The Survivor 45 Auction Is A Massive Cause For Concern
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- When the news came out that for the first time in 15 seasons that we would have the Survivor auction back I like many fans was joyous. Finally we would go from the robotic advantage centred ideology perpetuated by the prior four seasons of the modern era to greener pastures. No longer would there be extremely convoluted twists or contestants needlessly losing their votes right? Needless to say, as the title suggests, this auction was just super worrying…
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0:00 The Start
0:40 Context
1:33 The Auction Challenge
2:43 No Advantages
3:06 Number In A Bag
3:31 Contestants Lose A Vote
4:14 It's Not an Auction
6:00 Predictable Winners
6:57 The Luck Based Outcome
7:49 Modern Survivor Philosophies
8:10 The Time
8:24 How To Fix The Auction
9:06 Australian Survivor Inspiration
9:40 The Conclusion
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"Survivor" is a popular reality television show that has been captivating audiences around the world for many years. The show's concept revolves around a group of contestants, often around 16 to 20 individuals, who are marooned in a remote and challenging location, such as an island, jungle, or desert. These contestants are usually divided into two or more tribes at the beginning of the game.
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But second I really want to push home the fact that I am happy the auction is back (of course!) I've never got to experience watching an auction on Survivor live as I've only been part of the community for 5 years and this did still have its fun moments like Bruce, Emily's twerking and the fish eye. But...can it be improved? Absolutely and this video is me looking at how we could improve it so its not as "clunky" as Survivor 45. I made my suggestions on how to improve the format but please share yours!
Survivor...can we stop taking away contestants' votes...please?
Especially after the last episode!
For real. Do it like once a season if you must but this is past ridiculous.
I'm glad someone is pointing out how that one rule completely invalidates the auction. It's crazy to me that so many people are just satisfied to see the auction back. There was no bidding, and the person who lost their vote was decided the minute Jeff drew a rock.
I find it hard to believe they didn't realize this ahead of time that losing a vote is so dramatic people will dump their money immediately. There are any number of ways to encourage careful bidding. Maybe the person who buys the most items gets an advantage? Or hell, make it the immunity challenge and most successful bidder immune. If they want to keep advantages completely out of it, then just make it a normal auction with food. So close and yet so far
I'm happy to see the auction back and that's what I think people get hung up on when you try to criticise the modern auction. It's great it's back but it's not an auction and has its flaws!
If they were dead set on someone losing their vote, they could've attached it as a "bonus" to one item without having to derail the entire auction for it.
That stupid "person with most money loses their vote" tweak completely broke the auction far more than advantages ever did.
Yeah I think the overhanging threat of contestants losing their votes really harmed the outcome of this auction and made it predictable who would win each item.
Im hoping this was just a misstep in them trying to combine the auction with vote losses and twists.
Literally the entire auction is fixed if you remove the vote loss twist here. I personally REALLY like the challenge to decide buying power, but I can see that being a nuisance in the future.
Either way the vote loss needs to go asap.
Yep! Even Survivor UK have hidden advantages in their auction and I think it would be the preferred method IF they really want someone to lose their vote.
We have had a total of 1 tribal council where everyone was able to vote, and that was the tribal that someone literally quit
Brando doesn’t really count for me because Austin had to play an advantage to be able to vote
Honestly I didn't even consider it was that few. I have a video coming up in a few weeks recapping Survivor 45 and I plan to talk about how harming the zero vote aspect is. I'll definitely add in this crazy fact that only 1 tribal had everyone voting (so far)!
Honestly, they should use more extra vote advantages because of this. The goodwill advantage Austin/Drew got was basically an extra vote but only if you lost your vote, JUST BRING BACK EXTRA VOTES, and use the steal vote again. We don’t need all of these fancy advantages. Just idols, extra votes, and even the nullifiers, because blocking idols is a tricky thing to do and it’s fun to watch when it works, which it has. That is all I have to say
The idol nullifier is by far the easiest advantage to use in the game, you just play it against whoever you’re voting for (see Dean in IOI who didn’t even need to know that Janet had an idol) and it only does anything if you already have the majority as the nullifier is worthless to the minority and simply makes the game harder for the players on the bottom
If everyone had spent all their money (say the number on the rock was 12 and the last person with money spent it all on item 11, for example), would no one lose their vote?
I believe so!
This auction almost punished the players who get the middling amounts of money, like think about it what if Jeff drew like 7 and the contestants with the 6 highest sums of money can become safe screwing over the players that aren’t even necessarily the worst performers in the pre-challenge
Bruce could have kept his vote had Jeff drawn any number below 8
Yeah an interesting aspect that was brought up is that Bruce actually is one of the safest people in the auction if he does NOTHING. He gets no bamboo tubes, $0 and guarantees keeps his vote. So it's more so middle/bottom middle scorers that are harmed.
I think I can understand what they were trying to do, in motivating the players to spend their money after what happened years ago.
I'd argue a better way to introduce an advantage or disadvantage would've been to hide it in one of the cash canisters so it's out of the way and the auction can just be fun.
Yeah I think that's fair! Honestly it's good they're responding to the flaws of the auction I just feel they went about it in the wrong way!
How about a mystery item which is lose-vote when revealed.
That's an interesting idea - it would definitely shake up the auction and prevent the stagnant nature of the 45 auction's end game
If you thought that was crap, what about the thing they showed in the preview for the next episode with the tribal immunity where the last tribe of 3 all lose their votes? I hate the tribal immunities once we get to the merge - if it's individual, let it be individual. But that twist coming on Wednesday is absolute garbage.
As you can probably tell from the end of this video I'm really worried about it. Very reminiscent of some of the Australian Survivor twists...and not the good ones.
the auction was okay i think without the vote loss it would have been perfect IMO, i liked the no advantage angle and a scavenger hunt was fun.
I completely agree with this statement!
Production is so close it almost hurts, just let the players bid on food, watching the jubilation and despair is part of the enjoyment.
The final 9 was another example. Just let the players vote, even if they wanted the losers to go to advantage island, have it be just regular advantage island, then the players have to weight the cost of losing immunity/ gaining advantage not just giving the losers a math problem to be able to play the game they signed up for at one of the most critical votes of the season.
So the only thing is I think it's clear Jeff is SCARED of Australian Survivor and I don't see him ever taking inspiration from that show however it is an amazing suggestion to improve this auction.
Why would Jeff be scared of an inferior imitation of his great show?
Probst just seems so insecure about the game possibly being “safe” for a single tribal, the amount of twists just incentivizes players to always stay on good terms with everyone and not pick sides
Okay but Emily's dance is insanely iconic
I agree!
I think they should've introduced more bad items upfront. So then theyre faced with a dilemma of do I wait for something good, and potentially risk my vote?
Yeah I think this current auction is very easy to game so I agree with your response that some new extraneous variables should be added
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To be fair Emily loses her vote at 11 only because she doesn't spend all her money
That's a good point!
I liked this twist and I would rather have it than no auction but I do agree some of the elements of this new auction are very questionable
Agreed!
More Bandit content is always a plus
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Again, the challenge for money was fun and I won't deny that Bruce somehow ending up with the most money by the end of it was funny, but this is a problem. I don't know what modern Survivor's gross love affair is with the idea of contestants losing their votes but it's getting old.
9:08 I forgot I commented that holy crap. I’m there AAAAAAAAAA I’m not wrong tho
You have a point.
It was a good suggestion! Hehe
this auction was a MISS
Yeah it was a bit underwhelming in my opinion
I think your right to a degree but your just very negative about it, it was still fun
It was still fun and the main point I want to make is YES I am happy the auction is back but there are some noticeable flaws holding it back from being perfect in my opinion.
Can I just say why can’t Jeff do anything right In the fans eyes I used to be like u but do u really want survivor to be the same every season survivor doesn’t just cater to u
So we're not allowed to criticize now?
If you praise mediocrity you will continue to get mediocrity, I only critique the show because I want it to be better because I know it can be
I think both statements are true - people are too negative and quick to criticize, AND Survivor sometimes implements rules and twists that are both unfair for the contestants, and not entertaining for the viewer.
I do think Survivor 45 is an improvement over the prior few modern Survivor seasons and I even have a 20 minute video on the channel detailing why. However I do also want to critique elements of the show I find underwhelming and could see production include. This auction being one of them.