Hahaha! Absolutely stupid way of doing the design! @3:52 There’s a much easier way to ensure your tracing is aligned, and also a fast way to rotate the source image. @6:53 Using the transform tool is such a long-winded way. @8:15 Oh, finally you mention that the tube is curved! Totally contradicts your initial statement and all the stuff you explained about camera lens curvature. This also means the Same you traced us not in true proportions 😂 Oops! This is just a CLICKBAIT video to get views. You’re only teaching people the wrong way and the hard way. Very disappointing. (I was given the link to this video by a friend who is just starting to learn AI. I’ve told him not to watch any more of your videos.)
Another good source of vector artwork is from the company annual report or company newsletter. Many reports/newsletters are pdf documents that can be opened in Illustrator.
Take Illustrator, import logo file from internet. Vectorize using command button, decompose, ungroup, delete what not needed. Finished. Takes usually less than 10 minutes altogether. If you have a cutter, copy paste graphic into application. Define size, cut. Over!
I'm pretty sure he's done it with that method usually. or even better, just download .eps logo file from internet. this method is for the sake of the video.
I find the best way to transfer decals is by using painter/masking tape, tape it over the decals. This way it grabs all the letters and maintains the position. Then just line up on the surface you want to stick it on to.
What I don't understand is that if you really want to create the original logo of a brand, you should just use their PDF files which is always available on their site. Special bikes has their special PDF most of the time. I always do this way. All the ratios are perfect. You can work with illustrator directly from PDF files so nothing to edit with the ready vectorgraphic files. After the logos are ready and saved I find out their 99.9% accurate measurement from the ratio of the frame. As you know that most of the bottle cage bolt holes are 65.5mm in distance from each other. This is a standard. So, from this details you can find out the width of the decals you need, and so the normal, complete measurement too. Just a tip btw. Your paintjob is really lovely.
kangsterizer Well. I would never do so. For high quality and really astonising looking painting results you really need a proper masking film for a proper cutting mashine and yes, they're pricy so you have to use a company for this and they'll ask for insane prices.
1st I would do, is to find a 2D image of the logo, the highest possible resolution, and then trace it. Only in case I can't find it, I would start doing such an aproximation of an original logotype. By the way, change the layer colour in order to see where the path goes. Good Tutorial!!!
easiest is scan logo from any official document if you haven't got official vector logo (or downloaded from other source) :-) Fotoshooting is last my option if I must get vector some kind of exotic brand :-)
@Blake Antcliff ... In a reproduction, to overcome dimension 'squeezing', I note real-life dimensions using a vernier caliper so I can eradicate perspective effects which makes the image appear 'stretched' towards the edges of the image (not due to lens distortion). You can then both reproduce the correct proportions _and_ employ original measurements rather than scaling up or down.
Hi, can you make a file for me? I have a decal on my bike I want to reapply but can't get the source file because the original file is on a computer which is no longer available
I've just done this at home. I intend on applying the decal to the frame once painted . But my question is this, can i use the Montana varnish gloss spray to top coat the vinyl decals i have done?
Just to say i did try and use the montana varnish but it wasn't that great. Despite using two cans the protection wasn't great and the paint has started to chip. I would recommend trying a 2k clear coat lacquer like the video. Also when buying the vinyl get the thin type. I ordered the logos of ebay and also did one myself but the one i did myself was a much thicker vinyl and it has started coming off. The logos ordered through ebay has stayed on even without protection.
@@KickTurner I couldn't find the logo anywhere so ended up emailing Jamis (bike manufacturer) and they sent me the svg files directly for free. My wife has a vynal cutting machine so did it myself. Manufactors are more than happy most of the time to provide the logo, just email their support team.
how do you register the camera lens with the image you print so that it overlaps perfectly with the bike? Do you you a 50mm lens at a specific distance? Don't you need some software or calculations to get the right size for the decal?
great videos! I'm working in change the style of one of my bikes, I will make BREAST CANCER AWARENESS, , in honor of My Wife, your videos of painting bikes are helping me a lot with this project, I'm now looking for make the stencil decals and I have questions about the type of vinyl, is removable vinyl? I have to find someone for make the decals, but I would like to know what type of vinyl have to use for make it right, thank you very much! NEVER GIVE UP
Well done, Martin! Would you mind sharing the brand/type of masking film you prefer for most of your logo painting? I've noticed you use a translucent gray film (I understand availability may be different here in the US). Thanks!
Judging from his other videos, he sticks a masking tape on top of the negative sticker, peels the back of the sticker and sticks it to the frame, the removes the masking tape (it doesn't hold nearly as strong as the vinyl sticker glue).
i recently had to make decals for a old french bike , a velosolex , so i find a similar font and make it to a path to send it to the cuter , not as the original but close engnof nobudy will notice the differance anyway ,
Your local marketing company should be able to make them for you cheaper, or you might want to ask around in card crafting communities as some there have adopted digital designing and cnc cutters what far as i'm aware can also cut vinyl and probably wont ask much for printing templates. Those machines are also relative cheap, though work area is smaller than commercial ones. If you are using them as paint templates cheapest stuff on local market should work. Or you can ask off cuts from local marketing company. You might get them for free and just free hand something simple like lettering.
Die gezeigte Methode ist leider viel zu umständlich und nur geeignet für Decals, die vollständig auf einer Seite eines Rohres zu sehen sind. Bei allen gerundeten Stellen kommt man so leider nicht weiter. Ich habe mir in diesen Fällen eine 3D-Papierschablone von der betreffenden Stelle gemacht, diese flach auf einen Scanner gelegt und dann in Illustrator die gewünschte Grafik erstellt. Nach Ausdruck und Cutting, passen diese Aufkleber perfekt. Noch ein Tipp zum Thema Lens Distortion: Aufnahme mit großem Abstand, Stativ und Zoom-Objektiv verringert die Verzerrungen an den Rändern deutlich. Noch eine wichtige Sache, die nicht erwähnt wurde: Beim Fotografieren muss unbedingt ein Maß/Zollstock mitaufgenommen werden, denn sonst erstellt man unter Umständen ein Logo, dessen Maße nicht auf den Rahmen passen. Eine Pixel-Auflösung von 300dpi ist KEIN reales Längenmaß, beim Platzieren des Fotos in Illustrator kann es passieren, dass es nicht mehr die Originalgröße hat!
Um Gottes Willen!!! Find the company logo on the internet, and use a software to smooth the edges and transform into a vector image! Jesus! What is this nonsense about taking a photo from a round tube, messing with barrel distortion of a lens, and all these complicated manipulations... all that to end up with an inaccurate result in the end anyways!
@@Harvey_Birdman_AAL Search for the proper, undistorted logo/decals. Most big brands/models such as the S-Works shown are readily available online. Failing that, have an illustrator redraw them for you.
I don't get what you are saying. Beside that you wan't to show off. If you were in an accident with a custom painted frame you can paint it the same color as before.
What not using a low definition logo. And make it high by copying it on PhotoShop or Gimp. Like it you will not have distortion. And you will have your 300dpi. You make you more difficult for nothing but pain !
You can upsize something but you can't create resolution - two very different things. I'd actually suggest looking for the logo online instead. Most logos are already drawn in vector format and won't have the distortion from wrapping around the frame!
MileHighSi he's not suggesting that upscaling makes it have higher resolution. He's saying that you might as well use pics from the net since you're gonna trace it anyway.
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Hahaha! Absolutely stupid way of doing the design! @3:52 There’s a much easier way to ensure your tracing is aligned, and also a fast way to rotate the source image. @6:53 Using the transform tool is such a long-winded way. @8:15 Oh, finally you mention that the tube is curved! Totally contradicts your initial statement and all the stuff you explained about camera lens curvature. This also means the Same you traced us not in true proportions 😂 Oops! This is just a CLICKBAIT video to get views. You’re only teaching people the wrong way and the hard way. Very disappointing. (I was given the link to this video by a friend who is just starting to learn AI. I’ve told him not to watch any more of your videos.)
tf is wrong with u
You're a master at verbal diarrhoea. Laughing and not providing constructive feedback, makes you sound like the idiot you look like.
Can someone give Reagan the basecap hero a hug? His mommy never did.
shut up...
I know better ways but um im not gonna share because...... im sure we also wouldnt know who this guys girlfriend is cause she goes to another school
Another good source of vector artwork is from the company annual report or company newsletter. Many reports/newsletters are pdf documents that can be opened in Illustrator.
Take Illustrator, import logo file from internet. Vectorize using command button, decompose, ungroup, delete what not needed. Finished. Takes usually less than 10 minutes altogether. If you have a cutter, copy paste graphic into application. Define size, cut. Over!
I'm pretty sure he's done it with that method usually. or even better, just download .eps logo file from internet. this method is for the sake of the video.
This method is for your own costum logo.
Best demonstration I have seen for using pen tool for lettering. I am duplicating vintage bike decals for my 1985 Schwinn Voyageur rebuild. Thanks!
I find the best way to transfer decals is by using painter/masking tape, tape it over the decals.
This way it grabs all the letters and maintains the position. Then just line up on the surface you want to stick it on to.
Deutscher Akzent is so geil😂👌🏼 hört sich bei mir genauso an
Trouble is the letters are curved round the frame and so you are not getting the true height of the letters (or dimensions really)
Thank you so much been searching for hours how to do this
Thank you for posting this information. You do great work and I'm glad to see you are back posting videos again.
Thank you for the detailed explanation.. Awesome work
What cutter are you using and where can I get one????
what printer?
Is it only me that i like the way he talks?
What kind of vinyl tape do you use?
great video, I have been struggling to find a c orrect sized logo / mask for my Felt AR5 .... I am going to give this method a try ... thanks Martin
What I don't understand is that if you really want to create the original logo of a brand, you should just use their PDF files which is always available on their site. Special bikes has their special PDF most of the time. I always do this way. All the ratios are perfect. You can work with illustrator directly from PDF files so nothing to edit with the ready vectorgraphic files.
After the logos are ready and saved I find out their 99.9% accurate measurement from the ratio of the frame. As you know that most of the bottle cage bolt holes are 65.5mm in distance from each other. This is a standard. So, from this details you can find out the width of the decals you need, and so the normal, complete measurement too. Just a tip btw. Your paintjob is really lovely.
kangsterizer Well. I would never do so. For high quality and really astonising looking painting results you really need a proper masking film for a proper cutting mashine and yes, they're pricy so you have to use a company for this and they'll ask for insane prices.
I don't seem to be able to find the logos for my 1972 Raleigh LTD-SC bicycle off of the company website as you suggest are "always" available.
Would a Sharpie work instead?
1st I would do, is to find a 2D image of the logo, the highest possible resolution, and then trace it. Only in case I can't find it, I would start doing such an aproximation of an original logotype. By the way, change the layer colour in order to see where the path goes. Good Tutorial!!!
@ANDY CRSM better on Ai
easiest is scan logo from any official document if you haven't got official vector logo (or downloaded from other source) :-) Fotoshooting is last my option if I must get vector some kind of exotic brand :-)
Surely the top and bottom edges of the lettering need to be stretched slightly, as on a photo it will appear narrower due to the frame curve ?
@Blake Antcliff ... In a reproduction, to overcome dimension 'squeezing', I note real-life dimensions using a vernier caliper so I can eradicate perspective effects which makes the image appear 'stretched' towards the edges of the image (not due to lens distortion). You can then both reproduce the correct proportions _and_ employ original measurements rather than scaling up or down.
Blake Antcliff no 8:10
I think taking a picture of a bike frame isn’t the best source for a logo. The video just feels wrong all together to me.
Guys, easiest. Easiest is jus go goggle and search for the logo.......... search for Vector,eps or svg file format.
yeah or buy stickers of ebay. to be fair he does custom designs too, you need the machine for that.
Another quality content. Hope to have of this bikes.
Hi, can you make a file for me? I have a decal on my bike I want to reapply but can't get the source file because the original file is on a computer which is no longer available
valeu pela dica! Parabéns
You need an extra layer to aply the negative on the frame and then remove this extra layer before painting. How is it done?
Please watch all my paining videos. They show detailed how it`s done.
Where can I order custom decals online?
Great video, thank you!!
Kann man die decal Vorlagen bzw. nicht einfach beim Hersteller ordern?
Cool!! Can you put a sticker on a frame and then clear coat on top?? I'm wondering if the sticker would be too thick?
Is it possible to purchase these kind of decals somewhere? The once which is removed after you have painted over them?
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Awesome video thanks for making it.
What app did u use?
thankyou so much for this idea sir
How did he know to scale the decal so it covers the one on his bike already
by measuring the original on the bike
I cut one out of paper with the machine first just to see the proper size.
Would have like to see how you transfer the decal to the frame
search for "vinyl application tape" here on youtube and you'll find plenty of info.
So is it going to be wash-proof?
Excellent video, helped me a lot with AI!
What would be the better font for s-works template if i used adobe photoshop?
Just take a piture and retrace the letters or use the colour selection tool.
What about people that don't have that access and etc..would putting a vinyl sticker down then clear coating work??
I use no vinyl under clear because it causes easy peeling of the clear.
mmm and logo cannondale f1000 1997? two color... how made it?
I've just done this at home. I intend on applying the decal to the frame once painted . But my question is this, can i use the Montana varnish gloss spray to top coat the vinyl decals i have done?
did you do this? how'd it go. i have the same question...
Just to say i did try and use the montana varnish but it wasn't that great. Despite using two cans the protection wasn't great and the paint has started to chip. I would recommend trying a 2k clear coat lacquer like the video. Also when buying the vinyl get the thin type. I ordered the logos of ebay and also did one myself but the one i did myself was a much thicker vinyl and it has started coming off. The logos ordered through ebay has stayed on even without protection.
@@emanmedia02do u recall who the seller u bought logos from on eBay was??
@@KickTurner I couldn't find the logo anywhere so ended up emailing Jamis (bike manufacturer) and they sent me the svg files directly for free. My wife has a vynal cutting machine so did it myself. Manufactors are more than happy most of the time to provide the logo, just email their support team.
What kind of vinil You use?
Thanks, that is adhesive vinyl?
how do you register the camera lens with the image you print so that it overlaps perfectly with the bike? Do you you a 50mm lens at a specific distance? Don't you need some software or calculations to get the right size for the decal?
Use Illustrator, CorelDraw or a similar program to work in vectors and at scale
i need decals for a Trek 5200 White frame Lance Armstrong era
where can i buy some ?
Thank you for help :)
How do you transfer the decals to the surface ? One letter at a time ?
Nope. Use transfer paper.
Very nice video
Nice indeed.
Awesome!
great videos! I'm working in change the style of one of my bikes, I will make BREAST CANCER AWARENESS, , in honor of My Wife, your videos of painting bikes are helping me a lot with this project, I'm now looking for make the stencil decals and I have questions about the type of vinyl,
is removable vinyl?
I have to find someone for make the decals, but I would like to know what type of vinyl have to use for make it right, thank you very much!
NEVER GIVE UP
Thank you for your help.
Hallo!
Tolle kanal. Sehr gute und hilfsreiche videos. Kann ich bei euch sticker drucken lassen wenn ich vector pdf schike? Ware das möglich?
No not possible.
@@ETOE bad man 1
It`s spelled BATMAN
Well done, Martin! Would you mind sharing the brand/type of masking film you prefer for most of your logo painting? I've noticed you use a translucent gray film (I understand availability may be different here in the US). Thanks!
Please find the links in the description.
Thanks. I apologize for missing those the first time...
What sign cutter are you using?
Looks like a Roland Camm-1 GS-24. It's a 24" cutter plotter.
How do you transfer the mask to the frame to spray the paint?
Judging from his other videos, he sticks a masking tape on top of the negative sticker, peels the back of the sticker and sticks it to the frame, the removes the masking tape (it doesn't hold nearly as strong as the vinyl sticker glue).
I use a negative mask.
7:20 "Every letter same procedure" ... ist es schon Sylvester?
bike manufacture shoud have on the site downbeat file with path or images of stikers only , so can get original stickers for it ,
i recently had to make decals for a old french bike , a velosolex , so i find a similar font and make it to a path to send it to the cuter , not as the original but close engnof nobudy will notice the differance anyway ,
Any chance you wanna sell me decals for an 18 sworks Enduro?
Which app did u used
CS
clear coat wont melt this vinyl?
you paint the frame the color you want the branding, apply vinyls, paint, remove vinyls clear coat
?
I do not apply clearcoat over vinyl. I use negative masks and spray the logo direct on the frame. So the logo is made of color not of a vinyl tape.
What is paper for print?
printable vinyl
Pixels don't stretch!
Do you offer these for sale?
Your local marketing company should be able to make them for you cheaper, or you might want to ask around in card crafting communities as some there have adopted digital designing and cnc cutters what far as i'm aware can also cut vinyl and probably wont ask much for printing templates. Those machines are also relative cheap, though work area is smaller than commercial ones. If you are using them as paint templates cheapest stuff on local market should work. Or you can ask off cuts from local marketing company. You might get them for free and just free hand something simple like lettering.
Wow thats so nice:D May I ask s-works decal size(width and height), that u made, please?
Depends on frame as mentioned in the video.
ETOE mine is venge vias 54cm. U only said width about 30cm, I really want to know height please :)
Thanx
This is way too complicated. Can I hire you to make me a decal instead?
Die gezeigte Methode ist leider viel zu umständlich und nur geeignet für Decals, die vollständig auf einer Seite eines Rohres zu sehen sind. Bei allen gerundeten Stellen kommt man so leider nicht weiter. Ich habe mir in diesen Fällen eine 3D-Papierschablone von der betreffenden Stelle gemacht, diese flach auf einen Scanner gelegt und dann in Illustrator die gewünschte Grafik erstellt. Nach Ausdruck und Cutting, passen diese Aufkleber perfekt.
Noch ein Tipp zum Thema Lens Distortion: Aufnahme mit großem Abstand, Stativ und Zoom-Objektiv verringert die Verzerrungen an den Rändern deutlich.
Noch eine wichtige Sache, die nicht erwähnt wurde: Beim Fotografieren muss unbedingt ein Maß/Zollstock mitaufgenommen werden, denn sonst erstellt man unter Umständen ein Logo, dessen Maße nicht auf den Rahmen passen. Eine Pixel-Auflösung von 300dpi ist KEIN reales Längenmaß, beim Platzieren des Fotos in Illustrator kann es passieren, dass es nicht mehr die Originalgröße hat!
Du bist Deutsch!
Why there are not stores that deal with this kind of things?
Makes no sense. People don't pay enough to run a store.
Can i use paint ?
Not really, you have to use a program that can save vector files as Adobe Illustrator. A free alternative is Inkscape
What is program name
Adobe Illustrator
Good to make fake copy bikes
Um Gottes Willen!!! Find the company logo on the internet, and use a software to smooth the edges and transform into a vector image! Jesus! What is this nonsense about taking a photo from a round tube, messing with barrel distortion of a lens, and all these complicated manipulations... all that to end up with an inaccurate result in the end anyways!
This guy looks like the old Peter Parker
Tobey Maguire, Tom Holland, Andrew Garfield or any of the numerous graphic novel adaptations of the same character?
@@mihpop9733 Tobey
OMG. You did not correct for the round tube the logo was on. Putting this new logo on a tube again will look terrible.
My thoughts exactly.
Can you please submit a resource that explains how to correct the lettering from the round tube/round surface? Or give advice on this?
@@Harvey_Birdman_AAL Search for the proper, undistorted logo/decals. Most big brands/models such as the S-Works shown are readily available online. Failing that, have an illustrator redraw them for you.
MileHighSi
Oh, So you want to Cheat. Ha
@@Sms8668 I'm not sure what you mean..?
I don't get why you would place a company logo on YOUR custom bike. Such nonsense.
tm i agree 100 percent.
He's just showing you as an example for the tutorial video
I don't get what you are saying. Beside that you wan't to show off. If you were in an accident with a custom painted frame you can paint it the same color as before.
Some people are proud of their bike's branding. If I had a Ferrari custom painted I'd still want the Ferrari logos.
What not using a low definition logo. And make it high by copying it on PhotoShop or Gimp.
Like it you will not have distortion. And you will have your 300dpi.
You make you more difficult for nothing but pain !
the brand logo for the down tube may be easy, but on a bike there's tons of small logos that could be difficult to find these images
That’s true.
You can upsize something but you can't create resolution - two very different things. I'd actually suggest looking for the logo online instead. Most logos are already drawn in vector format and won't have the distortion from wrapping around the frame!
MileHighSi he's not suggesting that upscaling makes it have higher resolution. He's saying that you might as well use pics from the net since you're gonna trace it anyway.
illustrator is like adobe flash
Download the logos.
Nah absolutely wrong with all.
what cutting mashine you using to cut this stencils ?
Damian Swarlik hi it's Roland
what model exactly?
It's ROland GX-24. But u can use any cutter for this job. I use Mimaki CG130 SRIII
What vinyl did you use please?
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What applications??
Illustriator
Application decal??