yeah i hate that fistweapons and daggers have the highest transmogrestrictions. i mean for gods sake we can transmog warglaives to AXES but not to fistweapons eventhough fistweapons are probably the closest to fist weapons. i think they should rework transmog once again: 1. all one handed weapons should be transmoggable to other 1 handers and the same for 2handers 2. we should be able to transmog item slots instead of items. for example if you transmog your helmet to look like another helmet then it will always look like that no matter what helmet you are wearing. in that case the restrictions on holiday apearances make sense i mean you can transmog your helmet to look like that rose and you can actualy wear it all year long since you transmogged the slot if you get new items in a raid the apearance will stay the same. to balance that out they should however increase the cost for transmog. 3. we should be able to transmog different specs so when you change your specialisation it automaticaly also changes your transmog
@vhaelen. #3 is already an active option in game. Simply save your xmog to the specialization you want and every time you change spec, it changes to that saved mog.
Shadow moon clan played with void energies and since a Mag'har orc can make priests I believe that a Shadow priest from the shadow moon clan would also be viable
I just unlocked mag'har and Zandalari, and was having a minor existential crisis over what clan to play, and if I played it, what fit most.... dude your video is awesome and I appreciate the work you put into helping clarify classes with clans. You, are awesome.
Gongrongzong oh she's going to be a crazy one alright xD now I just need to think about a fitting name. Any advise in where to find Laughing Skull names for females? Or just name it with normal orcish words?
I'm not too sure honestly haha. You could try here, they have some good stuff for both male and female! www.fantasynamegenerators.com/orc_wow_names.php#.WpmXkOhubD4 Or you could just name it something silly, like iliketolaugh :P
Die laughing!, I'm going to be a Monk in either Bleeding Hollow, Shattered Hand or Frostwolf.. Better keep my chopped off arm and my eye in case I change my mind. ;)
That white face paint for Shadowmoon has meaning. It means the shaman (usually apprentice) is marked as dead by their master / people. Ner'zhul had it because of the falling to void / demons in the two timelines, Thrall's Deathknight version also bears it for obvious reasons.
Love your in depth explanation of everything. Your level of knowledge for the Orc Clans is admirable. You have my respect, comrade. Strength and Honor!
Btw in terms of shattered hand not having a missing hand, there is a transmog item that drops from Highmaul that gives you a bladed hand. :D It's one handed fist so you'd need a class that lets you wield 1 handed fist.
Oh yea! I forgot about it..thanks for that! That's really cool yea, you totally can be a shattered hand. Guess you'll have to go outlaw though haha. Still, pretty awesome!
Your videos are so full of detail, it's very clear to see you spend a lot of attention on them. Thank you for entertaining so many of us (and providing detailed information)!
I've already reserved my names. Gromosh, Torigg and Regath. Green Shaman (Frostwolf), Brown Warrior (Warsong) and Grey Rogue (Shattered hand) respectively. I love the fact they did Draenor Orcs instead of Outland Mag'har, since it means we get grey skinned orcs too. It's basically like two allied races in one! Simple solution for the Shattered hand clan is to use a fist weapon. There are two weapons both called the blade fist that drop from the Fel Horde Kargath and the Iron Horde Kargath.
Fists only mog on fists :/ Luckily theres no artifacts in BfA but good luck on wearing a fist if you got something better or if you get it at all. Cool names btw i like people with lore accurate names :D
Honestly, I think I'll just use a fist weapon even if it has the wrong stats. It'll only be 1 weapon and I'll just balance it out with some other gear or something. The loss of dps wouldn't be too drastic anyway, not enough that it'll impact raiding haha. And thanks, I only use lore friendly names. I actually just made a human alt with the name "Othmar", I can't believe it was available. It's a shame I can't get the Grand Marshal title though. If they ever decide to introduce surnames I'm grabbing Garithos.
I always thought the frostwolf clan was the most appealing of them all to me, proud and honorable, more so than the other races. Durotan embodied that. So a frostwolf shaman or hunter is very likely, for me. Yet i think the bleeding hollow clan is very cool too, with their jungle'ish tattoos and savage ways, they will definitely fit well into the next expansion with the Zandalar as new allies. Great video sir, I thought i had my orc clans right, but i realized i had some of them mixed up! sub and like!
Oh yea that's a great point! I didn't think of how well the Bleeding Hollow would fit in with the trolls. Would be an interesting story to see how they react to the "evil" blood magic of the Zanda blood cult, seeing as how they use it themselves :P Yup the Frostwolves are one of the best really. And for such an honorable clan they are still able to produce some of the most badass and iconic orcs that we know of today. And thank you! Very glad that you enjoyed the video :)
Its sad that the frostwolf armor is leather only from tanaan and lacks the headress. The only way to get a proper wolf headdress is the dark shaman set/a legendary from wod. Mail only. Le sigh
In the description for Burning Blade Clan it says “Gray/Scarred” but that’s limiting. There were brown Blademasters in Talador and Gorgrond as well as the original lore about them being a rag tag clan of mix matched clansmen makes it so you can literally be any skin tone and it will technically still be logical.
That's a great point, thanks for that! I did this more based on the observation of AU Draenor, in that when I explored their area in Nagrand I found them all to be Grey in colour. So, not too sure if Blizzard wanted AU Burning Blade to be distinguished by that :) Honestly, the description is just more of the "ideal choice" :) definitely feel free to pick whichever might fit into the lore!
Gongrongzong hmm I may have mistaken other clan members such as Blademaster Ro’gor, which is brown, the “Burning Blademaster” NPC im Talador is brown as well. You are correct in that it does seem like with the retcon of their clan origin they paired the Burning Blade Clan with the grey scarred skin.
Gongrongzong a little update on this old post, it’s good to see all the Mag’har Burning Blademaster NPCs in Orgrimmar with brown skin! I wonder why they didn’t sprinkle in Grey ones which were prominent in Talador... oh well I’m happy to see them brown.
I've been playing an Orc Hunter with the Laughing Skull mask and a giant Gorgrond wasp as a pet since WoD was a thing. So, uh. I guess that settles my choice of clan with the Mag'har Orcs :V
i am a Mag'Har Orc Shaman of the Frostwolf clan in current live WoW. it feels amazing and have wanted it for years. this video was awesome and very accurate on the clans. loved it.
with the new straightback and brownskin being a burning blade ... blademaster will be cool, specialy with the pvp flag for example that will stand straight
Blademaster really needs to be its own class for orc (and maybe tauren...?). One spec could focus on igniting the weapon for big crits, one spec focusing more on mirror image manipulation, and maybe even a tank spec focusing on letting your images take damage for you.
I always wanted race specific classes in this game. Like blademaster for orcs, spellbreaker for blood elves, warden for night elves etc. It would be so nice.
this might be my favorite youtube video i have watched it many times, i couldnt comment on your videos lately as alot of misfortune events happened and i couldnt see them in time now, good thing i can watch them all now at once :D looking forward for your next videos keep up the great work
Fantasic video mate, just what I searched for, now when Mag'har allied races are coming to wow! :D Nice with some lore and history thrown our way, as examples on what class to choose.
Just found your channel and I gotta say - amazing work! Expecially for pretty much just starting out! For someone that has difficulty sitting down and reading through big texts, but still wanting to pick up on more lore for their favorite race this is great and I absolutely love the amount of detail you put into your videos. You're defenitely very easy to listen to too, so that's a big plus! Keep up the awesome work my dude!! 8)
Thank you very much, that means a lot to me :) Very happy that you're enjoying the videos! That's my specialty, turning large chunks of wall of text into videos heh. Will keep churning out content for you!
Laughing Skull, I as RPer already hold the Laughing Skull Clan for my main and will DEFENITLY grind for a Mag'har even if just for the fact to even more so complete my character. Around the end of the video i was saddened to not have heard my Clan among the ones of your list, only to have my heart skip a beat to hear it as the very last, it had brightened my day. Thank you Gongrongzong, May many more amazing videos follow and… Die laughing~
Great video, subscribed! I'm really intrigued by the Shattered Hand, I'm gonna try to get a fist weapon that can resemble the lost hand and a transmog to go with it. Keep it up man. great video!
Yea, agree. Imagine if they come up with all the clans' heritage armors!. So far they've only datamined the Warsong armor. Alliance players would all quit :)
I hope they make the Iron Horde transmogs universal like the heritage armor, or allow you to transmog mail into leather. They could also give the Mag'har a racial passive that loosens the transmog restrictions, allowing them to transmog all gear into leather.
tusks of mannoroth... prepared! gorehowl... prepared! The black hand...prepared.!!! Blackrock costume gear..prepared!! money for race change...prepared!! when it release... not yet....
Honestly, I think you should go with the Blackrock Clan Helm, one of the three Heritage Helms.... Looks badass with the Tusks of Mannorth, fits with the rest of the set too. Me, I'm making a Laughing Skull/Shattered Hand Warrior myself.
dude I saw your video a few months ago and now I wanted to rewatch it for the infos, and with that description, you saved me a lot of time, so thank you for that, you just gained a new subscriber ;)
Even as someone who takes pride in knowing quite abit of lore, this was a great video and i picked up more then i thought i would. can't wait to make my Mag'har as soon as possible. it might not be the most original, but i always wanted to play a Warsong Warrior.
Frostwolf Shaman. Maybe with some tattoos because of a longer period of time spend with the Warsong Clan because of a need to move from place to place throughout younger life.
Warsong is actually the only clan (outside of ones with mixed colors like Burning Blade and Shattered Hand) that use that one style of brown skin tone you showed. Frostwolf, Thunderlord, Shadowmoon, and Bleeding Hollow actually use the lighter tone that also shows up with the white body paint, skin color #8 in wowhead's dressing room. This is probably just Blizz's way of showing that they're more pale than the Warsong but not as pale as the clans that rarely see the sun like Blackrock. However, it's also worth noting that it looks like we'll be encountering them 35 or so years after we left, as we've not gotten a datamined model of Grom Hellscream and he's much older with paler skin and whiter hair. I know that's newer information that couldn't have been known for this video, but it's still important to note now because it means that it makes sense why you can make any clan any class as they've had more than enough time to teach each other their ways as a united race.
Hey Rukifellth! Ah, you're right there. I think the one clear distinguishing feature for the Warsong would be their streaking black tattoos, regardless of whether they're dark brown or light brown. I get what you mean by every clan can now can be every class, definitely possible. Enough time has passed with them united to share their ways with one another. But I think some strong traditions will still stay, such as the Warsong probably not going the route of rogues, and the shadowmoon probably not going the path of warriors. And yup! Even newer datamined info also shows that the Draenei are now the enemy, even if they might have worked together initially. 35 years, more than enough time for even the Draenei to teach the orcs the ways of the light before they broke off. Thanks for the detailed comment! I appreciate it :)
I'm just coming back after being away from WoW for 5 years. Since I'm on an RP server, I've been holding off on making a Mag'har Orc since i wasn't sure what cosmetic went where. This vid has been so helpful. Now I'm on the fence for a Thunderlord hunter, or Laughing Skull, unsure which class though.
I dunno if I buy the idea that Shadowmoon aren't all about that void magic anymore considering we see Mag'har shadow priest NPCs all over the place, including as the portal NPCs for AU Draenor.
I went straight for a Hunter using the Bleeding Hollow white paint style based purely on aesthetic, but I wanted to know more about them as a clan and I have to say it feels like a good decision. The hook you get as an ability for survival hunters lets you quickly move from one enemy to another, slaughtering them as fast and aggressively as possible alongside your pet. It's a good fit for a savage orc as a whole, but I feel it fits the Bleeding Hollow particularly well. Maybe even the Shattered Hand, minus the fact that you'd be forced to, you know, keep your hand. Definitely would work for Thunderlords, too, considering how much they love chaining up animals and people. Anyway, just wanted to say this is a pretty fantastic set of guidelines for setting up a Mag'har Orc of each particular clan. Great work.
This was exactly what I was looking for! Now I know some basics about each clan and also know how to customise my future Laughing Skull rogue. Thanks so much!
Hey Prot0type101 :) Thank you, very glad that the video was able to help! Remember to get their iconic mask too if you haven't got it! It's just a simple rep grind to obtain it :)
that blackrock skin have that ice cold eye feeling like one of the vanilla orc faces had that i really missed with the new models! Gonna go blackrock for sure
seriously thanks for making this video it really helped me out in picking what I want lore wise and class wise also I didn't know what colour orc I should pick but this vid helped me out with that too ty keep it up
Good channel! You sir know your orcs! I am a HUGE ORC FAN! i just last night unlocked rhe maghar orcs made a survival hunter! So cool to see what each skin is too
Hey Denise Bruce! Thanks a lot, I'm very glad that you enjoyed the video! Hope you have a great 2019 ahead of you and that you get all the time in the world to play your mag'har orc :)
This video helped me a lot! I'm going with a Frostwolf Elemental Shaman. The Shadowmoon clan is too peaceful and clean for an orc clan, while the other clans are too barbaric. Frostwolf is the perfect balance.
Burning blade - charred or brown monk Blackrock- grey/black warrior (i can finally be a foot soldier for the great military power of the blackrock orcs)
Well done! But i have a suggestion for those who want to play a shatterhand orc. Be a rogue. Being a rogue, you have the option of fist weapon. And there are some pretty cool wod, fist weapons that look like what shatterhands would wear. I think they are called the blade fist.
I'am planning on Rolling a Mag'har shadow priest. Since I play on an rp realm, I intend to RP him as an outcast Shadowmoon Clan member, that has retained his connection to the void, and continues to practice void magic. Perhaps even being welcomed back into the clan closer to them joining the Horde, as his aide against the Lightbound would have been perhaps welcomed as a counter to them.
Hey TheWatcher! Oh that backstory sounds awesome. Totally fits in with how the practice was looked down upon by the elders. As per the story, it seems most of the Mag'har are gone anyway :) so you going to the new Horde as an outcast makes perfect sense
Thank you for the comment :) That's a great idea, I've only been focusing on the upcoming ones because of all the hype. I'll definitely consider the others too!
Hey Praseve! I should have yea :) And now it's been confirmed that they can be priests, so I did a new video for it. I was going under the initial assumption that they abhorred the void, and so wouldn't want to be shadow priests any longer. But, I guess 30 years does change things! Thanks for the comment, great point :)
Very good video.. Excellent way to lay out the elements to help folks. I plan to play a bleeding hollow orc and roll a extremely savage hunter concept. Struggling in a wild jungle at least a few would master the animals.
Currently playing a Blackrock outlaw rogue. I have him transmogged as a miner with a pickaxe/beer mug as weapons. Trying to go for a miner/geologist type look, which goes with the clan affinity for earth and metal I think. Awesome video btw. Mag'har are great. :)
So, I've unlocked the Mag'har three weeks ago and I already spent almost 6 days worth of playtime on the Shaman (Frostwolf-themed). I already have the Frostwolf title, the two white Wolf mounts from Draenor and the Frostwolf Pup but I'm taking my time my sweet time with it. I've barely hit level 75. The only thing that will make me reconsider the race will be the Zandalari. I mean... that mount from Dazar in Kings' Rest is so badass! I just hope the racials will be good enough but as a Shaman, having two of the appearances of the artifacts being Troll-ish (Doomhammer as a Zandalar weapon and the Fist of Ra-den as Amani)... Godlike! I do have the Challenge Skin for Elemental so I'm fine in keeping it Orc/Horde theme. But something that makes me happy about the Mag'har Shaman? The totems. Most badass "playable" totem ever designed in the game... especially when you have the "symbol of shame" turned into an actual item of balance and unity... becoming a small volcano. :-P
@@enniopaone The Doomhammer is a powerful heirloom of the Blackrock Clan that is shamanistic in origin being a direct gift from the elements, and there are many Blackrock shaman NPCs including in this video. The Blackrock aren't just associated with earth and fire for the way they live, it is a part of them, has left its mark on them like the Dark Iron Dwarves.
@@enniopaone As for Shadowmoon Priests I wasn't referring to shadow priests but priests in general. Though called Shamans the mystics of the Sahdowmoon Clan focus more on the spiritual aspect, communicating with their ancestors and the stars more than the elements. A Disc or Holy priest that emphasize these traits would be quite fitting.
As for shattered hand orcs if you wanna live up to the lore you can get the epic fist wep from hc shattered halls to give the appearance of having one hand
Warsong Orcs were not named for their drums and battle cries and war hymns. They were called Warsong because of their axes. All Warsong axes have two notches, and when the axes are swung, the notches make whistles through the air like a song. Thus they were named Warsong for the whistling notes of their Warsong Howling Axes.
Dragonmaw clan is already in the game- it's the greyish/blue tint of the classic green orcs! My original character, an orc hunter, uses this skin color. Great video!
This is from the far future of 2020, but honestly, the idea of being a frostwolf raised into being a death knight sounds interesting. Or really any mag’har of shamanic origin, for irony’s sake I’m tempted to go Shadowmoon
The original Shattered Hand were mostly grayish/white because they have been kept underground by the ogres. As for playing one-handed shattered hand it should also be mentioned to get the bladehand from Kargath as a transmog if you want the iconic style of the clan. As for the shadow moon I found the collection of classes rather lacking. They are also perfectly suitable for the 2 classes that fit to none other clan: Mage and Priest. Other than that: Good video.
How do you think they’ll be introduced to be recruited into the Horde? Will they immigrate to present day Azeroth in mass or just individuals taking up the call for aid and to battle?
Hey FUmarc! I have my suspicions that they might have something to do with Varok Saurfang, in his search for perhaps a new horde in the light of his conflict with Sylvanas :) As for numbers, I think it won't be all of them, as their main home is still Draenor and it's still well and stable, unlike our universe's Draenor. Thanks for the question though! I'm excited myself to see how it's gonna turn out
You could count the Shadow Council as a Clan, in a way. They had a decent sum of followers, but were only called the Shadow Council due to three prime leaders. If you count it, add in Warlocks and Shadow Priests.
I'd say specifically Frostwolves would be a Survival Hunter as they're more melee based than the Thunderlords who are ranged Hunters instead, sometimes class specs speak louder then the class itself (Priest mostly there). Also was the Shadowmoon Clan or the Shadowmoon Exiles confirmed for the Draenor Orcs allied race yet? i know the Shadowmoon were classified as betrayers at one stage and the Exiles don't trust the Iron Horde due to what happened as well. Also i think early on people noted that there customisation has a unique restrictions in which only some skins have access to some tattoos or other body items like bone growths or piercings too which is quite cool if you ask me, stops hybrid clan nonsense occurring.
Hey Damian! Yup, you're right, Frostwolves would certainly make excellent survival hunters too. Never seen a frostwolf in game using ranged weapons yet, but we do see a few select Thunderlords using bows. Nope, we don't know exactly which specific clans are joining the Horde. But I'm going under the assumptions that most if not all the major ones are, based on the skin customisations that we already have for them :)
you know; and i don't know how per say but, this expansion and with the scenario we do to recruit the maghar, we could see the rise of orc paladins (just so long as its maghar tho maybe they could teach the azeroth orcs depending on the how this could be possible)
There's a fun little obscure small orc clan from the semi-scrapped adventure game with Thrall called the Lightning's Blade clan. These crazy mofos would go on top of mountains with their axes and have to be struck by lightning at least three times and survive to be considered warriors. Seems like they'd've been a small clan of elite warriors since few could. . . y'know, survive that rite of initiation.
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If you want to play as a Shattered hand Rogue simply transmog one of your weapons as the blade fist from Kargath in the Shattered halls.
That's a awesome idea. I like it.
Too bad for assa and sub rogues I guess, heh.
Yeah if you’re lucky enough to have a fist weapon.
Jordan Parkhurst you can also get it from highmaul
yeah i hate that fistweapons and daggers have the highest transmogrestrictions. i mean for gods sake we can transmog warglaives to AXES but not to fistweapons eventhough fistweapons are probably the closest to fist weapons. i think they should rework transmog once again:
1. all one handed weapons should be transmoggable to other 1 handers and the same for 2handers
2. we should be able to transmog item slots instead of items. for example if you transmog your helmet to look like another helmet then it will always look like that no matter what helmet you are wearing. in that case the restrictions on holiday apearances make sense i mean you can transmog your helmet to look like that rose and you can actualy wear it all year long since you transmogged the slot if you get new items in a raid the apearance will stay the same. to balance that out they should however increase the cost for transmog.
3. we should be able to transmog different specs so when you change your specialisation it automaticaly also changes your transmog
@vhaelen. #3 is already an active option in game. Simply save your xmog to the specialization you want and every time you change spec, it changes to that saved mog.
Shadow moon clan played with void energies and since a Mag'har orc can make priests I believe that a Shadow priest from the shadow moon clan would also be viable
3:20 Warsong
6:03 Frostwolf
8:46 Blackrock clan
11:13 Shadowmoon clan
13:25 Burning blade
15:39 Bleeding hollow clan
17:41 Shatterd hand clan
20:02 Thunderlord clan
21:05 laughing skull clan
I just unlocked mag'har and Zandalari, and was having a minor existential crisis over what clan to play, and if I played it, what fit most.... dude your video is awesome and I appreciate the work you put into helping clarify classes with clans.
You, are awesome.
What expancion do u need to unlock the mag'har orcs
@@aleksamosic7112 battle for azeroth
@@mysteriousclem1980 shit my private server is on legion😂
Laughing Skull Shaman for sure. Such an odd yet canon and amazing combination!
make sure you laughing maniacally as you play him X)
Gongrongzong oh she's going to be a crazy one alright xD now I just need to think about a fitting name. Any advise in where to find Laughing Skull names for females? Or just name it with normal orcish words?
I'm not too sure honestly haha. You could try here, they have some good stuff for both male and female! www.fantasynamegenerators.com/orc_wow_names.php#.WpmXkOhubD4
Or you could just name it something silly, like iliketolaugh :P
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Die laughing!, I'm going to be a Monk in either Bleeding Hollow, Shattered Hand or Frostwolf.. Better keep my chopped off arm and my eye in case I change my mind. ;)
That white face paint for Shadowmoon has meaning. It means the shaman (usually apprentice) is marked as dead by their master / people. Ner'zhul had it because of the falling to void / demons in the two timelines, Thrall's Deathknight version also bears it for obvious reasons.
That's very cool, I didn't know that. Now that I think about it, the Shadowmoon exiles didn't have any face paint on them.
Thanks for that lore tip!
I think the ingame face paint is for the Bleeding hollow alone.
@@georgestaykov5358 Probably. But you could wear something to cover the tattoos on your body so only your face is seen with it.
Love your in depth explanation of everything. Your level of knowledge for the Orc Clans is admirable. You have my respect, comrade. Strength and Honor!
Thank you :) Lok'tar Ogar brother!
Btw in terms of shattered hand not having a missing hand, there is a transmog item that drops from Highmaul that gives you a bladed hand. :D It's one handed fist so you'd need a class that lets you wield 1 handed fist.
Oh yea! I forgot about it..thanks for that! That's really cool yea, you totally can be a shattered hand. Guess you'll have to go outlaw though haha. Still, pretty awesome!
Where's that profile pic from? I need it for my research...
Your videos are so full of detail, it's very clear to see you spend a lot of attention on them. Thank you for entertaining so many of us (and providing detailed information)!
Thank you, very happy that you are enjoying them! Will keep pumping out more for you guys :)
He's awesome , ambitious young one
I've already reserved my names. Gromosh, Torigg and Regath. Green Shaman (Frostwolf), Brown Warrior (Warsong) and Grey Rogue (Shattered hand) respectively. I love the fact they did Draenor Orcs instead of Outland Mag'har, since it means we get grey skinned orcs too. It's basically like two allied races in one! Simple solution for the Shattered hand clan is to use a fist weapon. There are two weapons both called the blade fist that drop from the Fel Horde Kargath and the Iron Horde Kargath.
Fists only mog on fists :/ Luckily theres no artifacts in BfA but good luck on wearing a fist if you got something better or if you get it at all. Cool names btw i like people with lore accurate names :D
Honestly, I think I'll just use a fist weapon even if it has the wrong stats. It'll only be 1 weapon and I'll just balance it out with some other gear or something. The loss of dps wouldn't be too drastic anyway, not enough that it'll impact raiding haha.
And thanks, I only use lore friendly names. I actually just made a human alt with the name "Othmar", I can't believe it was available. It's a shame I can't get the Grand Marshal title though.
If they ever decide to introduce surnames I'm grabbing Garithos.
Mag'har orc dont include the shattered hand clan. But u can make a green orc from the shattered hand if u want a 100% RP caracter
@@thibautlemaire4246 Yes they do. They are called Mag'har Ripper.
I always thought the frostwolf clan was the most appealing of them all to me, proud and honorable, more so than the other races. Durotan embodied that. So a frostwolf shaman or hunter is very likely, for me. Yet i think the bleeding hollow clan is very cool too, with their jungle'ish tattoos and savage ways, they will definitely fit well into the next expansion with the Zandalar as new allies. Great video sir, I thought i had my orc clans right, but i realized i had some of them mixed up! sub and like!
Oh yea that's a great point! I didn't think of how well the Bleeding Hollow would fit in with the trolls. Would be an interesting story to see how they react to the "evil" blood magic of the Zanda blood cult, seeing as how they use it themselves :P
Yup the Frostwolves are one of the best really. And for such an honorable clan they are still able to produce some of the most badass and iconic orcs that we know of today.
And thank you! Very glad that you enjoyed the video :)
I'm praying Frostwolves would get access to a more Frostwolf visual heritage armor. I want that leather look with that prized wolf helm for my Shaman.
Yea man! Totally agree with you. Durotan's iconic Frostwolf armor looks badass. Even though it was made from his ex-companion, but still :)
Its sad that the frostwolf armor is leather only from tanaan and lacks the headress.
The only way to get a proper wolf headdress is the dark shaman set/a legendary from wod.
Mail only.
Le sigh
@@ConnorNotyerbidness There is the toy from Moonfang I think it is in the Darkmoon Faire. It puts a white wolf head on your character.
In the description for Burning Blade Clan it says “Gray/Scarred” but that’s limiting.
There were brown Blademasters in Talador and Gorgrond as well as the original lore about them being a rag tag clan of mix matched clansmen makes it so you can literally be any skin tone and it will technically still be logical.
That's a great point, thanks for that! I did this more based on the observation of AU Draenor, in that when I explored their area in Nagrand I found them all to be Grey in colour. So, not too sure if Blizzard wanted AU Burning Blade to be distinguished by that :)
Honestly, the description is just more of the "ideal choice" :) definitely feel free to pick whichever might fit into the lore!
Gongrongzong hmm I may have mistaken other clan members such as Blademaster Ro’gor, which is brown, the “Burning Blademaster” NPC im Talador is brown as well.
You are correct in that it does seem like with the retcon of their clan origin they paired the Burning Blade Clan with the grey scarred skin.
Gongrongzong a little update on this old post, it’s good to see all the Mag’har Burning Blademaster NPCs in Orgrimmar with brown skin!
I wonder why they didn’t sprinkle in Grey ones which were prominent in Talador... oh well I’m happy to see them brown.
I've been playing an Orc Hunter with the Laughing Skull mask and a giant Gorgrond wasp as a pet since WoD was a thing. So, uh. I guess that settles my choice of clan with the Mag'har Orcs :V
Wasp pet with a laughing skull hunter sounds awesome :)
Whackjood don't forget to buy that laughing skull mount from blizz shop :-)
Or get a hyena pet/mount. Match made in heaven.
Another classic. Happy for the horde players and can only look to improve the game as a whole. Thank you for the upload and the time and passion.
Thank you for the comment :) Lok'tar Ogar brother!
i am a Mag'Har Orc Shaman of the Frostwolf clan in current live WoW. it feels amazing and have wanted it for years. this video was awesome and very accurate on the clans. loved it.
with the new straightback and brownskin being a burning blade ... blademaster will be cool, specialy with the pvp flag for example that will stand straight
Oh yea! The pvp flag does sounds like a perfect addition. Never thought of that, thanks!
I’m too lazy to grind for the pendant but I need it to complete my Blademaster look.
Blademaster really needs to be its own class for orc (and maybe tauren...?). One spec could focus on igniting the weapon for big crits, one spec focusing more on mirror image manipulation, and maybe even a tank spec focusing on letting your images take damage for you.
That's exactly what im going for. I have everything, i just need to switch from green to brown!
I always wanted race specific classes in this game. Like blademaster for orcs, spellbreaker for blood elves, warden for night elves etc. It would be so nice.
Great video. Even though I'm Alliance at heart, I really enjoy the lore around the orc clans.
Yea, orcs are awesome. They are, in a way, kind of what makes the alliance what they are today.
And thanks! Very glad to hear that you enjoyed it :)
this might be my favorite youtube video i have watched it many times, i couldnt comment on your videos lately as alot of misfortune events happened and i couldnt see them in time now, good thing i can watch them all now at once :D looking forward for your next videos keep up the great work
Fantasic video mate, just what I searched for, now when Mag'har allied races are coming to wow! :D
Nice with some lore and history thrown our way, as examples on what class to choose.
Thank you :) Very happy that you enjoyed it! Hope you enjoy your Mag'ar when they come out!
dude this is the most extensive, the greatest video i have ever watched about an allied race. congrats, you rock!
Man I down right Love all ur videos. wish you all the subs in the world bro
Hey King VOX! Thanks a lot :) Very glad that you're enjoying them. I appreciate the comment very much!
Orcs = Superior race
once we get them with strait backs then yes
I´d rather play panda
Remember what happened to Garrosh?
Gorrila looking mofukas
Gnomes = Superior race
Do orcs have helicopters or spider tanks ?
Wonderful video. Just unlocked Mag'har and wanted to make my Shaman one. :D
Thanks SwashBuccaneer :) Hope you're enjoying him and later the heritage armor!
Just found your channel and I gotta say - amazing work! Expecially for pretty much just starting out! For someone that has difficulty sitting down and reading through big texts, but still wanting to pick up on more lore for their favorite race this is great and I absolutely love the amount of detail you put into your videos. You're defenitely very easy to listen to too, so that's a big plus!
Keep up the awesome work my dude!! 8)
Thank you very much, that means a lot to me :) Very happy that you're enjoying the videos!
That's my specialty, turning large chunks of wall of text into videos heh. Will keep churning out content for you!
Laughing Skull,
I as RPer already hold the Laughing Skull Clan for my main and will DEFENITLY grind for a Mag'har even if just for the fact to even more so complete my character.
Around the end of the video i was saddened to not have heard my Clan among the ones of your list, only to have my heart skip a beat to hear it as the very last, it had brightened my day.
Thank you Gongrongzong, May many more amazing videos follow and…
Die laughing~
Great video, subscribed! I'm really intrigued by the Shattered Hand, I'm gonna try to get a fist weapon that can resemble the lost hand and a transmog to go with it. Keep it up man. great video!
Yea! If you get one you'll totally look like a Shattered Hand :) Thanks, very glad that you enjoyed it!
Too bad the cosmetic Frostwolf gear from WoD is leather only. I would love to play as a Frostwolf Shaman in that set
Yea, agree. Imagine if they come up with all the clans' heritage armors!. So far they've only datamined the Warsong armor. Alliance players would all quit :)
Matthew Owens I hope they release new wolf pelts.
I hope they make the Iron Horde transmogs universal like the heritage armor, or allow you to transmog mail into leather. They could also give the Mag'har a racial passive that loosens the transmog restrictions, allowing them to transmog all gear into leather.
loyal night elf debating making an orc here...
@@Gongrongzong There is Blackrock, Frostwolf, and Warsong for the heritage armor. Still not as good as the leather Frostwolf set sadly.
Honestly I'm getting really excited for this expansion!
This video is amazing! You did an excellent job with choosing clips and imagea to fit the narration, and a great job doing all the research! Respect!
Thanks, great to hear feedback that the clips were suitable :) Glad that you enjoyed it!
Very good and helpful video man!
Hey benimaxar! Glad that i was able to help :)
Id say a laughing skull could also be a hunter. Since they are seen often with ravagers by their side.
awesome video like always man!
Thanks :D happy that you enjoyed it!
alexander baca just what i wanted to say :p
By far my favorite video by you. Keep up the great content creation man!
Hey Marvin! Thank you very much, I appreciate that :) hope you have a great week ahead!
tusks of mannoroth... prepared!
gorehowl... prepared!
The black hand...prepared.!!!
Blackrock costume gear..prepared!!
money for race change...prepared!!
when it release... not yet....
Damn you have tusks? I am jelly.
Better also work on that Mythic Blackrock Foundry Transmog! Nothing more sick than that!
Honestly, I think you should go with the Blackrock Clan Helm, one of the three Heritage Helms.... Looks badass with the Tusks of Mannorth, fits with the rest of the set too.
Me, I'm making a Laughing Skull/Shattered Hand Warrior myself.
tomorrow
I unlcoked mag’har orc 2 days ago!
I did all of the lists! and I start leveling new charcter for heritage armor
dude I saw your video a few months ago and now I wanted to rewatch it for the infos, and with that description, you saved me a lot of time, so thank you for that, you just gained a new subscriber ;)
Very nice video. Would not have guessed you have so little subscribers based on the video. Keep it up!
Yaaaaas! I needed this video. I've always loved the Frostwolf Clan but I've been iffy about what skin etc. to use
Hey iam! Glad that you got something out of it! Thanks for the comment :)
FANTASTIC video. Just what I was lookin for! So hard to decide which clan is my favourite
Hey James! Thanks man, glad you liked it. Same, for me it's warsong or blackrock, these two are the top :)
I am torn between warsong and blackrock clans. Great guide btw!
Thank you very munch for this video. It will help me a lot on my Mag'har character creations.
Hey Asgeir! Thank you :) Very glad that you got something out of it
Even as someone who takes pride in knowing quite abit of lore, this was a great video and i picked up more then i thought i would. can't wait to make my Mag'har as soon as possible. it might not be the most original, but i always wanted to play a Warsong Warrior.
Pirate hooks were datamined as weapons in BfA. Also you can get a shattered hand weapon drop from Kargath in Highmaul. SO there are options.
Hey Jason! Oh nice, I didn't know about the pirates hooks. That is very cool. Thanks for the comment man!
Frostwolf Shaman. Maybe with some tattoos because of a longer period of time spend with the Warsong Clan because of a need to move from place to place throughout younger life.
Heya ᛖᚱᚺᚨᚱᛞ! Oh that's nice. Both clans integrating their lifestyles after the closing of the portal. I like that :)
Warsong is actually the only clan (outside of ones with mixed colors like Burning Blade and Shattered Hand) that use that one style of brown skin tone you showed. Frostwolf, Thunderlord, Shadowmoon, and Bleeding Hollow actually use the lighter tone that also shows up with the white body paint, skin color #8 in wowhead's dressing room. This is probably just Blizz's way of showing that they're more pale than the Warsong but not as pale as the clans that rarely see the sun like Blackrock.
However, it's also worth noting that it looks like we'll be encountering them 35 or so years after we left, as we've not gotten a datamined model of Grom Hellscream and he's much older with paler skin and whiter hair. I know that's newer information that couldn't have been known for this video, but it's still important to note now because it means that it makes sense why you can make any clan any class as they've had more than enough time to teach each other their ways as a united race.
Hey Rukifellth!
Ah, you're right there. I think the one clear distinguishing feature for the Warsong would be their streaking black tattoos, regardless of whether they're dark brown or light brown.
I get what you mean by every clan can now can be every class, definitely possible. Enough time has passed with them united to share their ways with one another. But I think some strong traditions will still stay, such as the Warsong probably not going the route of rogues, and the shadowmoon probably not going the path of warriors.
And yup! Even newer datamined info also shows that the Draenei are now the enemy, even if they might have worked together initially. 35 years, more than enough time for even the Draenei to teach the orcs the ways of the light before they broke off.
Thanks for the detailed comment! I appreciate it :)
I'm just coming back after being away from WoW for 5 years. Since I'm on an RP server, I've been holding off on making a Mag'har Orc since i wasn't sure what cosmetic went where. This vid has been so helpful. Now I'm on the fence for a Thunderlord hunter, or Laughing Skull, unsure which class though.
I dunno if I buy the idea that Shadowmoon aren't all about that void magic anymore considering we see Mag'har shadow priest NPCs all over the place, including as the portal NPCs for AU Draenor.
This is a great rundown of these clans. Thanks for putting this together!
I went straight for a Hunter using the Bleeding Hollow white paint style based purely on aesthetic, but I wanted to know more about them as a clan and I have to say it feels like a good decision. The hook you get as an ability for survival hunters lets you quickly move from one enemy to another, slaughtering them as fast and aggressively as possible alongside your pet. It's a good fit for a savage orc as a whole, but I feel it fits the Bleeding Hollow particularly well. Maybe even the Shattered Hand, minus the fact that you'd be forced to, you know, keep your hand. Definitely would work for Thunderlords, too, considering how much they love chaining up animals and people.
Anyway, just wanted to say this is a pretty fantastic set of guidelines for setting up a Mag'har Orc of each particular clan. Great work.
The Bleeding Hollow clan have an EYEconic ceremony! XD
Oh man. hahaha
Gongrongzong I CANT BELIEVE IT!!! YOU REPLIED!!! THIS IS THE BEST DAY EVEEEEER
Of course I'll reply! You commented, so I'll comment back :)
This is SO cool
This was exactly what I was looking for! Now I know some basics about each clan and also know how to customise my future Laughing Skull rogue. Thanks so much!
Hey Prot0type101 :) Thank you, very glad that the video was able to help! Remember to get their iconic mask too if you haven't got it! It's just a simple rep grind to obtain it :)
Nice detailed video, straight to the point aswell earned yourself a sub :)
Thanks! Very glad that you enjoyed it :)
that blackrock skin have that ice cold eye feeling like one of the vanilla orc faces had that i really missed with the new models! Gonna go blackrock for sure
Yup! Sometimes their eyes even glow, reflecting their smithing origins. Totally badass and evil :)
seriously thanks for making this video it really helped me out in picking what I want lore wise and class wise also I didn't know what colour orc I should pick but this vid helped me out with that too ty keep it up
Thanks! Really happy that it managed to help you out :))
Good channel! You sir know your orcs! I am a HUGE ORC FAN! i just last night unlocked rhe maghar orcs made a survival hunter! So cool to see what each skin is too
Hey Denise Bruce! Thanks a lot, I'm very glad that you enjoyed the video! Hope you have a great 2019 ahead of you and that you get all the time in the world to play your mag'har orc :)
This video helped me a lot! I'm going with a Frostwolf Elemental Shaman. The Shadowmoon clan is too peaceful and clean for an orc clan, while the other clans are too barbaric. Frostwolf is the perfect balance.
Burning blade - charred or brown monk
Blackrock- grey/black warrior (i can finally be a foot soldier for the great military power of the blackrock orcs)
Well done! But i have a suggestion for those who want to play a shatterhand orc. Be a rogue. Being a rogue, you have the option of fist weapon. And there are some pretty cool wod, fist weapons that look like what shatterhands would wear. I think they are called the blade fist.
I'am planning on Rolling a Mag'har shadow priest. Since I play on an rp realm, I intend to RP him as an outcast Shadowmoon Clan member, that has retained his connection to the void, and continues to practice void magic. Perhaps even being welcomed back into the clan closer to them joining the Horde, as his aide against the Lightbound would have been perhaps welcomed as a counter to them.
Hey TheWatcher! Oh that backstory sounds awesome. Totally fits in with how the practice was looked down upon by the elders.
As per the story, it seems most of the Mag'har are gone anyway :) so you going to the new Horde as an outcast makes perfect sense
I rarely take time to like RUclips videos, but here I go! Good job!
Thank you :) Very glad that you enjoyed the vid!
You did an awesome job at this. Thank you!
Also, I'd love to see a similar video for all of the other races, old and new. I figure you could make a series out of this if you wanted.
Thank you for the comment :) That's a great idea, I've only been focusing on the upcoming ones because of all the hype. I'll definitely consider the others too!
You should add Mag'har Priest to Shadowmoon Clan, I think that clan is the main inspiration for there being Priests for Mag'har :)
Hey Praseve! I should have yea :) And now it's been confirmed that they can be priests, so I did a new video for it. I was going under the initial assumption that they abhorred the void, and so wouldn't want to be shadow priests any longer. But, I guess 30 years does change things! Thanks for the comment, great point :)
Love this video on the Orc Clans, please do more for the other clans that weren't originate from Dreanor
Glad you liked it! That's a great idea, I'll definitely consider it :)
Great video keep them coming you have earned a sub!
Thank you :) Very glad that you enjoyed it!
Thank you so much for replying im sure you will have 1 million subs in no time!
Of course I will reply :) 1 million! Lets go for it!
Very good video.. Excellent way to lay out the elements to help folks. I plan to play a bleeding hollow orc and roll a extremely savage hunter concept. Struggling in a wild jungle at least a few would master the animals.
Thank you so much. Late to the party but Mag’Har Orc all the way! 🤙🏻
There is precedent for Laughing Skull Monks. Bruto is one of your followers back in WoD. He comes from the Gladiator pits in Stonemaul.
Currently playing a Blackrock outlaw rogue. I have him transmogged as a miner with a pickaxe/beer mug as weapons. Trying to go for a miner/geologist type look, which goes with the clan affinity for earth and metal I think. Awesome video btw. Mag'har are great. :)
Hahah that's awesome! I always loved the old school simple pickaxe/beermug. And yup, definitely goes with their mining background :)
So, I've unlocked the Mag'har three weeks ago and I already spent almost 6 days worth of playtime on the Shaman (Frostwolf-themed).
I already have the Frostwolf title, the two white Wolf mounts from Draenor and the Frostwolf Pup but I'm taking my time my sweet time with it. I've barely hit level 75.
The only thing that will make me reconsider the race will be the Zandalari. I mean... that mount from Dazar in Kings' Rest is so badass! I just hope the racials will be good enough but as a Shaman, having two of the appearances of the artifacts being Troll-ish (Doomhammer as a Zandalar weapon and the Fist of Ra-den as Amani)... Godlike!
I do have the Challenge Skin for Elemental so I'm fine in keeping it Orc/Horde theme. But something that makes me happy about the Mag'har Shaman? The totems. Most badass "playable" totem ever designed in the game... especially when you have the "symbol of shame" turned into an actual item of balance and unity... becoming a small volcano. :-P
For the Horde! For the Draenor! For the Hellscream! For the ORCS! For the Burning Blade! For the Blademasters! Hellyeah Samuro! ♥
But what about Shadow Moon Priests? Also I can see Blackrock Enhancement/Elemental Shamans also being a thing with their affinity for stone and fire.
@@enniopaone The Doomhammer is a powerful heirloom of the Blackrock Clan that is shamanistic in origin being a direct gift from the elements, and there are many Blackrock shaman NPCs including in this video. The Blackrock aren't just associated with earth and fire for the way they live, it is a part of them, has left its mark on them like the Dark Iron Dwarves.
@@enniopaone As for Shadowmoon Priests I wasn't referring to shadow priests but priests in general. Though called Shamans the mystics of the Sahdowmoon Clan focus more on the spiritual aspect, communicating with their ancestors and the stars more than the elements. A Disc or Holy priest that emphasize these traits would be quite fitting.
You missed one of the most badass frostwolf warriors, Ga'nar!
There were too many :( I had to choose. But yea, definitely another great Frostwolf warrior!
Scrolled too much for this
Great video dude! I enjoyed every minute of it!
As for shattered hand orcs if you wanna live up to the lore you can get the epic fist wep from hc shattered halls to give the appearance of having one hand
Warsong Orcs were not named for their drums and battle cries and war hymns. They were called Warsong because of their axes. All Warsong axes have two notches, and when the axes are swung, the notches make whistles through the air like a song. Thus they were named Warsong for the whistling notes of their Warsong Howling Axes.
Wow
Not true only Gorehowl is like that again only Gorehowl.
for the shattered hand you can get the fist weapon from the first raid in wod. it covers your hand so as a rogue it would be fitting
This was definitely a good video keep it up!
Thanks :) Glad you liked it!
Very informative! I learned a lot watching this video. Thanks 😊
Dragonmaw clan is already in the game- it's the greyish/blue tint of the classic green orcs! My original character, an orc hunter, uses this skin color.
Great video!
Oh that's awesome. A Dragonmaw orc hunter. You should tame a chimera or rylak as a pet :) And thanks! Glad you liked the vid.
This is a great channel. I just found it and already love it.
This is from the far future of 2020, but honestly, the idea of being a frostwolf raised into being a death knight sounds interesting. Or really any mag’har of shamanic origin, for irony’s sake I’m tempted to go Shadowmoon
Great video. I'll be making a warrior of either Blackrock or Warsong (haven't decided yet), and a Shadowmoon Void Priest.
Definitely gonna play a Burning Blade Monk
Soo.. where does the priest fit in? Shadowmoon clan?
Yep mainly the shadow priest spec as it's all about the void
The original Shattered Hand were mostly grayish/white because they have been kept underground by the ogres. As for playing one-handed shattered hand it should also be mentioned to get the bladehand from Kargath as a transmog if you want the iconic style of the clan.
As for the shadow moon I found the collection of classes rather lacking. They are also perfectly suitable for the 2 classes that fit to none other clan: Mage and Priest.
Other than that: Good video.
Deffo going Hunter on my Mag'Har-- Brown Orcs are the original Hunter archtype.
How do you think they’ll be introduced to be recruited into the Horde? Will they immigrate to present day Azeroth in mass or just individuals taking up the call for aid and to battle?
Hey FUmarc! I have my suspicions that they might have something to do with Varok Saurfang, in his search for perhaps a new horde in the light of his conflict with Sylvanas :) As for numbers, I think it won't be all of them, as their main home is still Draenor and it's still well and stable, unlike our universe's Draenor.
Thanks for the question though! I'm excited myself to see how it's gonna turn out
You can transmog a Maghar shattered hand orc with a fist weapon that makes him have the one handed blade.
You could count the Shadow Council as a Clan, in a way. They had a decent sum of followers, but were only called the Shadow Council due to three prime leaders. If you count it, add in Warlocks and Shadow Priests.
I'd say specifically Frostwolves would be a Survival Hunter as they're more melee based than the Thunderlords who are ranged Hunters instead, sometimes class specs speak louder then the class itself (Priest mostly there).
Also was the Shadowmoon Clan or the Shadowmoon Exiles confirmed for the Draenor Orcs allied race yet? i know the Shadowmoon were classified as betrayers at one stage and the Exiles don't trust the Iron Horde due to what happened as well.
Also i think early on people noted that there customisation has a unique restrictions in which only some skins have access to some tattoos or other body items like bone growths or piercings too which is quite cool if you ask me, stops hybrid clan nonsense occurring.
Hey Damian! Yup, you're right, Frostwolves would certainly make excellent survival hunters too. Never seen a frostwolf in game using ranged weapons yet, but we do see a few select Thunderlords using bows.
Nope, we don't know exactly which specific clans are joining the Horde. But I'm going under the assumptions that most if not all the major ones are, based on the skin customisations that we already have for them :)
Gonna race change my orc toons. Blackrock Warrior, Shattered Hand Rogue, Warsong Hunter, Bleeding Hollow Shaman, Shadowmoon Mage.
Hey apoctriforce! That is a lot of orc toons that you have 😆
For shatterhand RP you can kill Outland Kargath. He drops his blade-hand %)
Looks like bleeding hollow for me. Love Kilrogg. Great fit for zandalar as well :D
Love this!! Thank you
Thanks! Very glad you liked it :)
Can't believe I watched till the end! Good video! Subbed! Btw your accent, are you from Malaysia/Singapore? Just guessing no offence!
Thank you! Very happy that you watched the whole thing haha
No offence taken, I'm from Singapore :)
My Tauren warrior will become a Black Rock Warrior, and I cant wait
Lok'tar Ogar brother!
you know; and i don't know how per say but, this expansion and with the scenario we do to recruit the maghar, we could see the rise of orc paladins (just so long as its maghar tho maybe they could teach the azeroth orcs depending on the how this could be possible)
There's a fun little obscure small orc clan from the semi-scrapped adventure game with Thrall called the Lightning's Blade clan.
These crazy mofos would go on top of mountains with their axes and have to be struck by lightning at least three times and survive to be considered warriors. Seems like they'd've been a small clan of elite warriors since few could. . . y'know, survive that rite of initiation.
Just discovered. Liked and sub. Good work, the Warchief will be pleased.
Hey Florian! Thank you very much for the sub :) I appreciate it!
Awesome video, I can tell a lot of effort went into it.
Hey Dusk! Thank you :) glad that you enjoyed it! And your profile pic is very creepy heh