I work as a networking engineer for MMOs, these people who say "wElL iT wAS pACkEt mAnIPuLaTIoN" literally just heard this term in highschool computer science class or from MMOs back in the early 2000s but have absolutely no idea what it actually means or entails. Packet manipulation cannot do this. If it could do this then most likely it could just spawn in all the items you could ever want, similar to what happened with party hats during RS Classic.
I saw someone responding to these dumbasses with almost the exact same response but they kept getting immensely downvoted. The hive mind always wins regardless of whether it’s factual or not.
Does OSRS even store trade item data in packets? I think Jagex most likely learned the packet forgery/manipulation lesson from the AutoRune Packet Forgery attacks and implemented some way to circumvent that from happening again. I'd imagine that if an exploit like this existed, it'd have to involve a client-side request to fake display an item in a trade window, and from what I understand that is pretty much not feasible to do unless you can somehow backdoor your target or have them install a malicious RuneLite plugin similar to ones used at the Duel Arena to hide items (which while I'm not exactly experienced with programming/coding, sounds like a client-side request as well). I could be insanely wrong, I very frequently am; so if anyone has a better idea on this whole fiasco, feel free to correct me.
Thank you Will, as a mutual expert Garfield Kart Champion I highly suggest refraining from this kind of public feedback as from this reddit community as it is tremendously ridiculous. It reminds me of the time when I was racing in Catz In the Hood (Lasagna Cup) & I finished second. The individual in the first place destroyed me, he finished with a lap time of 0.10 second so this wasn't even comparable to my time of 1:12, he was abusing a Game Shark, he cheated. This individual didn't cheat me, he cheated himself. For countless years I pondered the thought as to why he would do such an heinous activity, no, crime. The thought of this event kept me from sleeping for weeks, no, months, no, years. After some detective work I realized the man was in more pain than I could ever imagine, he was horrified by what he had done. He wanted to
This is the video of the decade. I understand some people might not get the importance of the 20 minutes long rant segment about how the industrial revolution caused such horrible things and shaped the (dystopic) way in which we live today. Thank you for blessing us with this masterpiece, Billiam.
I dont know what you're talking about. I'm an extremely active reddit user, have been for 4 years, and have never received these free awards. They aren't nearly as common as people think. Good chance most of these were purchased.
It would have been so easy to properly photoshop man. He already had the inventory with no tbow he could have just frozen it and no one would be the wiser.
Never seen your channel, I don’t even play RuneScape anymore but it still interests me for whatever reason. I found you to be funny, articulate, and overall pleasant to listen to. Subscribed
I was listening to this out of the corner of my eye. At the end, I thought I was having a stroke because of the flickering, but realized it was just Will TRADE ing.
this my first video i watched from you, i like your style, nice chill commentary that laughs at the white knights of reddit. that's the kind of content I enjoy
Btw, the wholesome award doesn't cost money necessarily, it can very easily be acquired for free every few days or so and is commonly used to just award any kind of post for comedic effect. "Staking ruined my life, 4 bil in debt as of post". WHOLESOME
This entire thing has been a riot, havent had a proper laugh at 2007scape in a while seeing how much people act like they are experts on how jagex handles the game data
For the amount of times I've complained about someone putting a circle around the thing we're supposed to look at when it's super obvious... This is the first time I actually wish there was one. I do not see the pixels.
I remember 10 years ago plus! I got scammed for a noted addy battleaxe when it was meant to be rune…. The indication of how long ago this was is that a battle axe was used when pking
I was really too poor to scam back in 07-09ish when I played. But I was dumb enough to give my login to somebody (I don't even think I knew them tbh lol) because I was stuck in the maze random event 🤣😭. Looking back at it now it's so hilarious, I'm not even some osrs pro now, but given there was no guides, no looking everything up on RUclips (we only used it for RSMVs and s***posts back then), no runelite, basically nobody had a clue back then unless you were a teenager or older. I just had no run energy and kept walking to dead ends I was like f this. RIP Grumgrum221, and then Geepgeep567. I'll never know where I came up with those names 😅😂
probably should have explained this part better my bad, basically you can tell he just put a colored tile the same color as his inventory over the twisted bow since it would go to his first inventory slot when he accepts, the easiest way to tell is to full screen the video and watch at like 0:46 you can see a little dot appears as he accepts the trade. Kinda hard to see unless you fullscreen or download the clip and zoom in
Big fan of Detective Will Exposé videos. Please do more of them and we can discover the true, darkest secrets that Runescape's most evil players have kept from the general public.
people were giving the people who were "scammed" sympathy money, kinda scary how quickly people eat this up and believed it. you just need to go to world 2 where people sell 3a & bulks to realise no such thing exists.
trust me will, the hacker rerouted the trade to the mainframe and bypassed the firewall with a spoofed ip address, thus getting through the security holes in the jagex servers. that's how they manipulate the packets
This video reminds me of conspiracy theorists... People closing their eyes on an obvious fake video and rushing to conclusions to defend a "poor" guy (the randy) who know the """REAL TRUTH""" against the eViL organization (Jagex). All with the help of surnatural explanations because "it all makes sense, trust me bro, I'm an expert and I know the truth". It's more appealing and more of a sexy story to tell to yourself, than the obvious truth.
I dont want any comments about my dirty hair or stubble i had to go full reddit detective no showers no water no talking to girls
It's cool Mr. Mammal. We intellectuals understand the amount of professional detective work that goes into a video such as this.
Good haircut Will, looking sharp these days.
where's buzz lightyear at? with your Woody headass 🤣
Hair is looking clean! Did you just get a haircut bro?
Dedication… love it
you should do more of this kind of video. it was kinda nice seeing something other than stream highlights.
Absolutely, this shit is lowkey legendary
agreed
What did you mean by this?
agreeeeeed
maybe a bit more summarizing rather than reading every word of the definitely mentally stable person's post though, otherwise golden content hah
A great analysis from the king of r/2007scape! You rock Mr. Mammal!
I love this format. More direct-to-youtube stuff please!
I work as a networking engineer for MMOs, these people who say "wElL iT wAS pACkEt mAnIPuLaTIoN" literally just heard this term in highschool computer science class or from MMOs back in the early 2000s but have absolutely no idea what it actually means or entails. Packet manipulation cannot do this. If it could do this then most likely it could just spawn in all the items you could ever want, similar to what happened with party hats during RS Classic.
can confirm i work in AAA and "customers" aka gamers say the dumbest shit thinking they have any clue at all
I saw someone responding to these dumbasses with almost the exact same response but they kept getting immensely downvoted. The hive mind always wins regardless of whether it’s factual or not.
Does OSRS even store trade item data in packets? I think Jagex most likely learned the packet forgery/manipulation lesson from the AutoRune Packet Forgery attacks and implemented some way to circumvent that from happening again. I'd imagine that if an exploit like this existed, it'd have to involve a client-side request to fake display an item in a trade window, and from what I understand that is pretty much not feasible to do unless you can somehow backdoor your target or have them install a malicious RuneLite plugin similar to ones used at the Duel Arena to hide items (which while I'm not exactly experienced with programming/coding, sounds like a client-side request as well). I could be insanely wrong, I very frequently am; so if anyone has a better idea on this whole fiasco, feel free to correct me.
Lol this dude should've just picked up a twisted bow from that one spawn outside the Farming Guild
More of this. That subreddit deserves a good ripping more often
Thank you Will, as a mutual expert Garfield Kart Champion I highly suggest refraining from this kind of public feedback as from this reddit community as it is tremendously ridiculous. It reminds me of the time when I was racing in Catz In the Hood (Lasagna Cup) & I finished second. The individual in the first place destroyed me, he finished with a lap time of 0.10 second so this wasn't even comparable to my time of 1:12, he was abusing a Game Shark, he cheated. This individual didn't cheat me, he cheated himself. For countless years I pondered the thought as to why he would do such an heinous activity, no, crime. The thought of this event kept me from sleeping for weeks, no, months, no, years. After some detective work I realized the man was in more pain than I could ever imagine, he was horrified by what he had done. He wanted to
Don't lie. Delet this
Will as an investigative journalist is what we truly need. Get one of those hats with the little press ticket in the brim and we're good to go.
"Mensa competitors" fucking killed me
I think my favorite part was the evil armchair scientist voice. Genuinely one of the best videos I’ve watched in a while lmfao
This is the video of the decade. I understand some people might not get the importance of the 20 minutes long rant segment about how the industrial revolution caused such horrible things and shaped the (dystopic) way in which we live today. Thank you for blessing us with this masterpiece, Billiam.
chill unabomber
Most of those awards are the free award that reddit gives out to everyone daily
I dont know what you're talking about. I'm an extremely active reddit user, have been for 4 years, and have never received these free awards. They aren't nearly as common as people think. Good chance most of these were purchased.
@@nc7807 i get like 2 a week, but i dont think you can get anything higher than silver from the free awards
i once gave a 'wholesome' award to a murder story lol
Loved this style of video and would like to see more in the future. Keep it up Willy.
i love when my favorite niche internet micro celebrity uploads to youtube
I was dying when he started cutting back to himself every time he said "Trade" lmao
9:03 is scarely good acting. I love this content. Hoping for more of this in the future
The texture change could be youtube's compression algorithm
Will, as a fellow Will, I would like to applaud this new format. I would give it the wholesome award if I could.
It would have been so easy to properly photoshop man. He already had the inventory with no tbow he could have just frozen it and no one would be the wiser.
but he has to make the cash stack go down, but yeah could have easily done a much better job faking it
@@StuartFromNZ it already did go down when he put the 125m up
Maybe the texture change was deliberate?
BIG fan of these types of videos would not mind seeing more recorded stuff in the future
Really enjoyed this Mr. William, very cool!
I can’t wait for the Reddit post titled, “itswill RuneScape streamer being paid off by JMods to cover up popular scamming method”
Response if it's real: "Could you recheck or could we chat about it? I'm not sure why the trade isn't showing up in your logs."
Response if it's fake:
yo this great style of video, give us more!
also, this why ill never make a reddit acc
god this was a great thread to read through, i cant believe the guy kept trying to convince people lmfao
Runescape went from a bunch of nerdy while pale kids, to nerdy white pale kids with beards and mustaches. Sheeeeesh
Never seen your channel, I don’t even play RuneScape anymore but it still interests me for whatever reason. I found you to be funny, articulate, and overall pleasant to listen to. Subscribed
9:01 _mm_ the PACKETS *adjusts monicle*
i like the every time you say "trade" edit where it cuts to your face lmao
More of this format please thank you, big kisses :)
LOL every time you switched back when you would say “trade”. 😂🤣
Thank you Will for sparing me the details.
I dig these types of vids. Wouldn't mind if you did more of these, mate.
This kind of video is super chill and just fun as shit to watch. You're a natural entertainer even outside the game. Keep up the good work, itswill7.
That was the longest paragraph I've seen written in my life.
More of this type of video! Really enjoyed it
I was listening to this out of the corner of my eye. At the end, I thought I was having a stroke because of the flickering, but realized it was just Will TRADE ing.
This better become a series
Fantastic Video dude keep making more like this itswill7
Genius editing switching to Will's camera every time the comment mentioned trade
this my first video i watched from you, i like your style, nice chill commentary that laughs at the white knights of reddit. that's the kind of content I enjoy
I got falsely banned today, my replies from the community "kinda sus" , "you deffo maCrOd" ... me as a genuine player who got falsely banned. "OK lol"
don't actually use reddit. The saddest fucking losers are on there every day
@@sweetwater2128 this what twitter haha
More detective work into the 07 subreddit please this shit is gold.
Btw, the wholesome award doesn't cost money necessarily, it can very easily be acquired for free every few days or so and is commonly used to just award any kind of post for comedic effect. "Staking ruined my life, 4 bil in debt as of post". WHOLESOME
You reading the run on sentence had me dying 😂😭
Do twitter/reddit reaction to leagues delay next
PLEASE
The direct to RUclips content is absolutely choice, keep this shit coming king the community needs it
Mean while the guy is fighting a war against all the meth mites coming out of his ceiling and skin.
Love commentary style videos. :)
Well done Will
Love this type of content. Keep up the great work detective Will.
Young Billiam has a mustache that even Sam Elliot would be proud of
i love this content bill hope to see more
Now this is the kind of content I love to see from the Itswill channel!!!
"ha gayyyyyy" lmao love that quote. and that post/comment was a pretty good troll haha
ya know Will has got a point when he goes full Waluigi at the end
When a runescape player is a sociopath.
in this video: kid with moustache sits in his bedroom criticizing his fanbase
"holy crap Lois" - Will
"Hey, Peter." -willchair guy from fam guy
Good change of pace, quality upload billy
This was great! Would love to watch more like it.
I don’t think I’ll ever be able to read the word “trade” now and not have a mental image of you pop up in my head
Trade
that mensa competitor line got me good lmao
guy who posted that on reddit was obviously high IQ meta trolling into untold layers of irony
Loved the video Will. Would enjoy more like this!
This entire thing has been a riot, havent had a proper laugh at 2007scape in a while seeing how much people act like they are experts on how jagex handles the game data
How do you fall for the remove scam now-a-days? It freaking flashes, on 2 screens, it flashes!
Bargs root beer and just the marshmallows from the lucky charms...came here for knowledge and got attacked thanks fella 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This video was actually fucking epic and not "AIDS for my MIND"
Looking forward for top5 content like this William
-Girth Wrench
For the amount of times I've complained about someone putting a circle around the thing we're supposed to look at when it's super obvious...
This is the first time I actually wish there was one. I do not see the pixels.
Would love more of these.
Mario didn’t even have a stash that gangster
ok thats enough internet for today
"so much anxiety right now"
Will, I wish you worked in the prison with me. You don’t fall for no BS.
Bass boosted flute salad gets me every time lol.
Unfortunate for people like me who were actually hacked and had my entire bank cleaned...
loved the different kind of vid will more of this format itswill7
Redditor: [cries in low IQ]
thanks for sparing the details
“Bit of a run on sentence”
please do more osrs reddit breakdown videos lmao
Great length of a drama video to watch while pooping. Highly recommended. Go will go
I remember 10 years ago plus! I got scammed for a noted addy battleaxe when it was meant to be rune…. The indication of how long ago this was is that a battle axe was used when pking
theres even a singular black pixel they missed
Love this style of commentary
I was really too poor to scam back in 07-09ish when I played. But I was dumb enough to give my login to somebody (I don't even think I knew them tbh lol) because I was stuck in the maze random event 🤣😭. Looking back at it now it's so hilarious, I'm not even some osrs pro now, but given there was no guides, no looking everything up on RUclips (we only used it for RSMVs and s***posts back then), no runelite, basically nobody had a clue back then unless you were a teenager or older. I just had no run energy and kept walking to dead ends I was like f this.
RIP Grumgrum221, and then Geepgeep567. I'll never know where I came up with those names 😅😂
The guy who wrote a book crying to mods lmfaoo
"the texture changes"
Not that you're wrong, but seriously what the fuck do you mean by this. Going frame by frame, literally nothing changes.
probably should have explained this part better my bad, basically you can tell he just put a colored tile the same color as his inventory over the twisted bow since it would go to his first inventory slot when he accepts, the easiest way to tell is to full screen the video and watch at like 0:46 you can see a little dot appears as he accepts the trade. Kinda hard to see unless you fullscreen or download the clip and zoom in
@@williesuede got it, thanks for the reply man I see exactly what you're sayin
Arm chair scientist term + Chef Boyardee background music solidified my choice to sub
I am literally shaking and crying right now! It is outrageous how Jagex allows this to go on UNCHECKED!!!
plot twist: this whole thing was made for you to make a video about and that video to blow up
This was epic narwal pwnage
I hope you make more vids like this
Big fan of Detective Will Exposé videos. Please do more of them and we can discover the true, darkest secrets that Runescape's most evil players have kept from the general public.
people were giving the people who were "scammed" sympathy money, kinda scary how quickly people eat this up and believed it. you just need to go to world 2 where people sell 3a & bulks to realise no such thing exists.
trust me will, the hacker rerouted the trade to the mainframe and bypassed the firewall with a spoofed ip address, thus getting through the security holes in the jagex servers. that's how they manipulate the packets
did you stitch this together yourself? kinda nice with it bro give us more willdesk for real
This video reminds me of conspiracy theorists...
People closing their eyes on an obvious fake video and rushing to conclusions to defend a "poor" guy (the randy) who know the """REAL TRUTH""" against the eViL organization (Jagex). All with the help of surnatural explanations because "it all makes sense, trust me bro, I'm an expert and I know the truth".
It's more appealing and more of a sexy story to tell to yourself, than the obvious truth.
Great video William, keep up the great content!
First time watching this channel and all I can think is, that's a rocking stash buddy!