Watson acting like friends don’t turn they back on, back stab, cheat, lie etc for money is beyond idiotic. Don’t matter the length or time you have invested in someone. People switch all the time at the expensive of others/friends. The fuck world we live in now where thats not plausible ? Lmfaoo
and it's as simple as that. how come nobody can't understand that joe don't respect the fact that his former rap brothers are dissing him and royce?? he said he would never write lyrics dissing his slaughterhouse brothers. he don't want to support an album that has disses against himself. what the hell is wrong with that??
They didn’t diss him or Royce, they told their truth, meaning they waited 10 years for them two to get onboard. But it never happened, the truth hurts. Joel asked Joe if he would just support them, Joe said SMD. Joe hasn’t truly made sense to me since he went After Method Man, and Raekwon checked him. Plus Joe type shady with Crooked I. Is his rap career over or not!!
@@brentjones7976 first of all..joe didn't tell joell to suck his......he said the album could. it's the same thing if he would have said the album is wack. and you can't tell a person they're not being dissed if that's how they took something crook and joell said as a diss!
@@gaticusx2933 You are correct, I went back and listened again, Joe said “the album could SMD“. Joel‘s reaction made me think he said Joel could SMD. I stand corrected,
All Joe is saying is, if y'all wanted to make an album about anything, do that, but why y'all have to make an album dissing Royce and I if y'all saying you love Royce and I....that's it. Everybody else is ignoring what he is saying, which is ridiculous tbh. Now I see why he feels misunderstood fr fr.
Exactly for some reason Joe can literally be telling the whole truth and folks will choose not to believe it but will believe anyone talkin down on him lol
I just finished watching and I loved the convo and shout out to Watson for keeping it HipHop. When Wats asked Joe if he was going to watch y’all review Crook and Joell’s album I fell out 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don't know what dude didn't understand. Joe said this shit plenty of times. He didn't respect the business. He asked for a business memo, he didn't see one. Royce said the same shit. Quit talking about how ill they are.
Watson need to sit on the pod and have this convo. Btw he and three get all this love I feel like Joe can put them Gentlemen on the JBP branch to talk strictly rap. That would be 🔥🔥🔥
I appreciate where Watson was trying to steer the conversation, but MAN, so many questions still unasked/unaswered by Joe that I would have loved to been addressed. But, I get it... this is PSA [Hip Hop] Reloaded, lol. You gotta talk RAP! 😆
They used the name because the two of them make out 50% of that name, that's their part to own. They used the name because this particular project is a Slaughterhouse related concept. The whole album is them speaking on THEIR perspective of this. They have the right to move on and not be beholden to a thing which never goes anywhere or does anything for them. You gonna lock them up, and also say don't speak on how you feel? Man what rapper does not talk about how they feel and what's going on in their life? So are you saying that they don't decide for themselves whether they want to stay in the situation, they can't leave? And if they can leave, are you saying they can't speak on it? What's even the point of rap if you're not gonna talk about the stuff actually worth talking about. They aren't slandering anyone, they are saying look how we felt, and now we've had enough. We tried talking to you all in private, nothing happened. If nothing happened for 10 years, guess what, nothings gonna happen in 20 years either. It never takes someone 10 years to achieve any kind of action towards a goal. You don't live on hopes and dreams, which is what you do if you think more time would have changed anything. They're getting older as well, you gonna start the new career of the group when, at 60? You gotta realize when people are just stuck in wait mode, part of them gets stuck in life they don't get to move past that and truly live a complete life. Like Crook said it brings me down, low energy, it's not good for him personally. He also tried a lot. Who stays then? It's like a relationship that should've ended 10 years ago and you still waiting. Not to mention you're in this to actually make something, people are not gonna be part of something meant to create and earn a living, and not do that, let's stop playing. At a certain point you quit a job if you don't achieve or earn anything. Now you had your chance to do something with the group, it didn't happen, it's too late to cry now because others want to move on. They have that right, they also have the right to speak on it because rap is all about that.
fuck that they could have just done a couple songs about the situation instead they used the name because that would get more eyes on them its a lazy way to do shit
Watson is such a herb...i never seen anyone ride a D so hard..if joell and Krooked was that nice how come they last 5 solo albums aint pop? We wouldve never known who joell ortiz and crooked I is if it werent for Joe 🤷🏽♂️
Joe's last album was trash n didnt blow so wuts ur point? Last good Joe songs were dem Drake dis songs but Rage n da Machine was not it n da album b4 dat wasn't it
@@daminharris3879 exactly, Joe was still podcasting and had the energy to diss Drake, but didn't have the same energy to collab with his Slaughterhouse brothers or diss EM back?
@@daminharris3879 You tweakin. Rage and the Machine and All Love Lost both raw as hell. All Love Lost classic to me. You letting your hate for Joe cloud your judgement.
@@draenation265 Huh? Nobody liked dem albums buddy yea its a couple cuts on dem albums but overall neitha 1 was good best recent work Joe did was da Drake disses he made but otha den dat Joe's earlier mixtape work is his best Joe's albums were neva great n anybody who knows Joe's catalog wood no dat
The same guy who publicly tore down almost every ex-girlfriend he's ever had in all his past albums and mixtapes now wants to stand on some moral high ground about Joell and Crooked "dissing him for money". Just a few short years ago he was doing the same damn thing, don't get on your high horse now because your situation is different.
One thing out of this that I jumped out of my seat for in joy. When Joe said, "I'm not just gonna sign my name on shit." As an independent artist who owns his masters, I heavily attest to this. PROTECT JOE AT ALL COST SON!
Joe keep talking about money I dont think its about money I think its more about niggaz being tired of not getting traction... Not getting a response... Being pushed to the side... And waiting.... And honestly i dont hear dissing i hear people talking about their experiences... I haven't heard a joe budden diss on any of the songs... YET... And some times conflict is necessary to move things forward... This is actually good in my opinion because this the most attention slaughterhouse has had in ten years... And the most out put to the fans weve gotten in 10 years... And this conversation needs to be had In my community organizing days these are some of the exact tactics that would be used to mobilize around an issue.... And create dialogue around an issue... I think they need to get off zoom now and social media and sit down at a table put your pride and ego and grievances to the side and work this shit out... Because if a slaughter house album were to get announced in a few weeks after ALL of this... It would definitely catch peoples ears.... Especially if this conversation was on the album... Talk about it work that shit out... With everyones individual talents Royce producing you can do the whole album at heaven... Joe has social media on lock... For promotion.... And finances..... And crook and joell can focus strictly on the music... And merchandising handling the ground work where joe and royce dont have to commit large amounts of time doing the whole project and can drop versus... And go about they business.... You dont need a label maybe just for distribution but the way the internet set up now a days do you even need that.... And another point is joe and Royce have been successful outside of slaughter house.... Joell and crook are eating... But not on the same level... I would be upset too if we built something monumental that arguably boosted all of our careers and then off that success 2 members went on to be even more successful and said fuck what we built... Im straight with out it... Not saying thats the case but they need slaughterhouse.... The world deserves it.... And most importantly all the members deserve what it can do for them because as big as joe may think he is... Hes bigger with slaughter house.... Its so many ways that brand can elevate what hes doing and course Correct something's i think rapper joe in tandem with podcast joe is a bigger better machine than podcast joe alone... I think rapper joe is in a perfect position to actually capitalize off rapping now.... And i think rapper joe adds viewers to validates and adds sustainability to podcast joe... Rounds him out and keeps him honest
Slaughterhouse fans will never really know the BUSSINESS end of Slaughterhouse which really is the issue here..... But the easy target is always hate Joe.
Joe has always been a spin artist playing victim. Literally the only time I’ve ever seen him take accountability was when he was on the verge of being “cancelled” for women on his network feeling uncomfortable around him. Joe been Joe’in his whole career. Phenomenal artist, but a narcissistic ego maniac.
I tried saying what Joe is saying .who's bringing the deal , who are they rubbing shoulders with. You can't fault Joe or Royce for protecting themselves. Negotiations behind closed doors separated from the public consumption...
All Joe is saying is that they could’ve done an album together without burning down the Slaughterhouse. Just do an album. Didn’t have to be the “fall” of Slaughterhouse. Idk why ppl don’t get it. But I wish him and Royce would just say it in those words
Joe aired out Shady on his pod, drove ratings for a bag. Same thing. Royce even had to get on his ass about it. For some reason, and it’s prolly because his pod is good, this guy has a plethora of fans (& Stan’s) that forgot how self destructive Joe can be sometimes. I blame SH for all this. A man has 1 time to lie to me about something silly and he’s on the outs. When the deal started bad, and Joe pulled the “I ain’t sign that contract” move… only to have been forensically found to have signed that contract. Wouldn’t have been no damn SH with me in it. Not after 1/4th of the group proved to be shady. Pun intended
Y’all ignoring the point joe is trying to make . They could have made a album without torching the legacy of slaughter house . They could have did a Ortiz feature king crooked album it would have went wood . But they had to burn the pig to make money foh . They foul
@@TheJeremie247 fans have been asking for closure for year's, they wanted to give fans the closure we wanted, the other two think they're to big and entitled to do that, Joell and crook was just as much part of slaughterhouse as the other two 😒
@@Ahijah closure come on bro lol that's a bad excuse that Joelle and crook are putting out there. If all 4 didn't like each other and there's deep issues that caused the break up but it wasnt. On that live with Joelle Royce and Joe...... Joe said he left slaughter house due to bad business at shady joel agreed it was bad business it was that simple. It's not know back stabbing or bad blood in the group that the fans don't know about
@@TheJeremie247 They can't talk about their own lives??? Lol. What did Royce rap about on Book of Ryan? Allegory? What did Joe rap about on Mood Muzik?? Double standards.
The fact that Joe not talkin about music seems like Joell and Crook's whole point 😂🤣😂... From what I can see, Joell and Crook wanted to move on making music together, and Joe didn't have that same fervor. And what do most ppl do when other ppl display a sense of disinterest? They move on, yeah? So Joell and Crook moved on. NOW! The idea that Joell and Crooked I attempted to use the Slaughterhouse name, to put it to bed, to sell a project does seem short sighted.
Yeah they moved on using the group name and brand which Joe and Royce has 50% rights to. So, Joel and Crooked didn’t really move on bc they’ll have to deal w Joe and Royce if it really comes down to it. It’s all about perspective, Joel and Crooked have their perspective and Joe and Royce has theirs and no one is wrong imo.
They used the name because the two of them make out 50% of that name, that's their part to own. They used the name because this particular project is a Slaughterhouse related concept. The whole album is them speaking on THEIR perspective of this. They have the right to move on and not be beholden to a thing which never goes anywhere or does anything for them. You gonna lock them up, and also say don't speak on how you feel? Man what rapper does not talk about how they feel and what's going on in their life? So are you saying that they don't decide for themselves whether they want to stay in the situation, they can't leave? And if they can leave, are you saying they can't speak on it? What's even the point of rap if you're not gonna talk about the stuff actually worth talking about. They aren't slandering anyone, they are saying look how we felt, and now we've had enough. We tried talking to you all in private, nothing happened. If nothing happened for 10 years, guess what, nothings gonna happen in 20 years either. It never takes someone 10 years to achieve any kind of action towards a goal. You don't live on hopes and dreams, which is what you do if you think more time would have changed anything. They're getting older as well, you gonna start the new career of the group when, at 60? You gotta realize when people are just stuck in wait mode, part of them gets stuck in life they don't get to move past that and truly live a complete life. Like Crook said it brings me down, low energy, it's not good for him personally. He also tried a lot. Who stays then? It's like a relationship that should've ended 10 years ago and you still waiting. Not to mention you're in this to actually make something, people are not gonna be part of something meant to create and earn a living, and not do that, let's stop playing. At a certain point you quit a job if you don't achieve or earn anything. Now you had your chance to do something with the group, it didn't happen, it's too late to cry now because others want to move on. They have that right, they also have the right to speak on it because rap is all about that.
@@Dezzyyx if they moved on they would sign their rights to the group over the two members who haven’t moved on…but we know they won’t do that. This was about money and not moving on 🤦🏾♂️
Royce been in all black everything for a while... Joe using the "white man" to represent the system (which is predominately, white) feels exploitative, still... And its clear he's talkin about a specific individual, whoever this Tony dude is 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
Has anyone asked Joe when they were gonna put out music? Did anyone ask why didn’t Joe get the deal? Get a deal with empire? Anywhere? Since it appears the deal has to go thorough him. Why has no one asked this?
@@paulelroy6650 you say corny? Joell is a monster ! The only cornball in the group was budden lol the world can see that, guess you deaf and blind Haha
Here’s what Joe doesn’t understand, the other members wanted to do Slaughterhouse and when they found out it wasn’t going to happen that affected their lives. They have a right to rap about things that affect their lives. Just like Joe rapped his twins . Because that affected him. That’s all they are doing. It wasn’t a diss album . Does the truth paint Joe in a bad light? Yes because he’s a snake.
Its obvious that they dont mess with joe.....the stuff he has done over the years has convinced them that they arent close....duh....and if empire does good business...and u over there...why u not rapping?
In the end after hearing the album this all comes across as a promo run they all in on. It's not like the album is even gear towards dissing Joe/Royce. This narrative that its a album full of Joe slander is bullshit. Honestly wasnt nothing said about Joe that honestly isn't basically public knowledge. I will say Crook/Joell dropping the album without giving Budden/Royce a heads up and using the logo without all 4 consent is foul. But so were Joe's moves that contribute to the split in the 1st place. I get Crook point about Joe not calling him back about the deal and Joes multiple retirement comments. In the end SH been over, it appears official now lets move on.
Also him saying they did this for money is such a fking joke as so to say it’s not about them wanting to do music which is what they love and while telling their story which unfortunately seems disparaging towards him but that doesn’t make it the motive! Joe is a clown as narcissist and has to make everything about himself and even when he acknowledges his faults he always has to justify them some way some how.
Joe and Royce have decided that the group is dead now what's the name of this album...this two gentlemen wanted closure. The group is dead so they didn't have the right to say we gonna tell our truth the best way we know how . Is that wrong?...get the heck out of here
If you are a artist by heart! You can tell Joe's 🔥 is being lit!! He about to come back crazzy! Be ready y'all trust me.. he's a dope track away from blacking out
They have no reason to talk about burying slaughter house if they wanna make an album together more power to them but don’t be talking about Joe and Royce all over the album using slaughterhouse logo talking about telling there truth do that ish on ur own album keep Joe and Royce name out ur mouth u making money using there likeness that’s the business part
@@str8koptv901 Can't tell an emcee who/what *not* to rap about. SH was an impactful part of Crook & Joell's career; so they have every reason & right to rap about *their* life experiences, that's what artists do. And like you said, they actually *are* telling their truth on their own album 'cause this isn't being labeled as a "by Slaughterhouse" project. If they have any credible stake in the actual SH audio/visual content & branding, then they can do as they please with it. And if not, Joe & Royce could just sue and take their cut 🤷🏾♀️
@@MosaicButterfly your absolutely right there free to talk about whatever but it's corny considering it's no real tension or beef because y'all all talked about a deal that was just on the table
@@Mon-zw4ui Can't say there's no real tension, when Crook has talked extensively about the tension between him & Joe. And I guess, at some point, there was tension between Joell & Royce (that may still be unresolved) according to "Backstage". So us fans don't know the actual group dynamic behind closed doors, just the public perception. Just because they were trying to figure out the business end to release "Glasshouse" or whatever the final project was going to be, doesn't mean they were all actually getting along fr, fr 🤷🏾♀️
Joe talking about horrible communication skills but won't call anybody back OR think he owes anyone a phone call. Joe is one of the main ones who made hip hop corny with all the petty beefs and bs. Crook would tear Joe down lyrically
joe has inflated rap career ego almost like Mickey Facts....Joe Budden as a rapper is like bottow shelf stuff. I DONT KNOW OF 2 joe budden songs, i am here to listen to a man help destroy a valuable rap group.
@anthony johnson lol you remind me of hoes on social media that do that petty shit.. of course I know the difference between No and Know...but you go gurrrrrrrrrllllll lol
Not only is Joe a wordsmith, he's a change the narrative smith too. 😂
If Joe Budden really wanted to rap he would rap. Actions speak louder than words.
Salute to Watson for asking real questions and not biting his tongue.. 💯
I like interviews wit Watson... He not scared to ask questions
I love Watson
but afraid to answer questions.
@@rabidtoy2038 🤣
@@rabidtoy2038 facts
Watson the man
Watson acting like friends don’t turn they back on, back stab, cheat, lie etc for money is beyond idiotic. Don’t matter the length or time you have invested in someone. People switch all the time at the expensive of others/friends. The fuck world we live in now where thats not plausible ? Lmfaoo
Joe is saying what Drake said in one of his lines from Aint no tellin
"Please do not talk to me like I'm that Joe from 4yrs ago im at a higher place"
Thinking they lions and tigers and beers I go hunting put heads on my fireplace
Watson was spittin. Bodying Joe
and it's as simple as that. how come nobody can't understand that joe don't respect the fact that his former rap brothers are dissing him and royce?? he said he would never write lyrics dissing his slaughterhouse brothers. he don't want to support an album that has disses against himself. what the hell is wrong with that??
They didn’t diss him or Royce, they told their truth, meaning they waited 10 years for them two to get onboard. But it never happened, the truth hurts. Joel asked Joe if he would just support them, Joe said SMD. Joe hasn’t truly made sense to me since he went After Method Man, and Raekwon checked him. Plus Joe type shady with Crooked I. Is his rap career over or not!!
@@brentjones7976 first of all..joe didn't tell joell to suck his......he said the album could. it's the same thing if he would have said the album is wack. and you can't tell a person they're not being dissed if that's how they took something crook and joell said as a diss!
@@gaticusx2933 You are correct, I went back and listened again, Joe said “the album could SMD“. Joel‘s reaction made me think he said Joel could SMD. I stand corrected,
Shooot, Watson ain't scared for nuffin!!
Respek
I feel so foolish and uneducated my dad had to pull out the dictionary and break down the definition of a diva. It was a picture of Joe Button
I'm with Watson on this one.. Them 2 songs are 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
At the end Watson got the point Joe was trying to make the whole convo lol . It's deeper than rap
All Joe is saying is, if y'all wanted to make an album about anything, do that, but why y'all have to make an album dissing Royce and I if y'all saying you love Royce and I....that's it. Everybody else is ignoring what he is saying, which is ridiculous tbh. Now I see why he feels misunderstood fr fr.
You just as warped as Joe smh
Exactly for some reason Joe can literally be telling the whole truth and folks will choose not to believe it but will believe anyone talkin down on him lol
joe said he retired and dont wanna rap. they giving the fans closure
What diss? They just speaking their truth on what went down with the Slaughterhouse shit.
I completely agree joe is just interested in the business part joe never said that he didn't like the album musically
"Do you speak from any other perspective?"
Joe is so retired he is now just plain tired
I just finished watching and I loved the convo and shout out to Watson for keeping it HipHop. When Wats asked Joe if he was going to watch y’all review Crook and Joell’s album I fell out 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don't know what dude didn't understand. Joe said this shit plenty of times. He didn't respect the business. He asked for a business memo, he didn't see one. Royce said the same shit. Quit talking about how ill they are.
You're the Tip Toe I've seen on Club House?
I love Buddens question to Watson about writing about 3. That's how Joe sees it. This is good stuff 3. #Salute
I watch the twice thank you guys for get conversation🔥🔥🔥 and leave it to Watson to keep it hip hop all the way 🎤💪🏽🔥💯
Watson need to sit on the pod and have this convo. Btw he and three get all this love I feel like Joe can put them Gentlemen on the JBP branch to talk strictly rap. That would be 🔥🔥🔥
I appreciate where Watson was trying to steer the conversation, but MAN, so many questions still unasked/unaswered by Joe that I would have loved to been addressed. But, I get it... this is PSA [Hip Hop] Reloaded, lol. You gotta talk RAP! 😆
they say u cant keep a good guy down. welcome back to the ball game PSA RELOADED.
I Appreciate Asking The Tough Questions Needed To Be Asked From Joe Budden.
If Watson and 3 had ten years of rocky relationship the comparison might have made sense.
I agree.
2 types of black men: One is about business and the other is about games LOL it's a damn shame tbh
Love this convo! Thanks Watson and Three 🙏🏼
They used the name because the two of them make out 50% of that name, that's their part to own. They used the name because this particular project is a Slaughterhouse related concept. The whole album is them speaking on THEIR perspective of this. They have the right to move on and not be beholden to a thing which never goes anywhere or does anything for them. You gonna lock them up, and also say don't speak on how you feel? Man what rapper does not talk about how they feel and what's going on in their life? So are you saying that they don't decide for themselves whether they want to stay in the situation, they can't leave? And if they can leave, are you saying they can't speak on it? What's even the point of rap if you're not gonna talk about the stuff actually worth talking about. They aren't slandering anyone, they are saying look how we felt, and now we've had enough. We tried talking to you all in private, nothing happened. If nothing happened for 10 years, guess what, nothings gonna happen in 20 years either. It never takes someone 10 years to achieve any kind of action towards a goal.
You don't live on hopes and dreams, which is what you do if you think more time would have changed anything. They're getting older as well, you gonna start the new career of the group when, at 60? You gotta realize when people are just stuck in wait mode, part of them gets stuck in life they don't get to move past that and truly live a complete life. Like Crook said it brings me down, low energy, it's not good for him personally. He also tried a lot. Who stays then? It's like a relationship that should've ended 10 years ago and you still waiting. Not to mention you're in this to actually make something, people are not gonna be part of something meant to create and earn a living, and not do that, let's stop playing. At a certain point you quit a job if you don't achieve or earn anything. Now you had your chance to do something with the group, it didn't happen, it's too late to cry now because others want to move on. They have that right, they also have the right to speak on it because rap is all about that.
fuck that they could have just done a couple songs about the situation instead they used the name because that would get more eyes on them its a lazy way to do shit
Favts
Watson pissin me off with how he answering. I understand Joe’s point. Watson is just hearing to rebuttal
The 1/2 SlaughterHouse new album is 🔥 and it sounds like a SlaughterHouse project.
The one problem I have with slaughterhouse as a group was that Joe Budden was part of that group.
Watson is such a herb...i never seen anyone ride a D so hard..if joell and Krooked was that nice how come they last 5 solo albums aint pop? We wouldve never known who joell ortiz and crooked I is if it werent for Joe 🤷🏽♂️
You mad nigga stay mad psa reloaded we talk hiphop over her nigga go watch drink champs to here non hiphop talk
Joe's last album was trash n didnt blow so wuts ur point? Last good Joe songs were dem Drake dis songs but Rage n da Machine was not it n da album b4 dat wasn't it
@@daminharris3879 exactly, Joe was still podcasting and had the energy to diss Drake, but didn't have the same energy to collab with his Slaughterhouse brothers or diss EM back?
@@daminharris3879 You tweakin. Rage and the Machine and All Love Lost both raw as hell. All Love Lost classic to me. You letting your hate for Joe cloud your judgement.
@@draenation265 Huh? Nobody liked dem albums buddy yea its a couple cuts on dem albums but overall neitha 1 was good best recent work Joe did was da Drake disses he made but otha den dat Joe's earlier mixtape work is his best Joe's albums were neva great n anybody who knows Joe's catalog wood no dat
Watson dodged Joe's question because he didn't wanna admit Joe was right.
Watson is the fucking man hahahaha love this.
The same guy who publicly tore down almost every ex-girlfriend he's ever had in all his past albums and mixtapes now wants to stand on some moral high ground about Joell and Crooked "dissing him for money". Just a few short years ago he was doing the same damn thing, don't get on your high horse now because your situation is different.
This is a dude who was on love n hip-hop,so he Is the last one to say anyone doing thing's for money 😌
Great interview! Shout out to my dudes.
Cool Joe be poppin up on your shit 3 salute
"I dont honor contracts" - Joe Budden
Exactly
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Welcome back 3
Damn how did I miss this (goes to connect Bluetooth speaker)
but how can be the business right, when you are not even picking up your phone? Joe a clown
I appreciate what you doin here Watson and 3. This time I can see things a bit clearer from Joe's perspective.
One thing out of this that I jumped out of my seat for in joy. When Joe said, "I'm not just gonna sign my name on shit." As an independent artist who owns his masters, I heavily attest to this. PROTECT JOE AT ALL COST SON!
Joe is such a weirdo lol, big up to Watson!
Joe keep talking about money
I dont think its about money
I think its more about niggaz being tired of not getting traction... Not getting a response... Being pushed to the side... And waiting.... And honestly i dont hear dissing i hear people talking about their experiences... I haven't heard a joe budden diss on any of the songs... YET...
And some times conflict is necessary to move things forward... This is actually good in my opinion because this the most attention slaughterhouse has had in ten years... And the most out put to the fans weve gotten in 10 years... And this conversation needs to be had
In my community organizing days these are some of the exact tactics that would be used to mobilize around an issue.... And create dialogue around an issue... I think they need to get off zoom now and social media and sit down at a table put your pride and ego and grievances to the side and work this shit out...
Because if a slaughter house album were to get announced in a few weeks after ALL of this... It would definitely catch peoples ears.... Especially if this conversation was on the album... Talk about it work that shit out... With everyones individual talents Royce producing you can do the whole album at heaven... Joe has social media on lock... For promotion.... And finances..... And crook and joell can focus strictly on the music... And merchandising handling the ground work where joe and royce dont have to commit large amounts of time doing the whole project and can drop versus... And go about they business.... You dont need a label maybe just for distribution but the way the internet set up now a days do you even need that.... And another point is joe and Royce have been successful outside of slaughter house.... Joell and crook are eating... But not on the same level... I would be upset too if we built something monumental that arguably boosted all of our careers and then off that success 2 members went on to be even more successful and said fuck what we built... Im straight with out it... Not saying thats the case but they need slaughterhouse.... The world deserves it.... And most importantly all the members deserve what it can do for them because as big as joe may think he is... Hes bigger with slaughter house.... Its so many ways that brand can elevate what hes doing and course Correct something's i think rapper joe in tandem with podcast joe is a bigger better machine than podcast joe alone... I think rapper joe is in a perfect position to actually capitalize off rapping now.... And i think rapper joe adds viewers to validates and adds sustainability to podcast joe... Rounds him out and keeps him honest
All I want is bars..
The only one that sees Joe's perspective is Joe.
"I wanna talk about Meg the Stallion & Tory Lanez all day" killed'em and he know it.
Slaughterhouse fans will never really know the BUSSINESS end of Slaughterhouse which really is the issue here..... But the easy target is always hate Joe.
Joe has always been a spin artist playing victim. Literally the only time I’ve ever seen him take accountability was when he was on the verge of being “cancelled” for women on his network feeling uncomfortable around him. Joe been Joe’in his whole career. Phenomenal artist, but a narcissistic ego maniac.
Last time joe and crook was ona bout battling was 3 years.. I still ain’t taking no sides
Watson doesn't answer any questions he argues like My lady does avoids points tries not to understand can't stand men like that
Fuck that it's hiphop over here we don't do tmz
Watson had to be trolling…
Salute Three ✊🏽
I tried saying what Joe is saying .who's bringing the deal , who are they rubbing shoulders with. You can't fault Joe or Royce for protecting themselves. Negotiations behind closed doors separated from the public consumption...
People want joe to be the bad guy so bad lol
All Joe is saying is that they could’ve done an album together without burning down the Slaughterhouse. Just do an album. Didn’t have to be the “fall” of Slaughterhouse. Idk why ppl don’t get it. But I wish him and Royce would just say it in those words
They scared too for some reason
If he didn’t come outside for Em then he’s not coming outside… it’s that simple
Regular Joe >>> Media Joe Blige
How was this hard for Wats to understand...????
Joe is def bugging and insinuating things then trying to act like he ain’t saying that… I see thru the bull
Watson sound like short bus shorty lol
He clearly telling him it’s about the business behind it
And he’s not listening
I`m with Joe. Airing out shit for a bag? Nah b
Joe aired out Shady on his pod, drove ratings for a bag. Same thing. Royce even had to get on his ass about it.
For some reason, and it’s prolly because his pod is good, this guy has a plethora of fans (& Stan’s) that forgot how self destructive Joe can be sometimes.
I blame SH for all this. A man has 1 time to lie to me about something silly and he’s on the outs. When the deal started bad, and Joe pulled the “I ain’t sign that contract” move… only to have been forensically found to have signed that contract.
Wouldn’t have been no damn SH with me in it. Not after 1/4th of the group proved to be shady. Pun intended
@@TeezyfolKKz Joe having beef with em and airing out shit is different than doing the same with ur homeboys...
Y’all ignoring the point joe is trying to make . They could have made a album without torching the legacy of slaughter house . They could have did a Ortiz feature king crooked album it would have went wood . But they had to burn the pig to make money foh . They foul
Damn that Watson dude is slow as hel
So Crook and Joell did THIS album for a bag...bullshit.
They ain’t have to mention Slaughterhouse
@@TheJeremie247 fans have been asking for closure for year's, they wanted to give fans the closure we wanted, the other two think they're to big and entitled to do that, Joell and crook was just as much part of slaughterhouse as the other two 😒
@@Ahijah closure come on bro lol that's a bad excuse that Joelle and crook are putting out there. If all 4 didn't like each other and there's deep issues that caused the break up but it wasnt. On that live with Joelle Royce and Joe...... Joe said he left slaughter house due to bad business at shady joel agreed it was bad business it was that simple. It's not know back stabbing or bad blood in the group that the fans don't know about
@@TheJeremie247 They can't talk about their own lives??? Lol. What did Royce rap about on Book of Ryan? Allegory? What did Joe rap about on Mood Muzik?? Double standards.
@@Ahijah They ain’t never said the group was over, they just wasn’t releasing music
If dmc did a fall of rum dmc you would get it
Love u joe ❤️🦋🕊🦄🚙
The fact that Joe not talkin about music seems like Joell and Crook's whole point 😂🤣😂... From what I can see, Joell and Crook wanted to move on making music together, and Joe didn't have that same fervor. And what do most ppl do when other ppl display a sense of disinterest? They move on, yeah? So Joell and Crook moved on.
NOW! The idea that Joell and Crooked I attempted to use the Slaughterhouse name, to put it to bed, to sell a project does seem short sighted.
Yeah they moved on using the group name and brand which Joe and Royce has 50% rights to. So, Joel and Crooked didn’t really move on bc they’ll have to deal w Joe and Royce if it really comes down to it. It’s all about perspective, Joel and Crooked have their perspective and Joe and Royce has theirs and no one is wrong imo.
Lol you can’t move on when you don’t own what you’re doing annnnd that literally joes point 😂 😂
They used the name because the two of them make out 50% of that name, that's their part to own. They used the name because this particular project is a Slaughterhouse related concept. The whole album is them speaking on THEIR perspective of this. They have the right to move on and not be beholden to a thing which never goes anywhere or does anything for them. You gonna lock them up, and also say don't speak on how you feel? Man what rapper does not talk about how they feel and what's going on in their life? So are you saying that they don't decide for themselves whether they want to stay in the situation, they can't leave? And if they can leave, are you saying they can't speak on it? What's even the point of rap if you're not gonna talk about the stuff actually worth talking about. They aren't slandering anyone, they are saying look how we felt, and now we've had enough. We tried talking to you all in private, nothing happened. If nothing happened for 10 years, guess what, nothings gonna happen in 20 years either. It never takes someone 10 years to achieve any kind of action towards a goal.
You don't live on hopes and dreams, which is what you do if you think more time would have changed anything. They're getting older as well, you gonna start the new career of the group when, at 60? You gotta realize when people are just stuck in wait mode, part of them gets stuck in life they don't get to move past that and truly live a complete life. Like Crook said it brings me down, low energy, it's not good for him personally. He also tried a lot. Who stays then? It's like a relationship that should've ended 10 years ago and you still waiting. Not to mention you're in this to actually make something, people are not gonna be part of something meant to create and earn a living, and not do that, let's stop playing. At a certain point you quit a job if you don't achieve or earn anything. Now you had your chance to do something with the group, it didn't happen, it's too late to cry now because others want to move on. They have that right, they also have the right to speak on it because rap is all about that.
@@Dezzyyx if they moved on they would sign their rights to the group over the two members who haven’t moved on…but we know they won’t do that. This was about money and not moving on 🤦🏾♂️
Joe is just gonna play on this so so much!!!
Joe Buddens' conversation is on bitch level...Watson got down to it, Joe and Royce look juvenile in this whole situation
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"You're making me mad"??
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Royce been in all black everything for a while... Joe using the "white man" to represent the system (which is predominately, white) feels exploitative, still... And its clear he's talkin about a specific individual, whoever this Tony dude is 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
Can we hear that spited crocked eye
Joe needs to stop, crooked already linked y’all interview about him not horning the shady contract. He literally said “f that contract”
Has anyone asked Joe when they were gonna put out music? Did anyone ask why didn’t Joe get the deal? Get a deal with empire? Anywhere? Since it appears the deal has to go thorough him. Why has no one asked this?
Watson the best man🤣🤣🤣
Joe was the week link,always
haha nah joell with his corny ass
@@paulelroy6650 you say corny? Joell is a monster ! The only cornball in the group was budden lol the world can see that, guess you deaf and blind Haha
Joe always think that people don’t get it , because they don’t agree with his perspective..
GRAB THAT WATER 3!!!
I didn’t know I just found it……RUclips buggin out
Here’s what Joe doesn’t understand, the other members wanted to do Slaughterhouse and when they found out it wasn’t going to happen that affected their lives. They have a right to rap about things that affect their lives. Just like Joe rapped his twins . Because that affected him. That’s all they are doing. It wasn’t a diss album . Does the truth paint Joe in a bad light? Yes because he’s a snake.
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Its obvious that they dont mess with joe.....the stuff he has done over the years has convinced them that they arent close....duh....and if empire does good business...and u over there...why u not rapping?
Watching all of them Royce and joe look like they’re nervous because they look like they’re trying to discredit and clean up.
Joe neveeeeer want to honor the shady deal, words out his on mouth 👄
Not 1 question about how his retirement affected the group? Damn terrible journalism
it’s about integrity and principle to Joe, Watson… tf is up with you??
In the end after hearing the album this all comes across as a promo run they all in on. It's not like the album is even gear towards dissing Joe/Royce. This narrative that its a album full of Joe slander is bullshit. Honestly wasnt nothing said about Joe that honestly isn't basically public knowledge. I will say Crook/Joell dropping the album without giving Budden/Royce a heads up and using the logo without all 4 consent is foul. But so were Joe's moves that contribute to the split in the 1st place. I get Crook point about Joe not calling him back about the deal and Joes multiple retirement comments. In the end SH been over, it appears official now lets move on.
I’m done wit Joe he always want people to see it his way well this is the outcome! Done with Joe on all platforms
Shout out PSAHIPHOP RELOADED 🔥
Also him saying they did this for money is such a fking joke as so to say it’s not about them wanting to do music which is what they love and while telling their story which unfortunately seems disparaging towards him but that doesn’t make it the motive! Joe is a clown as narcissist and has to make everything about himself and even when he acknowledges his faults he always has to justify them some way some how.
Joe Budden Rhymes with Donald Trump! And lie like Lance Amstrong
Joe budden acting like a stuck up dime piece with crooked i and Joel 💯 joe budden tapped out from rap .
Joe and Royce have decided that the group is dead now what's the name of this album...this two gentlemen wanted closure. The group is dead so they didn't have the right to say we gonna tell our truth the best way we know how . Is that wrong?...get the heck out of here
Joe and his reaching. How can you say, "I can't say that because its NOT rooted in fact, but if..." nigga there is no if
This dude is weird and condescending he ask Joel asked joe to support I’m the cd he said smd! Done deal
Lyrical utopia is puns capital punishment...meths tical...nas it was written...joell and crook been mad nice...but stop it
Nobody cared bout them 4 diss tracks to Drake 🤣🤣🤣 stop it Watson
Fans cared…Fawk the popularity contest all 4 was fire 🤦🏾♂️
@@chriswalker7362 Agreed. Afraid was an ether level diss.
If you are a artist by heart! You can tell Joe's 🔥 is being lit!! He about to come back crazzy! Be ready y'all trust me.. he's a dope track away from blacking out
But he didn’t show up to rap 🤷🏽♀️
Exactly,it’s the one thing he refuses to acknowledge
They have no reason to talk about burying slaughter house if they wanna make an album together more power to them but don’t be talking about Joe and Royce all over the album using slaughterhouse logo talking about telling there truth do that ish on ur own album keep Joe and Royce name out ur mouth u making money using there likeness that’s the business part
@@str8koptv901 Can't tell an emcee who/what *not* to rap about. SH was an impactful part of Crook & Joell's career; so they have every reason & right to rap about *their* life experiences, that's what artists do. And like you said, they actually *are* telling their truth on their own album 'cause this isn't being labeled as a "by Slaughterhouse" project.
If they have any credible stake in the actual SH audio/visual content & branding, then they can do as they please with it. And if not, Joe & Royce could just sue and take their cut 🤷🏾♀️
@@MosaicButterfly your absolutely right there free to talk about whatever but it's corny considering it's no real tension or beef because y'all all talked about a deal that was just on the table
@@Mon-zw4ui Can't say there's no real tension, when Crook has talked extensively about the tension between him & Joe. And I guess, at some point, there was tension between Joell & Royce (that may still be unresolved) according to "Backstage". So us fans don't know the actual group dynamic behind closed doors, just the public perception. Just because they were trying to figure out the business end to release "Glasshouse" or whatever the final project was going to be, doesn't mean they were all actually getting along fr, fr 🤷🏾♀️
Joe talking about horrible communication skills but won't call anybody back OR think he owes anyone a phone call. Joe is one of the main ones who made hip hop corny with all the petty beefs and bs. Crook would tear Joe down lyrically
joe has inflated rap career ego almost like Mickey Facts....Joe Budden as a rapper is like bottow shelf stuff.
I DONT KNOW OF 2 joe budden songs, i am here to listen to a man help destroy a valuable rap group.
Well you missing out then. Joe catalog is amazing honestly.
Joe's passive aggressive take is almost as aggravating as his perceived benevolence. 🙄 Get off it man !
I don't think yall no what passive aggressive mean...yall think it just make you sound smart to say🙄🥱
@@8macvar you might wanna know the difference between know and no....before you get into a heavy language debate 🤔
@anthony johnson lol you remind me of hoes on social media that do that petty shit.. of course I know the difference between No and Know...but you go gurrrrrrrrrllllll lol