The total destruction of the whole structure of Salford was pure vandalism. It was my early childhood home, with a great neighbourhood, grandparents, aunties, uncles lots of cousins, little shops where everyone was known by name. There was trust, kindness, community. And then came the bulldozers, and the tower block incubators of crime and thuggery. Thank, you, David.
My name is Joe Grogan. I was born in Salford in 1950 and lived there till 1973. I lived in Walsall for two years and then in Stafford for 29 years. I now live in Dover. Your material has brought back memories. Many thanks. Joe Grogan.
Fabulous David - Thankyou. We lived at 29 Broughton Rd, mum turned into Hairdressers. The Blank Wall was joined on to the shop. Shop, living room and kitchen on one level, then a door of the kitchen led dow a lot of steps & there was another door that when opened the coal was in the space dropped down from the outside grid, then a few more steps to a larger storage space and another door leading down more steps to the back yard that had a brick shelter/room without a door where our kid & I kept fish, frogs/toads, sticklebacks that we caught from inside the Blank. Our back yard gate led out to what I believe was the dye works and we used catch them in the little pool there.
Hi Joan, We meet again! A very good description of your house, ours was the same. The thing I thought of that was unusual was you walked in at ground level through to the back lounge and through the window you were looking into the bedrooms of the houses on Bailey Street. We had a massive cellar same as you and my dad was given a couple of quid to house about 200 broken radio's from Townsends repair shop which was the first shop on the left when you came out of our back entry onto Whit Lane. What memories if any do you have of your attic? Yours would have been a little round the bend from ours but you could see over Manchester Racecourse, Agecroft Pit & Power station all of Higher Broughton and Cheetham Hill. I'm only sorry that I never invested in a camera to take in the views.
@@davidseale8252 hi David - I never went into the attic, our kid Stuart sorted out putting the mice up there in a little cage, he said it was too cold in the building in the yard (we called it the air raid shelter) not sure it was for that purpose, it didn’t have a door just an opening. I’m sorry I can’t help you about the attic and you are right it probably was a great view. 🤣 laughing because it was a long drop from the sitting room and mum sat me on the window ledge, held my knees while I washed the outside sash window - get locked up today for such an act 🤣🤣
I remember opening our sash windows but unbeknown to me the sash rope had snapped and the top window fell down with a bang trapping my eight fingers. Dad and mam got me out and I couldn't believe that I had not broken any. They remained bruised for several weeks!@@joandavies66
Oh David, this was a gem, my Mother came from Brindleheath.The beautiful.house they pulled down to build slums, and destroyed the character and history of our Great SALFORD❤️❤️❤️🙏 .
Broughton Road is the start of the Manchester outer ring road that starts at Pendleton church and crosses the following main roads: Bury New Road, Cheetham Hill Road, Rochdale Road, Oldham Road, Ashton New Road, Ashton Old Road, Hyde Road, and finishing at Stockport Road at Longsight.
Just got a glimpse of my auntie Sally's house opposite the Bijou, I lived on Litchfield st off Whit Lane but moved from there to Timperley when I was 7 years old, but I still have vivid memories of Salford, the little park down Whit Lane, and the footbridge over the Irwell and the shed that used to house the rowing boats, also the junior school on Aukland St where my Gran Lived
I also remember the baker's that you recall. It was called Chemney's. Their bread, barm cakes, cakes and meat and potato pies have never been bettered as far as I'm concerned. Their little bakehouse stood on some land behind the shop we call the back entry. Sometimes we got to 'help' clean up after the days baking. The old man was called Tom. What a wonderful time we had growing up there. We lived at no.76, my mum and dad had a shoe shop next to Hudson's Post Office and Mellings Greengrocers. The Fred Done Betting shop took its place.
Fabulous!! I used to walk dow Broughton Road every day. First job at the Co.op but her/ green grocery next to the Maypole Hotel. I then went to work ar Mandlebergs.. down to Whit Lar to see my cousins and uncle and aunt.. I remember all of those places you mention. How fabulous to see and know these places. Many thanks.. nostalgia at its best. ,👏👏👍
thank you lots of memories sad and happy ones i lived on gloucester st near the steps toffee shop 70/74 street at back was mona st.ward and goldstone had factory on gloucester st what did they make anybody got photos of gloucester st i live in the west of ireland now just love to see it again thank you all .john.
Just stumbled across this. Ward and Goldstone made 'Volex' electrical stuff - wire, plugs,sockets, fuse boards etc etc. Their building at 7:15 in the video is still there - just the one end of it as in the photo - it is now a car repair place, partly for a taxi firm, and I get my car MOTd there! cheers, Mark
Brilliant! Thank you David. A propa trip down memory lane 👍I was brought up dow Broughton lane, borough St, next to radio rentals.we use to sneak in, and play in huge bins full of broken TV screens. Thinking back Crazy thing to do. I also attended Cromwell. Once again thank you. Subscribed
Thanks Wayne, I was always up and down Borough St during the 60's. I lived on Broughton Road and my girlfriend, now wife lived in Kent street. My wife worked at Radio Rentals for a while, she was always getting shocks from testing circuit boards with a piece of wood. There wasn't Health & safety in those days. Glad you enjoyed it.
Brilliant! I lived more or less opposite Lissadel Street on Borough Street but here's the thing. I had memories of girls dancing around a maypole up there but nobody else remembered and in the end I thought it was the name of the Maypole pub that put the idea into my head and that I imagined it! Thanks to you I can see that it was a real thing! That shop - the Gaybox, it was a propr ironmongers that had pegboard on the wall and smelt of paraffin and carbolic. In the late 60's an elderly chap took over a shop on the corner of Borough street. It was candlelit and was basically a bric-a-brac and junk shop. The chap who ran it utterly fascinated me. He looked like he never had a wash in his life and looked like the cross between the first ever Dr Who (William Hartnell) and a character from a Dickens novel, complete with a bit of string to keep his coat fastened. He was also very well spoken with quite a posh accent. Over the years, I've never really met anybody who can remember this character. I'd love to know about him and his story - or is it a figment of my imagination? We called him 'Dirty Dick'. Last time I saw him, he was pushing a handcart past the civic centre near the old school.
Hello Alan, Thank you for your comments, I really enjoyed compiling it although I only had 10 seconds per photo for my commentary. The Gentleman with the bric a brac shop was known to us kids as "Dirty Dick" and I agree with all your comments about him and his beautiful accent albeit he had a lack of most of his teeth. He originally opened his first shop on Broad St, just a few doors past Hankinson St. A single story shack like building that was crammed with all sorts of rubbish. I remember buying a Map of the world off him for sixpence. It was an old school type one that hung on your wall with a stretch of cord. Unfortunately, the building burned down with all his stock maybe because of his use of bare candles he used to burn. Maybe I'm being unkind to him and it wasn't his fault! About 5 months later he opened his little shop on Broughton Rd next door to what used to be a pawn shop on the corner of Borough St. Here's another good story, One day my cousin called at our house with a bag of basically rubbish which her mother had sent her to sell to Dirty Dicks 'cos she was skint. She came back with 5 bob! I couldn't believe it so I immediately got together a shoebox and filled it with daft bit of rubbish. In the box I remember, was one football boot some dead batteries, boot laces and other valueless ephemera. I went across to Dirty Dicks and told him my mam had sent me. He gave me half a crown for the box of stuff! Looking back now, I feel guilty about exploiting him but was I? I don't think he was short of a bob or two and it was a life he wanted to live. I don't know what happened to him after that. Good memories all the same. Rona & Jack Cartwright took over the off licence at the Broughton Rd end of Borough St. They had about seven Children and I was good friends with their eldest son Johnny. David Cartwright is an avid user of the Salford sites of "Salford past & Present" and "Memories of the Old Whit Lane Area" I suggest you look these two sites up on FACEBOOK if you have the internet. Best Wishes Alan & Stay safe.
I remember Dirty Dick well. He had a shop on Whit Lane near the Clarence pub and facing the park in the early 1970s. His shop was ramshackle and full to the ceiling and we were always trying to sell him something or other. I remember him telling me that he also used to have a shop in Moss Side. And yes I remember he had a well spoken cultured voice/accent.
@@davidseale8252 Hi David , there were , and still is , 8 of us Cartwright kids . I was born at 102 Broughton Rd , opposite your house .. As you said , we moved to the corner shop on Borough St when I was about 7 or 8 years old . We had a few good years in the shop , untilill the Bijou was turned into a supermarket , I think originally called Madsega , then Adsega , then Tesco . This put an end to the shop and shortly after our mam ran off with someone , so we were brought up by my dad , with lots of help from his sisters .
@@dacsceilings5 Hi Dacs, What number are you on the Cartwright sibling tree? It's good to hear you are all still going strong. Johnny must be 72 or 73 now and we were best mates at St Thomas's & Cromwell. I also remember David & Gillian and David is a regular contributor on the Salford Facebook sites. I remember playing in your long backyard on Broughton Road and sadly remember your family's demise at the off licence on Borough St. My mam got "on tick" at your shop. She couldn't get that at Adsega or tesco's. Hope you have a lovely Christmas, Pass my regards onto anyone who remembers me and stay safe.
@@davidseale8252 Thanks David, so glad I finally met someone who actually remembered dirty dick. I started to wonder if I imagined it all. A couple of other memories. There used to be a very scary elderly lady who used to turn up in the strangest black Victorian contraption - loosely you would call it a bath chair that she drove with hand pedals. and she used to scream at the kids because she needed a push to get up the slight rise from Borough Street onto Broughton Road at the side of Gold's Chemist. I gave her a push once and it weighd a ton. The other one was Mrs Addis who lived at 13 Borough Street - I was told she was related to the well-known Addis brush people. Anyway, one day she told me about when she was younger and worked in the mills, during WW1. I clearly remember telling me that one night, she looked up, and in her words "Eee, it was like a big silver fish in the sky". She was talking about a Zepplin which had raided the Ramsbottom area earlier.
You missed my Aunty Ivy’s paper shop out which was facing that “peacock park”, Victoria Wines off license was next door and just before the railway bridge. I remember Pendleton train station very well as a kid and even then was impressed by the interior of the station which was all done in the original wood and with working gas lights illuminating the platform and waiting room, that was in the late 1960s early 1970s and seemed old fashioned but wonderful even then. Years after I had moved away from the area someone told me that vandals had burned it down. (What a waste) I too was at Cromwell early to mid 1970s.
Hi Dave, I remember your Aunty Ivy's paper shop and went in frequently. I've searched and asked on the Salford sites for pictures of those two shops just on their own but none have been forthcoming. I was too young to go into Victoria Wines. I Mention in the clip about playing Cricket on the Platform with the Stationmaster, we also went around with him carrying new Gas Mantles while he lit the gas lamps. It was the only time he would let us cross over the line with him at the end of the platform to do the other side. I moved away to lower Broughton in 1970 after getting married but I didn't hear of it being burnt down! Thanks for watching.
@@davidseale8252 It always amazed me that they had a gas lit train station in the 1970s that was virtually unchanged from the original building. All wood and everything kept spic and span, just like walking into a living museum.
That first building was actually called the Pendleton Civic Centre known as Pendleton House .It was next door to the old Pendleton Town Hall . and the Police St Clinic and Registrars Office It housed The Coroners Office , The Citizens Advice Bureau , The Gas Board office , The Water Board The Electric Office ,The Council Rent and Housing Office including Repairs , there was also a room for meetings , The roof housed the local Siren that was used in emergencies , There were other local council depts added and of course taken to other buildings , behind this building was the Police St school and anti natal clinic which had a School nurse , the Dentists , Nit Nurse , and the school childrens health exam officer where you went to get your health certificate before you could get a paper round job or a butchers , grocers assistants job while you were still at school It is now up for sale having been boarded up for years
Thank you John. I went in the police St clinic several times. The earlier photo mentioned this building as the National Assistance building but your explanation makes real sense. Thank you.
I worked at the brewery circa 1968,69 in the computer input department. This was my first job. The lady in charge was Alice, you worked there too. Mo, worked in an adjacent office with a lady called Lillian. Mo and I went for nights out with another friend Joan. I warmly remember both you and your sister. At that time you were madly in love with a lady whose name was Pat. You told the romantic story of the first time you fell for Pat , recalling every minute detail which had included her paisley patterned dress. I can remember your passion for sci/fi books , Asimov etc. I came from the part of Cheetham Hill that embraces Salford. I always felt more affinity with Salford and her people. To date, your presentation of the film, is closest to heart of this magnificent city. You provide the essence of the streets in which the nostalgic time traveller can wander.
Thanks for the reply Karen. You are who I thought you were. Sadly, Maureen died about 20 years ago(RIP). Unfortunately I don't remember an Alice (do you remember her surname? You were however a collegue of Rosa Hampson who also worked in the same office - she lived on Gt. Clowes St in Salford. Pat and I separated a long time ago but we are still married but I haven't been able to see her since the first lockdown. We had 4 children, two boys & two girls. The eldest is now 50, the youngest 40. I ended up staying at the brewery for 28 years becoming the Admin Manager for the last 5 years before it closed down. If you log onto "Salford's Yester Years on Facebook and click on media/Albums, the first album is for the Cook St Brewery and I have a lot of photo's on them of the brewery, I'm sure you will remember some of the places. Really good to hear from you and so pleased you like the video. Stay safe.
Hiya David, I was watching videos of salford when I came across yours and noticed we have same surname and wonderd if we were related, My Dad was from same area , his mum and Dad parted when he was young, his name was John, his wife was Alma , his Dad was called George , I was born in salford but moved to Wales 33 years ago xx
There are some similarities Joanie but my dad's first wife was called Winifred Hayes, they both lived in Chadwick Street, Ordsall and were married on the 28th October 1916 at St. Bartholomews. If it is the same "John", I met him twice, Once when his mother died and the second time at my dad's (George) Funeral. We were half brothers but he was about 50 and me 21. So, What was your Grandma's name?
@@jonieseale9971 That's me Jonie, (is that your real name?). Maureen died a few years ago sadly but our Bev is still with us. Are you on Face book? you can message me on there even if you are not a member.
Do you have a sister called Maureen and did you ever work at the brewery, I have fond memories if you are indeed the same David Seale..... Thank you for a lovely film , Karen
Really good video David, great effort. Just by chance I had a couple of hours to kill only yesterday, so had a drive around this whole area looking for remnants of what once was there.
Thanks so much for posting this! I was wondering if you have any old photographs of the butcher's shop that is now Big Boss Diner at Littleton Rd and Cromwell Roundabout? It's great to see what everything used to look like! I've lived here 12 years, and I love Salford as if it were me own!! Really appreciate this upload!
I haven't sorry linuxel33t but a photo has just come up on the Facebook "Salford Yester Years" site Copyright Eddie Smith. If the post is no longer on the front page, search for Littleton Road & Kersal to bring the album up.
Happy memories. Thanks. Just need to know what the name of the restaurant was just up from the Railway? Had many great curries in there after a local pub crawl. Just cannot remember what it was called.
It was a greasy spoon Cafe in the 50's & 60's Nigel. I never knew the proprietors name but we used to meet up there for a meal every saturday before going to see the reds at old Trafford.
David, I am so sorry to hear about Maureen, she was a lovely, sweet and inoffensive person whose smile I will always remember. I remember Rosa, she was engaged to a bloke Peter who worked in the lab at the brewery. Alice Bleakley was about 50 at that time. It must have been devastating for you when the brewery closed down. I must admit I did not know, news and developments of this part of the world are miles away from me , literately, I have been living in Germany since 1989. I am not able to look on facebook as I do not have it. Therefore I will be unable to see the photographs that you had suggested. Your family sounds great! If you have an Email address, you could send that. It is good to remember times gone by and is an exercise to keep the mind and soul busy. Thank you for your news , Hoping to hear from you again, Karen
Hi Karen, As soon as I had sent that last message the name Blakely or Bleakley came to mind. I cannot for the life of me picture her face though. and i can picture peter from the lab. I do have an e-mail address but I cannot send any of my pictures through it as they are all too big, even as jpegs. The Brewery Tower and the Chimney are still standing as are some of the cook St Cottages. All now offices for Architects and Solicitors. The rest of the site including the buildings underneath the Railway Arches have now got small industrial buildings on them and are known as the "Deva Centre". Deva being the Roman name for Chester and the Brewery's main beer was Chester's Best Mild. Let me know if I can be of help with any info you want.
Thank you for your reply, Do you still have any contact with Rosa! I will describe Alice for you , she had silver hair, a ruddy face, (due to high blood pressure, I think) she was quite plump. She more or less ran our office before some older guy, I believe his name was David, anyway he was into photography. I enjoy trying to remember different people from the past probably because I do not have any family left there, I suppose it is good mental exercise as well. I have worked in many different companies and educational institutions but I recall the atmosphere , conditions and work friends of my first job with joy. Salford was truly a magical place. Through your film I am transported back there. thank you Karen
Hi Karen, I can still only remember Alice vaguely. still can't picture her real face. In 1984 I bought my first house in Gt Clowes St. It was about 50 Yards from where Rosa Lived before she got married. Later on, she started working in the local corner shop and we got chatting. I think she had moved back to live with her parents but I didn't feel comfortable with asking her about her domestic arrangements. Later on she answered one of my posts on a Salford Facebook site so she is still local I believe. The David who took over from Alice was David Thompson, we became quite close and when he bought his first house in Abbey Hey, Gorton, we moved into his old rented house. My wife Pat was pregnant with our first child at the time. He died fairly young, in his late 40's I think of massive organ failure. The Lily you remember would have been Lillian Beck and I became her supervisor some years later and we moved into the general offices on Cook St.
The total destruction of the whole structure of Salford was pure vandalism. It was my early childhood home, with a great neighbourhood, grandparents, aunties, uncles lots of cousins, little shops where everyone was known by name. There was trust, kindness, community. And then came the bulldozers, and the tower block incubators of crime and thuggery. Thank, you, David.
My name is Joe Grogan. I was born in Salford in 1950 and lived there till 1973. I lived in Walsall for two years and then in Stafford for 29 years. I now live in Dover. Your material has brought back memories. Many thanks.
Joe Grogan.
Fabulous David - Thankyou. We lived at 29 Broughton Rd, mum turned into Hairdressers. The Blank Wall was joined on to the shop. Shop, living room and kitchen on one level, then a door of the kitchen led dow a lot of steps & there was another door that when opened the coal was in the space dropped down from the outside grid, then a few more steps to a larger storage space and another door leading down more steps to the back yard that had a brick shelter/room without a door where our kid & I kept fish, frogs/toads, sticklebacks that we caught from inside the Blank. Our back yard gate led out to what I believe was the dye works and we used catch them in the little pool there.
Hi Joan, We meet again! A very good description of your house, ours was the same. The thing I thought of that was unusual was you walked in at ground level through to the back lounge and through the window you were looking into the bedrooms of the houses on Bailey Street. We had a massive cellar same as you and my dad was given a couple of quid to house about 200 broken radio's from Townsends repair shop which was the first shop on the left when you came out of our back entry onto Whit Lane. What memories if any do you have of your attic? Yours would have been a little round the bend from ours but you could see over Manchester Racecourse, Agecroft Pit & Power station all of Higher Broughton and Cheetham Hill. I'm only sorry that I never invested in a camera to take in the views.
@@davidseale8252 hi David - I never went into the attic, our kid Stuart sorted out putting the mice up there in a little cage, he said it was too cold in the building in the yard (we called it the air raid shelter) not sure it was for that purpose, it didn’t have a door just an opening. I’m sorry I can’t help you about the attic and you are right it probably was a great view. 🤣 laughing because it was a long drop from the sitting room and mum sat me on the window ledge, held my knees while I washed the outside sash window - get locked up today for such an act 🤣🤣
I remember opening our sash windows but unbeknown to me the sash rope had snapped and the top window fell down with a bang trapping my eight fingers. Dad and mam got me out and I couldn't believe that I had not broken any. They remained bruised for several weeks!@@joandavies66
@@davidseale8252 ouch!!!
Oh David, this was a gem, my Mother came from Brindleheath.The beautiful.house they pulled down to build slums, and destroyed the character and history of our Great SALFORD❤️❤️❤️🙏
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Broughton Road is the start of the Manchester outer ring road that starts at Pendleton church and crosses the following main roads:
Bury New Road, Cheetham Hill Road, Rochdale Road, Oldham Road, Ashton New Road, Ashton Old Road, Hyde Road, and finishing at Stockport Road at Longsight.
Just got a glimpse of my auntie Sally's house opposite the Bijou, I lived on Litchfield st off Whit Lane but moved from there to Timperley when I was 7 years old, but I still have vivid memories of Salford, the little park down Whit Lane, and the footbridge over the Irwell and the shed that used to house the rowing boats, also the junior school on Aukland St where my Gran Lived
I also remember the baker's that you recall. It was called Chemney's. Their bread, barm cakes, cakes and meat and potato pies have never been bettered as far as I'm concerned. Their little bakehouse stood on some land behind the shop we call the back entry. Sometimes we got to 'help' clean up after the days baking. The old man was called Tom. What a wonderful time we had growing up there. We lived at no.76, my mum and dad had a shoe shop next to Hudson's Post Office and Mellings Greengrocers. The Fred Done Betting shop took its place.
Fabulous!! I used to walk dow Broughton Road every day. First job at the Co.op but her/ green grocery next to the Maypole Hotel. I then went to work ar Mandlebergs.. down to Whit Lar to see my cousins and uncle and aunt.. I remember all of those places you mention. How fabulous to see and know these places. Many thanks.. nostalgia at its best. ,👏👏👍
So glad you enjoyed it Ida.
thank you lots of memories sad and happy ones i lived on gloucester st near the steps toffee shop 70/74 street at back was mona st.ward and goldstone had factory on gloucester st what did they make anybody got photos of gloucester st i live in the west of ireland now just love to see it again thank you all .john.
Just stumbled across this. Ward and Goldstone made 'Volex' electrical stuff - wire, plugs,sockets, fuse boards etc etc. Their building at 7:15 in the video is still there - just the one end of it as in the photo - it is now a car repair place, partly for a taxi firm, and I get my car MOTd there! cheers, Mark
Happy memories, saw the first tescos I ever went in.
Well put together, thanks for sharing
Brilliant! Thank you David. A propa trip down memory lane 👍I was brought up dow Broughton lane, borough St, next to radio rentals.we use to sneak in, and play in huge bins full of broken TV screens. Thinking back Crazy thing to do. I also attended Cromwell. Once again thank you. Subscribed
Thanks Wayne, I was always up and down Borough St during the 60's. I lived on Broughton Road and my girlfriend, now wife lived in Kent street. My wife worked at Radio Rentals for a while, she was always getting shocks from testing circuit boards with a piece of wood. There wasn't Health & safety in those days. Glad you enjoyed it.
A real nostalgia trip here (I'm a Rialto lad). Great soundtrack too, I love Tangerine Dream!
Brilliant! I lived more or less opposite Lissadel Street on Borough Street but here's the thing. I had memories of girls dancing around a maypole up there but nobody else remembered and in the end I thought it was the name of the Maypole pub that put the idea into my head and that I imagined it! Thanks to you I can see that it was a real thing! That shop - the Gaybox, it was a propr ironmongers that had pegboard on the wall and smelt of paraffin and carbolic. In the late 60's an elderly chap took over a shop on the corner of Borough street. It was candlelit and was basically a bric-a-brac and junk shop. The chap who ran it utterly fascinated me. He looked like he never had a wash in his life and looked like the cross between the first ever Dr Who (William Hartnell) and a character from a Dickens novel, complete with a bit of string to keep his coat fastened. He was also very well spoken with quite a posh accent. Over the years, I've never really met anybody who can remember this character. I'd love to know about him and his story - or is it a figment of my imagination? We called him 'Dirty Dick'. Last time I saw him, he was pushing a handcart past the civic centre near the old school.
Hello Alan, Thank you for your comments, I really enjoyed compiling it although I only had 10 seconds per photo for my commentary. The Gentleman with the bric a brac shop was known to us kids as "Dirty Dick" and I agree with all your comments about him and his beautiful accent albeit he had a lack of most of his teeth. He originally opened his first shop on Broad St, just a few doors past Hankinson St. A single story shack like building that was crammed with all sorts of rubbish. I remember buying a Map of the world off him for sixpence. It was an old school type one that hung on your wall with a stretch of cord. Unfortunately, the building burned down with all his stock maybe because of his use of bare candles he used to burn. Maybe I'm being unkind to him and it wasn't his fault! About 5 months later he opened his little shop on Broughton Rd next door to what used to be a pawn shop on the corner of Borough St. Here's another good story, One day my cousin called at our house with a bag of basically rubbish which her mother had sent her to sell to Dirty Dicks 'cos she was skint. She came back with 5 bob! I couldn't believe it so I immediately got together a shoebox and filled it with daft bit of rubbish. In the box I remember, was one football boot some dead batteries, boot laces and other valueless ephemera. I went across to Dirty Dicks and told him my mam had sent me. He gave me half a crown for the box of stuff! Looking back now, I feel guilty about exploiting him but was I? I don't think he was short of a bob or two and it was a life he wanted to live. I don't know what happened to him after that. Good memories all the same. Rona & Jack Cartwright took over the off licence at the Broughton Rd end of Borough St. They had about seven Children and I was good friends with their eldest son Johnny. David Cartwright is an avid user of the Salford sites of "Salford past & Present" and "Memories of the Old Whit Lane Area" I suggest you look these two sites up on FACEBOOK if you have the internet. Best Wishes Alan & Stay safe.
I remember Dirty Dick well. He had a shop on Whit Lane near the Clarence pub and facing the park in the early 1970s. His shop was ramshackle and full to the ceiling and we were always trying to sell him something or other. I remember him telling me that he also used to have a shop in Moss Side.
And yes I remember he had a well spoken cultured voice/accent.
@@davidseale8252 Hi David , there were , and still is , 8 of us Cartwright kids . I was born at 102 Broughton Rd , opposite your house .. As you said , we moved to the corner shop on Borough St when I was about 7 or 8 years old . We had a few good years in the shop , untilill the Bijou was turned into a supermarket , I think originally called Madsega , then Adsega , then Tesco . This put an end to the shop and shortly after our mam ran off with someone , so we were brought up by my dad , with lots of help from his sisters .
@@dacsceilings5 Hi Dacs, What number are you on the Cartwright sibling tree? It's good to hear you are all still going strong. Johnny must be 72 or 73 now and we were best mates at St Thomas's & Cromwell. I also remember David & Gillian and David is a regular contributor on the Salford Facebook sites. I remember playing in your long backyard on Broughton Road and sadly remember your family's demise at the off licence on Borough St. My mam got "on tick" at your shop. She couldn't get that at Adsega or tesco's. Hope you have a lovely Christmas, Pass my regards onto anyone who remembers me and stay safe.
@@davidseale8252 Thanks David, so glad I finally met someone who actually remembered dirty dick. I started to wonder if I imagined it all. A couple of other memories. There used to be a very scary elderly lady who used to turn up in the strangest black Victorian contraption - loosely you would call it a bath chair that she drove with hand pedals. and she used to scream at the kids because she needed a push to get up the slight rise from Borough Street onto Broughton Road at the side of Gold's Chemist. I gave her a push once and it weighd a ton. The other one was Mrs Addis who lived at 13 Borough Street - I was told she was related to the well-known Addis brush people. Anyway, one day she told me about when she was younger and worked in the mills, during WW1. I clearly remember telling me that one night, she looked up, and in her words "Eee, it was like a big silver fish in the sky". She was talking about a Zepplin which had raided the Ramsbottom area earlier.
You missed my Aunty Ivy’s paper shop out which was facing that “peacock park”, Victoria Wines off license was next door and just before the railway bridge.
I remember Pendleton train station very well as a kid and even then was impressed by the interior of the station which was all done in the original wood and with working gas lights illuminating the platform and waiting room, that was in the late 1960s early 1970s and seemed old fashioned but wonderful even then. Years after I had moved away from the area someone told me that vandals had burned it down.
(What a waste) I too was at Cromwell early to mid 1970s.
Hi Dave, I remember your Aunty Ivy's paper shop and went in frequently. I've searched and asked on the Salford sites for pictures of those two shops just on their own but none have been forthcoming. I was too young to go into Victoria Wines. I Mention in the clip about playing Cricket on the Platform with the Stationmaster, we also went around with him carrying new Gas Mantles while he lit the gas lamps. It was the only time he would let us cross over the line with him at the end of the platform to do the other side. I moved away to lower Broughton in 1970 after getting married but I didn't hear of it being burnt down! Thanks for watching.
@@davidseale8252 It always amazed me that they had a gas lit train station in the 1970s that was virtually unchanged from the original building. All wood and everything kept spic and span, just like walking into a living museum.
Thanks David very interesting watch, from a Glasgow boy.
Glad you liked it Iain. The only problem was I forgot to put my teeth in when doing the commentary!
@@davidseale8252 I think you got away with it. lol
Thank you very much for sharing with us. 😊
Great photos and commentary, thanks David
Thanks David for compiling this. So interesting, lots of very nostalgic memories.
That first building was actually called the Pendleton Civic Centre known as Pendleton House .It was next door to the old Pendleton Town Hall . and the Police St Clinic and Registrars Office
It housed The Coroners Office , The Citizens Advice Bureau , The Gas Board office , The Water Board The Electric Office ,The Council Rent and Housing Office including Repairs , there was also a room for meetings , The roof housed the local Siren that was used in emergencies ,
There were other local council depts added and of course taken to other buildings , behind this building was the Police St school and anti natal clinic which had a School nurse , the Dentists , Nit Nurse , and the school childrens health exam officer where you went to get your health certificate before you could get a paper round job or a butchers , grocers assistants job while you were still at school
It is now up for sale having been boarded up for years
Thank you John. I went in the police St clinic several times. The earlier photo mentioned this building as the National Assistance building but your explanation makes real sense. Thank you.
I had my tooth out at that dentist '
I worked at the brewery circa 1968,69 in the computer input department. This was my first job. The lady in charge was Alice, you worked there too. Mo, worked in an adjacent office with a lady called Lillian. Mo and I went for nights out with another friend Joan. I warmly remember both you and your sister. At that time you were madly in love with a lady whose name was Pat. You told the romantic story of the first time you fell for Pat , recalling every minute detail which had included her paisley patterned dress. I can remember your passion for sci/fi books , Asimov etc. I came from the part of Cheetham Hill that embraces Salford. I always felt more affinity with Salford and her people. To date, your presentation of the film, is closest to heart of this magnificent city. You provide the essence of the streets in which the nostalgic time traveller can wander.
Thanks for the reply Karen. You are who I thought you were. Sadly, Maureen died about 20 years ago(RIP). Unfortunately I don't remember an Alice (do you remember her surname? You were however a collegue of Rosa Hampson who also worked in the same office - she lived on Gt. Clowes St in Salford. Pat and I separated a long time ago but we are still married but I haven't been able to see her since the first lockdown. We had 4 children, two boys & two girls. The eldest is now 50, the youngest 40. I ended up staying at the brewery for 28 years becoming the Admin Manager for the last 5 years before it closed down. If you log onto "Salford's Yester Years on Facebook and click on media/Albums, the first album is for the Cook St Brewery and I have a lot of photo's on them of the brewery, I'm sure you will remember some of the places. Really good to hear from you and so pleased you like the video. Stay safe.
Wonderful history. Thank you David. Thanks for putting this together.
Love these old photos of where I lived,thanks David really appreciate your hard work x
Hiya David, I was watching videos of salford when I came across yours and noticed we have same surname and wonderd if we were related, My Dad was from same area , his mum and Dad parted when he was young, his name was John, his wife was Alma , his Dad was called George , I was born in salford but moved to Wales 33 years ago xx
There are some similarities Joanie but my dad's first wife was called Winifred Hayes, they both lived in Chadwick Street, Ordsall and were married on the 28th October 1916 at St. Bartholomews. If it is the same "John", I met him twice, Once when his mother died and the second time at my dad's (George) Funeral. We were half brothers but he was about 50 and me 21. So, What was your Grandma's name?
@@jonieseale9971 That's me Jonie, (is that your real name?). Maureen died a few years ago sadly but our Bev is still with us. Are you on Face book? you can message me on there even if you are not a member.
Hi Jonie I remember you from when we visited my St 🤗
I left messages on messenger xx
@@jonieseale9971 Thanks Jonie, It went into my spam files so I have only just read it. I've replied, can you still get on Facebook?
Enjoyed that 👍🏼..
great memories
thank you for making this
Do you have a sister called Maureen and did you ever work at the brewery, I have fond memories if you are indeed the same David Seale..... Thank you for a lovely film , Karen
Yes and yes Karen, what is your maiden name? Were you a friend of Maureen or me?
Nice story x
David, Nice video thank you .
thanks for the memories used to get my motor bikes from queens park motors i worked at posona textiles cobden st in the 70s
I bought at 2:50 Suzuki hustlers in 1975 And the 750 GT Suzuki water cooled In 1976 From Queen park the best year to have a motorbike
@@petewadsworth8492 76 was a very good year for biking lovely weather
Very Lowryesque figure of a boy on the first image.
Good work mate
Really good video David, great effort. Just by chance I had a couple of hours to kill only yesterday, so had a drive around this whole area looking for remnants of what once was there.
Braithwaites opticians.
Thanks so much for posting this! I was wondering if you have any old photographs of the butcher's shop that is now Big Boss Diner at Littleton Rd and Cromwell Roundabout? It's great to see what everything used to look like! I've lived here 12 years, and I love Salford as if it were me own!! Really appreciate this upload!
I haven't sorry linuxel33t but a photo has just come up on the Facebook "Salford Yester Years" site Copyright Eddie Smith. If the post is no longer on the front page, search for Littleton Road & Kersal to bring the album up.
The butcher's shop, was that the old Co-op.where my father, worked in the 1950s.
Happy memories. Thanks. Just need to know what the name of the restaurant was just up from the Railway? Had many great curries in there after a local pub crawl. Just cannot remember what it was called.
It was a greasy spoon Cafe in the 50's & 60's Nigel. I never knew the proprietors name but we used to meet up there for a meal every saturday before going to see the reds at old Trafford.
Rose of India
David, I am so sorry to hear about Maureen, she was a lovely, sweet and inoffensive person whose smile I will always remember. I remember Rosa, she was engaged to a bloke Peter who worked in the lab at the brewery. Alice Bleakley was about 50 at that time. It must have been devastating for you when the brewery closed down. I must admit I did not know, news and developments of this part of the world are miles away from me , literately, I have been living in Germany since 1989. I am not able to look on facebook as I do not have it. Therefore I will be unable to see the photographs that you had suggested. Your family sounds great! If you have an Email address, you could send that.
It is good to remember times gone by and is an exercise to keep the mind and soul busy.
Thank you for your news ,
Hoping to hear from you again, Karen
Hi Karen, As soon as I had sent that last message the name Blakely or Bleakley came to mind. I cannot for the life of me picture her face though. and i can picture peter from the lab. I do have an e-mail address but I cannot send any of my pictures through it as they are all too big, even as jpegs. The Brewery Tower and the Chimney are still standing as are some of the cook St Cottages. All now offices for Architects and Solicitors. The rest of the site including the buildings underneath the Railway Arches have now got small industrial buildings on them and are known as the "Deva Centre". Deva being the Roman name for Chester and the Brewery's main beer was Chester's Best Mild. Let me know if I can be of help with any info you want.
got my first bike ther
Thank you for your reply, Do you still have any contact with Rosa! I will describe Alice for you , she had silver hair, a ruddy face, (due to high blood pressure, I think) she was quite plump. She more or less ran our office before some older guy, I believe his name was David,
anyway he was into photography. I enjoy trying to remember different people from the past
probably because I do not have any family left there, I suppose it is good mental exercise as well. I have worked in many different companies and educational institutions but I recall the atmosphere , conditions and work friends of my first job with joy. Salford was truly a magical place. Through your film I am transported back there.
thank you Karen
Hi Karen, I can still only remember Alice vaguely. still can't picture her real face. In 1984 I bought my first house in Gt Clowes St. It was about 50 Yards from where Rosa Lived before she got married. Later on, she started working in the local corner shop and we got chatting. I think she had moved back to live with her parents but I didn't feel comfortable with asking her about her domestic arrangements. Later on she answered one of my posts on a Salford Facebook site so she is still local I believe. The David who took over from Alice was David Thompson, we became quite close and when he bought his first house in Abbey Hey, Gorton, we moved into his old rented house. My wife Pat was pregnant with our first child at the time. He died fairly young, in his late 40's I think of massive organ failure. The Lily you remember would have been Lillian Beck and I became her supervisor some years later and we moved into the general offices on Cook St.
got married there