subtle but effective
Negative slang terms or slurs for Italians were: wop; dago; guinea.
Occasionally, greaseball, might be used for anyone from the Mediterranean area or from any Latin background.
6:03, this actor speaking is Dominic Chianese. He played the character Uncle Junior on The Sopranos over two decades after this movie came out.
The two compatriots of young Vito are Clemenza and Tessio.
Also, it's cut out in the theater version, but the friend at the grocery store becomes partners in the olive oil business (its named after him) and becomes the consiglieri. He dies at the beginning of the first movie, leading Tom to be promoted. Also, Roth starts out working for the Don as a mechanic. The guy that is with young Vito when they take vengeance in Sicily is Tomasino, the Don that was protecting Michael while he was in hiding.
Genko was the one in the theater with Vito.
I think you will appreciate #3, even though it's not as popular and not as well-done as the first two. The reason it's important to me is because the entire trilogy is meant to be an approximation of reality, as witnessed or uncovered by the author, Mario Puzo, during his life. The third part is more controversial since it brings the church in; however, it is connected, perhaps loosely to real events up through 1978. Obviously Roman Catholics will not approve of the conclusions of #3, though most Protestants will at least find it plausible. Even if you don't react to it, i'd encourage you to watch it.
The senate hearings were a real thing, which were called in response to controversy over whether the mafia as a nationwide entity even existed, and if it did, what the extent of its reach was. Many found it crazy that some politicians were covering for them by claiming they didn't even exist or didn't exist outside certain cities, and it was seen as suspicious that those politicians were doing this. IMO, the subject matter is very important for everyone to be familiar with, down to the present day. That's why i also feel like everyone should see #3. It's not about proving or disproving the whole episode, it's about the fact that it was authored by a witness to history, and this is his testimony. To evaluate its credibility, we must actually experience the testimony. Much of what he wrote in his book was originally controversial but has since been shown to be true. This makes it important to also look at the other things, even if some still consider them questionable. That said, again the film is not as well done but it's plenty better than some of the ones you've posted.
Have a good rest of your day and thanks!
No, stop at #2. Watching Kay's abortion is a better choice than #3.
Everytime I see the end of this movie, I look at Michael and think to myself, "Your father would be ashamed of you."
"Now, that's gas prices..." Prices were cheaper but so were wages.
My dad was born in 1924. He told me once that when he was a kid, he could take a bus downtown, see a movie, get a soda, and ride the bus back home, all for a dollar. I asked him : "Yeah, but how often did you actually have a whole dollar ?"
15:18, Hyman Roth is being played by the great actor Lee Strasberg. He was the acting teacher for both Al Pacino and Robert De Niro.
And Marlon Brando.
@@richardzinns5676Good point
Vito came from such a tough childhood and somehow survived those tough streets to be so loved at the end. But Michael was pulled in by love of his father and wanting to protect the family after Sonny died was hated by Connie for a long time, hated by Kay.. dann. Heavy is the head that wears the crown
My grandfather came to NY from Sicily in 1908, and my mother and aunts were born and grew up on Elizabeth St. in that same neighborhood.
42:50, another RUclipsr thought Kay was brave for her decision and method for leaving Michael. Actually Kay was naive as heck. Michael has ordered lives ended for far less. But she has never truly seen that side of him.
If it wasn't for the fact that she was his wife and the mother of his two children, it would have went really bad for her.
WOP = Without Papers.
Many people showed up to Ellis Island this way, but the Italian people got stuck with the name.
If you look it up, wop wasn't based on "without papers", but based on a slang term for "guapo" which is Napoletano for "dandy, dude, stud" still used in Napoli.
There were no papers required for immigration before the introduction of racist quotas in the 1920s. You just arrived. The ‘Corleone’ name change scene at Ellis Island is based on an urban legend. No names were changed at Ellis Island.
This and Empire Strikes Back are two of the best sequels in movie history. They should be in everybody’s top 5.
His homie that got shot is the old dude from the 1st movie they sent Michael to.
34:40, I like that Vito calmly told him "Go ask folks about me"
The cup being put on baby Fredo was a painful folk remedy for lung congestion that involved raising blisters.
Just a note about the scene where Frankie Pentangeli is attacked in the bar by the Rosato bros- he DIDN'T go there alone. He came with Willi Cicci (memorable late actor Joe Spinell) who was the guy out shooting in the street when the cops came and got hit by Rosato's getaway car. Cicci returns in Spinell's scene stealing appearance before the Senate committee, talking about "buffers" in the Corleone hierarchy
There was a contagious eye disorder that could cause blindness. To the credit of Ellis Island, if they notices someone had it, they would be quarantined, treated, and then released.
My Sicilian grandfather passed through Ellis Island in 1908. For the time, it was a crisp and efficiently run facility with some dedicated staff, especially the medical workers. It would have been impressive to immigrants from all over, many of whom would have never seen such organization.
Michael realised it was Fredo that betrayed him when watching the magic trick as Fredo let slip a detail.
The first prequel playing at the same time as the sequel was a genius way to go and it's what makes it the greatest sequel ever.
I don't know if you caught this or not but the role of "Johnny Ohla" was played by Dominic Chianese. He played the character "Uncle Junior" on The Sopranos a couple of decades later.
You can watch the most detailed analysis of the Godfather on my channel!
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Enjoyed watching this with you. God bless you.
The film's greatest irony: in the name of protecting the family, Michael kills his brother.
He deserved it though. He almost got his own brother k!ll3d and almost made his niece and nephew orphans. It’s one thing to be betrayed by a spouse or somebody you thought was a friend, but to be betrayed by your own flesh and blood in my book, is unforgivable.
20:35 American gangsters dividing up a "Cuba" cake just as they're planning to divide up the actual country amongst themselves. "Make sure everyone gets a slice"
Wop is from the entry sites identification methods. If you came into the immigration center without any recognized ID a sign was worn on them reading WOP, (without papers).
46:19, Connie is gonna be interesting. You got to watch Part III.
Ok girl your hair is GIVING!!!! Also WOP stands for without papers and was a derogatory way to refer to Italians back in the day ❤. Love your channel friend!!!
You don't really "need" to watch the 3rd. It's subpar.
People say #3 isn't as good as #1 & #2. Good Lord, both of them won an Oscar for 'Best Picture' did they really expect three 'Best Picture' Oscar worthy films in a row? The Godfather sequel is one of the very few sequels to win a 'Best Picture' Oscar & people think what? #3 is supposed to win one too? Of course 'it's not as good'. 99% of films ever made, 'are not as good'.
If you go to Ellis island the quarantine cells are still there
My favorite part of this movie is the flashbacks of how Vito Corleone basically invented himself out of nothing. I like the character of Vito Corleone much more than Michael's. Vito Corleone never raised his voice and shouted at people the Michael did. Shouting at people like that, I think in Vito's opinion, would be a sign of weakness.
Vito saw how Fanucci operated. Fanucci shouted, threatened, and pushed people around - and he died alone with no one to help. Vito OTH showed respect and courtesy, and only threatened when his first reasonable offer was rejected (for example, the bandleader incident from the first film).
The other side of that is that if he made a threat, it would be carried out.
"Wop" was a racial slur against Italians.
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If you are going to watch Godfather III, I would highly recommend NOT watching the Coda version. There is an important ending to the movie that isnt shown in the Coda version, so watch the original version.
explorewith india Movies:
Starting at 7min. 31sec. and following with your then asking - after 7m.39s. - "What is a 'wop'?":
"The word likely transformed into the slur 'wop' following the arrival of poor Italian immigrants into the United States.
Southern Italian immigrant males would often refer to one another as guappo in a jocular or playful manner; as these Italian immigrants often worked as manual laborers in the United States, their native-born American employers and fellow laborers took notice of the Italians' playful term of address and eventually began deploying it as a derogatory term for all Italians and Southern Europeans, along with the term Dago.[6]
The term guappo was especially used by older Italian immigrant males to refer to the younger Italian male immigrants arriving in America.[8][5]"
Watch the detailed analysis of the Godfather on my channel!
I enjoyed part 3, also. Just can't compared it to the 1st 2. Enjoy your reactions. Would love to see you react to Donnie Brasco (true story), The Pope of Greenwich village with Mickey Roarke & The Drop with Tom Hardy.
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''Wop'' is a derogatory term for an Italians. Like the N-word to us, so don't use it 🤣
Part 3 has some positive aspects- nice scenes in Italy, for one. But the acting seems to have lost a lot of strength, the plot gets complicated but not in an interesting way, focus goes towards other characters, not a very powerful script, and the emotions seem forced and events are predictable. It might be worthwhile to watch to wind up the story of this family while everything is still fresh in your mind. Just don’t let your expectations ruin the wonder of the first two.
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7:42 its like the N word for them. Its a bad word for there race
Don't bother with part 3. Walk away a winner
RACIAL SLUR/ WOP
Don’t watch part 3
Agree. Part 3 was terrible.
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