Who Are The Easterlings? And Why Are They Evil? | Middle-Earth Lore
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A faceless enemy is always the best enemy for storytelling. However, Tolkien often went out of his way to make it clear that the Orcs hated their masters. Sauron and the Nazgul were overlords who used them as fodder and they knew it. Surely the Easterling's thoughts were similar. The Númenóreans also lorded it over them and made them pay tribute to them.
it was the haradrim in the south who were lorded over by numenor, not the east?
Maybe they wrote a book for the Easterling to follow in the ideology of a warlord?
They worshipped sauron and morgoth as gods didn't they?
Tolkien never mentions the Numenoreans going as far as Rhun.
My perspective on the Easterlings is best surmised by Galadriel in Peter Jackson's trilogy "But the hearts of Men are easily corrupted". The influence of the rings led to the Nazgul but that pales in comparison to how much the Easterlings were subjugated and influenced by Melkor and then by Sauron. I don't think they stood a chance. So I do not think they were evil. If all you have know is pain, then pain you will dispense.
And it didn't help that the Valar forsook them because some of them fought for Morgoth. And then they learnt that the Numenoreans that became opressors were favored by the Valar, were given larger lifespans and even a continent for them alone.
Hurt people HURT PEEPUL!
You guyz.
The Men of Darkness as explained in this text:
"Faramir gives a brief account of the contemporary classification in Gondor of Men into three kinds: High Men, or Numenoreans (of more or less pure descent); Middle Men; and Men of Darkness. The Men of Darkness was a general term applied to all those who were hostile to the Kingdoms, and who were (or appeared in Gondor to be) moved by something more than human greed for conquest and plunder, a fanatical hatred of the High Men and their allies as enemies of their gods. The terms took no account of race or culture or language. With regard to the Middle Men Faramir spoke mainly of the Rohirrim, the only people of this sort well-known in Gondor in his time, and attributed to them actual direct descent from the Folk of Hador in the First Age....
The term Middle Men, however, was of ancient origin. It was devised in the Second Age by the Numenoreans when they began to establish havens and settlements on the western shores of Middle-earth. It arose among the settlers in the North (between Pelargir and the Gulf of Lune), in the time of Ar-Adunakhor; for the settlers in this region had refused to join in the rebellion against the Valar, and were strengthened by many Faithful who fled from persecution by him and the later Kings of Numenor....
In the days of the earlier settlements of Numenor there were many Men of different kinds in Eriador and Rhovanion; but for the most part they dwelt far from the coasts. ... it was long before the Numenorean settlers ventured north of their great haven at Pelargir and made contact with Men who dwelt in the valleys on either side of the White Mountains. Their term Middle Men was thus originally applied to Men of Eriador, the most westerly of Mankind in the Second Age and known to the Elves of Gil-galad's realm. At theat time there were many men in Eriador, mainly, it would seem, in origin kin of the folk of Beor, though some were kin to the Folk of Hador...
Thuis it came about that the Numenorean term Middle Men was confused in its application. Its chief test was friendliness towards the West (to Elves and to Numenoreans), but it was actyually applied usually only to Men whose stature and looks were similar to those of the Numenoreans, although this most important distinction of 'friendliness' was not historically confined to peoples of one racial kind. It was a mark of all kinds of Men who were descendants of those who had abjured the Shadow of Morgoth and his servants and wandered westward to escape it - and certainly included both the races of small stature, Drugs and Hobbits. Also it must be said that 'unfriendliness' to the Numenoreans and their allies was not always due to the Shadow, but in later days to the actions of the Numenoreans themselves. Thus many of the forest-dwellers of the shorelands south of the Ered Luin, especially in Minhiriath, were as later historians recognized kin of the Folk of Haleth; but they became bitter enemies of the Numenoreans, because of their ruthless treatment and their devastation of their forests, and this hatred remained unappeased in their descendants, causing them to join with any enemies of Numenor. In the Third Age their survivors were the people known in Rohan as the Dunlendings."
@@fantasywind3923 very good . That about sums it up .
@lisboah The Valar don't meddle too much with Men, not after the results of their more direct meddling with the Elves. Those Men weren't abandoned in the way you assert, the Valar were simply resigned to leave them to their own devices, to their own choices, and the consequences that result from them.
Also i think we have to remember that all humans can get corrupted to the power of Sauron. Even the noble Numenoreans were corrupted. It would have been even harder to resist him for the Easterlings and Haradrim because they were so close to him. It's possible that some had tried to resist but got beaten and enslaved. While those that served Sauron were rewarded.
These profiles are so appreciated. They add more depth to the legendarium and pull together a lot of information that I miss in the texts. Thanks!
We know how Sauron went about pushing Numenor off the edge into ruin. Brutal persecution of those who oppose him, rewarding brutality in his service. I can only imagine with the longer period of time and control how more brutal, atrocious, and corrupting Sauron was to the Easterlings.
IIRC not all Easterlings supported Sauron? And one theory was that the Blue Wizards were partially responsible for preventing Sauron from getting all the Easterlings to support him?
It's possible the Blue Wizards went even further east, i.e. the far far east and guided cultures of men there.
Since they appeared outside the black gate, they have been my absolute favorite middle-earth team 😀
Their armor is just so freaking cool^^
Was sad not to see a great force fighting (even though that might have been for the best since they would have lost anyway)😅
I think the ancient Easterlings were different to the Easternlings from the third age, who came from the east of Mordor and Gondor. Maybe they were distantly related but in the first age these were men who came from the east of Belieriand. Which means they might have been from the territories of the Forodwaith. The lossoth of the second and third age could be their descendants.
Agree! Best armour and weapon design in the movies imo. Didn't get to see them enough!
It needs to be clarified: the Easterlings of the First Age are *not* the same people as those of the Third Age. The Easterlings of the First Age are akin to the Bree folk or possibly Dunlendings. All Men awakened in the East, but the Easterlings who came into Beleriand were living in Eriador before they came into conflict with the Noldor and the rest of the Edain. The later "Easterlings" of the Second and Third Age were a diverse people who lived in Rhun.
What-if video idea for you to do:
What if Gandalf never fell at the Bridge of Khazad-dum and continued with the fellowship to Lothlorien and on forward?
they have the coolest armor :) also cant wait for Lotro to one day make a Rhun expansion.
They were not evil, but decieved.
There was an evil elite. They refused to run with the others and fought to their deaths immediately after the Ring was destroyed.
The Easterlings being evil was mostly a tragic tale of neglect, corruption and a bit of bigotry. Had the Valar paid more attention to the race of Men, the Easterlings migh have never become allies to both Morgoth and Sauron.
There was that part of the Silmarillion where it says that the men who forsook the call of the Valar were left with the demons of Morgoth. That always felt so wrong to me. Imagine the thousands of years of suffering, generation after generation, because of the decision of their ancestors to fight for the only God they had ever known, good or evil. The Valar have a lot to answer for imo
@@owenb8636 this is actually more complex, the Valar cannot force the Men into their service or meddle with them too much...in any case this subtler approach with Men is their way of fixing things, with the Elves the Valar became almost too meddlesome, the mistakes with the Elves is that they were too involved in their affairs, so they left more freedom to the Men, but they didn't left them completely:
" To Hildórien there came no Vala to guide Men, or to summon them to dwell in Valinor; and Men have feared the Valar, rather than loved them, and have not understood the purposes of the Powers, being at variance with them, and at strife with the world. Ulmo nonetheless took thought for them, aiding the counsel and will of Manwë; and
his messages came often to them by stream and flood. But they have not skill in such matters, and still less had they in those days before they had mingled with the Elves. Therefore they loved the waters, and their hearts were stirred, but they understood not the messages. Yet it is told that ere long they met Dark Elves in many places, and were befriended by them; and Men became the companions and disciples in their childhood of these ancient folk, wanderers of the Elvenrace who never set out upon the paths to Valinor, and knew of the Valar only as a rumour and a distant name."
Men have free will and the Valar cannot do more to sway them, if the Men reject the Valar there is nothing else they can do it is their job to leave the mortals free.
" The office of the Elder King was to retain all his subjects in the allegiance of Eru, or to bring them back to it, and in that allegiance to leave them free."
The Valar send the emissaries in form of the Ithryn Luin, the Blue Wizards send into east and south to stir rebellion against the influence of Sauron. Easterlings of Bór remained faithful to the Eldar during their alliance for the League of Maedhros, but the others were traitors. For the sake of the Men also the Valar have not used their destructive power:
"These things the Valar did, recalling in their twilight the darkness of the lands of Arda; and they resolved now to illumine Middle-earth and with light to hinder the deeds of Melkor. For they remembered the Avari that remained by the waters of their awakening, and they did not utterly forsake the Noldor in exile; and Manwë knew also that the hour of the coming of Men was drawn nigh. And it is said indeed that, even as the Valar made war upon Melkor for the sake of the Quendi, so now for that time they forbore for the sake of the Hildor, the Aftercomers, the younger Children of Ilúvatar. For so grievous had been the hurts of Middle-earth in the war upon Utumno that the Valar feared lest even worse should now befall; whereas the Hildor should be mortal, and weaker than the Quendi to withstand fear and tumult. Moreover it was not revealed to Manwë where the beginning of Men should be, north, south, or east. Therefore the Valar sent forth light, but made strong the land of their dwelling."
They suppose to represent middle Eastern 😑😑😑😑
@@jonathanzentelin2815 the fact nothing is known of the whereabouts of the Blue Mages could be interpreted in any ways ranging from "failed completely" to "achieved some objectives" as it's unknown what kind of Easterling nations live far beyond the Rhun and if all of them answered to Sauron's call for war.
@@mgeldarion58 the writings of Tolkien hint at two possibilities, of course depending also on the stage of development of his legendarium:
"[of] the Blue little was known in the west [of Middle-earth], and they had no names save Ithryn Luin 'the Blue Wizards'; for they traveled to the east with Curun'r, but they never returned; and whether they remaine in the East, pursuing there the purposes for which they sent; or perished; or as some hold were ensnared by Sauron and became his servants it is not now known. But none of these chances were impossible to be." The Unfinished Tales
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"I really do not know anything clearly about the other two - since they do not concern the history of the N.W. I think that they went as emissaries to distant regions, East and South, far out of Numenorean range: missionaries to 'enemy-occupied' lands, as it were. What success they had I do not know; but I fear that they failed, as Saruman did, though doubtless in different ways; and I suspect they were founders or beginners of secret cults and 'magic' traditions that outlasted the fall of Sauron." Tolkien letters
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“The ‘other two’ came much earlier, at the same time probably as Glorfindel, when matters became very dangerous in the Second Age. Glorfindel was sent to aid Elrond and was (though not yet said) pre-eminent in the war in Eriador. But the other two Istari were sent for a different purpose. Morinehtar and Romestamo - Darkness-slayer and East-helper. Their task was to circumvent Sauron: to bring help to the few tribes of Men that had rebelled from Melkor-worship, to stir-up rebellion … and after his first fall to search out his hiding (in which they failed) and to cause dissension and disarray among the dark East … They must have had very great influence on the history of the Second Age and Third Age in weakening and disarraying the forces of the East … who would both in the Second and Third Age otherwise have … outnumbered the West.” The Peoples of Middle-earth, HoME12
is it just me, or in the PJ movie, the Easterlings are coming from the south in relation to the black gate?
YES!! I always assumed they were haradrim because it makes no sense for them to come from the West like they just turned the corner of the mountains from a southward track. Makes no sense. There was a road running directly east from the Morannon. No reason to make a roundabout.
Always reminded me of the Middle East. Their design, the colors, dark eyes and swords 🗡️ very Arabian inspired.
They were actually designed with both attributes of the Middle East and the oriental east.
@@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462 which made me sad i love this universe but yet you can say it has racist elements (mind you im against those who claim racism without evidence Aka woke ppl) but why is it that at the begining of this Video literally the eastern men are backward and evil and not good or free as western men???
Persian, not arab
@@vuau1717JKKq Persian/arab/middle eastern inspired… that’s what I mean.
@@since2133 conflating arabs and persians together is like conflating swedes and russians or british and french. Doesnt really make sense. Theyre very different.
The most well known kingdoms of men were Numenor, their descendants, Rohan and I suppose Dale and Laketown. Apart from those, are there any other kingdoms of Men who weren't evil. All you hear from the second age is Numenor. Were the rest of them evil?
I think it was implied that not all of them are evil. I just wish that Tolkien explored the eastern parts more. It would've been interesting to see how good Easterlings (like Bor) would've contended with those who fell to Sauron's influence, like an underground resistance movement against Sauron of some sorts.
There are definite parallels between the Easterlings and the empires of Persia (viewed from the Roman perspective, of course).
Mysterious men who thunder across the Eastern borders of the Empire, worshipping their god-king and laying waste to the civilized world, but always getting repelled or fought to a standstill by great heroic rulers of the Empire. Even so, their threat always remains, an eternal adversary to the Western kingdoms, waiting for the chance to bring down the proud walls of the eternal cities now defended by lesser men than their founders.
From their point of view, the Westrons were evil!
All seriousness, I could see the Easterlings, and the Haradrim for that matter, being among the more enthusiastic or zealous of Sauron's servants. We know that in the early Second Age, Sauron did genuine good in an attempt to redeem himself in the eyes of the Valar. We also know Sauron's idea of good was encapsulated by an orderly, materially prosperous industrial society.
Further, Tolkien said that Sauron, in the beginning, was greatly concerned with the *material* well-being of his subjects.
It's entirely possible that the Haradrim and the Easterlings viewed Sauron as a kind of benevolent, angelic Prometheus-like figure; a bringer of knowledge and craft, a teacher of building and making and growing who gave them the tools to defend themselves against the depredations of the 'evil' Numenoreans.
Tolkien said that it was Sauron's desire to be seen as a god-king, and that his obsessive desire in the beginning was an orderly world free of chaos, suffering and strife.
It makes sense that Sauron, before he fell fully to evil, would have uplifted primitive and desperate people, and so gained the worship and adulation he desired from his subjects.
Being so completely indebted and in awe of Sauron, it would have been simple to manipulate them into crusading on his behalf. After all, if he had done so very much for them, how could he be evil? By the time he had fallen fully into the depths of his evil after the downfall of Numenor, Sauron would have been so greatly ingrained as a benevolent god-emperor in their culture that the concept of him actually *being* evil would have been heretical.
Also, not all gods need to be good. In Abrahamic religions, yes, god is good. But in old pagan religions, you had gods that were worshiped even through they were thought of as evil or gods of something bad. Not because the people were bad, but because those gods represented some important aspect to their culture and not worshiping them meant bad luck or divine retribution.
In this case, if they saw Sauron as a god of order and creation (he was the Maia of Aule after all), him being evil would not change much.
It goes the other way around. For example, main gods in ancient Greece and with Slavs were the gods of thunder, Zeus and Perun. They were powerful, but they weren't good strictly speaking. There is nothing good in thunder and storm, only bad actually, but people respected the power behind those aspects.
Not to mention the more mundane examples of people worshiping humans that are evil, while they themselves are not, when you get to their core.
It is not a clear cut good vs evil, or evil just corrupting and turning others into evil as well. There is more nuance in the whole story. Does not make the task of defeating Sauron any less important and saying "Well, maybe he isn't that bad", no, absolutely not. You can still recognize and respect the complexity instead of a clear cut and absolute division - and still be adamant in your resolve about defeating it. Simply because he is YOUR enemy. Your drive to defeat them rest solely on that, not their qualities or flaws.
“He was less swift than we had hoped to teach us how to find, or to make for ourselves, the things that we desired, though he had awakened many desires in our hearts. But if any doubted or were impatient, he would bring and set before us all that we wished for. 'I am the Giver of Gifts,' he said; 'and the gifts shall never fail as long as ye trust me.'
Therefore we revered him, and we were enthralled by him; and we depended upon his gifts, fearing to return to a life without them that now seemed poor and hard. And we believed all that he taught.”
- HoME X, Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth
This is literally what human might think about having modern life tbh
I've always wondered about the easterlings. Thanks guys
Great video keep up the good work
Nice work dude
It is very sad, how they kept fighting even after the battle was lost. Just to make sure their lands remained free of Gondor conquest.
I always found it interesting how the Rhûnish armor that we see in the movies is essentially a "Cult of the Dragon"-esque armor, because of the influences of both Morgoth and Sauron's Tyrannical corruption of their culture.
I subscribed because your community is called the Brohirrim and thats too glorious
I like them, they're one of my favourite factions, would have liked to see more of them in the films and I'd like to see how they fair against Dwarves or Elves rather than just pitted against Humans, maybe even fighting Orcs.
Peter Jackson and his crew went OTT with the excessive amount of spikes and blades on the Easterlings' equipment. If they had toned it down to about 1/2 or 1/3, then they could have been pretty decent looking, but as it is, they're a bit of a joke 'cause the would have kept getting caught on stuff.
This is where the lord of the rings series should’ve been but no….. they gave us fan fiction
Thanks for another good video
Thank you for watching 😁
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Great content
Thank you 😁
I loved this video, peter jackson also did a very good job with how they look in the films.
Thanks for the vid!
Honestly, I think that this area (the East) is the most underdeveloped and ripe for expansion/development by studios that there is. The "map" of Middle Earth is largely unexplored- go to it! Make us content!
Keep up the good work 👍
Ever since I saw that scene in two towers as a kid, I've wanted their armour, their shields and spears simply because it looks amazing.
Might make for an interesting series focusing on Easterlings and/or Harad if done with some nuance showing how they're not really villains, just misunderstood.
I thought the same! Though, it may be a bit difficult to navigate the skin tone of the people and the negative annotation that may bring.
@@moss830 That's why Peter Jackson put masks on them, to hide their faces. But historically on Earth, the peoples of the East were long enemies of the men of the West, and tried to put an end to us many times. Ghenghis Khan, Atillia the Hun, Saladin, Abd al-Rahman al-Ghafiqi, Grand Vizier Kara Mustafa Pasha, the list goes on.
@@moss830 as long they bring middle eastern ppl as actors for them im fine but most likely they going to blkwashing it even tho we all know these eastern men are most likely middle eastern influenced
Didn't Aragorn make peace with them after Sauron was defeated?
He led many military campaigns against them and Eomer brought the Rohirrim with them. He subjugated them.
@@jonathonfrazier6622 Eomer had to ride out with his men until he become old in years, so I would say the wars went on for at least 25-30 years or even more. And I could imagine that some of them who finally bow towards to Gondor under pressure did hide their hate and kept whispers of their old master and the old hate alive. Such things did die hard, and I have doubt that the Gondorians were always just rulers.
In the video Battle For Middle Earth 2, for the custom hero you can create, I always made an Easterling with their cool ass armor.
All men who never had contact with the Elves fell under Sauron's sway.
You mean the Eldar in particular? They were certainly familiar enough with Avari.
You mean the Eldar in particular? They were certainly familiar enough with Avari.
They are enamored of the ancient dark knowledge and majesty of Sauron, having forgot their own history and gaining wealth and power under his influence. Their fall is actually pretty understandable, even I feel a strong sense of curiosity towards Sauron, even a bit of empathy and understanding for him too.
As a kid I thought the Easterlings were so cool-looking in the movies. As I dived into Tolkien's lore I've only come to like them more for their obvious nods to the steppe nomads who plagued (and settled in) Medieval Europe.
Does the silmarillion or any other book reference what kind of land the far south edges of harad was? Or what kind of people lived there?
Tolkien didn't refer to them as Men of Khand during the Wainrider war. Not Variags. He only mentions that in Battle of the Pelennor Fields.
I loved their armor tooo, O thhought it was great.
I always thought it was interesting that sauron had sent some orcs to moria at some point. This seems kinda weird to me because I feel like usually he sends a nazgul to do administration. Examples like, Angmar under the witch king. Dol Guldor under kamul for a time I believe. Minis morgul under the witch king. Makes me think, what if sauron had sent a nazgul to Moria at some point? Maybe you could do a video on it Broken👀
Part of the answer you already provided yourself. "He sends a Nazgul to do administration." In the case of Moria, that was not conquered, it was a broken down ruin infested with ancient evils. In so far as it runs, it can kind of run itself. If on the other hand, Sauron wished to access the same earthly treasures as the Dwarves, Sauron would have to deal with the current inhabitants and make them do his bidding. He had better things to do with his time.
@@FrancisFjordCupola I think you're right, but Sauron was collecting as much mithril as he could for a new "body" I think and Moria has mithril. On top of that, if he had created another evil kingdom in Moria like Angmar it could have been useful for his battle plans. They could have caused more trouble for people try to get over the mountains and they could have attacked lothlorien.
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Melkor was a Valar...he was a more powerful being than a Maia...& was a leader to both the Balrogs & Sauron...
The Balrog were Maia...as was Sauron & the wizards.
Sauron didn't have the power to invade the Balrogs territory & force his will...at all...against a Balrog...he wasn't Valar & didn't have that kind of power.
Infact Sauron was weaker than any of the others because he had diminished his power by placing some of it in the ring...which he didn't even have possession of.
But even with his ring he still would have been back up to just as powerful as the others...not more so.
That being said he could gave sent a Nazgul as an emissary...but in & of itself a Nazgul was nothing more than human...corrupted by Sauron & would have needed to be sent as an emissary only (IOW...to plea for a deal with the Balrog...if & only if the Balrog was in any mind to barter)...& not as a power play.
Not only a Nazgul...but all 9 of them (again...still just corrupted humans) would have stood less of a chance against the Balrog than Gandalf did...far less even.
For the record...I think the Nazgul breaking Gandalf's staff was a serious outpoint to the whole concept myself.
Just as Eönwë came among the Edain and laid the foundation of that sophistication of Númenor, Sauron's coming among the eastern human tribes could be said to have evolved them to a level of sophistication that could threaten Gondor. For example, it is possible that Sauron's blacksmith personality had an effect on the eastern people's production of tools of war. For this reason, even though the easterners were primitive human tribes, they were able to reach a certain level of development due to Sauron.
They had already been conquered by Sauron, so calling them evil is misguided.
It's important to remember that the events of The Lord of The Rings are the end of Sauron's attempt to conquer all of Middle-Earth.
The contrast between the people of the West and other areas of Middle-Earth was not one of good versus evil, but one of free and subjugated.
While Sauron was irredeemably evil, it is a mistake to project that onto the people he ruled over.
Their armor was the coolest
These were no orcs, they were men, proud and valiant. They neither gave nor asked quarter in battle.
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Their armour looks like the one used by imperial china. I could be wrong
i always thought mordor was based on ancient china.😂 The way the mountains surrounding mordor were placed are similar to the mountains in Mongolia Tibet and Xinjiang areas surrounding mainland China
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It would be cool for a show about the Two blue wizards trying in vain to steer these people back to the light.
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They were Wain-Riders to.
Does anyone know if sauron was in a physical form in dol guldor
cuz hed been fighting turks in the first world war
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The easterlings are so cool looking and its a shame that we didnt get to se them more in action, i dont think they were truley evil at hearth they are humans with feelings after all, i think the movies portrayed them unfair that they were only soulless villains that didnt have a human side, i think they just had a very torn corrupt culture that had seen to mutch war and little peace, and in order survive and to find glory and riches was to follow a strong leader no matter the cost and Sauron used the easterlings weakness and turst foor power and gold and played on there hate against western culture so that is why so many easterlings followed Sauron because they both loved his effectivness to gain power and riches but i think there were at least 40% of Rhuns people that dissliked the way Sauron did things and what he did was wrong but they were to afraid to speak up against him i think they should had shown that the Rhun and Harad people had a good side to them like having a scene were you see mothers hugging there sons good bye crying before they went to war and the scene were Faramir asks himself (I wonder if he really was evil at hearth, did he have a family waiting foor him) he was just a young soldier following orders in fear foor his family getting punished if he didnt!!🤔😊
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“He was less swift than we had hoped to teach us how to find, or to make for ourselves, the things that we desired, though he had awakened many desires in our hearts. But if any doubted or were impatient, he would bring and set before us all that we wished for. 'I am the Giver of Gifts,' he said; 'and the gifts shall never fail as long as ye trust me.'
Therefore we revered him, and we were enthralled by him; and we depended upon his gifts, fearing to return to a life without them that now seemed poor and hard. And we believed all that he taught.”
- HoME X, Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth
TBH a person may really choose to follow Sauron if the "gifts" are somehow like technology
I think we need to note that Tolkien barely touched the Eastern lands, and they were far more vast , with more races and cultures, than people realise.
I think he also deliberately kept them mysterious (just like our 'East' often was to Europeans) while he focused on a setting that was more Medieval European which was what he was more familiar with and that he'd spent a lot of his life studying.
One must also remember that Numenor pretty much became a full blown Evil Empire back in the day and there were bound to be those who held grudges as a result (and also remember, even Theoden went out of his way to apologise for some pretty nasty stuff his own people - the 'heroic' Rohirrim, who were basically Vikings on horses - had done to another race).
Then you could throw in good old fashioned greed and corruption, conquest and Sauron's habit of duping people in various ways (especially if he convinced them he was a god).
I'm just wondering if the Blue Wizards had completely failed, or if they'd succeeded in limiting Sauron's forces to some extent. .
I'll be honest, I would really like to see an Arabian Nights style adventure about Aragorn and Arwen's kid (complete with his dad's old Ranger sword) set in the Eastern lands.
Why were The Easterlings only in that one scene in ALL of the movies?
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You didn’t really go into the battles with the easterlings in the early 4th age very well.
One of the great tragedies of the movies was how little the Easterlings were used. 😢
Since they weren't a big part of the story, why would they be used more?
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Could Numenor at the height of its powers sent emissaries to the Easterlings? Could they have been taught a different path? Could they have been made a part of the Free peoples?
I don't see any reason why any of the above couldn't have been tried. How much could be achieved in a fight for influence with Sauron is unknown. But a failure to even try is what brought about the wasteful slaughter of uncountable Easterlings.
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Numenor would probably subdue them like they did with dunlandings.
There are lot of reasons not just Sauron these guys Harad and other "Men of Darkness" fought first for Melkor and Then for Sauron.
I loved how cool the Harardrim looked in that burnished armor at the black gate. Didn't totally love the odd tattoos and what not from the oliphant riders. I'd have loved to see that part lessened and seeing their cavalry vs the Rohirrim. It would be cool to see more of them. Parts that fought against Sauron and ultimately lost . The Easterlings came around in the end.
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Nice video! Quick note on pronunciation, though: the "c" in the names of Gondorian kings like Roméndacil, Calmacil or Umbardacil is pronounced with a "k" sound -so Ro-men-da-keel", "Kal-ma-keel", etc.
The portrayal of the Easterlings in the movies was alright (if barely existent, seeing they were almost entirely cut from the Siege of Gondor and only appeared in a few frames), but I was still disappointed there were no long-bearded Variags. Not a big fan of the movie version of the Battle of the Pelennor, and the lack of diversity on the evil side is one of the many reasons why.
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So an easterning was a nazgul? Wish they atleast featured him in lord of the rings movies if uhis 2nd to the witchel king
They seem to be based on the Huns and Mongols.
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The MEN of the East, is it just me or is that Easterling from the film at 0:06 a woman (the 2nd one, or maybe both)?
That may be possible and would even not really contradict the lore. The wainriders were a nation we know about in which women did fight (at least the younger and to defend their villages and land). So if there is force in which women may fight, than the easterling are the one.
@@marcbartuschka6372 if I remember right I was joking about the use of a clip that may show women right as the video maker specified 'men' of the east, lol.
France is sjre having a problem with The Easterlings.
Sarons plan was to rule middle earth not to destroy it
Why are they evil? Have you ever seen easterlings in real life? Pretty sure Tolkien met them and got Inspired to make orcs
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I thought the Blue Wizards weakened the Easterlings by basically missionarying them
I remember in the battle for Middle Earth game the Easterlings were some of the tougher opponents.
I think you know way more about Lord of the Rings than I do....😅probably because I know almost nothing bc I have other things I need to do🤦♀
They're evil because Junior was a tiny bit racist...
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In the Desolation of Mordor DLC for the video game Middle-Earth: Shadow of War, the mercenaries whom the player-character Baranor can hire are Easterlings. These Easterlings are depicted similarly to in the films.d
You got to think of it how JRR Tolkien Saw them he was in the trenches of the German war in his books it depicts every race human race that is that's in the Bible he just adds new versions... I have a small theory which is actually a very large theory that the Lord of the rings was a vision that Tolkien Saw and wrote down the intricate detail in just The Hobbit and the Lord of the rings shows so much depth that anybody that's read it can instantly believe that it was real and if you read the Bible it started with Adam and Eve but what came before Adam and Eve was there another time that we don't know about and Tolkien might have saw it because the Lord of the rings essentially depicts the battle between Lucifer and God's army... Very far-fetched but who knows... Like Tolkien said what age was it that middle earth was set in so there's multiple ages what age are we in now? Perhaps the biblical age...
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Sauron was the last bastion of "magic" of the old world. For the elves have left, no great power trully existed. Long gone were the days of dragons, and balrogs, songs of healing. Mortals have taken hold, and their inevitable withering away, withered the foundations of the earth.
Sauron offered the failed kingdoms of men a glimmer of hope. But they rejected mighty defiance, and chose their own demise.
There is no magic. There are no devine miracles of old. Mortals rejected this.
Wainriders indicates they were in chariots.
A wain is a wagon, not a chariot. A covered wagon.
I have always thought they were a sort of stand ins for the early Goths, who were nomadic peoples who based their mobility on wagons. Wain means wagon, henche the trade based surname Wainwright.
To Europeans the greatest threats always came from the East, it's deeply rooted within our mythology. I bet this isn't a coincidence when you look at Tolkien knowledge.
Well, up until fairly recently, there was no other way where it could have come from. Europe is a "peninsula" opened in the east. So any external threat had to come through there by default. But that's EXTERNAL threat. If we talk about THE GREATEST threat for Europe, it ALWAYS came from within Europe itself, from the ancient times to this day.
Glad you clipped the movie bc that’s exactly why I voted haradrim lol the easterlings all look very feminine so if I have to pick one it’s definitely not them
not all of the Easterlings were evil even during the War of the Ring because some followed other cults (probably created by the Blue Wizards) and they were really divided
Anyone who can rock guyliner and eyeshadow like that, can't be called uncivilized.
As we say in Poland: "All bad things come from the east". It is still true to this day and it is the same in Middle Earth it seems.
what you said was racist bc all the bad things exist in West too dont forget world wars happend in the west not east
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Yes, they have this very cool, ancient-Persian, Babylonian and Berber like style, which I like very much. Even the Dwarves of the East looked very Sumerian like. I would love to see them, in non Wokized way! As no-one wants that Woke agenda beeing pressed onwards.
You know... I imagine eastern Dwarves as mixture of Babylonian and Scythian culture. Armours and looks of warriors more like Scythians, you know, tatoos, red beards, black beards, brown beards, scalle and lamellar armour with mail, splinted greaves and wambraces. Even the clothing, the long colorfull Kaftans, like that Scythian raiders, with warhammers in form of gilded beak and small hammer on the other side. Just google up scythian warrior, you will see. But! Their civilian outfit and structures, more of a Babylonian style, ZIkkuratish, long purpurous clothes, beads, hair braids, lot of ornated stuff and bronze, golden and other jewelry. Tall turret hats atc.
Where as Rhun I would Imagine like Peter Jackson did, more like Persian-Armenian with pieces of Byzantine influence. Heavy Cataphracts, colorfull, elites beeing more pale for living in palacess, worshipping dark god in shadows, with distinctly Persian visage. Some even ginger, like Persian mummies of their kings, but others with very dark hair, using dark eyeliners atc. Lamellar armours, scalle armours, those square shields, lot of bronze, scarfs, Chin guards of ancient greek style but with eastern ornated stuff, no mail though, just scalle and lamellas, like in the movie, splinted wambracess, lamellar gloves. They looked great. With the exception of ther Varangians. I like art work about them. How they made them a bit simillar to Scandinavian-Rohirrim like in armour. Those veiled helmets with googles. But with mail shirt and lamellar or scalle armour on top, splinted greaves and wambracess, scalle or lamellar gloves but sheields in tear-drop shape, smaller than Rohirrim "norman" style shields, bit taller than their round shields, you know, to symbolize that Rhun were made out of tribes, and some tribes have this shared origin with Northmen in fact, who have fallen to the power of Morgoth - like when Byzantines hired Scandinavians in to their Varangian guard upon which it is based off. Persian styled cities, you know, like the Lion Gate in Babylon...
And then Harradrim from the south! Those with their Mumakils. I would imagine them too as they were done in the movies. More Desert-Nomad like, turbans, lighter armour, mostly scalle or simple lamellar. Without heavy shoulders and add-ons that Rhun use. More of the Berber styled. With more Arabic or even some African complexions, very dark kind, curved sabres, light and short spears. Where as Rhun use lamellar or scalle clad horses sometimes, these would use light horses, bows... no big cities, more of a small towns made out of tents arround oasis or dirt-mud made hutts. The only higher structures beeing open temples or something. More of that desert nomadic wibe.
What do you think?
It"s pronounced romendakil.
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