I'm really not sure what to think of this.... the A330 and A400M are absolutely great, but the 737MAX totally sucks. Did they try to parody the real MAX disaster? I'm speechless...
@@XavierLignieres True, but I would expect Asobo to ensure a certain minimum standard across all their fleets. Perhabs not iniBuilds level, but at least around the old Aircraft & Avionics Updated 747/787 or so...
@@A330Driver OMG I had not seen the whole video yet when I commented you were MCAS'd by the thing literally and I was here expecting some thing like the latinvfr a340 or some other bug but not that.....
Actually, there was a real life accident kinda similar to what happened to Emi here and Mentour does have a video about it! Ameristar Charters Flight 9363 - the crew was also unable to rotate, rejected past v1 and endep up in grass. ruclips.net/video/61_TqeITE3I/видео.html (Mentour's video)
The fact that some streamers who played the alpha told us that if you’re on the fence about buying the Ifly 737 max, you should wait until the default one for 2024 comes out.
@19:25 You can’t read the electric systems display, because the overhead lighting are off (one of the two knobs you have to rotate) found out by accident last night! @A330Driver
Last night was flying the Fenix SL in 2020 was like coming home from a bad trip,and sitting in your favourite chair. I’m realistic about 2024 but overall atm I’m not filled with a lot of confidence at present. For sure it will get better but this isn’t what I was expecting. I carnt use most of the planes as they just don’t load. I’m more annoyed that A350 won’t come to 2020 and have put up with this 2024 crap to fly it. Was a dream now a probable nightmare 😅. As long as they fix it by then fine everything else I now don’t care.
Absolutely I love flying the PMDG 737 and now I find out even they are issues porting to the new sim. I didn’t buy MSFS 24 to fly default airplanes that hardly work themselves. It’s just very frustrating.
I flew the 737Max yesterday and thought the plane was too responsive and didn’t really feel right when I was hand flying it. Thank you for confirming my suspicions 😅. Can’t wait for the a330 tutorials.
The entire MSFS2024 franchise needed to be baked a lot more before declaring it ready for consumer consumption. Got my Aviator Edition refunded I’ll wait until this hot mess is sorted out. MSFS2020 for me in the meantime thank you.
when you said "ASOBO's most detailed airliner yet" i knew things weren't going to turn out well. EDIT: Working TItle did the avionics, which explains why the MCDU/CDU/system pages etc appear really solid. everything else though...
it's really cheap for a simulator but you get what you pay for: it's completely worth it's price, but single, professional grade aircraft alone are between 30€ and 80€. (30€ for simple GA, 80€ for complex airliners). The sim itself is worth the price of entry for the A330 and the other well made planes alone.
You can toggle the virtual tablet in any plane by pressing TAB. Also live weather doesn't work the same anymore, When you set live weather but the time isn't current it now works as Historical Weather
Just wanted to note I loaded up the max last night, and didn't experience a few of the bugs you did, including having the additional avionics for packs/pressurization/comms, so I was surprised to see this
1. I have purchased MSFS 2024 too and installation went without any issue. It takes me like 30mins to load even with 1gb internet connection. 2. I agree with you about the MAX 100%. I fly frequently the MAX (Ifly) but couldn't get along with the 2024 version. 3.I will continue flying 2020 till all probs on 2024 are sort out.
When hitting the toga button or trying to. I think it was changing the trim. You can see something in the background moving. It's a bad model, maybe they don't want to take sales from pmgd. 😅
I have exactly the same issues with the aircraft. Radios don't work neither does battery display or pressurization panel. You mentioned about the in-game charts for the A330. This is available via the pop-out EFB from the in-game toolbar at the top.
Plane's been giving me serious issues as well. For whatever reason, the avionics and the rest of the cockpit black out as soon as I cross the runway threshold, and the thrust levers lock to full power as well. No matter how hard I try to bring them back, they always snap back to where they're stuck. After that, the plane either crashes or the game does, lmao. The plane's beautiful, but the actual flight experienced ruins it. Hopefully, they'll fix it in the relatively near future. Fingers crossed.
32:03 the trim had been set to 3 units instead of 5.25. Definitely hasn’t got takeoff config/cabin pressure alarm. Jumpy yoke didn’t help, but stab trim moves so fast in this one you can fly the plane with just it. Apparently asobos SOP
You didn't set the trim as 5.25 on TO page, but rather left it on the forward edge of green band. I don't blame you as there is so much bugs happening in the per-flight, really break the flow.... And while you should still able to climb out in the green band, not with the yoke rubber band back to neutral..
On a serious note, I was actually going to say, that after he pulled the yoke back, I didn't ever hear the trim wheels turn, so I wondered if it might be a trim issue.
FWIW -- I just tried flying the 737-MAX in FS2024. I started 'ready-to-go' on the runway, and the plane took-off and flew just fine! The simulator had the trim preset at '5'.
Am I glad that I am not the only real world pilot that struggles with this SIM. So far I have found most airliners un-flyable. Lots of work for MS and ASOBO to get through.
I figured out why the overhead panel and the center pedestal were appearing dark - not because of no Electricity, but because the Panel Light switches were all the way down. They have coupled the analog displays together with the panel lighting and this way you could not see anything...
I know it shouldn't behave like that when you apply full elevator up deflection. However, the FMC calculated trim position is 5.25, but the arrow in the elev trim indicator during the take-off run is on the top of green band, which is like 2.00 to 2.75? Why is that? Did you forget to adjust the trim?
I knew something was wrong with it, at night the screens are way too bright, and as we all saw, it barely even pulls up, I just thought it was me not putting enough flaps, gosh, and I was so hyped for the 737.
Sign up on Game Pass for a few months, it's relatively cheap, and you will get access to about 500 other games too while you periodically check in on MSFS 24 eg. STALKER 2 just launched too, and the new Indiana Jones game will drop on the 6th.
What will it take for Microsoft Team to interview a real world pilot like yourself and others for the main 5 aircrafts in the simulator and actually get the real numbers and simulations on these gauges.... Guess what ? Not much .. but god forbid they had to dish out a couple of more dollars to interview them. It should show everyone exactly were their interest lays ....$$$$ dollar signs !!! INCREDIBLE !!!
I don't believe this is fully modeled MCAS in the EFB after setting your weight and fuel the plane defaults to having its CG as far forward as possible. A silly oversight of asobo planes that was also present in 2020 at some point.
Omg 😂😂😂😂 this was hilarious to see. A very similar thing happened to me with my first PMDG 777 flight in FS2020. But I think that was due to a 3rd party pushback add on I had installed. I’m not sure what happened with you but it’s hilarious I’m sorry haha.
The entire MSFS 2024 experience has been exactly like this 'flight'. Buggy from the start, and just when you think you have found a work-around (not fix, nothing in this mess has been fixed) it get worse. The customers are the Test Pilots (or crash dummies).
Unrelated question but can those engine and other inlet covers be disabled completely in the sim? It seems annoying and unrealistic to have those in place each time you start a flight. (I dont't have the 2024 sim yet but I see those in every video I've watched so I'm wondering...)
Having seen a number of MSFS 2024 videos where people have all kinds of different problems with pretty much all planes, I'm wondering whether part of the problem is in the initial loading of the aircraft from the cloud. It maybe thinks it's downloaded everything , but in reality a whole bunch of functionality is missing that when you try to use it just causes unpredictable behaviour. I just find it hard to believe that Asobo/MS would release aircraft with such fundamentally flawed properties.
I love how you feign surprise when something doesn’t work in an Asobo aircraft. You should be surprised at anything that does work. Asobo doesn’t design complex aircraft. That’s why we pay developers the cost of the base sim for them.
Maybe an explanation: you have taken off with a trim setting of 3° instead of the 5.25° according to the CG. However, for the moment I will stay in FS2020 and its wonderfull Ifly model.
I have also a really annoying bug in msfs 24, every time new live weather is injected my plane gets pushed up 5000 feet…. Strange deep dives with AP disconnects… setting up the thrust leavers in the A330 gave me headaches, everytime i am in idle, it jumps to rev … i dont know, I ll stay with the 2020 for the next half year…
That’s because it’s a default aSobo plane. Now the default Ini planes are pretty decent for what I seen. But I haven’t even been able to take off in the max because I can’t get the GPU to connect the APU to start and I can’t be in the sim for more than two minutes without it crashing.
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I'm really not sure what to think of this.... the A330 and A400M are absolutely great, but the 737MAX totally sucks. Did they try to parody the real MAX disaster? I'm speechless...
Well the A400 and A330 are by inibuilds so that would explain the good systems in those I guess
@@XavierLignieres True, but I would expect Asobo to ensure a certain minimum standard across all their fleets. Perhabs not iniBuilds level, but at least around the old Aircraft & Avionics Updated 747/787 or so...
@@A330Driver OMG I had not seen the whole video yet when I commented you were MCAS'd by the thing literally and I was here expecting some thing like the latinvfr a340 or some other bug but not that.....
@@XavierLignieres yep... this is just totally unacceptable. Server issues okay, but THIS is not a server issue. This is a bad plane.
😂😂😂😂
Now Mentour Pilot will have to make video about this incident.
“And this is where things went downhill *really* quickly…”
I'd watch that.
Notice how they are flying a 737 MAX? Remember that!
Hope you’re doing absolutely fantastic today
Actually, there was a real life accident kinda similar to what happened to Emi here and Mentour does have a video about it!
Ameristar Charters Flight 9363 - the crew was also unable to rotate, rejected past v1 and endep up in grass.
ruclips.net/video/61_TqeITE3I/видео.html (Mentour's video)
I mean, the plane is simulated correctly…it’s just the 2018 version
1918 version *
“737 Max doing 737 Max “ 😭💀
"They have a working MCAS"
They opted for MAX realism and they delivered
The fact that some streamers who played the alpha told us that if you’re on the fence about buying the Ifly 737 max, you should wait until the default one for 2024 comes out.
@19:25 You can’t read the electric systems display, because the overhead lighting are off (one of the two knobs you have to rotate) found out by accident last night! @A330Driver
They could make it truly realistic by having your flight instructor show up 30 minutes late to a lesson with a bag of McDonald’s
Last night was flying the Fenix SL in 2020 was like coming home from a bad trip,and sitting in your favourite chair. I’m realistic about 2024 but overall atm I’m not filled with a lot of confidence at present. For sure it will get better but this isn’t what I was expecting. I carnt use most of the planes as they just don’t load. I’m more annoyed that A350 won’t come to 2020 and have put up with this 2024 crap to fly it. Was a dream now a probable nightmare 😅. As long as they fix it by then fine everything else I now don’t care.
exactly, i don't know why Inibuilds decided to release A350 only in MSFS 2024
Absolutely I love flying the PMDG 737 and now I find out even they are issues porting to the new sim. I didn’t buy MSFS 24 to fly default airplanes that hardly work themselves. It’s just very frustrating.
@@ghurghustBecause it might be a marketing trick to get 2020 players to 2024. Afterall, iniBuilds and Asobo are partnered up.
Any new software is always buggy. Over the next week or two they’ll roll out patches to fix stuff.
I flew the 737Max yesterday and thought the plane was too responsive and didn’t really feel right when I was hand flying it. Thank you for confirming my suspicions 😅. Can’t wait for the a330 tutorials.
The entire MSFS2024 franchise needed to be baked a lot more before declaring it ready for consumer consumption. Got my Aviator Edition refunded I’ll wait until this hot mess is sorted out. MSFS2020 for me in the meantime thank you.
Hahah MCAS simulted too good :D
when you said "ASOBO's most detailed airliner yet" i knew things weren't going to turn out well. EDIT: Working TItle did the avionics, which explains why the MCDU/CDU/system pages etc appear really solid. everything else though...
"737 max doing 737 max things" absolutely killed me 🤣 good stream though. this software is rather bizzare for the price. i'll give it a miss
it's really cheap for a simulator but you get what you pay for: it's completely worth it's price, but single, professional grade aircraft alone are between 30€ and 80€. (30€ for simple GA, 80€ for complex airliners).
The sim itself is worth the price of entry for the A330 and the other well made planes alone.
You can toggle the virtual tablet in any plane by pressing TAB. Also live weather doesn't work the same anymore, When you set live weather but the time isn't current it now works as Historical Weather
Just wanted to note I loaded up the max last night, and didn't experience a few of the bugs you did, including having the additional avionics for packs/pressurization/comms, so I was surprised to see this
32:52 Wow this game is so realistic ! even Boeing have issues in the game !
HAHAHA, the most realistic 737 Max Experience, i laughed so hard as u full pull up at 160 kt with a light weight plane and NOTHING happens 😂
Wow a surviving 737 pilot.
1. I have purchased MSFS 2024 too and installation went without any issue. It takes me like 30mins to load even with 1gb internet connection.
2. I agree with you about the MAX 100%. I fly frequently the MAX (Ifly) but couldn't get along with the 2024 version.
3.I will continue flying 2020 till all probs on 2024 are sort out.
31:40 The STAB TRIM was set right on the forward limit, and maybe a touch beyond it.
Yeah I think he legitimately crashed the plane
imagine the ntsb listening to the cvr HAHAHAHHA
"HELOOoooooOoooIoooo!?!?!?"
Asobo looked at forgot to put the word max when searching for 737 MAX 8 specs and instead looked at 737-800 specs
The cows at the end looked good 😉
Holy cow!!! Thank you for not hitting a cow. That plane is tough. It must be made of the same material as the black box.
MCAS activated :D
Thank you for your video!! Why you didn't set the trim to 5.25?
When hitting the toga button or trying to. I think it was changing the trim. You can see something in the background moving. It's a bad model, maybe they don't want to take sales from pmgd. 😅
I have exactly the same issues with the aircraft. Radios don't work neither does battery display or pressurization panel. You mentioned about the in-game charts for the A330. This is available via the pop-out EFB from the in-game toolbar at the top.
Gotta admit…this is the most hilarious flight sim review video since NerdCubed took on FSX all those many years ago.
Plane's been giving me serious issues as well. For whatever reason, the avionics and the rest of the cockpit black out as soon as I cross the runway threshold, and the thrust levers lock to full power as well. No matter how hard I try to bring them back, they always snap back to where they're stuck. After that, the plane either crashes or the game does, lmao. The plane's beautiful, but the actual flight experienced ruins it. Hopefully, they'll fix it in the relatively near future. Fingers crossed.
34:29 These cows are looking at you and thinking, what a nice bull parked here LOL
32:03 the trim had been set to 3 units instead of 5.25. Definitely hasn’t got takeoff config/cabin pressure alarm. Jumpy yoke didn’t help, but stab trim moves so fast in this one you can fly the plane with just it. Apparently asobos SOP
You didn't set the trim as 5.25 on TO page, but rather left it on the forward edge of green band.
I don't blame you as there is so much bugs happening in the per-flight, really break the flow....
And while you should still able to climb out in the green band, not with the yoke rubber band back to neutral..
On a serious note, I was actually going to say, that after he pulled the yoke back, I didn't ever hear the trim wheels turn, so I wondered if it might be a trim issue.
9:26 perhaps for the wind data entry, it expected "244/042", since there's 3 dashes for the wind speed?
FWIW -- I just tried flying the 737-MAX in FS2024. I started 'ready-to-go' on the runway, and the plane took-off and flew just fine! The simulator had the trim preset at '5'.
I'm glad that I didn't wait for default max and got the ifly 😂
Exhibit 25 of why I never pre-order games (of any sort whatsoever). Thank you for your videos
Same, just happy this is included in my Game Pass Sub.
Classic Asobo. I'm glad we have the iFly to work with instead, hopefully we can transfer it to 2024 soon
@A330Driver Having the trim set to ~3 (32:01) instead of 5.25 (10:57) for the takeoff didn't really help with the rotation. (;
That's right, but as long as the config warning doesn't sound we are within safe limits for the takeoff.
@@A330Driver Green range (on the edge), theoretically it should be possible. (;
Man, I haven't laughed that hard in a while. It flew just like the real thing! Thanks for that.
Am I glad that I am not the only real world pilot that struggles with this SIM.
So far I have found most airliners un-flyable.
Lots of work for MS and ASOBO to get through.
I figured out why the overhead panel and the center pedestal were appearing dark - not because of no Electricity, but because the Panel Light switches were all the way down. They have coupled the analog displays together with the panel lighting and this way you could not see anything...
I know it shouldn't behave like that when you apply full elevator up deflection.
However, the FMC calculated trim position is 5.25, but the arrow in the elev trim indicator during the take-off run is on the top of green band, which is like 2.00 to 2.75? Why is that? Did you forget to adjust the trim?
Apologies for the inconvenience we are going to have to disembark back to the terminal, thank you for your patience.
One thing the sim does not slack on is accuracy..lore accurate 737 max launch is crazyy
I knew something was wrong with it, at night the screens are way too bright, and as we all saw, it barely even pulls up, I just thought it was me not putting enough flaps, gosh, and I was so hyped for the 737.
I think it was trying to demonstrate the possibilities of the MCAS going mad, similar to what those crew went through on those flights
You took of with trim in 3 points, quite rare setting isn't it?
crazy how they managed to realistically simulate the mcas system
Thanks for the video. PC questions for you, are you locking your frames rate?
34:01 perfect 737 MAX! Truly study level to the IRL groundcraft.
Another stream mentioned that iFly has nothing to worry about. They weren't kidding.
There are good reasons why, in 36 years of Flight Simulator, I have never flown a Boeing ...
Imagine the people that paid £200 for the premium game lol
Watching this video while flying PMDG 777 in MSFS 2020. And I am so happy with it 😊.
I wish my sim ran as nicely as yours. Hopefully soon 😅
Seems like the nosediving 737 max is quite accurate based on the last couple of years of Boeing history.
i decide to wait for more mature version of MSFS2024, thank you sir!
i just got done downloading all world updates for msfs 2020 after refunding msfs 2024
Sign up on Game Pass for a few months, it's relatively cheap, and you will get access to about 500 other games too while you periodically check in on MSFS 24
eg. STALKER 2 just launched too, and the new Indiana Jones game will drop on the 6th.
The confused cows 🐮 🐮 🐮 😭 lol 😂
What will it take for Microsoft Team to interview a real world pilot like yourself and others for the main 5 aircrafts in the simulator and actually get the real numbers and simulations on these gauges.... Guess what ? Not much .. but god forbid they had to dish out a couple of more dollars to interview them. It should show everyone exactly were their interest lays ....$$$$ dollar signs !!! INCREDIBLE !!!
Theyre probably just planning on a game mode where you work as a boeing quality control inspector :D
"Grim Reaper Simulator 2025" - coming soon in the MSFS24 store.
At least you got to crash into terrain. All I'm getting with MSFS2024 is crash to desktop.
Well I guess the hydraulic system display wasnt giving you erroneous readings lol. Jokes aside, it seems like trim was full pitch down. Classic MSFS
Had the same with another plane. Trim full down and thanks to autotrim no chance of changing it. Well, everything is streamed. Or not
Highly informative and very entertaining video, thanks
I don't believe this is fully modeled MCAS in the EFB after setting your weight and fuel the plane defaults to having its CG as far forward as possible.
A silly oversight of asobo planes that was also present in 2020 at some point.
Bobbing up and down… ☠️ Did you check the trim?
So glad I took the sensible decision to stay with FS2020 which works flawlessly for me.
Omg 😂😂😂😂 this was hilarious to see.
A very similar thing happened to me with my first PMDG 777 flight in FS2020. But I think that was due to a 3rd party pushback add on I had installed. I’m not sure what happened with you but it’s hilarious I’m sorry haha.
That sums up the 737 MAX, A good job you were in a flight sim and not real life! 😂
The sooner everyone requests a refund, the quicker Asobo will get their shit together and get this mess into a release state.
That was really realistic ! MAX fun !
Faulty MCAS is also simulated !!!
This simulator is insane, perfectly simulating It's aircraft and their mechanics. 💀
I don't recall you setting to trim during take off ref init or did miss that?
The entire MSFS 2024 experience has been exactly like this 'flight'. Buggy from the start, and just when you think you have found a work-around (not fix, nothing in this mess has been fixed) it get worse. The customers are the Test Pilots (or crash dummies).
Unrelated question but can those engine and other inlet covers be disabled completely in the sim? It seems annoying and unrealistic to have those in place each time you start a flight. (I dont't have the 2024 sim yet but I see those in every video I've watched so I'm wondering...)
No idea... I suspect you're seeing it a lot right now because everyone is gushing over the fact they made the walk around mode.
ahh yes realistic implementation of 2018-2019 MCAS. i guess iFly used the updated software 😅
Are you going to make full flight tutorials on some of these aircrafts? SAAB 340, A400M? I'd highly appreciate
It's so realistic it must not be used for real-world purposes 😂
You seem to be getting a better resolution...what did u do?
Having seen a number of MSFS 2024 videos where people have all kinds of different problems with pretty much all planes, I'm wondering whether part of the problem is in the initial loading of the aircraft from the cloud. It maybe thinks it's downloaded everything , but in reality a whole bunch of functionality is missing that when you try to use it just causes unpredictable behaviour. I just find it hard to believe that Asobo/MS would release aircraft with such fundamentally flawed properties.
If Amano can’t get it up in the air, NOBODY CAN !
I love how you feign surprise when something doesn’t work in an Asobo aircraft. You should be surprised at anything that does work. Asobo doesn’t design complex aircraft. That’s why we pay developers the cost of the base sim for them.
I don’t think the max is bad it just literally simulates the real thing😂
ASOBO gonna be generating headlines for being a PR nightmare for Boeing.
Maybe an explanation: you have taken off with a trim setting of 3° instead of the 5.25° according to the CG. However, for the moment I will stay in FS2020 and its wonderfull Ifly model.
A great advert to stay on flight sim 2020
Were you trimming up when u got airbone? i think ur trim controls were reversed , idk tho
You have MCAS and you have cows - perfect!
Thanks for the video. Is it possible that you did not adjust the elevator trim as seen in FMC?
I have also a really annoying bug in msfs 24, every time new live weather is injected my plane gets pushed up 5000 feet…. Strange deep dives with AP disconnects… setting up the thrust leavers in the A330 gave me headaches, everytime i am in idle, it jumps to rev … i dont know, I ll stay with the 2020 for the next half year…
Do you use Tobi Eye Tracker? BTW, look at that cow?
That aircraft is insulting the whole community. A slap in the face.
That’s because it’s a default aSobo plane. Now the default Ini planes are pretty decent for what I seen. But I haven’t even been able to take off in the max because I can’t get the GPU to connect the APU to start and I can’t be in the sim for more than two minutes without it crashing.
“737 Max doing 737 Max things“ great 🤣🤣🤣
I’m a study-level puritan and this makes me feel really justified in only buying the standard version due to presumed quality of planes lol
perfect take off ;) had the same problem with both the 737 max and the b747. any fix or just a bug?
Didn't know Aerosucre had a 737 Max in her fleet.
It's so realistic they even added MCAS
"737 Max doing 737 Max things"...LOL!!!!!!!