The Beethoven influence is remarkable. Even so there are cadence, harmony and constructive structure that substantially differentiates the two composers. Specifically the emotional nature and the formality of musical construction. Ries is not as “classical “ as Beethoven, his musical fluidity is more free. The second movement is of unparalleled beauty and elegance, it takes us to transcendent levels of incredible delight and pleasure. Ries is really a outstanding and amazing composer. His music is magnificent and magic because touches us in the depths of our soul. A composer who achieves this goal is magnificent and deserves our admiration. Viva Ries and his incomparable music. The pianist, the orchestra and the direction have a superb performance.
Encore un concerto qui démontre la richesse intérieure de ce compositeur passionné, pas étonnant qu'il ne laisse pas indifférent ! Sa fulgurance me rappelle Rachmaninov..la passion là encore.. Fantastique.. 🎶💓🎶✨
Ces concerti de Ries sont des joyaux tant ils nous apprennent du maître Beethoven que de l’évolution de la musique en ce début de 19 e vers le romantisme le plus exaspéré.L’intégrale de Hinterhuber occupe une place de choix dans ma discothèque !
Stunning music from Ries. I have never heard of him before. Good to know people such as sibarit101 is uploading so many delightful music from unknown composers.! Thank you.
En écoutant le final du somptueux 5 e concerto on sent comment Ries au son du cor s’éloigne de son maître en laissant poindre déjà Chopin ! Une merveille !
It seems that all of Ries' Piano Concerti are pure delight! I've heard #s 5 thru 8 so far, and all have been inventive and uplifting. The extended passage beginning at 18:12, an expansion of a horn call in Beethoven's "Pastorale"(?) shows Ries' genius; in fact, the whole Concerto is marvelous.
The maestri Grodd and Hinterhuber deserve praise for championing this composer who deserves so much than just a footnote in a Beethoven biography. His music has all the lyricism and life-affirming spirituality of the early Romantic giants.
@@sibarit101He realy was a very fine composer. I bought all 8 his piano concertos, all his violin sonatas, a few piano sonatas and a piano quartet and piank quintet a few months ago, and not a moment sorry for doing so. Sure delight! I definitely plan to buy much more him (his violin concerto, all the remaining piano sonatas, other 2 piano quartets and all his symphonie on my MUST-BUY list).
Yeah, I'm glad you did it! I have almost all his music and nothing of this music has ever bored me! (I honestly admit that Beethoven's chamber music, for example, sometimes bored me). Unfortunately youtube recently blocked Symphony no.7 in A Minor op.181 (which was not posted on youtube) and the piano concerto in G minor no.9 op.177. But I'm glad you can listen to this music at home.
Das Privileg, die Riesische Musik in diesem Stil zu komponieren, wurde von diesem Höhen Wesen gegeben, das einen Platz in seinem Herzen fand !!! Tepper Michael.
wat een heerlijke muziek !!! Ries is echt ondergewaardeerd. Ik vind dit en het 8e pianoconcert echte meesterwerken en beter dan de bekende werken van Beethoven en Mozart.
Ries ist als Komponist völlig zu unrecht in Vergessenheit geraten. Seine Sinfonien und Konzerte aber auch seine Kammermusik müssten wieder viel häufiger auf den Programmen zu finden sein. Wie schade, dass z.B. gerade dieses Konzert von den namenhaften Pianisten ignoriert wird. Was für ein grossartiges Konzert mit so vielen wunderbaren und lichten Passagen.
Thank you, I'm glad you like Ries' music, he's my favorite composer. And yes, you're right, the attitude of great instrumentalists towards the music of lesser-known or unjustly forgotten composers is unfair.
Remarkable - I have to admit Rie´s kingdom was also subject to HRM the piano, as much as Beethoven. But Beethoven real "imperial" ground is the symphony and there, Ries merely "piétine"- But I´be to be fair - I need to hear to Rie´s piano sonatas and chamber music. A traditional way to get a more common picture of a composer.
Dear Sibarit101, some 11 months ago you wrote:, quote '..... I bought all 8 his piano concertos, all his violin sonatas, a few piano sonatas and a piano quartet etc. ...' unquote. Trough your uploads I became fascinated and very interested in Ries. Pleas, where did you buy or order these recordings?
I'm glad you're interested in Ries' music. I usually buy music online, through the "download" option (the album or only tracks at my choice), especially from PrestoClassical, but there are many other sites that sell by the same method.
cpo (from osnabrück germany) have also a fine amount of ries recordings.. i recommend this label for their wide range of lesser known composers, a lot of world premiere recordings from top orchestras/conductors. Also the records are at a fair price..(usually € 7.99 per CD). this should not be an advertising i just want to share my love for this label. Enjoy
Musique fort injustement méprisée, à cause du voisinage de Beetrhoven, mais si l'on fait abstraction de cela, pleine des qualités de clarté, de solidité, avec des thèmes bien trouvés. La faute à qui si les mimétismes beethovéniens et des restes de Mozart imprègnent ces oeuvres au point que l'on pourrait sur certains passages s'y tromper ? Après tout les premiers concertos de Mozart sentent le Hatdn et réciproquement, et sur ceux de Beethoven le souvenir de Haydn et Mozart plane comme une fatalité. Si Beethoven n'avait pas excité les littérateurs par les problèmes romantiques et dramatiques de son existence tourmentée, il eût été un Ries ou un Mendelssohn en ce qui concerne la popularité...
C'est un plaisir de voir manifestéer un tel accord, d'autant que j'ai quelques vagues idées en musique vu que je suis un ancien élève de Julien Falk, André Marchal, Wilhelm Kempf et Olivier Messiaen ! Ces personnages ne méprisaient pas les oeuvres de Ferdinant Ries. Je m'étonne toujours que pour bien des musiciens moins savants que ces quatre-là, Ries soit relégué au rang de plagiaire pue et simple de Beethoven. Cela me rappelle que j'ai perfois entendu dire, dans ma jeunesse, à des chefs assez connus que les symphonies de Mahler étaient "de la musique de chef d'orchestre", avec un certain dédain... À l'époque (1966) seuls Bruno Walter avait enregistré la 1ère, la 5ème, et Charles Adler la ème, sur vynile, pour le grand public... Ce qui a changé pour Mahler, changera peut-être pour Ries et les choses se rééquilibreront - sans que je veuile pour autant nier la valeur de Beethoven !
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The Beethoven influence is remarkable. Even so there are cadence, harmony and constructive structure that substantially differentiates the two composers. Specifically the emotional nature and the formality of musical construction. Ries is not as “classical “ as Beethoven, his musical fluidity is more free. The second movement is of unparalleled beauty and elegance, it takes us to transcendent levels of incredible delight and pleasure. Ries is really a outstanding and amazing composer. His music is magnificent and magic because touches us in the depths of our soul. A composer who achieves this goal is magnificent and deserves our admiration. Viva Ries and his incomparable music. The pianist, the orchestra and the direction have a superb performance.
Encore un concerto qui démontre la richesse intérieure de ce compositeur passionné, pas étonnant qu'il ne laisse pas indifférent ! Sa fulgurance me rappelle Rachmaninov..la passion là encore.. Fantastique.. 🎶💓🎶✨
Merci pour tous vos gentils commentaires !
Grande Ries!, estudande de Beethoven, desconhecido e injustiçado. José Barros Fortaleza-CE
Ces concerti de Ries sont des joyaux tant ils nous apprennent du maître Beethoven que de l’évolution de la musique en ce début de 19 e vers le romantisme le plus exaspéré.L’intégrale de Hinterhuber occupe une place de choix dans ma discothèque !
Merci encore pour vos commentaires et pour votre admiration pour la musique de Ries.
Stunning music from Ries. I have never heard of him before. Good to know people such as sibarit101 is uploading so many delightful music from unknown composers.! Thank you.
Thank you very much! I am very happy when people like you discover and appreciate the music of lesser-known composers.
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En écoutant le final du somptueux 5 e concerto on sent comment Ries au son du cor s’éloigne de son maître en laissant poindre déjà Chopin ! Une merveille !
After more than 3 years this video has not a single dislike. This by itself speaks volumes about how brilliant Ries was.
I am surprised you didn't get jinxed....
It seems that all of Ries' Piano Concerti are pure delight! I've heard #s 5 thru 8 so far, and all have been inventive and uplifting. The extended passage beginning at 18:12, an expansion of a horn call in Beethoven's "Pastorale"(?) shows Ries' genius; in fact, the whole Concerto is marvelous.
Thank you very much for this comment. I'm glad you like Ries' concerto.
Should be very challenging to be so creative under the protective shadow of a master like Beethoven
The maestri Grodd and Hinterhuber deserve praise for championing this composer who deserves so much than just a footnote in a Beethoven biography. His music has all the lyricism and life-affirming spirituality of the early Romantic giants.
Thank you. Although I have said this, I will always repeat: Ries is my favorite composer.
@@sibarit101He realy was a very fine composer. I bought all 8 his piano concertos, all his violin sonatas, a few piano sonatas and a piano quartet and piank quintet a few months ago, and not a moment sorry for doing so. Sure delight! I definitely plan to buy much more him (his violin concerto, all the remaining piano sonatas, other 2 piano quartets and all his symphonie on my MUST-BUY list).
Yeah, I'm glad you did it! I have almost all his music and nothing of this music has ever bored me! (I honestly admit that Beethoven's chamber music, for example, sometimes bored me). Unfortunately youtube recently blocked Symphony no.7 in A Minor op.181 (which was not posted on youtube) and the piano concerto in G minor no.9 op.177. But I'm glad you can listen to this music at home.
Das Privileg, die Riesische Musik in diesem Stil zu komponieren, wurde von diesem Höhen Wesen gegeben, das einen Platz in seinem Herzen fand !!! Tepper Michael.
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wat een heerlijke muziek !!! Ries is echt ondergewaardeerd. Ik vind dit en het 8e pianoconcert echte meesterwerken en beter dan de bekende werken van Beethoven en Mozart.
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Lo estoy escuchando, solo comparable con los mejores y los grandes entre los grandes.-
Yes it is! Thanks!
Música gratificante
lovely stuff:)
The movements are:
I. Allegro
II. Andantino
III. Allegro
Wunderschön, könnte so auch von Beethovern sein.
Thank you!
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Ries ist als Komponist völlig zu unrecht in Vergessenheit geraten. Seine Sinfonien und Konzerte aber auch seine Kammermusik müssten wieder viel häufiger auf den Programmen zu finden sein. Wie schade, dass z.B. gerade dieses Konzert von den namenhaften Pianisten ignoriert wird. Was für ein grossartiges Konzert mit so vielen wunderbaren und lichten Passagen.
Thank you, I'm glad you like Ries' music, he's my favorite composer.
And yes, you're right, the attitude of great instrumentalists towards the music of lesser-known or unjustly forgotten composers is unfair.
Beethoven is not Ries, and Ries is not Beethoven, but they are from the same Herd !!! Tepper Michael.
Remarkable - I have to admit Rie´s kingdom was also subject to HRM the piano, as much as Beethoven. But Beethoven real "imperial" ground is the symphony and there, Ries merely "piétine"- But I´be to be fair - I need to hear to Rie´s piano sonatas and chamber music. A traditional way to get a more common picture of a composer.
Dear Sibarit101, some 11 months ago you wrote:, quote '..... I bought all 8 his piano concertos, all his violin sonatas, a few piano sonatas and a piano quartet etc. ...' unquote. Trough your uploads I became fascinated and very interested in Ries. Pleas, where did you buy or order these recordings?
I'm glad you're interested in Ries' music.
I usually buy music online, through the "download" option (the album or only tracks at my choice), especially from PrestoClassical, but there are many other sites that sell by the same method.
@@sibarit101 thank you for your answer. Overhere, in the Netherlands I found just a little. Your recommandation of PrestoClassical is very useful.
cpo (from osnabrück germany) have also a fine amount of ries recordings.. i recommend this label for their wide range of lesser known composers, a lot of world premiere recordings from top orchestras/conductors. Also the records are at a fair price..(usually € 7.99 per CD). this should not be an advertising i just want to share my love for this label. Enjoy
@@LowFab Lieber Fabian, herzlichen Dank für den Hinwies. Super.
@@Indo49 Gerne, ich hab da soviel tolle Musik gefunden... Ist halt altmodisch auf CD 😉
Beethoven ist nicht Ries, und Ries ist nicht Beethoven, sondern Sie aus der gleichen Herde !!! Tepper Michael.
Musique fort injustement méprisée, à cause du voisinage de Beetrhoven, mais si l'on fait abstraction de cela, pleine des qualités de clarté, de solidité, avec des thèmes bien trouvés. La faute à qui si les mimétismes beethovéniens et des restes de Mozart imprègnent ces oeuvres au point que l'on pourrait sur certains passages s'y tromper ? Après tout les premiers concertos de Mozart sentent le Hatdn et réciproquement, et sur ceux de Beethoven le souvenir de Haydn et Mozart plane comme une fatalité. Si Beethoven n'avait pas excité les littérateurs par les problèmes romantiques et dramatiques de son existence tourmentée, il eût été un Ries ou un Mendelssohn en ce qui concerne la popularité...
Vous avez raison, je suis d'accord avec vous. Merci.
C'est un plaisir de voir manifestéer un tel accord, d'autant que j'ai quelques vagues idées en musique vu que je suis un ancien élève de Julien Falk, André Marchal, Wilhelm Kempf et Olivier Messiaen ! Ces personnages ne méprisaient pas les oeuvres de Ferdinant Ries. Je m'étonne toujours que pour bien des musiciens moins savants que ces quatre-là, Ries soit relégué au rang de plagiaire pue et simple de Beethoven. Cela me rappelle que j'ai perfois entendu dire, dans ma jeunesse, à des chefs assez connus que les symphonies de Mahler étaient "de la musique de chef d'orchestre", avec un certain dédain... À l'époque (1966) seuls Bruno Walter avait enregistré la 1ère, la 5ème, et Charles Adler la ème, sur vynile, pour le grand public... Ce qui a changé pour Mahler, changera peut-être pour Ries et les choses se rééquilibreront - sans que je veuile pour autant nier la valeur de Beethoven !
Все забывают,что и Бетховен и Рис,и кстати Черни,ученики одного австрийского мэтра,отсюда и схожесть музыки,но не более,Рис такая же фортепьяф форг
Well, I like Ries but the first movement seems to me a little fat. Too many notes to say just a few minor things.