What is the BEST FORWARD Facing Sonar in 2021?!
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- What is the BEST FORWARD Facing Sonar in 2021?! So far we have the Garmin Livescope which has recently been updated as well as the BRAND NEW Lowrance Active Target.... Which is the best? No joking around... No Bias..
I break it down into three different tests to get a good idea of what will actually be useful in REAL fishing situations.
Hopefully this helps answer some people's questions and helps YOU get a better idea of what is out there..
PS: Rumor has it that the new competitor will be emerging soon so stay tuned for my opinion on that as well!
#Fishing #Sonar #2021
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Wow lots haters on here..... lowrance won simply due to a narrower cone angle which gives more details. All of the image issues the others are talking about can be adjusted with the gain for perfect images. This video is about effective ranges. This type of settings would not necessarily be used in real life. My bet if you were not focused on range but instead focused on image quality the lowrance would still win. Smaller cone angle equals better images. Most on here are Garmin live scope users and just hating because they just got beat by lowrance. Yes Garmin was first but as of right now not the best.
100%
It seems very close actually. Lowrance has more aggressive post processing with some introduced artifacts, Garmin had the softer image. Don't get hung up on cone angle. 18 vs 20 deg is tiny and you don't know how they calculate it. It could actually be exactly the same angle and one company uses -3dB and the other -5dB etc. That happened with 2D transducers.
If someone does not have the same opinion that you have they aren’t automatically haters and btw a narrower cone angle has nothing to do with better details. Pls get your facts straight!
@@pyroozrat6565 It has everything to do with it as well as processing speed and so forth. Pop because you are infinite and all wise knowing please instead of talking like a smart ass why don't you provide us with information to disputed other than just your opinion........
@@pyroozrat6565 I love your response by the way. Your crappy ass electronics just got B and you sound like a whiny crybaby because you got out done. You make a lot of hater comments without anything to back it up.... And O yes I eagerly await your witty response to my previous.... You wanna dance with me let's dance will see what you really know
I'm a Lowrance guy but I swear the dang Garmin looked way better to me. I guess I just don't know what I'm looking at lol
I have a garmin for my kayak with no live scope. To me Lawrence looks better. Tough to call this
I switched to Garmin for everything from Lowrance. When he was trying to pick up the A rig, the Garmin showed way more detail on the bottom out to 60-70 feet. The Lowrance was nearly just a blank screen.
weird how people perceive things. I switched to Humminbird from Lowrance. never tried Garmin. Closer in, Garmin picked up the structure better. But picking up the fish farther out, Lowrance clearly looked better to me. 20:43 is the prefect example. I know it's not simultaneous, but overall, it looked like Lowrance did a better job of picking up the individual fish.
Id have to agree the Garmin looked better
Definitely Garmin was better
Everyone around the bridge just waypointed those two bouy markers.
Best comment ive seen in a while
Lol
Even the guy in the kayak was taking in some visual sight references with the bridge piling's and a tree off in the distance 🤣🤣
funny!
Jacob: “ I can see fish 🐟 “
Me: 👁👄👁 >l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l
I feel like the unbias review was a little more bias then some will admit. The garmin to me was the better from what I could see.
Yeah for sure 👍
I agree, maybe distance was a bit short for the garmin. But I could not stand that pulsating the lowrance unit was giving off.
#Truestory
Most definitely
The screen on the Lowrance jumping around would drive me crazy
It’s moving way to much
That’s him moving the trolling motor
That Garmin moves the around too when the trolling motor moves as well
@@codypetersen2987 I’ve got a livescope it doesn’t pulse like that
@@brandonhollingsworth306 That’s what I’m saying
Thank You for the comparison video. I sure was hoping this forward facing sonar attempt from Lowrance would cause some competition. I’m also looking forward to seeing what Humminbird’s attempt looks like and how Garmin responds!
YOU AND M D J ARE WITHOUT A DOUBT TWO OF THE BEST OUT THERE AND YA'LLS VIDEO'S ARE NOT ONLY ENTERTAINING BUT EXTREMELY INFORMATIVE. THE CHANNEL IS AWESOME THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME OUT OF YOUR LIFE TO SHARE WITH ALL OF US GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY PLEASE BE SAFE
Lowrance had that weird pulsing on the screen hurts my Eyes 🔊🔊Garnin is better...the reason the picture is more clear on the lowrance because the beam isn’t as wide
Lowrance had UFO'S
@@jamiejohnson1200 exactly 😂
Lol the wider beam is least defined but see more, the smaller beam = see more but less. The pulsing had something to do with recording I believe. Watching his actual screen I did see it on his. Mine doesn’t do it either.
That looks like it might be interference from the 360. I'm not sure if he had the 360 spinning, and if so, what frequencies the 360 was pinging. But yeah, the flashing/pulsing on the Lowrance was not good.
@@techbassfishing6133Yeah there’s no telling
This why your the best, you put it to the test and give good information all the time big THANKS, now got to save for the new transducer update... BIG THANKS
Great stuff for sure. Since I already dropped my $$ on Livescope, and have been amazed at the performance, I will not be buying the Live target. Been a Garmin guy for years and will stay with them. Look forward to more analysis in the future though for sure. In my mind, neither is the end-all be-all, and both are just additional tools to employ during the fishing day. Thanks!
Good comparison overview. Looks like Lowrance has a bit more power in length. But the issue I see with Lowrance has a lot more blurry/noise objects that scan across the screen. Not sure if what that is. Garmin seems to be a clearer all around image.
The static in the lowrance is driving me crazy. I think they show about the same detail in that 40-60ft range. I think Garmin still has the edge on this forward facing sonar. Great video!!!
Love my garmin, livesight has that static drives me crazy, thought the bottom image and actual fish look better on the scope!!!
That static was crazy but if it didn't have the static I say it would win but yu can prolly change it right with setting?
great video! looking into the whole live imaging gear myself. Currently have a solix 10, so Humminbird may be a great option for me. if the system performs well. although, I am considering adding a unit at the bow. This video gives me some good insight on a side by side view. Thank you! Good luck this season! always been a fan.
Rare to see such an honest straight forward analysis! Keep up the good work my friend!
I've had livescope for just over a year. The narrow beam on the Lowrance probably helps to see things a little bit further out. In my experience with LS, once you get it dialed in for your particular conditions (water clarity, turbulence etc.) it is pretty easy to find your bait and know what's going on. I usually keep my unit around 100ft out and 30-50' deep, depth depending on which lake. I can easily see my a rig at those settings, and can see jigs, swimbaits, spinnerbaits, and jerkbaits. It has definitely changed my fishing and allowed me to catch a lot more fish by finding additional structure, or seeing how fish react to your bait. My vote still goes to Garmin based on this video, but ultimately it's better for all of us when there is competition. Better innovations and lower prices when they compete.
Great video my guy . I’ve been debating on what to go with and this is hands down the best video I’ve found 👍🏽 ordering Lowrance tomorrow. Thanks!
Thats one of the best, most informative, videos on this topic. My eyes definitely pick up the Garmin better. I don't know if it's just the colors but this was great content as usual.
Was so nice to see ya again out there on the water Jacob. If you look you can see us out there fishing @ %:27, 5:38, and 7:50, @ 7:50 we landed a 2 lber off the riff raff and are squated down while one of the guys on the bank snapped a few photos. Our gopros died and threw errors invalid sd on our footage. Again thanks for being cool my son loves your videos, and ty for coming aboard and signing our motor cowl!
Awesome content! The effort on this doesn't go unnoticed
Just in the process of trying to decide on the big three. I have been a Hummingbird user for a long while now. Thanks for the comparison video here. After looking at many videos I think the Garmin has better clarity. Probably gonna purchase my first in a week or 2. Thank you for your input and videos.
I appreciate the informative videos. Keep em coming!
Thanks Jacob great video , and I have to admit I agree with you about the soft plastics I text you about. They are. Very fragile , thanks for your input 👍
I gotta say this is 110% the best comparison video between these 2 brands on the internet 👏 👌 keep up the awesome work !! Secondly I don't see a whole lot of difference besides lowrance being slightly less grainy and a little better range but also has alot more interference on the screen so idk 🤔
That was “ultimately” the most ultimately’s I’ve ever heard in one video! 😂. Good video JWheelz. I had to raz you a little. Good luck this season. I hope you have an ultimately great year of fishing. 🇺🇸🎣🤙🏽
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@@WheelerFishing in all seriousness Jacob, you are the man. After I got outta the service you are one of the biggest fisherman I followed to get me back into the sport. Tight lines my friend, and best to you in all future endeavors! 🇺🇸🎣🤙🏽
Thanks for the comparisons that helped out!
The lowrance had me feeling like I was playing space invaders, those UFO’s coming in and off the screen drove me nuts.
exactly what I was thinking too! pew..pew..pew..
LOL! Just played that game at an arcade last week!!!
Good stuff Wheeler! 👊🏼💯🇺🇸
Thanks for the information my friend!
Great information. I wanted to see other videos to aid in my search for which way to go. I’ve been looking toward Garmin and wondering about the setup on a 52 inch shaft. I’m also running a core 360 as well. I just purchased the precision sonar mount and ready to make the jump once I find the “Deal of a lifetime”... lol
in the process of installing mine. Cant wait!!
Thanks for doing this Jacob! It was very helpful. Honestly, I thought the Lowrance was better in some of the areas you pointed out, but that weird pulsing going across the screen would be a deal breaker for me. It bothers my eyes. Also, in looking over the forums and some of the guys I’ve talked to at the landing after fishing I’ve noticed several folks have switched from Lowrance to Garmin or Humminbird. Most of them their reasoning was the same and it was because they had problems with Lowrance’s service. However, to be fair that was in the past. I would be very curious to know if Lowrance has stepped up their game in that area or if it is still the same. That would be my biggest concern and why I would go with Garmin as my brother has had excellent customer service with Garmin.
Jacob your tech videos are great. I've been wanting to go out and purchase a new unit, but honestly after seeing this video I think the Garmin had better quality and more stable imaging than the Lowrance. Appreciate the comparison and don't get rid of your Garmin.
Good stuff; thanks for the info and the comparisons
Thanks very helpful! I am considering the Lowrance Active Target.
I expect the views on this to hit 50k!! Great video! Great info! It’s impressive to see where pros put their money when careers are on the line! Sponsored boats mislead us sometimes
Badass video Wheels. Helping the average feller out. I like it ole Son.
THank you. i was looking at bthe constant binterferance going across the lowrace screen waiting for him to mention it but he never did. Lowrance 2nd Gen might be something else but from the videos ive seen they shoudve waited to come out with there live sight. The only pros i see using lowrance of garmin are ones who are clearly indorsed by lowrance.
Thanks Jacob. It seems to me like you presented as even a view as possible. But sounds like a lot of the folks had their own opinion before you started...... not really fair.
My situation is that my boat has Lowrance HDSLive and I'm considering adding active target. If I went to garmin or humminbird the additional cost would be prohibitive for a casual fisherman. But it did show me that getting the Lowrance version would be just fine! Thanks to you and all the other great fisherman on MLF (MDJ, Edwin, Ott, even your boy DC) for all the great TV watching experiences same with the You tube and Instagram stuff. Ding!
Great, unbiased, review mate - both look very good.
🔥🔥Active image all the way,I can’t wait for the ice in Massachusetts to melt so I can start using mine 🔥🔥
This is how ALL comparison videos should be made!! GREAT JOB!!!
they both had their moments...i like the structure view on the garmins better but the fish show up better on the lowrance...so hmmm...look forward to the mega live!
You always increase my fishing knowledge thank you jw
Awesome video. I wish I could pick your brain in person one time. I live 15 minutes from wiedas marine. I’m looking to buy my first boat this year and they have one out there I like in my budget. I’m also going to try and compete in the bass pro us open and fish the qualifier down at old hickory in Nashville. Anything you could have to pass along knowledge wise would be amazing. Keep up the amazing videos and good luck on the upcoming season. I’m pulling for ya.
Great Video both units look been similar. Keep them coming.
Great comparisons Champ!
Great comparison, thanks Jacob!
Good unbiased wish there were more like this waiting to see what the Hummingbird looks like cause I can only afford one I want to make the right choice. this has not made my mind up yet. Thanks
You asked a question, what we caught our first fish on ,it had to be a green head or bread on a hook. But first fish on a lure was using a Red devil spoon casting to a stump, and the spring scale read 6.5 lbs , that was the summer of 1968 , and needless to say I was also hooked
Garmin looks very smooth. I can tell exactly what I’m looking at. I prefer Garmin, and I have Lowrance on my boat.
Good luck at your next event, hopefully it'll warm up some.
Great video was exactly what I have been searching for A++
Best content I have seen. Thanks
Thank you for doing this video it was very informative.
*Looks good even in daylight **enjoyable.fishing** recommend it was exactly what it was described to be , works awesome , overall happy with product*
Thanks for this great video. Can't wait for a comparison with the new Humminbird Mega Live Imaging, when it's available. Takes too long 😔
Thanks for this video. Well done.
Saw this video about 2 years ago and had to revisit it!! Thanks for sharing!!😎👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
Both are good. From what I viewed, the Lowrance is improved clarity. I am sure competition will continue to improve.
Great video JWheels. Is there an updated garmin available? Just wondering what that image is like compared to old version and active target since it was just released.
Definitely good video about them graphs thumbs up
I really appreciate the way you do the comparisons and showing us how each shows targets I think the Lowrance was easier to see details more clearly
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I have a question that's I'm sure has been answered several times. Is there anyway to widen the beam from the forward facing sonar on the Garmin? I'll be watching my a-rig come through the water and then is the boat moves a little, I lose it. Thanks for any help
Excellent video an great wisdom on identifying fish
Great testing process..... Thanks young man
So I plan on getting my first boat and looking at graphs. I do alot of 3-15ft flipping and ripping through brush. Which graph would you recommend? I would like to try the deeper stuff on occasion.
It's a good comparison. Thank you.
Thanks man helped alot my friend
On thing the updates that will come will make both units so much better over time. I don’t know which company has the better reputation for support but that’s who I would think you want go with
What graph mount is that on the front of your new boat for the 3 graphs?
Jacob, can you explain how you combine the HB360 with the FF Sonar? Do you use the 360 to scout the area, then use the FF sonar to focus on detail? I assume depth plays a factor? Would love to see/hear even more detail on how you combine these different technologies. Thanks for taking the time to help us all out.
Just curious, I heard you mention that the Garmin was at 67% gain which seems a little low to me. What was the gain set at on the Lowrance? If it was 95% that might explain a difference in distance.
Color gain was higher, 80% plus. I normally only run 62%-70% on the regular gain that you can adjust on the screen just because if you go any higher it will blow out.
Just run auto gain , then adjust from their if you want to see a little more but not much more past auto because it will blow out.
Looks like lowrance has missed the boat for the second time. Especially my boat. I will stay with the garmin. Thanks for the video.
I’m getting ready to update again so I’m very interested in different options out there!
I could see the fish better on the garmin thanks man helped alot
Definitely. He is not going to call out his new sponsor for the year saying another product is better... lol
@@honicanfishing his not sponsored by Lowrance
@@jonasnorlund2500 well he didn't pay for it that is for sure. It was given to him to use. So it kind of is a sponsorship. Why else would you switch to a different unit when you learned one so well the previous year? Lol. He is not going to knock them if they are giving him free stuff. Like they say, "Do not bite the hand that feeds you".
@autoxr84 he gets it free from academy the same way he gets the rest of his units free.
@@lukeiles8011 either way this year he is sponsored by Lowrance.
You should give away your old boat could really use it lol. Really good information like the videos bud keep them going and good luck this year
Thanks so much for the video Jacob!! Now can u tell me where I can buy it for the best price? Any negotiations with any place or let’s say military discount available?
Great job, very interesting.
Can't wait to watch you kick butt at redcrest and this year 👊
I own the Garmin Livescope and was getting really unclear images with the factory trolling motor shaft mount. I upgraded to the Summit Fishing trolling motor mount, so I can adjust the transducer angle and wow that made all the difference in the world. The factory Garmin Mount kicks the transducer off at an angle so it does not pick up the trolling motor foot, so at further distances the picture quality decreases big time.
Jacob, can you reply which mounts you are using for both units in this comparison video?
Thanks
Dude I love your videos ur an amazing angler
Thanks man that was good 👍🏽.
Thanks so much. I’ve been trying to make a decision.
Wait on hummingbird
Will you be testing the humminbird MEGA LIVE once it comes out?
Thanks man appreciated your awsome
Your at Wolftever bridge haha I didn't know you were from here,cool video👍
Right down the road 🤙
Thanks definitely buying the garmin.
Which one should I get? Garmin Striker Vivid 9sv or Lowrance Hook Reveal 9" tripleshot?? Would like opinions based on features and tech and not preferences over a name. Or should I get some other one?
All that static on the Lowrance would drive me crazy! Is it from the trolling motor since the Garmin boat had the Minn kota?
Good deal.... I’ll be following you to see how it goes
Big fan Jacob and awesome video comparison but I have the livescope and I think it shows more details.
Thanks Mr. Wheeler nice comparison. We are all spending big money and don't know what we have till it's spent and on the boat.. Now in March do the new bird.
I thought Garmin looked better. Not as much noise. Almost like the gain was cranked higher on the Lowrance. Signal blotchs appearing on the Lowrance, Or maybe its my eyes LOL. Hope the settings and cone angle were set similar. Both look good, incredible technology. Great video Jake.
Which one do you feel has most detail if dishing boat docks in 5-20 can u ft of water
I live on lake moultrie on santee cooper lakes in sc,,am 65 and have fished lake all my life,,i have finally convinced myself to spend some of my kids imheritance on a forward looking sonar unit setup...i have glaucoma so i need something clear and easy to see,,,i fish mainly shallow water areas of lake for bass and bream.crappie etc,,which is best for me lowrance or garmin,,i love the idea of being able to scan a cove and see if there is any fish and if do where they are ,,,some friends say pan optix is better for deep fishing,,,your expertise is welcomed,,also WHERE is best place to buy,,i cant find a single palce offering any discounts even for military or retired law enf
Awesome video thanks a lot I am fixing to upgrade I want to put somthing in the front of my boat
I have heard many people complain of interference using active target in conjunction with mega 360. On the other hand you can keep garmin livescope one inch from your 360 pod with no interference. I would also say a wider cone is better esp because most of us bass guys have our live technology on trolling motor mounts. (Live scope user, never used active target but im sure it works well)
Good video...i wish you would make a video of just plain graphs. Like a lowrance elite 9 t1. Thanks
Great Job Jacob
Livescope is better...but does it justify having to buy a separate Garmin unit? Active Target saves you 2K because you can use just one unit.
I have a Garmin I recently bought but haven’t bought the correct transducer yet to show the forward facing. I do plan to purchase very soon. I have to say to me the Garmin looked cleaner but maybe since I’ve never used on the water I may be wrong.