I have ridden a fuel injected bike and a carburetted bike and I have found a lot of difference between the two....fuel injection ROCKS! The response is excellent and the engine revs very, very, cleanly. This is a strong selling point for the ZMR. BUT since it is way heavier than the previous model, and slower,..... why waste your money on this! Get an older model and spend that saved money on some tuning!!
ZMR : comfort, tikaoo, style, long ride, best touring machine, Aur ye bike hatte-khatte boys k liye h. P 220 : Fast, cool, city bike, ye bike collge boys k liye aur jo avrg. Hght k boyz h unke liye.
karizma can beat the p220 on mountain roads........i have a p220 and a zma r .......acquianted with the both bike handling...zma works better on mountain roads.......
For the whooping price tag of the zmr and no raqdiator, it's better to go for the p220 although zmr is better looking. Bajaj should have made more cosmetic changes to the p220 like a fullfairing!
the thing i dont like the most in karizma..is the thin rear tyre which comparitively looks like a bicycle tyre....p220 is more relaible.....karizma zmr has worked on the looks a lot....but still..i dont think its that impressive......better go for a p220 or r15
but there one FUNNY THING in herohonda if u guys noticed,none of its bike have a tyre above 100*90 size and never gave a open chain case in any of the bikes,this clearly indicates herohonda has no racing intentions on its bikes[always mileage,handling maintenance are major concerns for HH] ,karizma was made a tourer and always be a tourer and will be anything else,well then pulsar's speaks for itself even smallest pulsar [pulsar 135] has a 100*90 rear tyre and a open chain case :D
being an old karizma rider i would say the new pulsar offers better value for money than karizma zmr its kinda stupid of HH to think the bike would sell tons just on brand value alone.
@attri111 True mann...... Even Im disappointed by its design n features..... ZMR s**ks..... They shuld redesign it....Well even P220 has lots to improve... On looks n design 4 comfortable riding...What do u think????
people who say its not about the bhp have got it all wrong!! its not about the cc but ALWAYS about the bhp and the gear ratios..zmr is a load of plastic on an underpowered bike..pulsar is all engine an no stupid plastic for display sake..the tyre on pulsar looks awsm .. and the tyre on the karizma*cough*... if u want the easiest riding bike buy a splendour..pulsar is for the hardcore racer..atleast in india...plz explain if im wrong...c'mon!
ohhh...Finally a excellent review on these 2 bikes.......hav heard a lot criticism bout the ZMR but nw its all clear...... Go for P220......Without hesitation.... It's engine is better.. Weighs less Torque is better Top speed is better....and finally. 23K cheaper dan Karizma ZMR......HH sucks........
220 Pulsar is a 220 Pulsar it is not a machine its a beast which all the 220 Pulsar rides on. So, think 1000 times whenever you ZMR & R15 guys say something to the 220 riders we are riding a beast which has no limit. Note-- My Pulsar 220 has given without locking the thortle in 3rd gear i.e. is 110Km/ph if i had repaead more what 3digit no the beast would had given. Think of it.
hey regarding pulsar 220 anyone knows how much fork oil in each leg and what weight/grade should i use? i have tried 15w and 10w and they are bumpy as hell..should i try 5w and lower? thankz
Hero honda karizma is going to end up like the Bullet. 50 years from now they are still goin to have the same engine same suspension, drivetrain. But new stickers and body panels. The only difference is after 50years the bull will be still cooler than the zma. .... And the p220 is 2 sec quicker to 100 than zma... no surprises there... Hero honda need to seriously employ ppl in the R&D department and give the guys at the sticker department a rest....even the sound of the zma is like a mixie...
i seriously want to rest ride the zmr, i dont really get the point that with such ordinary power(equivalent to a 180cc bike and 3hp lesser than the pulsar 220)and laughably skinny tyres, and an irrelevant full-fairing despite the fact that its fully air-cooled....and doesnt even have an oil-cooler...
@anindyabhattacharyya the new karizma has no honda parts, its all hero. independant. so ya honda engines are good, but that doesn't say anything about any of these two bikes.
whats better in it than the pulsar 220...that makes it so much costlier.....i understand the pgmfi part.but then it definitely doesn't help the bike's feel to much an extent.iam sorry but hero honda isn't such great a company to claim such great premium over the competition...the pulsars had always been nice-feeling hassle-free...and built to last bikes...
@iirus7 its not giving an opinion (verdict) for a rating show, but rather what YOU are giving is a biased statement. These guys are professionals, they do this for a living. You probably bought a karizma and feel really crappy about it, and feel that you have to defend yourself & HH now. The Pulsars have always made better built bikes than HH, now that Honda has kicked Hero, they have no choice but to make minor aditions like Fi and re-release a bike. They should go back to making MOPEDS!!
Pulsar sounded like it was crying right at the start. The reporter was sitting awkwardly even on a Brand New pulsar. Give it six months and its shit. Handling matters alot in racing or even in normal cruising, ask any real racer. Just coz u have SLIGHTLY more power doesn't make it a better bike. Reliability counts. You could never overtake between two trucks on a Pulsar, its just highly unstable.
i really feel so bad on seeing a zmr on road.....it feels like what the hell was the buyer thinking while purchasing one....? its painful to see so many arrogant extravagent blokes blindly following the karizma tag for its cult status....and nailing their head trying to prove the point that they had been intelligent enough while wasting their money on such a bad value for money bike...they know that they had been idiots so now they keep on fighting to hide the fact
So you are saying that you are giving a more neutral opinion dont you, I would suggest you should read what you have given as a neutral statement here by you. By the way back in 1999 when every body was going after 100cc bikes it was Herohonda that introduced CBZ and started the change. Try to be more rational and every one knows that the build quality and reliability of Bajaj is nothing good to compare with Herohonda.
suno sab mujhe chines japanes aur koi bhi vidasy gaadi pasand nahi hum indian hai aur mujhe sirf indian creation i meant mujhe sirf or sirf pulsar pasand hai rahi baat milage or racing ki to sab rider ke haath me hota hai yaaaaar
watch this video u'll cum to know which is better bike.......... pulsar is the best bike in india........ thats y i hav two palsars i love pulsar.......no bike stands in front of pulsar...
Well to all those blukes who have purchased such a bad wanna be.....who have purchased ZMR....dude u need to get ur basic rides...a sports bike means raw power it means bhp it means tourqe and finally the top speed and the accleration...zmr has nothing even a pulsar 180 wuld beat it its got better power to weight ratio then zmr does...and all u ladies better watch out for the king of indian made bikes and that throne belongs to 220 pular till there is some bike else with more power..:)
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I have ridden a fuel injected bike and a carburetted bike and I have found a lot of difference between the two....fuel injection ROCKS! The response is excellent and the engine revs very, very, cleanly. This is a strong selling point for the ZMR.
BUT since it is way heavier than the previous model, and slower,..... why waste your money on this! Get an older model and spend that saved money on some tuning!!
I love the way he gets off the ZMR and runs towards the Pulsar...
ZMR : comfort, tikaoo, style, long ride, best touring machine, Aur ye bike hatte-khatte boys k liye h.
P 220 : Fast, cool, city bike, ye bike collge boys k liye aur jo avrg. Hght k boyz h unke liye.
karizma can beat the p220 on mountain roads........i have a p220 and a zma r .......acquianted with the both bike handling...zma works better on mountain roads.......
nicely said!!!
what were hero honda thinking while desighning ZMR .....aliens!!!
:)
Both ZMR and 220 are gud....but ZMR white color luks ugly to the core...nothing compared to the black one which looks like a beast....
according to me ZMR z d bst bike .....my karizma zmr's top spd z 142 so fr me it z d bst .......
@viveknarayanbose
Within 9-10month pulsar suck, where R15 & karizma rock ,also feel very much comfortable
For the whooping price tag of the zmr and no raqdiator, it's better to go for the p220 although zmr is better looking.
Bajaj should have made more cosmetic changes to the p220 like a fullfairing!
220,s steering is smooth even at low speed, its wheel base is so strong that u can ride without any fear of skid, even on wet roads.
Pulsar without bajaj is good, but its Bajaj that makes pulsar not so worthy at all. :)
cheers
Like Zmr for new show.
Who wins kariZma zMr ir pulSar 220?
ZMR ROCKS ....the head turner :P
yaar karizma is gud in every way...bajaj bikes are lagging behind in technology as well as quality....
i love and like zmr
KARIZMA ZMR ROCKSSS!!!!!!!!!
the thing i dont like the most in karizma..is the thin rear tyre which comparitively looks like a bicycle tyre....p220 is more relaible.....karizma zmr has worked on the looks a lot....but still..i dont think its that impressive......better go for a p220 or r15
but there one FUNNY THING in herohonda if u guys noticed,none of its bike have a tyre above 100*90 size and never gave a open chain case in any of the bikes,this clearly indicates herohonda has no racing intentions on its bikes[always mileage,handling maintenance are major concerns for HH]
,karizma was made a tourer and always be a tourer and will be anything else,well then pulsar's speaks for itself even smallest pulsar [pulsar 135] has a 100*90 rear tyre and a open chain case :D
being an old karizma rider i would say the new pulsar offers better value for money than karizma zmr its kinda stupid of HH to think the bike would sell tons just on brand value alone.
honda engine quality is the best
PULSAR 220 IS THE BEST BIKE
when u say vs we think it is a race, and we watch. Don't do that again.
both bike r like predetor
speed depend on rider
agar rider ki fati padi ho to kya khak calayega
@attri111 True mann...... Even Im disappointed by its design n features..... ZMR s**ks..... They shuld redesign it....Well even P220 has lots to improve... On looks n design 4 comfortable riding...What do u think????
speed is not necessary in the streets on india, it's all about comfort and looks.
no way!!P220 rules!!i can say tht coz i own a P220........and also A ZMA!!
I LOVE ND LIKE ZMR
karizma beat pulsar 220 even if pulsar have bhp 21.6 its not all about bhp
people who say its not about the bhp have got it all wrong!! its not about the cc but ALWAYS about the bhp and the gear ratios..zmr is a load of plastic on an underpowered bike..pulsar is all engine an no stupid plastic for display sake..the tyre on pulsar looks awsm .. and the tyre on the karizma*cough*... if u want the easiest riding bike buy a splendour..pulsar is for the hardcore racer..atleast in india...plz explain if im wrong...c'mon!
ohhh...Finally a excellent review on these 2 bikes.......hav heard a lot criticism bout the ZMR but nw its all clear......
Go for P220......Without hesitation....
It's engine is better..
Weighs less
Torque is better
Top speed is better....and finally.
23K cheaper dan Karizma ZMR......HH sucks........
220 Pulsar is a 220 Pulsar it is not a machine its a beast which all the 220 Pulsar rides on. So, think 1000 times whenever you ZMR & R15 guys say something to the 220 riders we are riding a beast which has no limit. Note-- My Pulsar 220 has given without locking the thortle in 3rd gear i.e. is 110Km/ph if i had repaead more what 3digit no the beast would had given. Think of it.
hey regarding pulsar 220 anyone knows how much fork oil in each leg and what weight/grade should i use? i have tried 15w and 10w and they are bumpy as hell..should i try 5w and lower? thankz
Hero honda karizma is going to end up like the Bullet. 50 years from now they are still goin to have the same engine same suspension, drivetrain. But new stickers and body panels. The only difference is after 50years the bull will be still cooler than the zma. ....
And the p220 is 2 sec quicker to 100 than zma... no surprises there...
Hero honda need to seriously employ ppl in the R&D department and give the guys at the sticker department a rest....even the sound of the zma is like a mixie...
220is best perfomense.
east or west ____my pulsar 220 is best .....
i ride the those bikes!! but i thank zmr is faster than 220!!!
i seriously want to rest ride the zmr, i dont really get the point that with such ordinary power(equivalent to a 180cc bike and 3hp lesser than the pulsar 220)and laughably skinny tyres, and an irrelevant full-fairing despite the fact that its fully air-cooled....and doesnt even have an oil-cooler...
@anindyabhattacharyya the new karizma has no honda parts, its all hero. independant. so ya honda engines are good, but that doesn't say anything about any of these two bikes.
Wat is pulsar 220,180,200??Moto racing hav not dis bike product, E.g honda,Yamaha,kawasaki,Ducati etc
whats better in it than the pulsar 220...that makes it so much costlier.....i understand the pgmfi part.but then it definitely doesn't help the bike's feel to much an extent.iam sorry but hero honda isn't such great a company to claim such great premium over the competition...the pulsars had always been nice-feeling hassle-free...and built to last bikes...
you guys can keep fighting... i will just ride my unicorn away :)
cheers.
@iirus7
its not giving an opinion (verdict) for a rating show, but rather what YOU are giving is a biased statement.
These guys are professionals, they do this for a living. You probably bought a karizma and feel really crappy about it, and feel that you have to defend yourself & HH now.
The Pulsars have always made better built bikes than HH, now that Honda has kicked Hero, they have no choice but to make minor aditions like Fi and re-release a bike. They should go back to making MOPEDS!!
pulsar ka koi mukabla nahi
pulsar is the best!
Pulsar sounded like it was crying right at the start. The reporter was sitting awkwardly even on a Brand New pulsar. Give it six months and its shit. Handling matters alot in racing or even in normal cruising, ask any real racer. Just coz u have SLIGHTLY more power doesn't make it a better bike. Reliability counts. You could never overtake between two trucks on a Pulsar, its just highly unstable.
220 is a asommmm
220 is de besttttttttttt
yep i totally agree bro
karizma rockzzz!!!
pulsar+awesome=PAWSOME ;)
nice video
i think its better than 220
i really feel so bad on seeing a zmr on road.....it feels like what the hell was the buyer thinking while purchasing one....? its painful to see so many arrogant extravagent blokes blindly following the karizma tag for its cult status....and nailing their head trying to prove the point that they had been intelligent enough while wasting their money on such a bad value for money bike...they know that they had been idiots so now they keep on fighting to hide the fact
So you are saying that you are giving a more neutral opinion dont you, I would suggest you should read what you have given as a neutral statement here by you. By the way back in 1999 when every body was going after 100cc bikes it was Herohonda that introduced CBZ and started the change. Try to be more rational and every one knows that the build quality and reliability of Bajaj is nothing good to compare with Herohonda.
@vikrantmaan12345 pulsar never suck...r15 n karizma can't touch 220 bike...220 Rocks...
suryaprakash707 ur rong bro 220 is best bike in india agar aap se nhi chalti toh aap yeh kah rhe ho
sahi han fati ko chlene nahi ata
HUH> see d vid> KARIZMA vs 220 vs apache rtr 160 fi> karizma beat 220> its not all about bhp
Pulsar 220 baap of all indian bikes else than yamaha r15
@shaan123ist karizma the best
pulsar220 is best.go for 220.
good anchor
noting is better than R15
it just look like a modified bike........H H keep trying someday u will also get style........llllllloooollllll
i love pulsar
hahahahaha TOTAL SHAME for hero honda !! XD lol
suno sab mujhe chines japanes aur koi bhi vidasy gaadi pasand nahi hum indian hai aur mujhe sirf indian creation i meant mujhe sirf or sirf pulsar pasand hai rahi baat milage or racing ki to sab rider ke haath me hota hai yaaaaar
pulser 220 best¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡FOREVER
i had a choice of r15 n zmr i m glag i brought d r15
P 220 is best
watch this video u'll cum to know which is better bike..........
pulsar is the best bike in india........
thats y i hav two palsars
i love pulsar.......no bike stands in front of pulsar...
bhai logo.......bajaj kuch bhi kr le hero honda to hero honda he hai....m i ri8...??
Well to all those blukes who have purchased such a bad wanna be.....who have purchased ZMR....dude u need to get ur basic rides...a sports bike means raw power it means bhp it means tourqe and finally the top speed and the accleration...zmr has nothing even a pulsar 180 wuld beat it its got better power to weight ratio then zmr does...and all u ladies better watch out for the king of indian made bikes and that throne belongs to 220 pular till there is some bike else with more power..:)
lol i bet karizma zmr with my puslar 200
220 is the best with kiler luks ride ride quality and also hav gud milege zmr sucks and such a waste bike
pulsar 220 rockssssssss
This " bikes " are way too smal.
east or west pulsar 220 is the best
again again again
haha owned.
Two mokka bikes in india....
pulsar 22o ka koi mukabla nahi hai .
both bike sucks...