Natasha does not have the power to give Bryoni a chance to compete at Miss Universe. I think that's delusional or arrogant of her to say. The Miss Universe participants contract does not allow a woman to compete more than once PERIOD. Equally I understand that saying she gave Bryoni the opportunity to compete at Miss Universe, will allow Natasha to be saint like.
She was talking about miss supranational which she is still eligible to compete to. And yes she gave the opportunity to other girls by not going internationally during her reign. It’s not arrogant.
@@Bernicemaboko that's the thing, Natasha is actively saying in interviews that she is not competing at Miss Universe because she wants to " give other women an opportunity ". It's not her opportunity to give. Natasha does not qualify for Miss Universe thus she can't say she gave Bryoni a chance.
Something is off about this year...the more I look back and what took place, something doesn't add up, I have never be conflicted about Ms SA till this year....
Things aren’t always perfect, Steph has been doing a good job at running Miss SA for a few years now and putting together a good brand for Miss SA , one year of a slip up does not mean it’s badly managed. Let’s give them a chance they wil learn from their mistakes, even Miss Universe isn’t always on point .
This is so true!!! As a South African, I think Steph and the organization have been doing a great job. Every year can't be the same and perfect. Let's give them a chance. There are many things that happen in MU that are also not always perfect!!!
No,point of correction the arena was packed to capacity.I was there and a lot of people came in a bit late as with the other years.remember there are rules and when they go live all doors must be closed and whoever is outside can only come in during ad break. I can share videos to fact check if you need to
No stop lying, there were empty seats at the Arena, at the top up there and it was many. There was basically patches and patches of unoccupied seats during throughout the telecast.
@@mambo5014 I don’t know what you are try to prove and by the way the area u claim was empty was even the cheapest of all areas of the arena so your statement doesn’t make sense atleast if you had said VIP maybe coz the tickets where more pricy but again they were sold out
@@lorrenzom l am saying the venue was not sold out like last year. It don’t matter if it was VIP or extra strong seats but Miss SA venue had a lot of empty seats compared to 2019, 2022, 2023. That tells me something went wrong this year. Could be the late release of tickets but Miss SA fumbled big time this year.
Lol. You have always said Natasha is not genuine so why does this surprise you? This is one more reason why Natasha should not have won. Her ego was severely damaged back in 2020, her competing was purely based on repairing her ego. Now she is running around lying as if the choice to compete internationally was hers when we all know it isn't and if she had a say of going to Miss Supranational, she would be running to Poland.
If Stephanie wants to make Miss Universe the main title at Miss South Africa then it should be called Miss Universe South Africa pageant. Then someone can take the license for Miss Supranational South Africa separately.
Maybe next time they should start selling the tickets a month out not 2 weeks out .. that was so unprofessional .. how are people supposed to book accommodation, outfits, plans etc
I think that reality show killed the show. We all already know what was gonna happen. Maybe that’s why people didn’t buy the ticket. They need to change the format. Have about 50 girls and top 15 and keep everything secret until the end of the show. Fans are not happy when you send their favorite girl home I would buy it take it either if my favorite didn’t make it.
This is what I’ve been waiting for! As an international fan, I’m too lazy to be following the drama going on over there so I’ve been waiting for this video because I know that Rina will be serving up and summarizing all the tea. Thanks girl!
Can I just say something . I am currently living in Thailand and watched MUT 2023 and I can honestly tell you, Miss SA Org and sponsors can come learn from the MUT Org, sponsors and production team how to put a final show together. MUT started at 20h30 on Sunday evening and within an hour they were down as follows Start with 53 girls Then down to 20 Then down to 12 Then down to 5 And then down to 3 The last 90 minutes was all about the top 3 and it was fast paced. Steph and the Miss SA Org rely to much on come back girls and I persoanlly feel that this year they begged Natasha, Bryoni, Jordan and Melissa to re-enter and they know by adding the two strongest girls against new comers Jordan and Melissa would be the buffer to make it not so obvious that Natasha and Bryoni will be in the Top 2. Dont get me wrong Bryoni was my choice for Miss SA 2023 from the day she "announced" she is entering again. I personally think that every country must be forced by MU Org to follow the cannot enter a second time. To end off,I personally don't feel Natasha deserves the Miss SA crown at all and as a Afrikaans speaking person, she did lie in the RSG interview.. there was no "lost in translation as per CEO of miss SA Org, Steph Wells, she is English so maybe she translated the Afrikaans to English wrong by using Google translate😂
I have actually seen an interview where natasha said that she is allowed to go to miss universe and the organization allowed her but she chose against it. I can't find the video now though 😢
The Miss SA org deserves this after they put down other girls harshly on Crown Chasers. Remember, how they treated Kea, Jordan and esp Melissa. Melissa took the criticism like a champ. They fed into Natasha's ego.
Rina: oh my goodness what a flipping drama-rama have you exposed to us ! Thank you for your excellent video & obviously well researched information! All I can say is that this year’s Miss SA has gone into absolute shambles ! I have been following Miss SA for the past almost 50 years! I had so much respect for how the current Miss SA organisation recently showcased our pageants & were groundbreaking in certain aspects!
For clarity, I interviewed Natasha on my Radio show and she confirmed that the Miss Universe Organisation actually allowed her to come back and compete & represent South Africa again. She Declined, because she wants to be Miss South Africa 🇿🇦
And the Miss SA CEO corrected that and said no one is allowed to compete more than once at Miss Universe. So does that mean Miss Universe told only Natasha to come back and compete and she declined without informing Miss SA that she was offered this opportunity😂😂😂.
@@mambo5014lol I really feel like Natasha is so dilulu since winning South Africa and being such a crowd favorite at MU 2020 - she thinks she’s the best thing to happen to Miss SA. Miss U will never allow a lady to compete twice at MISS U! She crazy
Miss SA org made a few blunders this year and they lost some following. Let me just outline this: 1. Having 7 contestants is a definite no, they lost some people who would have attended and bought tickets just to support they fam/contestants. 2. People are angry with Natasha’s win and it looked racist, the fact that they accommodated her like this. 3. Their conflict resolution needs work.
Why is Natasha's win racist? Because she is white? Remember Demi Leigh Nel-Peters was the last white woman who won Miss SA in 2017 exactly 6 years before Natasha. Between them only black women won Miss SA and mostly black women used to be in the top 3 with the exception of Tamaryn Green who won in 2018 is a cape coloured. There is nothing racist here.
Rina, you are so obsessed with Miss SA Queens, you tend to forget that Miss SA main purpose is to fulfil the duties of South African interest just like miss France, you need to find healing with whatever miss SA have done to you. every year you criticize our Queens and you spread negativity against miss SA. with regard to interviewers of Natasha, you must process the fact that South Africa is not a high pageant country. we don't care about international pageants, you must refer your energy to Latins and Asians who are so much vested into international pageants.
She didn’t say otherwise she spoke facts if you’ve worked for a pageant organisation u would know the the crowned winner isn’t bigger than the organisation So Natasha can’t take decisions without having validation from the miss sa organisation same for miss universe,miss earth whatever So for Natasha to say I decided not to go I’m giving my place to bryoni I’m only serving my country Is insane cause she’s not giving bryoni anything that’s what was decided by the organisation already and we all know why ! And if the organisation wanted Natasha to attend miss super national she wasn’t gonna have the power to say A or B unless the organisation agrees with her excuse to not participate or whatever So her crown isn’t bigger than the organisation. So rina is speaking facts U must know that the organisation is putting a lots of money on her she’s basically living on them for a year U really think she has more power than the organisation?
Miss SA in my view is functioning as Miss France. I also think Natasha is using her brand power to actually create more brand value and endorsments for Miss SA. This is the main revenue stream for Miss SA
Natasha will be representing SA at Supra. My theory is Natasha announced her non participation with the hope that the fans will beg and boom Miss SA will announce “you asked and we listened” 🙄
Rina reading and spitting facts😂. Ek kan nie glo sy't dit gese nie 😮. Plus, its crazy Miss SA wants to charge Zozi for styling, Steph slowly becoming Anne
South africa should seperately conduct miss universe south africa for selecting representative to mu if they give so much importance to national paegent ,now tomm.bryoni will also want to be miss SA,then again 1st runner up will be send to miss universe ,like this south africa will loose it's charm in mu ,
2020 bruised Natasha's ego, understandably so, but she was always wanted to prove a point. The "humble" narrative that was used this year was quite laughable. For her to go on a public platform to lie was just to feed her ego. Episode 1 crown chasers showed her arrogance and entitlement when she didn't win. At least Bryoni is down to earth, I hope she does well.
Natasha knows that she was not gonna place again if she went to Miss U, the girl is not gifted when it comes to giving solid answers. Obviously this crown was given to her on a silver platter from the start of crown chasers, definitely not rocket science.
After two years or months, Miss South Africa will turn to Miss Universe South Africa and someone will take Miss Supranational South Africa license like Miss World.
Just because she was invited to come back and win Miss SA she also convinced herself that Miss Universe will do the same. She has repeated this wish in her head many times and ended up saying it on national radio. Power of lies.
South Africans are not pageant fans like other nations. I do not think you must blame the journalists for being less informed. To be honest with you, South Africans only know Zozi as Miss SA . People care very little about pageants in Africa as a whole Yes we might have won and are called a power house but i tell you the truth South Africans care very little .A huge number of them i am telling you . Whoever came before or after Zozi is insignificant. They care nothing about the rest but Zozi. Ask even a taxi driver , they know Zozi. That is why they are less informed. I am not sure why you are saying Bryoni cannot go to Miss Supra because Miss Universe will be offended??? How were they offended when Lalela did both? Are you not contradicting yourself?
But Rina, I feel like Miss SA org has been riding under the radar regarding these international pageants. For me, for Natasha to be putting out her own statement that “she’s giving another girl a chance to go international” Is WILD! Miss sa should be in the forefront of this information. And they should be the ones that put that information out!
You Guys....who do you guys think was in charge of the MU page when they were in South Africa🤷. R'bonney,the Ceo. They know Natasha. Maybe we can exclude R'bonney but the other two knew and were there during the entire thing. Truth is they knew but y'all can convince yourselves other wise. But l won't say she was giving another woman a chance. Like what?
Thank you very much for this vid and your personal analysis. I fully agree with your take. There seems to be something 'brewing' there by Stephanie Weil 'club'. Case in point is Zozi's issue. Stephanie's response to Zozi's no show at the finale doesn't cut the mustard for me. Coming to who will represent SA at the Miss Supranational pageant this year, I see no reason(s) why can't the reigning Miss SA go and compete. That she, Natasha want to concentrate on her role and duties of Miss SA, is very lame to say the least. Stephanie needs to explain clearly the reason behind that decision (if indeed it has concluded that way). Miss SA Org. can't be sending 'runner ups' to the international pageant when the reigning queen is available!
I am Afrikaans and that girl lied just makes 1 wonder ....I was a Vip won a ticket that red carpet was a mess by the time I was gonna take a photo I was so over it my friend who bought R1500 ticket had the worst experience did not even get food that Vip seats are the worst yes Its a mess
The finale was on a Sunday next day a working Monday, a wrong date was picked. Last year it was on a Saturday and very full. They picked the wrong day. Miss SA decision making is so questionable and the lack of accountability is so dissappointing. I am just waiting for Miss SA to tell us Natasha will be going to Miss Suprinational if Bryoni does well at Miss Unirvese
I think that they moved it to Sunday to keep the same slot they had agreed to with S3. If they had moved it to Saturday that would have conflicted with the usual S3 schedule especially since they had already taken the Sunday slot for Crown Chasers.
Ai tog, you are so cynical, give the girl a break. She well deserved the title. Don't run her down cos of Miss U, imagine being asked in every interview the same question and try and answer differently each time, yes, she shouldn't have said that on RSG but to start inventing a conspiracy theory is pathetic.
Where were all these comments when Steph brought us Two Miss Universe crowns within a space of a year ?? Not even the old Miss SA organization did that. These are slip ups, they will learn and do better. Give them a chance
@@mobyntsane4174my dear, she may have succeeded then, she’s failing now. She has turned once esteemed organisation into a scam. We paid for a stream, it didn’t work. There was NO ACKNOWLEDGMENT FROM MANAGEMENT. Where did she get her management qualification? Does she have one? That is NOT how you run a business. A complete failure.
I was there last year, definitely not a VIP ticket, but I felt the live pageant wasn't made for the audience. It was clear that the setup was tv, and we were part of the show... even though we paid to watch the pageant. As soon as they said "see you after the break," everything stopped. It was not a great experience. We were even told we couldn't go in cause we were 20 minutes late...after standing in a line to enter the arena from parking for 2 hours.
One of the duties of a reigning Queen is to represent her county internationally.Why they wasted money on this show is beyond me and they're going to waste Designers time , Bryoni's time to train and expenses just to go to el Salvador to fail coz definitely she's not placing and I get it if at National level you didn't believe in a girl why should an international pageant believe in her... she'll be unplaced.
WHEN I SEE NATASHA ALL THE TIMES, I SAY TO MYSELF, "AVERAGE LOOKING BEAUTY QUEEN" !!!!! There is no way under the sun she fits the title to be crowned MISS UNIVERSE like ZOZIBINI or a Miss World like ROLENE STRAUS.NATASHA simply does not have that X FACTOR but i'm not meaning to say that she is dead ugly !!!! BUT SHE IS INDEED averaged regardless of giving some good answers to a couple questions during the last staging and coronation of Miss SA
you are really harsh on Natasha. You always focus on her miss universe past and always drag her. You dont put her miss universe past behind her. lets focus on her being miss South Africa and what shes doing with the crown. you have always been negative about her and you always say " i like natasha " after critizing her harshly
I for one rooted for Natasha from the get go. But I listened to her interview on RSG (Only her interview I do not usually listen to RSG😂) and I was so disappointed! I hate it when someone tells lies and she told this lie to make herself look even better!
Finally subscribed 😊 The whole situation is messy messy Nothing is making sense I personally think Natasha wanted to compete internationally but either the owner of miss universe was not having it or as u said the license is over and they dropping it which is sad cause they are acting like dogs for miss universe now so sad. Natasha is not bigger thn the organisation if thy wanted her there she would be there Anyways good luck to bryoni for miss univers with work she will do great. Great video
Why would she lie? It just doesn't make sense. If she lies then obviously she knows she'll be in trouble. So why lie? It then makes sense why she said she wants to give Bryoni a chance to compete. Because she can give that chance in MU invited hee back. I honestly think she was telling the truth.
Shame Natasha shouldn’t have made that statement about being allowed to compete at miss universe . She’s going to have a tough reign especially because it seems as though a lot of people aren’t happy with her win. Nevertheless, I like Natasha, and I wish the girl all the best.
Why didn't they send Shudamafu instead to Miss Universe? She did not went to MU since Natasha was sent instead of her. She had to wait for months since Miss World was postponed 2x.
Rina, I wish you would spend the same amount of time and energy with analysing Miss Namibia like you do with Miss SA. None of us have the facts and until then we can't be making videos that are discrediting the Miss SA organisation. Stop your sensationalism and start posting videos with substance and facts like your fellow pageant analysts.
Miss SA has no order with regards to announcements this year. I mean why were ticket sales announced so late and why hasn't Briyoni been announced as MU SA by the org yet??
I think you’re being a bit harsh to Natasha… she’s living her dream and is still trying to sunk in and has such a busy schedule already. Absolutely loved your last video about Miss SA and you made some EXACT predictions but this one got me disappointed… we all knew she wanted to be Miss South Africa, it’s on her comeback announcement
😂😂😂😂😂 a bit too harsh? If you know Rina you know she love Natasha even had her on her wishlist for Miss SA. Now Natasha lied on that interview she lied and Rina is just telling it as it is. Unlike you some pageant fans are objective in their reasoning and are not blinded by fandom. Rina is just calling a spade a spade
I've said it before, and I will say it again: Natasha is a complication. Perhaps it's good that she came up with the "I'm doing this for the Miss SA crown" but what she and the Miss SA organisation will not successfully do is to draw a line between Miss SA and and, let's say, Miss Universe SA for example. Case in Point is Natasha herself after MU 2020. Based on performance, of course Natasha did well and deserved to win.
Love you reviews but you wrong the pkace was packed I been there and honestly why make a bigdeal out of wht natasha said...note natasha was nt my 1st chouce stop the gossiping geeze
Why were you awed that interviewers are not upon pageant details as you are, particularly, that she will not be able to compete in Miss Universe or Miss World? Not all persons follow pageant religiously as pageant fans and the said interviewers were relying on standard information that they were aware of; specifically, that Miss South Africa usually competes in Miss World and Miss Universe and not familiar with: 1. The Miss Universe 1 chance competition rule and/or that she even competed previously and 2. That Miss South Africa relinquished the Miss World franchise Pageants heyday have come and gone! As a result, they no longer hold significance in people's mind including journalists as they used to do. So get over your aweness ...about interviewers not being up-to-date on something that maybe on the way of becoming extinct, as well as, so much more happening in the world thst requires more attention and knowledge than domeone winning and competiting in pageants. BTW, I am a pageant fan
Lol you are one lousy pageant fan. Pageant fandom aside lemme educate you on media interviews by they radio or tv the hosts have to educate theirselves first about the particular guest and the particular topic he/she will talk about. One cannot feign ignorance that's just the golden rule of hosting a guest. So whether it's pageantry, politics or sports the host must be well informed in case the guest decides to lie 😂 like in the case of Natasha (point in case).
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Hahaha no wonder anc is always winning elections you are lied to and the only thing you focus on is lies not the credibility of the person behind them..now that she's lied point blank in that interview, are you even sure she was telling the truth about that 1 million rand (whatever the figure she said) in bursaries?
Stop talking shit, lalela was second runner up and her successor was in the top 16 obviously miss SA organisation has been doing great...not the same can be said about your country Namibia
Tell that to Miss SA duh the organization is calling her that first runner up in their post of and about her. So why crucifying Rina here for something emanating from the organization? You are crazy
@@ernestchikope4751 APOLOGIES It was definitely not a crucify just a suggestion since Rina's content is int'l and we don't want her to be seen as a runner up and works against her at miss universe❤
lol the anti-natasha team is having a field day🙄chill bathong, she's gotten what she wanted and she's happy. seems like people desperately want to see her drowning in depression. let the queen enjoy her reign
Will you stop ranting about miss universe. I feel Miss SA itself is a job that is why once miss sa wins miss universe the queen is dethroned. You wl always be blabbering what will Ann think n wat not.
I will not because I can promise you that the Miss SA staff themselves are also stressed about "what will Ann think n wat not" because Miss Universe success has always been a major boost to Miss SA's fan base and revenue.
@@RinaHendriks I have been watching your videos as long as I remember, and you are too worried about the fact of getting unplaced.Chill there so many girls who got placed irrespective of them getting crowned or not . Infact Talking about India 2019 miss diva was appointed one , she was 2nd runner up back in 2015 and she got placed. Last year divita was appointed n we got placed. It's all about how u carry yourself once you reach the venue and interview plus prelims. Bryoni placement has nothing to do with her being runner up.
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Natasha does not have the power to give Bryoni a chance to compete at Miss Universe. I think that's delusional or arrogant of her to say. The Miss Universe participants contract does not allow a woman to compete more than once PERIOD. Equally I understand that saying she gave Bryoni the opportunity to compete at Miss Universe, will allow Natasha to be saint like.
She was talking about miss supranational which she is still eligible to compete to. And yes she gave the opportunity to other girls by not going internationally during her reign. It’s not arrogant.
Absolutely agree with you, the way Natasha puts it comes across as arrogant and off putting.
@@Bernicemaboko that's the thing, Natasha is actively saying in interviews that she is not competing at Miss Universe because she wants to " give other women an opportunity ". It's not her opportunity to give. Natasha does not qualify for Miss Universe thus she can't say she gave Bryoni a chance.
@meshachbhikari6900 absolutely well said. 💯
True💯
Something is off about this year...the more I look back and what took place, something doesn't add up, I have never be conflicted about Ms SA till this year....
Things aren’t always perfect, Steph has been doing a good job at running Miss SA for a few years now and putting together a good brand for Miss SA , one year of a slip up does not mean it’s badly managed. Let’s give them a chance they wil learn from their mistakes, even Miss Universe isn’t always on point .
Yes,I don't know why everyone accepts them to be so perfect as if their not human
This is so true!!! As a South African, I think Steph and the organization have been doing a great job. Every year can't be the same and perfect. Let's give them a chance. There are many things that happen in MU that are also not always perfect!!!
No,point of correction the arena was packed to capacity.I was there and a lot of people came in a bit late as with the other years.remember there are rules and when they go live all doors must be closed and whoever is outside can only come in during ad break. I can share videos to fact check if you need to
True I was there too
I’m not even South African I just flew in . Some people couldn’t even get tickets they sold out
No stop lying, there were empty seats at the Arena, at the top up there and it was many. There was basically patches and patches of unoccupied seats during throughout the telecast.
@@mambo5014 I don’t know what you are try to prove and by the way the area u claim was empty was even the cheapest of all areas of the arena so your statement doesn’t make sense atleast if you had said VIP maybe coz the tickets where more pricy but again they were sold out
RINA COME HERE. I WONDER WHY YOU AGAINST MISSSA SO MUCH.
@@lorrenzom l am saying the venue was not sold out like last year. It don’t matter if it was VIP or extra strong seats but Miss SA venue had a lot of empty seats compared to 2019, 2022, 2023. That tells me something went wrong this year. Could be the late release of tickets but Miss SA fumbled big time this year.
Not Natasha lying on live radio😂😂💀
Imagine 🫣
@@Nakho_konke1znstarting off her reign with lies😂😂
Lol. You have always said Natasha is not genuine so why does this surprise you? This is one more reason why Natasha should not have won. Her ego was severely damaged back in 2020, her competing was purely based on repairing her ego. Now she is running around lying as if the choice to compete internationally was hers when we all know it isn't and if she had a say of going to Miss Supranational, she would be running to Poland.
Running to Poland 😂😂
@@Naledi-ep2vfbeen labelled a hater too but if anyone is a real pageant fan they know that Natasha reign is pure fraud
If Stephanie wants to make Miss Universe the main title at Miss South Africa then it should be called Miss Universe South Africa pageant. Then someone can take the license for Miss Supranational South Africa separately.
And it came off as I gave Bryoni an opportunity not she earned the right to go to Miss Universe. Messy boots Natasha!
Maybe next time they should start selling the tickets a month out not 2 weeks out .. that was so unprofessional .. how are people supposed to book accommodation, outfits, plans etc
I think that reality show killed the show. We all already know what was gonna happen. Maybe that’s why people didn’t buy the ticket. They need to change the format. Have about 50 girls and top 15 and keep everything secret until the end of the show. Fans are not happy when you send their favorite girl home I would buy it take it either if my favorite didn’t make it.
This is what I’ve been waiting for! As an international fan, I’m too lazy to be following the drama going on over there so I’ve been waiting for this video because I know that Rina will be serving up and summarizing all the tea. Thanks girl!
Can I just say something .
I am currently living in Thailand and watched MUT 2023 and I can honestly tell you, Miss SA Org and sponsors can come learn from the MUT Org, sponsors and production team how to put a final show together.
MUT started at 20h30 on Sunday evening and within an hour they were down as follows
Start with 53 girls
Then down to 20
Then down to 12
Then down to 5
And then down to 3
The last 90 minutes was all about the top 3 and it was fast paced.
Steph and the Miss SA Org rely to much on come back girls and I persoanlly feel that this year they begged Natasha, Bryoni, Jordan and Melissa to re-enter and they know by adding the two strongest girls against new comers Jordan and Melissa would be the buffer to make it not so obvious that Natasha and Bryoni will be in the Top 2. Dont get me wrong Bryoni was my choice for Miss SA 2023 from the day she "announced" she is entering again.
I personally think that every country must be forced by MU Org to follow the cannot enter a second time.
To end off,I personally don't feel Natasha deserves the Miss SA crown at all and as a Afrikaans speaking person, she did lie in the RSG interview.. there was no "lost in translation as per CEO of miss SA Org, Steph Wells, she is English so maybe she translated the Afrikaans to English wrong by using Google translate😂
I have actually seen an interview where natasha said that she is allowed to go to miss universe and the organization allowed her but she chose against it. I can't find the video now though 😢
Where she lied. Yes, it's included at the end of this vid.
@RinaHendriks sorry!😅 I only got to the end now 😅
It is a lie. There is absolutely no way the Miss Universe Organisation will allow her to compete again.
😂😂😂 I listened to the interview on RSG but I was very confused by Natasha's statement about being allowed to compete twice at MU
Share link,we need to listen
The Miss SA org deserves this after they put down other girls harshly on Crown Chasers. Remember, how they treated Kea, Jordan and esp Melissa. Melissa took the criticism like a champ. They fed into Natasha's ego.
They reduced Kea to nothing, shame😢
Rina: oh my goodness what a flipping drama-rama have you exposed to us ! Thank you for your excellent video & obviously well researched information! All I can say is that this year’s Miss SA has gone into absolute shambles ! I have been following Miss SA for the past almost 50 years! I had so much respect for how the current Miss SA organisation recently showcased our pageants & were groundbreaking in certain aspects!
For clarity, I interviewed Natasha on my Radio show and she confirmed that the Miss Universe Organisation actually allowed her to come back and compete & represent South Africa again. She Declined, because she wants to be Miss South Africa 🇿🇦
And the Miss SA CEO corrected that and said no one is allowed to compete more than once at Miss Universe. So does that mean Miss Universe told only Natasha to come back and compete and she declined without informing Miss SA that she was offered this opportunity😂😂😂.
Give the link to the Clio, otherwise you're lying 😂🚮🤸🏾
@@mambo5014lol I really feel like Natasha is so dilulu since winning South Africa and being such a crowd favorite at MU 2020 - she thinks she’s the best thing to happen to Miss SA.
Miss U will never allow a lady to compete twice at MISS U! She crazy
@@HamTheIllestabsolutely agree with you
Natasha sounds like a liar ...
Miss SA org made a few blunders this year and they lost some following. Let me just outline this:
1. Having 7 contestants is a definite no, they lost some people who would have attended and bought tickets just to support they fam/contestants.
2. People are angry with Natasha’s win and it looked racist, the fact that they accommodated her like this.
3. Their conflict resolution needs work.
Why is Natasha's win racist? Because she is white? Remember Demi Leigh Nel-Peters was the last white woman who won Miss SA in 2017 exactly 6 years before Natasha. Between them only black women won Miss SA and mostly black women used to be in the top 3 with the exception of Tamaryn Green who won in 2018 is a cape coloured. There is nothing racist here.
Agree on point 1 and 3 but point 2 is a No no,she won fair and square
Not everything is about race.
Demi-Leigh is a mixed race woman although she looks nearly White.
How is that racist? She was the only white contestant in the TOP 3 since 2020
Rina, you are so obsessed with Miss SA Queens, you tend to forget that Miss SA main purpose is to fulfil the duties of South African interest just like miss France, you need to find healing with whatever miss SA have done to you. every year you criticize our Queens and you spread negativity against miss SA. with regard to interviewers of Natasha, you must process the fact that South Africa is not a high pageant country. we don't care about international pageants, you must refer your energy to Latins and Asians who are so much vested into international pageants.
She didn’t say otherwise she spoke facts if you’ve worked for a pageant organisation u would know the the crowned winner isn’t bigger than the organisation
So Natasha can’t take decisions without having validation from the miss sa organisation same for miss universe,miss earth whatever
So for Natasha to say I decided not to go I’m giving my place to bryoni I’m only serving my country
Is insane cause she’s not giving bryoni anything that’s what was decided by the organisation already and we all know why !
And if the organisation wanted Natasha to attend miss super national she wasn’t gonna have the power to say A or B unless the organisation agrees with her excuse to not participate or whatever
So her crown isn’t bigger than the organisation.
So rina is speaking facts
U must know that the organisation is putting a lots of money on her she’s basically living on them for a year
U really think she has more power than the organisation?
Miss SA in my view is functioning as Miss France. I also think Natasha is using her brand power to actually create more brand value and endorsments for Miss SA. This is the main revenue stream for Miss SA
You correct on this one
You are 100% correct my friend.
Natasha will be representing SA at Supra. My theory is Natasha announced her non participation with the hope that the fans will beg and boom Miss SA will announce “you asked and we listened” 🙄
😂😂😂Sounds like it's gonna happen...
Rina reading and spitting facts😂. Ek kan nie glo sy't dit gese nie 😮. Plus, its crazy Miss SA wants to charge Zozi for styling, Steph slowly becoming Anne
Why will the Miss SA Organisation spend so much money on this pageant and not is able to send the best girl to any international competition. 😮
South africa should seperately conduct miss universe south africa for selecting representative to mu if they give so much importance to national paegent ,now tomm.bryoni will also want to be miss SA,then again 1st runner up will be send to miss universe ,like this south africa will loose it's charm in mu ,
🤣 🤣 True story. Perhaps Thato will try next
2020 bruised Natasha's ego, understandably so, but she was always wanted to prove a point. The "humble" narrative that was used this year was quite laughable. For her to go on a public platform to lie was just to feed her ego. Episode 1 crown chasers showed her arrogance and entitlement when she didn't win. At least Bryoni is down to earth, I hope she does well.
Natasha knows that she was not gonna place again if she went to Miss U, the girl is not gifted when it comes to giving solid answers. Obviously this crown was given to her on a silver platter from the start of crown chasers, definitely not rocket science.
Why you hating , just cause you wish you had what she does? People can never be happy for others. TOXIC.
After two years or months, Miss South Africa will turn to Miss Universe South Africa and someone will take Miss Supranational South Africa license like Miss World.
It will be great if mister supranational south africa take the miss supranational license
Just because she was invited to come back and win Miss SA she also convinced herself that Miss Universe will do the same. She has repeated this wish in her head many times and ended up saying it on national radio. Power of lies.
South Africans are not pageant fans like other nations. I do not think you must blame the journalists for being less informed. To be honest with you, South Africans only know Zozi as Miss SA . People care very little about pageants in Africa as a whole Yes we might have won and are called a power house but i tell you the truth South Africans care very little .A huge number of them i am telling you . Whoever came before or after Zozi is insignificant. They care nothing about the rest but Zozi. Ask even a taxi driver , they know Zozi. That is why they are less informed. I am not sure why you are saying Bryoni cannot go to Miss Supra because Miss Universe will be offended??? How were they offended when Lalela did both? Are you not contradicting yourself?
But Rina, I feel like Miss SA org has been riding under the radar regarding these international pageants.
For me, for Natasha to be putting out her own statement that “she’s giving another girl a chance to go international” Is WILD!
Miss sa should be in the forefront of this information. And they should be the ones that put that information out!
I don’t think Natasha lied honestly,the fact that Miss universe posted her as a delegate says a lot
That can’t be a mistake honestly
I agree with you they even made a whole poster imagine. It can't be a mistake. They were really willing to have her back to compete again.
It was a mistake, a women can’t go twice
She lied, get over it
Like everyone knows that Natasha competed in MU 2020, how can MU staff did not realise.
You Guys....who do you guys think was in charge of the MU page when they were in South Africa🤷. R'bonney,the Ceo. They know Natasha. Maybe we can exclude R'bonney but the other two knew and were there during the entire thing. Truth is they knew but y'all can convince yourselves other wise. But l won't say she was giving another woman a chance. Like what?
Thank you very much for this vid and your personal analysis. I fully agree with your take. There seems to be something 'brewing' there by Stephanie Weil 'club'. Case in point is Zozi's issue. Stephanie's response to Zozi's no show at the finale doesn't cut the mustard for me. Coming to who will represent SA at the Miss Supranational pageant this year, I see no reason(s) why can't the reigning Miss SA go and compete. That she, Natasha want to concentrate on her role and duties of Miss SA, is very lame to say the least. Stephanie needs to explain clearly the reason behind that decision (if indeed it has concluded that way). Miss SA Org. can't be sending 'runner ups' to the international pageant when the reigning queen is available!
I agree....given Miss Supra is also in July/August which is close to Miss SA end of reign
I am Afrikaans and that girl lied just makes 1 wonder ....I was a Vip won a ticket that red carpet was a mess by the time I was gonna take a photo I was so over it my friend who bought R1500 ticket had the worst experience did not even get food that Vip seats are the worst yes Its a mess
It just seems that over the past few years, the whole Miss SA organization has had so many strange scandals.
The finale was on a Sunday next day a working Monday, a wrong date was picked. Last year it was on a Saturday and very full. They picked the wrong day. Miss SA decision making is so questionable and the lack of accountability is so dissappointing. I am just waiting for Miss SA to tell us Natasha will be going to Miss Suprinational if Bryoni does well at Miss Unirvese
Natasha is not going to Miss Supranational. She said so in an interview she is just going to reign as Miss SA
I think that they moved it to Sunday to keep the same slot they had agreed to with S3. If they had moved it to Saturday that would have conflicted with the usual S3 schedule especially since they had already taken the Sunday slot for Crown Chasers.
Ai tog, you are so cynical, give the girl a break. She well deserved the title. Don't run her down cos of Miss U, imagine being asked in every interview the same question and try and answer differently each time, yes, she shouldn't have said that on RSG but to start inventing a conspiracy theory is pathetic.
Stephanie Weil is really running Miss South Africa to the ground
Where were all these comments when Steph brought us Two Miss Universe crowns within a space of a year ?? Not even the old Miss SA organization did that. These are slip ups, they will learn and do better. Give them a chance
@@mobyntsane4174my dear, she may have succeeded then, she’s failing now. She has turned once esteemed organisation into a scam. We paid for a stream, it didn’t work. There was NO ACKNOWLEDGMENT FROM MANAGEMENT. Where did she get her management qualification? Does she have one? That is NOT how you run a business. A complete failure.
@@Hashtag25_ Okay this is a fair point, They haven't acknowledged the App thing, which is really bad. I understand where you are coming from .
I was there last year, definitely not a VIP ticket, but I felt the live pageant wasn't made for the audience. It was clear that the setup was tv, and we were part of the show... even though we paid to watch the pageant. As soon as they said "see you after the break," everything stopped. It was not a great experience. We were even told we couldn't go in cause we were 20 minutes late...after standing in a line to enter the arena from parking for 2 hours.
impressive how you are not sugar coating things especially with Natasha lying ( and to think that you have always been supportive of her candidacy).
One of the duties of a reigning Queen is to represent her county internationally.Why they wasted money on this show is beyond me and they're going to waste Designers time , Bryoni's time to train and expenses just to go to el Salvador to fail coz definitely she's not placing and I get it if at National level you didn't believe in a girl why should an international pageant believe in her... she'll be unplaced.
WHEN I SEE NATASHA ALL THE TIMES, I SAY TO MYSELF, "AVERAGE LOOKING BEAUTY QUEEN" !!!!! There is no way under the sun she fits the title to be crowned MISS UNIVERSE like ZOZIBINI or a Miss World like ROLENE STRAUS.NATASHA simply does not have that X FACTOR but i'm not meaning to say that she is dead ugly !!!! BUT SHE IS INDEED averaged regardless of giving some good answers to a couple questions during the last staging and coronation of Miss SA
you are really harsh on Natasha. You always focus on her miss universe past and always drag her. You dont put her miss universe past behind her. lets focus on her being miss South Africa and what shes doing with the crown. you have always been negative about her and you always say " i like natasha " after critizing her harshly
I watched a live from Natasha last week and she is still saying that she can compete again at Miss Universe and chose not to go.
I expected you to spill the tea ☕️😂
The arena was full full so that’s wrong information.
I for one rooted for Natasha from the get go. But I listened to her interview on RSG (Only her interview I do not usually listen to RSG😂) and I was so disappointed! I hate it when someone tells lies and she told this lie to make herself look even better!
Finally subscribed 😊
The whole situation is messy messy
Nothing is making sense I personally think Natasha wanted to compete internationally but either the owner of miss universe was not having it or as u said the license is over and they dropping it which is sad cause they are acting like dogs for miss universe now so sad.
Natasha is not bigger thn the organisation if thy wanted her there she would be there
Anyways good luck to bryoni for miss univers with work she will do great.
Great video
Why would she lie? It just doesn't make sense. If she lies then obviously she knows she'll be in trouble. So why lie? It then makes sense why she said she wants to give Bryoni a chance to compete. Because she can give that chance in MU invited hee back. I honestly think she was telling the truth.
Me too especially in line of the fact that Miss Universe posted her as the South African representative initially
Shame Natasha shouldn’t have made that statement about being allowed to compete at miss universe . She’s going to have a tough reign especially because it seems as though a lot of people aren’t happy with her win.
Nevertheless, I like Natasha, and I wish the girl all the best.
I’ve been praying for this episode 😭♥️ Thank you!!! ✨
Feel miss sa is not telling the queens the truth. They are told these things. Natasha is amazing
It's delusional of you to believe that Miss u would allow her to participate again
"Have you ever seen the same women twice" THE WAY I GAGED 🤣🤣😭😭
Not Natasha embarrassing us 🫣🫣
Natasha for miss Supranational
Why didn't they send Shudamafu instead to Miss Universe? She did not went to MU since Natasha was sent instead of her. She had to wait for months since Miss World was postponed 2x.
I think she has moved on not all girls who win Miss SA hold on to it for dear life
Rina, I wish you would spend the same amount of time and energy with analysing Miss Namibia like you do with Miss SA. None of us have the facts and until then we can't be making videos that are discrediting the Miss SA organisation. Stop your sensationalism and start posting videos with substance and facts like your fellow pageant analysts.
Looks like you refuse to update your Miss Supranational pic in the wall...🤣😂🤣😂
Miss SA has no order with regards to announcements this year. I mean why were ticket sales announced so late and why hasn't Briyoni been announced as MU SA by the org yet??
Miss South Africa and Miss Universe has already officially announced Bryoni as Miss Universe South Africa
@meshachbhikari6900 MU did not Miss SA.
I think you’re being a bit harsh to Natasha… she’s living her dream and is still trying to sunk in and has such a busy schedule already. Absolutely loved your last video about Miss SA and you made some EXACT predictions but this one got me disappointed… we all knew she wanted to be Miss South Africa, it’s on her comeback announcement
😂😂😂😂😂 a bit too harsh? If you know Rina you know she love Natasha even had her on her wishlist for Miss SA. Now Natasha lied on that interview she lied and Rina is just telling it as it is. Unlike you some pageant fans are objective in their reasoning and are not blinded by fandom. Rina is just calling a spade a spade
There are lots of peagent contestants from diffrent countries every year withe indian origin Ex. Miss World 2019.
I've said it before, and I will say it again: Natasha is a complication. Perhaps it's good that she came up with the "I'm doing this for the Miss SA crown" but what she and the Miss SA organisation will not successfully do is to draw a line between Miss SA and and, let's say, Miss Universe SA for example. Case in Point is Natasha herself after MU 2020.
Based on performance, of course Natasha did well and deserved to win.
Love you reviews but you wrong the pkace was packed I been there and honestly why make a bigdeal out of wht natasha said...note natasha was nt my 1st chouce stop the gossiping geeze
They will be sending the 2nd runner up for miss Supra
You are so entertaining! I love how you spill the tea and analyze everything! 😂
She remembered that Charlize Theron said there are only 44 South Africans who still speak/understand Afrikaans😅
If you want Rina Ma'am now the time has come to replace Lalela's photo with Andrea.
Thank you for raising this❤❤❤
your welcome.
😂😂😂😂no mahn Natasha you dont need to lie to he liked we love you you with or without a crown 😂
Why were you awed that interviewers are not upon pageant details as you are, particularly, that she will not be able to compete in Miss Universe or Miss World?
Not all persons follow pageant religiously as pageant fans and the said interviewers were relying on standard information that they were aware of; specifically, that Miss South Africa usually competes in Miss World and Miss Universe and not familiar with:
1. The Miss Universe 1 chance competition rule and/or that she even competed previously and
2. That Miss South Africa relinquished the Miss World franchise
Pageants heyday have come and gone! As a result, they no longer hold significance in people's mind including journalists as they used to do. So get over your aweness ...about interviewers not being up-to-date on something that maybe on the way of becoming extinct, as well as, so much more happening in the world thst requires more attention and knowledge than domeone winning and competiting in pageants.
BTW, I am a pageant fan
Lol you are one lousy pageant fan. Pageant fandom aside lemme educate you on media interviews by they radio or tv the hosts have to educate theirselves first about the particular guest and the particular topic he/she will talk about. One cannot feign ignorance that's just the golden rule of hosting a guest. So whether it's pageantry, politics or sports the host must be well informed in case the guest decides to lie 😂 like in the case of Natasha (point in case).
And honestly they must stop the streaming thing 😂😂😂😂 go back to the drawing board 🙂 and then you go back to streaming when they are ready ❤
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Miss SA organizations drama
Idk why my girl Tash lied🤧🤧🤧🤧😭😭😭♥️♥️♥️ but I forgive and still love her, she is the hill please!!♥️♥️♥️
Ag Hou tog net op .hoeveel keer wil jy die storie van miss universe vertel
Okay waarom volg jy dan vir Rina. ?
When will you change the miss supranational 2022 photo with miss supranational 2023
I will concur 🤠 the VIP tickets must be done away with, and ACTUALLY give the VIP perks
If they want to sell the vip😂
What's the point of being upset by a Translation... rather focus on the good she wants for us students!!!
Hahaha no wonder anc is always winning elections you are lied to and the only thing you focus on is lies not the credibility of the person behind them..now that she's lied point blank in that interview, are you even sure she was telling the truth about that 1 million rand (whatever the figure she said) in bursaries?
Omg rina, as you said I was rooting for her all along. This is disappointing .😐👎🏿 natasha😓👎🏿
I see you trying to put down bryoni not to enjoy her time as Musa ,,, so what if Anne is not happy
Stop talking shit, lalela was second runner up and her successor was in the top 16 obviously miss SA organisation has been doing great...not the same can be said about your country Namibia
lying like this as a tiltle holder is not cool, how are people going to believe her after this
.....Also maybe Rina you should call bryoni miss universe South Africa not a runner-up?
Tell that to Miss SA duh the organization is calling her that first runner up in their post of and about her. So why crucifying Rina here for something emanating from the organization? You are crazy
@@ernestchikope4751 APOLOGIES
It was definitely not a crucify just a suggestion since Rina's content is int'l and we don't want her to be seen as a runner up and works against her at miss universe❤
lol the anti-natasha team is having a field day🙄chill bathong, she's gotten what she wanted and she's happy. seems like people desperately want to see her drowning in depression. let the queen enjoy her reign
Ur hatred for Natasha is obvious. I don't understand y u hate Natasha so much.
I strongly believe that Rina you dislike Natasha
Any video regarding miss diva?
Miss SA is boring
Will you stop ranting about miss universe. I feel Miss SA itself is a job that is why once miss sa wins miss universe the queen is dethroned. You wl always be blabbering what will Ann think n wat not.
I will not because I can promise you that the Miss SA staff themselves are also stressed about "what will Ann think n wat not" because Miss Universe success has always been a major boost to Miss SA's fan base and revenue.
@@RinaHendriks I have been watching your videos as long as I remember, and you are too worried about the fact of getting unplaced.Chill there so many girls who got placed irrespective of them getting crowned or not . Infact Talking about India 2019 miss diva was appointed one , she was 2nd runner up back in 2015 and she got placed. Last year divita was appointed n we got placed. It's all about how u carry yourself once you reach the venue and interview plus prelims. Bryoni placement has nothing to do with her being runner up.
Hope Natasha go to Supranational
Nee wag Antjie Krog los ons Queen uit. Jy wil net drama soek vir meer views. Asb man 🎉❤
@@angelofredericks1347Sorry What language is this?
Ek dink nie jy is werlik baie erg oor Natasha nie! My mening van die begin af!😮
Bitter bitter bitter bitter
Bryoni is half indian
No dear she is 100% indian
I don't know about him but pls tell that she is full indian how
No way no
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