what a fantastically simple solution to something that I have been trying to work out, thank you for taking the time to post this video up, I hope I can pull it off as well as you did
Very nice!! You should patent that, if you haven't thought of that already. You should take requests. 2JZGTE to S6-40 ZF transmission from 89-96 Corvette ZR-1. 😁
Thanks John, even at my age I learn something. I have machined many adaptors and I never thought of Plexiglas and that cuts a lot of measuring time. again thanks sam
Hey STARMAN000001, a GM LS engine connected to a Subaru transmission sounds really cool! The dowel pins on the back of the engine support the torque to the transmission. As a general rule of thumb the aircraft quality plate thickness should be near the length of the exposed end of the dowel pins. The plate must also be thick enough for the recessed fasteners to be flush with the plate. In this video the countersunk allen fasteners need to be flush. You can look up the head recess dimensions for the fasteners that you plan to use. It is best to purchase the fasteners first and measure them because they sometimes vary from published dimensions. You can use a helicoil with higher grade hardware to step down to a smaller fastener to save space. If you plan to use the plate as a motor mount I would study the design of existing aftermarket motor mounting plates from the drag racing world to get an idea of the required thickness for the torque that you plan to generate.
Rob James from a practical aspect of things it’s definitely not cool. However the cool factor is why people do things like a GM LS to Subaru transmission. To have GM V8 power in a small AWD platform that a lot of fun driving right there. You don’t adapt things that weren’t designed for each other for any reason other than because you want to and have the will power to make it work. Us gearheads like to frankenstein things. Lol
John Broderick, YOU are a patient man ! One question please - I was surprised you didn't have to install a spacer between the engine and flywheel to ensure proper contact between the input shaft splines and the clutch. Was the replacement engine's crankshaft a bit longer than the original? Just curious.
Good question MyMIXmedia!!I lengthened the clutch actuator rod slightly more than the thickness of the adapter plate. This is shown at 8:50 in the video: ruclips.net/video/VuprPEhF2Ic/видео.htmlm49s
A nice piece of Kit Mate. I take my Hat off to you :-). The only thing that i didn't like is where you had to cut the Starter to accept a Slave Cylinder even still what you done was very clever. It's a shame that you couldn't use a Cable Clutch but that would have been difficult on a Mid Engined Car.
Some excellent engineering going on here! Very well thought out and executed. Just curious why you didn't source a 1NZ bell housing instead? I've got a MK1 MR2 that is slated for a 1NZ swap as well and it can be done by just putting an xA/xB bell housing on the MR2 gearbox. I'm also working with a group of Yaris owners that are swapping in 2ZR motors and starting to experiment with a C60 swap. The plan is to use a Yaris/xD bell housing to mate it to the 2ZR (which also bolts directly to the Yaris C50 gearbox).
How does the transmission handle the added spacing between it and the engine? Are there any dangers of damage to parts if the spacing is to wide between them?
+Aaron Smith i would assume there would be less contact on the input splines on the gearbox which would mean there is a possibility of them stripping. i wouldn't know though, i have never done an engine swap.
So the "studs" just screw into the plate itself one one side and then extend through the bellhousing or block (depending on the side) and take a nut? So it is just threads holding it into the plate side (rather than a bolt or screw head)? How thick is the adapter plate?
Are you using your stock transmission? If yes, how would that outline you've drawn on the glass, from the transmission fit properly in the engine side?
so, after having run this setup and i'm assuming no vibrations, was there some decision made over how thick spacer you were going to need, I want to mate a LS GM engine to a SUBARU transmission. I would like to hear input on thickness of the adapter
Learned a lot on your video great job.just have question I have a rail buggy I'm using the vw transmission but I want to put a rotary engine on it.the spacer costs me 600 bucks.how thick of a spacer you recomend.?
Thanks Euan! In this case the starter is on the engine side of the adapter. The flywheel has not moved in relation to the engine nor has the starter. The starter drive engagement depth is the same as original. The change occurs at the transmission input shaft as it penetrates the clutch disc. The original setup over-penetrated the clutch disc so no problem here either. If there is a problem with your setup you may be able to machine the starter or bellhousing to change starter motor throw.
John Broderick cheers, I thought about it when I went to bed and realised that was probably the answer but I didn't look at the detail hard enough in the pics. Thanks for pre-empting my next question too (input shaft penetration). I like how you did this. I can think of easy ways to pic up the dowel pin locations with a milling machine but free hand?? That is some effort. I 'd like to mate a Honda k20 up to the getrag in my bmw (one day) so cool to see how you did this. thanks. t
Nice information but isn't the 1nz a lower horse power and slower engine then the 1zz? Why didn't you just put the camery v6 instead :p More Power and more reliability over the 1zz
thanks bud ill use you method n weld extra meat n bolt holes area may more likely tig in to housing oh ill be doing a turbo n rwd application not decided on engine yet mostly probably a 5mge n 6 spped nissan tranns.. God bless Jesus name
I have a question: Is it possible to adapt a prius 04 transmission onto a corolla 04? Given the fact that a prius engine uses the Atkinson cycle rather than a conventional Otto cycle that a corolla's engine uses.
was there a reason you didn't use the c54 (i'm guessing) transmission out of the echo that you took the engine from? wouldn't that be a much easier solution, i'm not sure if the cv shafts fit in though...
Hey Cory Great Question!!! The c54 might work and would probably be less hassle. The reason I built the adapter is that I had a freshly rebuilt custom Celica C6x 6-Speed with a Quaife Limited slip diff and I wanted to keep that transmission.
i'm trying to search various forums, can't you use the bellhousing/differential section on any 'C' transmission - then you could just remove the section off the echo trans, and use it for the mr2 trans. i asked same question on spyderchat
@@corybutterwick5445 yes ,you can do that ,only thing that you need to check is the bearing bushing,most of the time you just need to change the bearing on the diff ,and thats it ,the cool thing about toyota gearboxes is that the bolt holes line up between all c gearboxes and some E gearboxes
Hi jb! Could this engine swap be done with the 1ND-TV engine! A turbo diesel would be an interesting swap! As both these engine were used in the Echo and Yaris! Maybe problems with the ecu? thanks Barry
It's actually called the input shaft and generally the issue is the input shaft of the tranny doesn't reach the pilot bearing. So usually there is either a custom flywheel made that would basically be thicker by the amount of the adapter plate. or if the splines on the input shaft are long enough to still go all the way through the clutch disc you can just have a thicker pilot bushing made so the input shaft goes into the pilot bearing.
what a fantastically simple solution to something that I have been trying to work out, thank you for taking the time to post this video up, I hope I can pull it off as well as you did
This video was such a great help with my build cheers mate for saving me a bunch of money and time
Very nice!! You should patent that, if you haven't thought of that already. You should take requests. 2JZGTE to S6-40 ZF transmission from 89-96 Corvette ZR-1. 😁
Thanks John, even at my age I learn something. I have machined many adaptors
and I never thought of Plexiglas and that cuts a lot of measuring time.
again thanks sam
my engine injectors give more patrol, to the engine
Thanks john . Very helpful video.
Great video man exactly what I was looking for! I’m fitting a lq4 engine in my Jeep Wrangler!
Thanks for commenting PotatoManGames!! You have an exciting exciting project!!! I miss my Jeep!! I'm glad the video is a help to you.
Nice intelligent work illustrated well in this clear and intelligent video commentary.
Dang, John, that's outstanding work!!
Hey STARMAN000001, a GM LS engine connected to a Subaru transmission sounds really cool! The dowel pins on the back of the engine support the torque to the transmission. As a general rule of thumb the aircraft quality plate thickness should be near the length of the exposed end of the dowel pins. The plate must also be thick enough for the recessed fasteners to be flush with the plate. In this video the countersunk allen fasteners need to be flush. You can look up the head recess dimensions for the fasteners that you plan to use. It is best to purchase the fasteners first and measure them because they sometimes vary from published dimensions. You can use a helicoil with higher grade hardware to step down to a smaller fastener to save space. If you plan to use the plate as a motor mount I would study the design of existing aftermarket motor mounting plates from the drag racing world to get an idea of the required thickness for the torque that you plan to generate.
Rob James from a practical aspect of things it’s definitely not cool. However the cool factor is why people do things like a GM LS to Subaru transmission. To have GM V8 power in a small AWD platform that a lot of fun driving right there. You don’t adapt things that weren’t designed for each other for any reason other than because you want to and have the will power to make it work. Us gearheads like to frankenstein things. Lol
some subaru transmissions are hot garbage. i would know; i blew up probably 3 or 4 of them with only 270 whp.
John Broderick, YOU are a patient man !
One question please - I was surprised you didn't have to install a spacer between the engine and flywheel to ensure proper contact between the input shaft splines and the clutch. Was the replacement engine's crankshaft a bit longer than the original?
Just curious.
how do you get the clutch to work when the whole gearbox is back the thickness of the adapter plate???
Good question MyMIXmedia!!I lengthened the clutch actuator rod slightly more than the thickness of the adapter plate. This is shown at 8:50 in the video: ruclips.net/video/VuprPEhF2Ic/видео.htmlm49s
A nice piece of Kit Mate. I take my Hat off to you :-). The only thing that i didn't like is where you had to cut the Starter to accept a Slave Cylinder even still what you done was very clever. It's a shame that you couldn't use a Cable Clutch but that would have been difficult on a Mid Engined Car.
Hi man tnx!! Now isn't there A GAP between the gearbox and engine cause by that wonderful plate?
Some excellent engineering going on here! Very well thought out and executed.
Just curious why you didn't source a 1NZ bell housing instead? I've got a MK1 MR2 that is slated for a 1NZ swap as well and it can be done by just putting an xA/xB bell housing on the MR2 gearbox. I'm also working with a group of Yaris owners that are swapping in 2ZR motors and starting to experiment with a C60 swap. The plan is to use a Yaris/xD bell housing to mate it to the 2ZR (which also bolts directly to the Yaris C50 gearbox).
How does the transmission handle the added spacing between it and the engine? Are there any dangers of damage to parts if the spacing is to wide between them?
+Aaron Smith i would assume there would be less contact on the input splines on the gearbox which would mean there is a possibility of them stripping. i wouldn't know though, i have never done an engine swap.
Nice job man
Thanks Jose!!
So the "studs" just screw into the plate itself one one side and then extend through the bellhousing or block (depending on the side) and take a nut? So it is just threads holding it into the plate side (rather than a bolt or screw head)? How thick is the adapter plate?
Good idea using a 2 piece adaptor plate
Hello,
I have a 1987 Mazda Rx7 gxl; I would like to convert it in a V8. Can I make the conversion without changing the rear end?
Thanks for the video very informative.
Are you using your stock transmission? If yes, how would that outline you've drawn on the glass, from the transmission fit properly in the engine side?
so, after having run this setup and i'm assuming no vibrations, was there some decision made over how thick spacer you were going to need, I want to mate a LS GM engine to a SUBARU transmission. I would like to hear input on thickness of the adapter
Learned a lot on your video great job.just have question I have a rail buggy I'm using the vw transmission but I want to put a rotary engine on it.the spacer costs me 600 bucks.how thick of a spacer you recomend.?
That's good and everything but where did you get all your tools?
How much runout did you end up with?
Great job
Nice video bro
How's that holding up?
Awesome man!
Very cool!
did you make a thicker pilot bearing so the input shaft would reach?
Good question. The Toyota transmission that I used has no pilot bearing or bushing.
How thick is that aluminum and how much did you pay for it?
Nice work. What did you do to extend the starter motor throw?
Thanks Euan! In this case the starter is on the engine side of the adapter. The flywheel has not moved in relation to the engine nor has the starter. The starter drive engagement depth is the same as original. The change occurs at the transmission input shaft as it penetrates the clutch disc. The original setup over-penetrated the clutch disc so no problem here either. If there is a problem with your setup you may be able to machine the starter or bellhousing to change starter motor throw.
John Broderick cheers, I thought about it when I went to bed and realised that was probably the answer but I didn't look at the detail hard enough in the pics. Thanks for pre-empting my next question too (input shaft penetration). I like how you did this. I can think of easy ways to pic up the dowel pin locations with a milling machine but free hand?? That is some effort. I 'd like to mate a Honda k20 up to the getrag in my bmw (one day) so cool to see how you did this. thanks.
t
well illustrated, good video. what where the causes of the engine failures of your 1ZZ's?
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@@alamgeerhuasain7838 good for you
Nice information but isn't the 1nz a lower horse power and slower engine then the 1zz? Why didn't you just put the camery v6 instead :p More Power and more reliability over the 1zz
thanks bud ill use you method n weld extra meat n bolt holes area may more likely tig in to housing oh ill be doing a turbo n rwd application not decided on engine yet mostly probably a 5mge n 6 spped nissan tranns.. God bless Jesus name
The fastest way was swapping bellhousing over from echo gearbox to yours
The engine moves forward. Leaving the output shaft in it's original position.
I have a question: Is it possible to adapt a prius 04 transmission onto a corolla 04? Given the fact that a prius engine uses the Atkinson cycle rather than a conventional Otto cycle that a corolla's engine uses.
that would be very surprising if it did, as everything on a Prius seems to be different
was there a reason you didn't use the c54 (i'm guessing) transmission out of the echo that you took the engine from? wouldn't that be a much easier solution, i'm not sure if the cv shafts fit in though...
Hey Cory Great Question!!! The c54 might work and would probably be less hassle. The reason I built the adapter is that I had a freshly rebuilt custom Celica C6x 6-Speed with a Quaife Limited slip diff and I wanted to keep that transmission.
i'm trying to search various forums, can't you use the bellhousing/differential section on any 'C' transmission - then you could just remove the section off the echo trans, and use it for the mr2 trans. i asked same question on spyderchat
@@corybutterwick5445 yes ,you can do that ,only thing that you need to check is the bearing bushing,most of the time you just need to change the bearing on the diff ,and thats it ,the cool thing about toyota gearboxes is that the bolt holes line up between all c gearboxes and some E gearboxes
Hi jb! Could this engine swap be done with the 1ND-TV engine! A turbo diesel would be an interesting swap! As both these engine were used in the Echo and Yaris! Maybe problems with the ecu? thanks Barry
nice
nice job ....but why a smaller engine?
I'm even more confused now.
I CHANGED THE MOTOR FROM MY HUNDAY SONATA AND I REPLACE WITH MITSUBISHI 2,0 EVERTHING FIX THE SAME
Rey Sanchez video???
What about the output shaft on the transmission? I never understood how plates didn't cause spacing issues.
It's actually called the input shaft and generally the issue is the input shaft of the tranny doesn't reach the pilot bearing. So usually there is either a custom flywheel made that would basically be thicker by the amount of the adapter plate. or if the splines on the input shaft are long enough to still go all the way through the clutch disc you can just have a thicker pilot bushing made so the input shaft goes into the pilot bearing.
Great job figuring out the adopter plate but i think your just asking for problems later on down the road.
You should make planes and sell them on internet
1ZZ & 2ZZ engines suck.., nice work
or just swap the bell housing
Ditto eng83b.
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Probably ought to just buy American ....