The things with goalpost is real on both sides (this "battle" started already BIASED on both sides), because when Drake talked about family no one said something, in push ups he said "I be with some bodyguards like Whitney" but when Kendrick talked about Drake being a deadbeat (truth or not he use that angle as there is history of Drake denying his fatherhood), y'all start talking about morality in a beef (but what place has morality when the objective is to be disrespectful). When Euphoria dropped no one wanted to listen what Kendrick had to say all started saying it was "boring" even if he really had bar in that song, no one cared, so again the goal was pushed saying "he didn't say anything knew", like we didn't know that he was short, cheated on his girl etc with Drake Push ups. BUT AGAIN no one thought it was a problem. In a battle (the way i perceive it) as long as you are disrespectful and the bar land i take it as a punch, and i think both of them did punch where it hurts. In euphoria, he attacked his blackness (and cultural currency, saying that he was "culture vulture" in a way) which opened the door for Drake to attack his activist side. The 'battle' was already personal since push ups as he talked about his BM. So if Kendrick wanted to attacked on the family point i don't see where was the problem. I didn't not push the goal at any moment, one did something the other did the same and worse, but when one goes further, everyone started saying well no he can't say that. And hypocrisy or not, both of them where hypocrite so that discourse is really weird For me euphoria was great jabs, he went at his character but no one wanted to acknowledge him. WHEN HE GAVE LYRICS people said that's not what it mattered the most, there is the beat and "tea", i remember people saying there was no tea when euphoria dropped. When i personally only cared about how he used the information he had on his opponent to make fun of him. 6:16 in LA just like Taylor made was bait song to put pressure on the other. Family Matters was a great diss track but again my question was that if we take out everything he says about ross, abel, asap etc.. The things he says about Kendrick didn't make him flunch but made the public watching react (IMO), he said that Kendrick was fake activist (i liked that angle), that he was short again (that was not a problem for ANYONE for me neither as he said it in a other way), said that his baby wasn't his (weirdly no one cared if it was true or not when he said it), continued on the BM angle (again no one said it was not "great") and then kept giving TEA! when Family matter and push ups gave tea (that his BM cheated everyone took it and didn't care and they LIKED IT thats why some people disliked Euphoria as it did not have the tea they wanted-- all of this its because of Pusha T🙃) and then the biggest revelation was that he beat up his BM (im saying Bm cause again we don't even know if they are still together or not as he said in mr morale that "Whitney was gone" so if it true this would make the idea that he is living bachelor life while being engaged not land BUT since there was no proof i take it because it was funny, disrespectful and it landed if you don't think too much), WHEN Drake kept saying things about Kendrick's family truth or not it didn't matter and there was nothing to make that point stand for the Dave free allegations to the DV, and weirdly no one is talking about hypocrisy from drake making a s/o to chris brown or being friend with him while denouncing DV (goalpost was pushed again). Meet the grahams (followed the angle of drake "Family" being involved) people now weirdly don't want to listen to what Kendrick said because it was not bop, LYRICS AND BARS didn't matter, when in the song the disrespect was there but it was easy to look at it in another pov just to not take what he was saying. When he said Drake had a daughter (people believed it because of the first incident with Pusha T) so if we take Dave being the father of his child (Kendrick's) based on nothing why not taking Drake having a daughter based on nothing or history (remembering he lied about Adonis when Pusha T announced it). AND OTHER THAN THE TEA he has bars (but people don't even want to look at it), the pdf file accusation i put them the same place with DV, (hypocrite because he had Kodak in his album but i think the R.kelly was not even about him defending r.kelly but it landed in the case of Drake so i took it i did not try to look further) and in the case of Drake, there is history of "creep" attitude so if HE is calling him that its his pov (even if i wouldn't say that like that i view it more of a "groom" attitude with some girls he dated as he talked to them when they were underage and when they were legally adult he dated them ex: Bella Harris) Not Like Us had the punch and people said he did not address the Family tea when he literally said "the family matter and the truth of the matter it was god's plan to show y'all the liar" for me that was a clear statement that he responded to the allegations saying that drake is lying (something he said in every songs and in Meet the grahams he said "why do you have to stoop so low to discredit decent people" again he responded to the accusations while attacking Drake) but again for me everyone heard but no one listened cause they took personal everything there were saying on both sides; I DON'T KNOW them so i didn't care about Kendrick calling him a deadbeat, the same way i didn't care about Drake calling Kendrick a fake activist or raising a child that's not his. the goalpost was pushed = when kendrick gave tea, we dont want that, when he didn't "oh he really didn't say anything" and last OH he won because of tea/ =when Drake gave tea, no one said anything IN EVERY SONG both of them gave tea. Y'all saying if there was a lie in a song it don't hit as much but the H6 hit? when he lied about the maybach picture and planting a mole (i dont believe it but i listen to his songs like he was saying the truth until the mother i sober part where he misinterpreted the song). I don't personally think THAT Kendrick won only because of strategy. Because i went back and look at the lyrics and i still think Kendrick won. I listened to people who think Drake won only because of BARS, and i went to see and i still think he lost. Because the way i looked at this was WHO WAS THE MOST DISRESPECTFUL IN A LYRICAL way and i think Kendrick was. IF we want to take look at facts, there is more truth coming from Kendrick disses than from Drake side. If we want to say one is hypocrite then we have to say the other is too, as both of them have people around them who have weird cases. And as someone who did not listen to Kendrick (only knew the Black Panther album and some songs in Damn) nor Drake (i only know his hit songs-gods plan, hotline bling, work, one dance, in my feeling and toosie slide) i don't think i was biased but ngl the things i saw on the internet made the things that Kendrick was saying more believable. Then in rap battle people says the public perception matters, how they react to what ones is saying, so when i listened to the songs, Kendrick's one made me more laugh (and i think he has more memorable line as you guys said, if you want to deny this its just showed you are biased, same with Drake people who say he doesn't are biased to because i remember the slave line, the "when you put you hands on your girl is it self defense cause she bigger than you" and also the grammy line was funny) and more shocked ( and i Think push ups was really funny and in fm they were some line that were funny as hell) So in this battle people took the point of view that mattered to them when listening to these men but changed stance when they wanted, for me whether you accept everything in a battle or you make you boundaries but then you shouldn't come trying to talk who had better BARS when the bars itself where based on tea. EVERYTHING was permitted when Drake made pushups and more with Family matters, and if i take ALL the tea out Kendrick (just with euphoria) will still win this things IMO, but i would like if possible to show me the bars by drake that would have made him WIN (because weirdly when Kendrick made his songs, lyrics and bars did not matter much the replay value mattered and when he made a bop with bars well he repeated himself, like again both of them repeated themselves ! and i'm looking at every video possible where people look at the bars from both sides and still i dont see where Drake won and well maybe the videos i am looking at they are all biased, but its over now. But i general i really liked your video !
The things with goalpost is real on both sides (this "battle" started already BIASED on both sides), because when Drake talked about family no one said something, in push ups he said "I be with some bodyguards like Whitney" but when Kendrick talked about Drake being a deadbeat (truth or not he use that angle as there is history of Drake denying his fatherhood), y'all start talking about morality in a beef (but what place has morality when the objective is to be disrespectful).
When Euphoria dropped no one wanted to listen what Kendrick had to say all started saying it was "boring" even if he really had bar in that song, no one cared, so again the goal was pushed saying "he didn't say anything knew", like we didn't know that he was short, cheated on his girl etc with Drake Push ups. BUT AGAIN no one thought it was a problem. In a battle (the way i perceive it) as long as you are disrespectful and the bar land i take it as a punch, and i think both of them did punch where it hurts.
In euphoria, he attacked his blackness (and cultural currency, saying that he was "culture vulture" in a way) which opened the door for Drake to attack his activist side.
The 'battle' was already personal since push ups as he talked about his BM. So if Kendrick wanted to attacked on the family point i don't see where was the problem. I didn't not push the goal at any moment, one did something the other did the same and worse, but when one goes further, everyone started saying well no he can't say that. And hypocrisy or not, both of them where hypocrite so that discourse is really weird
For me euphoria was great jabs, he went at his character but no one wanted to acknowledge him. WHEN HE GAVE LYRICS people said that's not what it mattered the most, there is the beat and "tea", i remember people saying there was no tea when euphoria dropped. When i personally only cared about how he used the information he had on his opponent to make fun of him.
6:16 in LA just like Taylor made was bait song to put pressure on the other.
Family Matters was a great diss track but again my question was that if we take out everything he says about ross, abel, asap etc.. The things he says about Kendrick didn't make him flunch but made the public watching react (IMO), he said that Kendrick was fake activist (i liked that angle), that he was short again (that was not a problem for ANYONE for me neither as he said it in a other way), said that his baby wasn't his (weirdly no one cared if it was true or not when he said it), continued on the BM angle (again no one said it was not "great") and then kept giving TEA! when Family matter and push ups gave tea (that his BM cheated everyone took it and didn't care and they LIKED IT thats why some people disliked Euphoria as it did not have the tea they wanted-- all of this its because of Pusha T🙃) and then the biggest revelation was that he beat up his BM (im saying Bm cause again we don't even know if they are still together or not as he said in mr morale that "Whitney was gone" so if it true this would make the idea that he is living bachelor life while being engaged not land BUT since there was no proof i take it because it was funny, disrespectful and it landed if you don't think too much), WHEN Drake kept saying things about Kendrick's family truth or not it didn't matter and there was nothing to make that point stand for the Dave free allegations to the DV, and weirdly no one is talking about hypocrisy from drake making a s/o to chris brown or being friend with him while denouncing DV (goalpost was pushed again).
Meet the grahams (followed the angle of drake "Family" being involved) people now weirdly don't want to listen to what Kendrick said because it was not bop, LYRICS AND BARS didn't matter, when in the song the disrespect was there but it was easy to look at it in another pov just to not take what he was saying. When he said Drake had a daughter (people believed it because of the first incident with Pusha T) so if we take Dave being the father of his child (Kendrick's) based on nothing why not taking Drake having a daughter based on nothing or history (remembering he lied about Adonis when Pusha T announced it). AND OTHER THAN THE TEA he has bars (but people don't even want to look at it), the pdf file accusation i put them the same place with DV, (hypocrite because he had Kodak in his album but i think the R.kelly was not even about him defending r.kelly but it landed in the case of Drake so i took it i did not try to look further) and in the case of Drake, there is history of "creep" attitude so if HE is calling him that its his pov (even if i wouldn't say that like that i view it more of a "groom" attitude with some girls he dated as he talked to them when they were underage and when they were legally adult he dated them ex: Bella Harris)
Not Like Us had the punch and people said he did not address the Family tea when he literally said "the family matter and the truth of the matter it was god's plan to show y'all the liar" for me that was a clear statement that he responded to the allegations saying that drake is lying (something he said in every songs and in Meet the grahams he said "why do you have to stoop so low to discredit decent people" again he responded to the accusations while attacking Drake) but again for me everyone heard but no one listened cause they took personal everything there were saying on both sides; I DON'T KNOW them so i didn't care about Kendrick calling him a deadbeat, the same way i didn't care about Drake calling Kendrick a fake activist or raising a child that's not his.
the goalpost was pushed = when kendrick gave tea, we dont want that, when he didn't "oh he really didn't say anything" and last OH he won because of tea/ =when Drake gave tea, no one said anything IN EVERY SONG both of them gave tea.
Y'all saying if there was a lie in a song it don't hit as much but the H6 hit? when he lied about the maybach picture and planting a mole (i dont believe it but i listen to his songs like he was saying the truth until the mother i sober part where he misinterpreted the song). I don't personally think THAT Kendrick won only because of strategy. Because i went back and look at the lyrics and i still think Kendrick won. I listened to people who think Drake won only because of BARS, and i went to see and i still think he lost. Because the way i looked at this was WHO WAS THE MOST DISRESPECTFUL IN A LYRICAL way and i think Kendrick was.
IF we want to take look at facts, there is more truth coming from Kendrick disses than from Drake side. If we want to say one is hypocrite then we have to say the other is too, as both of them have people around them who have weird cases. And as someone who did not listen to Kendrick (only knew the Black Panther album and some songs in Damn) nor Drake (i only know his hit songs-gods plan, hotline bling, work, one dance, in my feeling and toosie slide) i don't think i was biased but ngl the things i saw on the internet made the things that Kendrick was saying more believable.
Then in rap battle people says the public perception matters, how they react to what ones is saying, so when i listened to the songs, Kendrick's one made me more laugh (and i think he has more memorable line as you guys said, if you want to deny this its just showed you are biased, same with Drake people who say he doesn't are biased to because i remember the slave line, the "when you put you hands on your girl is it self defense cause she bigger than you" and also the grammy line was funny) and more shocked ( and i Think push ups was really funny and in fm they were some line that were funny as hell) So in this battle people took the point of view that mattered to them when listening to these men but changed stance when they wanted, for me whether you accept everything in a battle or you make you boundaries but then you shouldn't come trying to talk who had better BARS when the bars itself where based on tea. EVERYTHING was permitted when Drake made pushups and more with Family matters, and if i take ALL the tea out Kendrick (just with euphoria) will still win this things IMO, but i would like if possible to show me the bars by drake that would have made him WIN (because weirdly when Kendrick made his songs, lyrics and bars did not matter much the replay value mattered and when he made a bop with bars well he repeated himself, like again both of them repeated themselves ! and i'm looking at every video possible where people look at the bars from both sides and still i dont see where Drake won and well maybe the videos i am looking at they are all biased, but its over now.
But i general i really liked your video !
This was a really good breakdown!