I’d say it’s harder to get big as just a streamer. Mainly just because twitches recommended system is terrible. If not non existent. Ya gotta have a mix.
@@A7RA3L.Eh, RUclips has pretty interesting algorithm at times. As long as your video is interesting or align with someone else interest it could end up in someone's home page. I got recommended to videos with only 100-200 ish views ever since a month or two ago, they are mostly related to what I've been watching recently, though that makes me wonder did they change how algorithm works now since a year or two ago I never got videos or stream with below 1000 views, but nowadays it's pretty common occurence.
@@A7RA3L. I think it's easier to grow on RUclips to be honest you just have to post quality content and follow the trend a little and be consistent . People are reaching 60 to 500 views every day plenty of of small youtube grow relatively quick.. I am discovering small RUclipsrs everyday depending on the topic i search. i have been watching twitch recently and Twitch recommendation is really not good. On Twitch if you get 20- to 50 people watching constantly its actually really good because a lot streamers of cannot reach that. 100- 500 you are probably a small start on Twitch. Also, regarding the raiding concept I dont know if it's really effective.
Streaming is 100% more difficult once you start streaming you realize how entertaining you actually are without post editing I say build an audience on RUclips then bring them to twitch
well youtubers can stream on youtube… 🤯 also, they edit their videos in case they did something they thought was embarrassing. not because they think they aren’t entertaining 💀
@@MadaraUchiha-.._ Ofc people edit and cut their content to make it more appealing, entertaining and funny. E.g Shorts and why they work so well for content creators. They are highlights. A live stream is a flow not a highlight. I would compare RUclips and Twitch with Acting a script and Improvising. Kinda similar with a lot of overlap but also different specialties make them shine.
I think it depends on content that you do. Best advice is do something that you enjoy watching and get inspiration on it. There os no need to get complicated about other stuff like editing, software etc. Just upload content that you are willing to share and you know everyone can enjoy. Treat it like something that you can share to a family member or friends. And if it goes viral, then you have idea and foundation to build up your channel. Regardless if you stream and posting yt videos.
I'm a new streamer. Definitely a lot involved in streaming. To upload a video a week on YT I can do the editing anytime in the week from footage but with streaming you have to YT and keep to your live schedule. its wild sometimes. Let alone handling all the plugins and socials on top.
I’d probably go streamer here as coming from experience it can be difficult to be able to do things like count sub count or any of that stuff especially if you stream on console also for small streamers it’s harder be able to manage school/work having a nice life for example spending time with family and streaming 5+ hours a day this is my opinion if you don’t agree I apologize please don’t hate
Twitch is prob harder, u have to be on all the time, it’s not like u can edit what u do or say out, so u always have to keep it in the back of ur mind. Yt on the other hand if ur recording n u say sum fucked up shit u can edit it out. Just my opinion btw
RUclipsrs: - Film content (vlog, games, review, reaction, challenge, news update etc.) - Edit in or out moments you want: make it monetizable - Edit how long you want the video to be - Able to choose music before uploading: use non copyright music or you have rights to - demonetized video can be re-edited and reuploaded - Can only block troll comments: Blacklist certain words or phrases in comments - Could hire Camera crew, editor, manager, etc. Twitch streamers: - Livestreams (Just Chatting, Games, Podcast, ASMR, etc.) - Livestream however long you want/can stay up - Pay attention to chat and donations - Constantly have to think before speaking - Unable to control “sudden moments” - Watch out for copyright music: mute stream - End stream before being taken down - Able to ban obnoxious viewers - Hire Moderators Similarities: - Same rules and guidelines - 3 strikes, You’re out! - Will try to take down ban creator’s alt acc’s - Sponsors and Ads: use premium to get rid of ads - Viewers, subscribers and donators - Hire people for extra help
There maybe more but I just listed some things off the top of my head. I respect all content creators who are able appease and entertain this horrid wasteland called the internet🫡
streaming is way harder to get big in. youtube you can get lucky and have 1 video just pop tf off to start your career. streaming you don't just have 1 stream just pop off. as for the content aspect, youtube is way harder if you're doing it solo. all the editing and post-production stuff you need to do in order to make it appealing to the average viewer is much harder than hitting the go live button and just sending it.
I genuinely prefer streaming, but that’s just because I hate editing, I don’t really care if I get big while streaming, but I’d love to get up to 1000 average views per stream in like a year or two
both are difficult to make it far but if you are only doing one of them twitch is miles harder there isn’t anyway for people to find your streams unless they are scrolling all the way down to the bottom of the page but if you do both your streams are your footage then you just edit the parts you want and the youtube can help boost your twitch
Beautiful video. I thought it was a joke because of the title, but instead it was a serious, honest take on the feeling of starting out with no following yet putting in all this endless effort. Thanks for making this. I guess i gotta stream until mr beast sees me LOL.
depends. If you can think fast. Stream. If you like setting things up. Make videos. That's a generalization but there's alot of factors into it. In the end "Effort x 1(undefined luck) = benefits."
I do it all and still barely get followers other than tik Tok and shorts. I guess I need better video editing and planning. After a few years it's exhausting.
Depends entirely on the content. Some youtube channels makes insane contents that requires many hours or days just to produce. Production value in terms of recording a video, for me, is a lot harder than to sit on a stream and entertain your audience live, as you have feedbacks to rely on. But for youtube videos, you don't have that, you can only know if it's good or bad, after you finish producing, which could either be worth it, or perform very poorly. Yeah sure, you can take breaks, but that's only if you already have a very enstablished viewerbase, which will ultimately wait for your videos, as thay's normally how youtube ecosystem works. I get that it's also hard to maintain viewership as a streamer, let alone, raising it. But in term of production and all, being a youtuber will probably take more from you. Although, I highly doubt it's that much difference overall in general, because there's pros an cons for both, and it depends entirely on you for which you can manage better.
Probably depends on the type of person you are. RUclips is more for people that like being able to edit and be very deliberate with what they share. Twitch is for folks that just wanna vibe and don't care too much about putting themselves out there 100%. Both are cool in their own way.
RUclips is way harder, streamers sit and play a game for a few hours, RUclipsrs gotta record the game (may take a few hours) then they have to edit (by default takes longer than the video took to record) then they have to upload the video which can also take forever. RUclips is way more time consuming and challenging.
They’re both hard. RUclips you have to edit; making thumbnail, come up with the idea and all that crap before dropping the video. Twitch is easy in the sense you just go live but you do it for hours and for most people it’s to 0-3 viewers. I basically streamed on twitch for 7 years for Pennies to the dollar.
Dunno most streameres I know are mostly reaction content and honestly I don't see the appeal for nost of them, some do put the work but leaving those and the amurath types aside I don't know any other types of streamers.
Personally, streaming is harder for me, because my schedule isn't consistent, but I can make uploads pretty consistent throughout the week. Streaming is so horrible difficult to get an audience.
Well, its all came down to talent. Some people has talent for making good video, while some people has talent in making impromptu entertainmen, and neither one is straight up harder than the other
Im literally just starting out my anxiety is bad because i just wanna be a good streamer and just to make good videos. Like i dont wanna be perfect at all, just wanna do what i love i just wanna show myself off ya know. 😂
Actually both are easy when u are at the top... if you are big u open ur stream any time, do anything, and thousands will watch u, donate, etc... the hardest part on youtube is editing the video itself, but when u are big and make a good income already, u can just hire editors, thumbmakers, etc to make the hard part for u... but I agree that being entertaining for hours on a stream everyday is hard... but if u are xqc for example is easy u can just chill watch videos and play without saying a word If u don't want and millions of dollars will be in ur bank account 😅
I find it easier to be a streamer than a youtuber, i dont even post on youtube at all, i just started twitch like a week ago and already have 13 followers, So far i just enjoy twitch more than youtube
I really dislike that this is even a conversation and a distraction from young people having traditional career ambitions. I understand why it's a conversation, but for me, the majority of people who are successful Streamers and RUclipsrs are talented enough to win auditions to work in TV or Film. They just choose to Stream or post to RUclips because they make more money that way of course. We have a society of young people who think almost any of them can be successful at streaming or post to RUclips and that is simply not the case.
the hard part is trying to actually be a good entertaining streamer for hours while there's only 2 people watching (wich is yourself and 1 bot) and making 0 income or progress 😕😕
i need help to become a better yter, plus i only have my phone for doing my whole yt channel and i don’t have any source of income due to being denied from 7 job places
Idk man. It is soooo draining being a streamer. Reason being is you don’t grow on twitch without grinding your bum off on every platform to bring in viewers and THEN have to entertain people on live feed and not have any issues with quality, you have to keep talking, you have to have incentives. Nice thing about RUclips is you can make cuts. I love sitting back after streams and making the cuts in stream vods cuz it’s so much easier. RUclips you can also add memes and editing to make your content more interesting whereas your streams are live and entertainment depends on if the streamer is.. entertaining. And for girls if you don’t show your body and use it for views you have to work that much harder cuz ppl who want to want gameplay go to men and the ones there to watch females go to the stripped ones. You have to work hard to find genuine people and build a genuine audience. Oh and if you’re not single you’re screwed cuz everyone wants to date you man or woman. Though I’ve heard it’s not really an issue with guys but idk just trying to be equal about things.
Working class Streamers and RUclipsrs are a thing now .? I think the lamest “creators “ are the ones that need to do the most , they kinda have to just to stay relevant . 💅
No offense to any of these guys but I have no idea who any of these guys are. Makes me think of those youtubers or twitch streamers that have millions of followers/subscribers and can't even get 5k live views on their streams. The only one I've been able to see get 200k views consistently is Dr.Disrespect. Though I haven't seen his streams in a while. So I'll check back and see.
Neuro surgeon would be 2 life harder if you guys consider REAL actual job that need skill and obviously the word that is not really common these days ‘SCHOOL’
I’d say it’s harder to get big as just a streamer. Mainly just because twitches recommended system is terrible. If not non existent. Ya gotta have a mix.
Abuse the tag system, be a girl missing half her clothes, or be a vtube coom baiter
I have a account any words of wisdom?
RUclips is worse because if you hit it big, here come 10000 tik tok kids recreating your entire personality and life
@@A7RA3L.Eh, RUclips has pretty interesting algorithm at times. As long as your video is interesting or align with someone else interest it could end up in someone's home page.
I got recommended to videos with only 100-200 ish views ever since a month or two ago, they are mostly related to what I've been watching recently, though that makes me wonder did they change how algorithm works now since a year or two ago I never got videos or stream with below 1000 views, but nowadays it's pretty common occurence.
@@A7RA3L. I think it's easier to grow on RUclips to be honest you just have to post quality content and follow the trend a little and be consistent . People are reaching 60 to 500 views every day plenty of of small youtube grow relatively quick.. I am discovering small RUclipsrs everyday depending on the topic i search.
i have been watching twitch recently and Twitch recommendation is really not good. On Twitch if you get 20- to 50 people watching constantly its actually really good because a lot streamers of cannot reach that. 100- 500 you are probably a small start on Twitch. Also, regarding the raiding concept I dont know if it's really effective.
Be a youtuber before streaming bc that way you have a built in audience.
Jesus loves u man
@@VryformalAmen
@@Vryformal👍
sorry to comment on this but the first reply destroyed the main comment opening topic. I want to ask,why?
@@VryformalAmen
I’ve been streaming since 2015 and almost at 900. It is for sure a grind but I’m not stopping. I have a story to tell when I’m on top!
I have a twitch and I upload to your i have 49 follows on twitch and 47 subs on RUclips
Bro I'm just streaming for fun and the most I have in my youtube streams are just 10 views or something😂😂😂
The most views I had was when I had a Minecraft Drunk stream I swear I'm never going drunk again on stream because of this 😂😂😂
@@shadowfox2635I got 120 subscribers because of AMVs I swear these AMVs I Made are half assed
Change your name lol
Streaming is 100% more difficult once you start streaming you realize how entertaining you actually are without post editing I say build an audience on RUclips then bring them to twitch
they are just different beasts, I think RUclipsrs and streamers just don't understand that they don't make the same content at all.
well youtubers can stream on youtube… 🤯
also, they edit their videos in case they did something they thought was embarrassing. not because they think they aren’t entertaining 💀
@@MadaraUchiha-.._ Ofc people edit and cut their content to make it more appealing, entertaining and funny. E.g Shorts and why they work so well for content creators. They are highlights. A live stream is a flow not a highlight. I would compare RUclips and Twitch with Acting a script and Improvising. Kinda similar with a lot of overlap but also different specialties make them shine.
You can literally just play a game and stream it vs playing the same game for the same amount of time but spending 8 to 10 hours editing it a good way
I think it depends on content that you do. Best advice is do something that you enjoy watching and get inspiration on it. There os no need to get complicated about other stuff like editing, software etc. Just upload content that you are willing to share and you know everyone can enjoy. Treat it like something that you can share to a family member or friends. And if it goes viral, then you have idea and foundation to build up your channel. Regardless if you stream and posting yt videos.
Everything is a grind and the important part is ensuring you don't give up on any dream you have.
I'm a new streamer.
Definitely a lot involved in streaming.
To upload a video a week on YT I can do the editing anytime in the week from footage but with streaming you have to YT and keep to your live schedule. its wild sometimes.
Let alone handling all the plugins and socials on top.
Most relatable media I've ever watched, great inspiration. Love you man for that
Hey 👋
Are you a RUclipsr?
Everything is hard we just have to choose oure hard
I'm hard
I’d probably go streamer here as coming from experience it can be difficult to be able to do things like count sub count or any of that stuff especially if you stream on console also for small streamers it’s harder be able to manage school/work having a nice life for example spending time with family and streaming 5+ hours a day this is my opinion if you don’t agree I apologize please don’t hate
Twitch is prob harder, u have to be on all the time, it’s not like u can edit what u do or say out, so u always have to keep it in the back of ur mind. Yt on the other hand if ur recording n u say sum fucked up shit u can edit it out. Just my opinion btw
Agreed with streaming, if you don’t stream you don’t make subs,donos, or bits. YT has more passive income potential.
If bothvare caught there will always be backlogs and someone willing enough to find it be it on twich or yt.
RUclipsrs:
- Film content (vlog, games, review, reaction, challenge, news update etc.)
- Edit in or out moments you want: make it monetizable
- Edit how long you want the video to be
- Able to choose music before uploading: use non copyright music or you have rights to
- demonetized video can be re-edited and reuploaded
- Can only block troll comments: Blacklist certain words or phrases in comments
- Could hire Camera crew, editor, manager, etc.
Twitch streamers:
- Livestreams (Just Chatting, Games, Podcast, ASMR, etc.)
- Livestream however long you want/can stay up
- Pay attention to chat and donations
- Constantly have to think before speaking
- Unable to control “sudden moments”
- Watch out for copyright music: mute stream
- End stream before being taken down
- Able to ban obnoxious viewers
- Hire Moderators
Similarities:
- Same rules and guidelines
- 3 strikes, You’re out!
- Will try to take down ban creator’s alt acc’s
- Sponsors and Ads: use premium to get rid of ads
- Viewers, subscribers and donators
- Hire people for extra help
There maybe more but I just listed some things off the top of my head.
I respect all content creators who are able appease and entertain this horrid wasteland called the internet🫡
YT seems much better and profitable if you do it right
streaming is way harder to get big in. youtube you can get lucky and have 1 video just pop tf off to start your career. streaming you don't just have 1 stream just pop off. as for the content aspect, youtube is way harder if you're doing it solo. all the editing and post-production stuff you need to do in order to make it appealing to the average viewer is much harder than hitting the go live button and just sending it.
I like that you didnt just steal the clip you put some good edits and showed the original creators @ big respect
Glad your growing day by day!! I hope to get big on streaming like you one day..
I genuinely prefer streaming, but that’s just because I hate editing, I don’t really care if I get big while streaming, but I’d love to get up to 1000 average views per stream in like a year or two
both are difficult to make it far but if you are only doing one of them twitch is miles harder there isn’t anyway for people to find your streams unless they are scrolling all the way down to the bottom of the page but if you do both your streams are your footage then you just edit the parts you want and the youtube can help boost your twitch
i just started streaming a couple weeks ago and it seems impossible to grow, it seems like in order to get noticed you already have to be popular.
I saw Jerma chillin w Ludwig. Best streamer duo.
Beautiful video. I thought it was a joke because of the title, but instead it was a serious, honest take on the feeling of starting out with no following yet putting in all this endless effort. Thanks for making this. I guess i gotta stream until mr beast sees me LOL.
depends. If you can think fast. Stream. If you like setting things up. Make videos. That's a generalization but there's alot of factors into it. In the end "Effort x 1(undefined luck) = benefits."
I do both, which in my opinion is the best because then your followers from RUclips, Tiktok etc. Can come over to your Twitch
I do it all and still barely get followers other than tik Tok and shorts. I guess I need better video editing and planning. After a few years it's exhausting.
When you do both 💀😭👍🏻
Depends entirely on the content. Some youtube channels makes insane contents that requires many hours or days just to produce. Production value in terms of recording a video, for me, is a lot harder than to sit on a stream and entertain your audience live, as you have feedbacks to rely on. But for youtube videos, you don't have that, you can only know if it's good or bad, after you finish producing, which could either be worth it, or perform very poorly. Yeah sure, you can take breaks, but that's only if you already have a very enstablished viewerbase, which will ultimately wait for your videos, as thay's normally how youtube ecosystem works. I get that it's also hard to maintain viewership as a streamer, let alone, raising it. But in term of production and all, being a youtuber will probably take more from you. Although, I highly doubt it's that much difference overall in general, because there's pros an cons for both, and it depends entirely on you for which you can manage better.
Probably depends on the type of person you are. RUclips is more for people that like being able to edit and be very deliberate with what they share. Twitch is for folks that just wanna vibe and don't care too much about putting themselves out there 100%. Both are cool in their own way.
Streaming is hard for sure i rather upload videos most of the time
RUclips is way harder, streamers sit and play a game for a few hours, RUclipsrs gotta record the game (may take a few hours) then they have to edit (by default takes longer than the video took to record) then they have to upload the video which can also take forever. RUclips is way more time consuming and challenging.
They’re both hard. RUclips you have to edit; making thumbnail, come up with the idea and all that crap before dropping the video. Twitch is easy in the sense you just go live but you do it for hours and for most people it’s to 0-3 viewers. I basically streamed on twitch for 7 years for Pennies to the dollar.
It’s more like different for everybody not one is better than the other it just depends on your personality and what you do and how you go about it
That's why u hire editors and thumbmakers to make the hard part for u ez clap stonks
People will say twitch is harder because the grind there is visible, you don't see the hours upon hours of editing that people do for RUclips
People put more effort into RUclips. There's no reason a similar production value can't cone to streaming, instead it's just a bloke playing games
Live streaming good content is much harder than edited videos imo
Bro it’s Grant!!!!
Garnt, pls don’t hurt me
Be careful next time or else...
Grantr
Dunno most streameres I know are mostly reaction content and honestly I don't see the appeal for nost of them, some do put the work but leaving those and the amurath types aside I don't know any other types of streamers.
As someone whos been trying to stream over 12 hours a day yeah social media is the hardest part for me its alot less fun
Personally, streaming is harder for me, because my schedule isn't consistent, but I can make uploads pretty consistent throughout the week. Streaming is so horrible difficult to get an audience.
Well, its all came down to talent. Some people has talent for making good video, while some people has talent in making impromptu entertainmen, and neither one is straight up harder than the other
RUclips for the introverts Twitch for the extroverts.
Im literally just starting out my anxiety is bad because i just wanna be a good streamer and just to make good videos. Like i dont wanna be perfect at all, just wanna do what i love i just wanna show myself off ya know. 😂
I just started streaming and idk weither or not I should record videos and post them instead of just doing streams on twitch.
Let’s be honest here. Top streamers employ people to do their socials… so it’s not a grind
I respect youtubers but I think a good twitch streamer regardless of how many followers they have ,they works really hard .
It's hard to be a streamer because you typically have to compete with cheaters and cornballs
100% harder to be a youtuber
Small yes medium meh large not really lol
the biggest gatekeeper ever
bohoo such a struggle...such a hard life, i am crying right now 😥
Actually both are easy when u are at the top... if you are big u open ur stream any time, do anything, and thousands will watch u, donate, etc...
the hardest part on youtube is editing the video itself, but when u are big and make a good income already, u can just hire editors, thumbmakers, etc to make the hard part for u... but I agree that being entertaining for hours on a stream everyday is hard... but if u are xqc for example is easy u can just chill watch videos and play without saying a word If u don't want and millions of dollars will be in ur bank account 😅
RUclipsrs DID IT FIRST…. respect where was created
I find it easier to be a streamer than a youtuber, i dont even post on youtube at all, i just started twitch like a week ago and already have 13 followers, So far i just enjoy twitch more than youtube
RUclipsr is pretty simple.
All it really takes is uploading every single day. Thats it.
Streaming is way harder is literally live you can’t fuck up and retake the shot 😂
I really dislike that this is even a conversation and a distraction from young people having traditional career ambitions.
I understand why it's a conversation, but for me, the majority of people who are successful Streamers and RUclipsrs are talented enough to win auditions to work in TV or Film. They just choose to Stream or post to RUclips because they make more money that way of course.
We have a society of young people who think almost any of them can be successful at streaming or post to RUclips and that is simply not the case.
Scarra could survive a car crash
the hard part is trying to actually be a good entertaining streamer for hours while there's only 2 people watching (wich is yourself and 1 bot) and making 0 income or progress 😕😕
What’s the metric for “good” in this context?
How do I start?
Right now the #1 twitch is jinxy hes on fire. 40k plus viewers each time he goes live. ❤❤Lugwid who?
i need help to become a better yter, plus i only have my phone for doing my whole yt channel and i don’t have any source of income due to being denied from 7 job places
Harder , most of them just watch RUclips video of good content produce by someone hard working then get all of the donation. 🗿🗿
Will I'm small channel on RUclips but I love to entertainment people
I wish i can grow my channel so I cab put more effort into it without thinking it's a waste of time 😮💨
It looks like you post for fun so keep doing that. There’s an audience for everything
@@rosaparks8688 I'm trying to but it's not easy I'm trying to do stuff with friends like soul link
Same man
I WILL blow up and take over on twitch. I speak it into existence and believe. God bless all of you 💫🙏😊
I start streaming last week am at 142 followers it take time
Dont stream. The success rate is so poor I wonder why its not called a pyramid scheme.
yeah...
so streaming is harder than being a youtuber and the difficult part is your socials like youtube?
yes its hard but i can do it
I gotta come out in a bikini as a male to get front page right? EZ
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Nah. It's far more difficult to be a streamer.
Definitely not
Idk man. It is soooo draining being a streamer. Reason being is you don’t grow on twitch without grinding your bum off on every platform to bring in viewers and THEN have to entertain people on live feed and not have any issues with quality, you have to keep talking, you have to have incentives. Nice thing about RUclips is you can make cuts. I love sitting back after streams and making the cuts in stream vods cuz it’s so much easier. RUclips you can also add memes and editing to make your content more interesting whereas your streams are live and entertainment depends on if the streamer is.. entertaining. And for girls if you don’t show your body and use it for views you have to work that much harder cuz ppl who want to want gameplay go to men and the ones there to watch females go to the stripped ones. You have to work hard to find genuine people and build a genuine audience. Oh and if you’re not single you’re screwed cuz everyone wants to date you man or woman. Though I’ve heard it’s not really an issue with guys but idk just trying to be equal about things.
Working class Streamers and RUclipsrs are a thing now .? I think the lamest “creators “ are the ones that need to do the most , they kinda have to just to stay relevant . 💅
I mean you’re a person so you’ll use social media more than likely regardless you you weren’t RUclips famous or streamer imo
Yes RUclips is better 😮
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i am in financial trouble
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No offense to any of these guys but I have no idea who any of these guys are. Makes me think of those youtubers or twitch streamers that have millions of followers/subscribers and can't even get 5k live views on their streams. The only one I've been able to see get 200k views consistently is Dr.Disrespect. Though I haven't seen his streams in a while. So I'll check back and see.
it must be hard for that guy to be skinny cuz damn bro looks like asian peter griffin
Neuro surgeon would be 2 life harder if you guys consider REAL actual job that need skill and obviously the word that is not really common these days ‘SCHOOL’
if they make an income out of it... is technically a real job too 🤷♂