Best Pneumatic Framing Nailer Head To Head
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For this Head-to-Head evaluation, nailers were chosen based on the following criteria: Capable of firing up to 3-1/2″ full-head framing nails, full-size tools (nothing from the compact category), and capacity to hold at least two full strips of nails.
Milwaukee Tool
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Picked up the Makita last year in a pinch for a project I had to get done. Has held up great every time and overall just feels good in the hand. It was my first Makita tool but absolutely hasn’t been my last. They put out a great product. I’m Not a framer - just a general contractor building decks and putting up stud walls etc.
Interesting, I bought a Makita framer instead of the tried and true Hitachi years ago, I had nothing but problems with my Makita. It jammed regularly, misfired, and shot blanks reliably. :( It ended up in the trash because I couldn't in good conscious sell it to someone else. I glad you and this review had a reliable Makita framer. Today I would buy a Milwaukee.
Yeah I'm a framer and this is the last makita framing gun I'll ever buy. It's only a year old and I've had all kinds of problems with it. I've already had to buy over $50 in replacement parts for it. My metabo and bostitch framers are older and haven't had many, if any problems.
I love Makita tools and own a LOT of them, but for pneumatics I've always gone with Hitachi (now Metabo HPT). The rebrand hasn't changed their core products any, and I've had nothing but success with the four hitachi Nailers I run.
Hitachi NR83 & Max SuperFramer have proved out over time for us. The home improvement store tool lines are okay but not the same quality as commercial grade models. PneuTools deserve an honorable mention as well.
Best framer ever
I absolutely love all of your methodical tests, but my only remaining question for all of your head to heads is durability/ lifespan. I believe you did a follow up on a few tests. However I think that it’s a category worth ranking. Still you guys are a great authority for my tool purchases.
I’ve been selling and wrenching on nail guns for nearly 20 years. The 3 you mentioned are the only ones worth buying if you’re running a framing crew, but not the metabo NR90, the NR83 is vastly superior. Serviceability kills the other 6 brands. The craftsman and porter cable are black and decker. In 2 years you’ll need a full rebuild because the o-rings turn into chewing gum. The metabo nr90 eats bumpers. The ridgid is limited on parts availability. Most improved is Makita. I used to just suggest the garbage when they broke, but they’ve improved dramatically in the last 5 years. I’m a paslode fan myself. They take 10 minutes for a tip to bottom rebuild. There’s a service center within an hour or two of most places. The nails are some of the best in the industry, especially their galvanized products. Senco is a dying company. I could go into how I know and why, but their parts availability is becoming nonexistent. I’ll need 3 parts for a repair and I’ll get 2 and the third is backordered indefinitely. I’ve had a part on order since February of 2021 for a stapler. It’s 18 months later and I still don’t have it. This stapler is still currently being manufactured too. They used to be made in Cincinnati, but now most of their stuff is Chinese or Taiwanese. They’ve somehow found a way to make them more expensive while outsourcing manufacturing.
Good review, it came down to Milwaukee and Makita for me. I have many great, reliable Makita tools, but went with Milwaukee this time because of three things, this review, the housing is magnesium and its a pretty red and all my others tools are blue or green.
I enjoyed your video but everyone knows hitachi makes the best nailers its not even close
Paslode Powermaster pro has to be my favorite
Max guns!
Yeah, but I feel that the nails are too expensive
Mardyyeboy , you get wutcha pay for brotha
I've always used Bostich. They are indestructible and have a 7 year warranty.
I know this is 3 years old but the Milwaukee is $159 @ HD
I like the hearing protection you are wearing... Except I know you don't wear it on the job sites... That's facts...lol
I usually wear foam plugs, not always
Love how they handle the guns like after years of handling them affects their physical health and not the beers after work everyday 😂 “kick back will dislocate your wrist,
Huh?
The neighbors must love you lol. Great head to head as always.
Luukas Ovaska luckily I’m a good neighbor
I've been framing for 42 years before nail guns
I started framing the same year they came out with green vynal sinkers, I hand drove nails production framing for about 7 years before guns came out
It was hilti, pasload, Halstead,
They all pretty much went to the sidelines when Hitachi came out, I have 4 Hitachi right now, I'm a framing contractor, Hitachi is king 👑
All the others are copying Hitachi
I dropped one of my Hitachi from about 18 feet straight onto the concrete slab, it bounced about 5 feet, I thought it was ruined, nothing wrong with it, let see these other nail guns do thattttt lol
Soml
Hitachi all the way I am a framer 💪🏻 I love nailing with my gun
Do you reccomend the 21 or 30 degree more over the other ? Mostly for fencing
@@tleonard410 30! Clips are more compact, doesn’t shoot plastic pieces all over the place and they’re always more reliable in my experience
Japanese are very innovative in their work personally have exposure to makita always makita has few weaknesses but brand is convenient for everything, Hitachi good but not available for everyone.
I got a hitachi refurb for $120 like 5 years ago and it's quite literally still humming without fail. I'm fairly amazed.
I have a similar story and experience. Excellent nailer
Same here - Hitachi is bullet proof
rickrudd now called Metabo HPT their lineage is nailers - great line!
@@ConcordCarpenter yeah, I don't know if I'll ever be able to reprogram my brain on that one. Maybe in 10 years, lol. Keep up the good work guys
I've only had mine a year, love it. Also a refurb.
hitachi/metabo any time anywhere, just thinking about it makes me wana blast some nails!
I think we got a bad one. It jams steadily and now leaks bad around the trigger.
@@aaronwilton8738 Me too repaired twice within 6 months nice nail gun when it worked . Light weight comes at a durability cost .
Hitachi is King in the framing nailer category, I thought everyone knew that
@bigelite94 case and point
hitachi doest exist anymore fam. get informed.
@@franktib alright jackass, we were all referring to our old school bought used Hitachi nail guns. Pretty sure everyone that watches this channel knows about metabo
@@franktib we all know the name change and dont give a shit its hitachi, your not a smart guy for being told to call it matabo doing it
Ya
my old school 20 year old Hitachi nr83 is around the weight of a sledgehammer. And the durability. And it works just fine for banging framing into place. Best tool Hitachi ever made, I have trouble believing a modern tool is better, though I can easily believe they weigh less
In 8 years and tens of thousands of nails, i have never lost my tip on the Bostich never even close or an issue
Thank you for sharing! I’m a contractor and since finding your channel a year ago I’ve purchased every tool based on the outcome of your reviews. I wish you well and hope you continue to share honest outcomes with us.
This is incredible, it surely took hundreds of hours in creating and organizing data. I really appreciate the depth and lack of bias in your testing
Top 5 Framing Nailers:
1. Hitachi
2. Hitachi
3. Hitachi
4. Hitachi
5. Hitachi
Top 5 Roofing Nailers:
1. Bostitch
2. Bostitch
3. Bostitch
4. Bostitch
5. Bostitch
If you're going to be using a nailer all day every day the metabo is the only gun you should consider
Blasting back in time here but Metabo, Paslode, and old Senco (The newer guns hold up alright as well but tend to have a few more quality control issues). Those are about all you want to mess with when you have to hang on to one most of the day. It really comes down to balance and feel in your hand. Another pretty major point is durability as well as how cheap/ easy they are to rebuild and get parts for. You have to remember that framing guns are dropped to the floor pretty regularly through the day and occasionally a bit higher, also used as hammers maybe way more than they should be... With that said we still have guns that work and are pushing 30+ years old.
The Milwaukee is trash used them to frame a house and the big threaded bottom always came loose and the screws around the nose fell off
Milwaukee is the #1 company for innovation even if they make occasional duds.
Hitachi NR83 the best number one period
For as long as i can remember more than 20yrs and nobody has came close to hitachi
Love my Metabo HPT, no mechanical issues. Just bummed it didnt come with a hook.
I liked mine too, but it didn't like below zero weather. The rails have a tendency to get marred up also.
@@christopherw4527 a year later, still love the nailer but I would have been happier with the 30degree version for more capacity.
Thanks I have ben waiting . Hitachi NR 83a3 or paslode f350sAll the Way
Why the nr90 and no nr83? My Nr83 is king imo, and I rock a Nv83 when I'm working on the ground (same gun but coil-fed.)
He didn’t put that beast in purpose cuz he knew that Hitachi NR83A would kick the shit of those guns it’s the king of kings I own two of those n most of the framers want to buy them from me
Yet another great head to head guys. Although Makita wasn't the outright winner, I still feel they have finally woken up, got their foot back in the door and are competing to be one of the top brands like they were many years ago....IMHO ;-)
Oh so you mean best one besides Hitatchi Nr83a? Cuz real MFs know
No Dewalt? Harbor freight?
Harbor freight......LMAO
PaleHorse 😂
I'll be shocked if Hitachi doesn't take this. Ok I guess because of your criteria of 3 1/2 you didn't include 83A5. It would be interesting to see where it would line up against these guns.
Lynn Dunn that’s s great nailer!
I bet the neighbors hated you that day😂😂😂
Surprised you didn’t rate the venting system if it had a swivel or not. On my ridgid it does and sometimes it’s handy to move the exhaust port away from a surface or my face so I dont get hit with it or debris it blows up.
I think I would choose the Matabo HPT because of the weight and price. Those two things alone would probably easily swing my decision
Man, you guys rock excellent comprehensive review, which is one of the best I've seen in tools. Thank you very much for all the hard work you guys put to produce this high quality video.
Where's the Hitachi/metabo nr83a5? It's the gun that pros use. That Hitachi you're testing is the cheap homeowner version
Funny i left a similar comment. Those, paslode and max are all i see in the field. Max is awesome but they fall apart rather quickly
All I’ve ever bought. They’re practically indestructible. Break something? Their made in mass. Cheap parts.
When it wears down, just replace the piston & the gun is like new. Wear out the slide? Same story.
I honestly couldn’t believe the 83a5 wasn’t on here
The hitachi or Hikoki as it’s now called is the the most professional used by pros around the world Milwaukee is now way at the top total biast review
@@9mmkahr Max is way over rated
I have the Milwaukee, but after borrowing a Hitatchi for a couple days when mine needed a new valve, I wish I'd gone with that instead. The weight and compact size is something you really notice after a full day of work, and it was hard to go back.
Yeah the Metabo HPT/Hitachi framers they tested was their budget model and it's still on top but the pro level Hitachi/Metabo HPT nailers are the best in the business- not even close
This is just a guy who really seems like she knows what he’s talking about when he actually doesn’t,and these poor guys in the video clearly can’t handle a nail gun
The best, and most thorough - real world review of framing nailers I've seen on all of RUclips. Great work. I'll tune in for other things with you guys for sure. Q: other than the obvious angles, what is the benefit of the various angles on the nailers and what to buy if only going to buy one for around the homestead?
I started my apprenticeship in 2000 in the Uk and in all that time I think I’ve only ever seen 1 pneumatic nailer (UK)
Yup I have used a couple up in 🏴 but they are a pain in the tits .passload or gas is better for me although the gas needs to be warm .some days in - temps you need to keep a couple in your pocket and warm an switch them over although my passload has worked in -20 c .
cool story
I dont understand why hitachi won't put a hook on their stick nailers ..
The Paslode PF350S which was favorably reviewed on this channel years ago was omitted. It’s full head (offset) and capable of 3.5” nails. How does that one rank compared to all of these.
To much bla bla bla; just get to the review, features, reliability, cost.
Thanks for that great info.Just went to Home Depot and got the last Milwaukee 7200-20
Nr83A series is almost unbeatable... Suprised you didn't test it.
MontrealLather I have this one bro is a beast
That model is no longer made, but yes nothing comes close to that tool.
@@palehorse5275 i know the original a to a4 variants are no longer produced but they still make the Nr83a5 which still performs exceptionally well. Especially when compared to the crap they tested in the video. Crap with exception to the Paslode and maybe the senco. And where is the max superframer it should have been included. Talk to any serious framing crew and you wont see most of these junk home depot nailers.
Very good review
I enjoyed i have
Like my senco
Paslode framing gun or gtfo
Fuck that shitty gun real framers use Hitachi NR83A
Yeah that Allen key depth adjustment on my Paslode is so annoying. But don’t use it enough to invest in a Milwaukee.
I feel like all the companies can learn from each other and make one great nailer!
Great H2H you guys!
I set mine 12 years ago and never touched it since, same with the trigger.
Still waiting on that 1/2" impact Head-To-Head.
Father Firefighter haha right - you remind me often
@@ConcordCarpenter Really love y'alls videos, just giving ya a hard time. Keep up there good work.
Good job Rob
One of the most detailed, insightful, well thought out, fair, and professional reviews I have ever watched.
Wish you guys would have included the max super framer in the test
Joshua Clinger we tried, they never got back to us
I came here looking for the Max Super Framer also to see how it compared. I love mine
WCSD I hear it’s a good brand
You guys should also start to incorporate tools from harbor freight. I got the banks framing nailer for like $80 and it’s doing good.
Have never seen any review this comprehensive. Very professional.
Great job guys, very thorough! Just picked up the Milwaukee the other day for fun, certainly don't need it. After framing for close to fifty years, it was one of those "just gota have it, but won't be using it as much as I'd like". Still have my Bostitch N80S, I think I got in the early 80's, it's still going strong too.
It was good to see another tool belt like mine, the Occidental green with leather, again, I got that in the 80's, no shit, you can not wear those out! I think back then I paid $115.00 for it, definitely you get what you pay for...not sure why the belts shorter than it used to be..., I think all cubs should go that route, same with the framing hammer, save your elbows guys and gals, get a Ruger 14 oz. titanium stiletto with axe handle, frames just like my old much heavier Estwings with less fatigue and less elbow surgeries. Thanks again, really enjoyed and appreciate all the work you put into this.
Nice to see someone talking about stuff from the old days. I still have a couple N80SBs and though I swung several different hammers, the Estwing 22oz was my long term favorite. Guess it's time I pony up for a Ti hammer.
So, since y'all are actual contractors with day jobs, do you just like, tell everyone "Hey next friday we're doing a test day! Bring ya beers!" and just go to town? I'd love to see a video of how you guys organize and put on these events with your crews.
Professional framers use Hitachi NR83A or NR83AA. There's really no competition. They only shoot 3 1/4" with the stock magazine, but they are far superior to everything tested here. I've always viewed everything tested here as a homeowner tool (besides Senco and Paslode).
With an aftermarket magazine they are awesome. The stock mag is ok until you bend it which doesnt take long.
I love the videos you put out. Keep up the great work!
I’m set on getting the Metabo but not sure about paper collated or plastic. I know the difference between the two just not sure of the pros and cons for each one. Please help. Thank you
Great Head to Head as always, but I think you guys chose the wrong Bostitch to compare. The LPF33PT is a much better all around nailer being smaller, lighter, cheaper (even cheaper than the HPT), better rafter hook, better ergonomics. The only downside is that it as a little less power. I've been using many brands in the past and the LPF33PT is by far my favorite, even better than the Hitachi NR90ADS (now the Metabo HPT), which is over 8 years old by the way. And I don't say that after using it for a couple of hours, but ratter over 125 000 nails without any jams. I think you missed out on a potential winner here.
MrArcticPOWER thanks - great feedback
Thank you Rob! Brilliant review! Very helpful! Keep up the awesome work!
Been using a hitachi for 35 years. But there should have been one more category and that is the importance of each category. Which weight is near if not at the top of The list. I’m old-school would like to try the Milwaukee, but the hitachi is still king.
As always good job Rob.
well the importance of each category varys depending on who you ask... someone young might want max depth and magazine size but not car for weight while someone getting up there in years might be alright with a smaller magazine and having the a proud nail here and there if the nailer is lighter, also some people can do all their nailing on the ground or saw horses while others do most of it overhead/ on a wall again changing whats best
Hi Andrew, I've used a hitachi when I was 20 years old and I used Hitachi when I was 55 years old. And every year in between. Always had a two clip magazine on it.never met a framer that did ALL his work on the ground, and certainly not ALL on sawhorses. Actually very little on sawhorses. I know a heavy nail gun is not what you want when you're bent over framing a wall, not too good on the back.
And the last part of your reply "on a wall again changing what's best"I don't even know what that means.
I'll give you the nailing depth, which is why I would like to try Milwaukee.
The bottom line is I will take light before heavy on any tool that comes to mind right now. Keep in mind a framer has a nail gun in their hand probably 50%of the day. But I agree proud nails are a bitch to come back and finish off.
Jesus these guys handle a gun like their first time. Fast fumbling. Slow and smooth yall
One of the guys working with-us is a carpenter apprentice. Not sure which your referring to. Either way we agree that slow is smooth and smooth is fast
*You should had included the Estwing Framing Nailer! It's a good nailer with good features at a good price*
I also run the estwing nailer and I love it. It's powerful and Light and down in Texas I think I'm the only human being with it so it always draws a lot of questions from other Carpenters.
If you get your hands on a metabo hpt table saw please do a review. Not buying a dewalt
I bought one and love it. Its very smooth running motor.
I’ve still got my Hitachi NR 83A5(S) as my main nailer and I’ve got a great Paslode as a back up. That Paslode is a workhorse! I think I might have to pick up one of those Milwaukee though. I noticed it kept coming to the forefront throughout all the tests. Thanks so much for this!
I still have paslode tools come into my shop that are 25+ years old. A few o-rings and they’re good as new. The tool has had only a few minor changes since about 96-97.
@@stevewhiting556 Paslode is rugged for sure
Max framer and Hitachi 390 by far the best Milwaukee and makita? Must be a joke
Hitachi was the best until they sold it to metabo then became trash along with Milwaukee that's trash too!!
I don't see the best here
Hitachi COIL FRAMING nailer!!!!
Stick nails are nice too but I hate reloading more than twice as often on spikes
I have sworn by my new cordless hitachi nailer but it lost pressure recently and we used a DeWalt pneumatic and I must say that it worked like a charm every time although there were times that the cord was a real pain. Pneumatic tools are so much cheaper and here in Canada there is no problem with their batteries going dead in the cold. So I have fixed my cordless nailer with a top up on the pressure tank but I now plan to pick up a Milwaulkee or Metabo now based on your recomendation
Craftsman and portercable the tips arent sharp so homeowners dont get a booboo
Hitachi is the best hands down. Lightweight and compact .
Great review! As far as the nailing tips.... a round file or Dremel/Foredom with appropriate round stone will give you senco like pics. I run Senco day in day out just keeps producing no issues.
Just about to build a shed. Thank you for this video. Can’t wait to pick up a Milwaukee or Makita.
Where's the dewalt ???
Can anyone tell me where you can find a claw head to swap with the round head on the Milwaukee? They only sell them with round head now which astonishes me.
i was a professional home builder for 30 years, the way I use a mo-mar tip is to set it up for flush nailing with it in place, it helps keep you flatter for a better flush nail the pop it off to sink nail. on another note I've used ever made framing gut made over the years from Ridgid to duo-fast and everything in between, by far the finest framing gun all around that I've used was the Bosch professional blue, sadly it's no longer in production. it had the hardest hitting dive I have ever felt and had all the other features you like plus the slide release was a nice lever action.
No discussion, of any kind, about air nailers is complete without a companion discussion on portable air compressors in terms of portability, serviceability, noise, and ability to use the compressor in a variety of situations including nailing on a roof, protection for outdoor elements (rain, snow, dust, sawdust), and variety of applications (not just for air nailers; can it be used to inflate tires, etc.)
PS: Put a 1000 hrs on the guns and then test them.
I sold all my Bostitch and Paslode nailers (all types) 2 years ago and replaced them all with Metabo.
usually I'm with you on your reviews but having used nailers for the last 30 years ahh no you must have the paslode set up wrong or a ring is blown because I've never seen 1 of mine not set the nail like that sure the odd one but a row nope never
framergod69 that was at mid-range depth of drive. At full depth it was able to do it. I own this exact nailer - it’s awesome
@@ConcordCarpenter ahh ok .
I agree, i have the 100 plus and its never let be down or jammed in 12 years
WHY are you guys using the cheapo model hitachi? Why not the NR83a5??? Simply the best gun flat out.
Awesome video. Milwaukee it is
Too bad there is not a longevity test . I have been using framing nailers for 30 years . The old bostich were tough but now the paslode gives me the most carefree operation .
Paslode💨👑
Nice review but you definitely should do a battery one
Personally I have been using the Hitachi $88 at Menards. Lightweight and reliable. So good I bought a second one.The cordless Metabo has outstanding countersink abilities. If you are looking at countersinking the Paslode with the square head would most likely beat everyone here, I would pay the extra over the power master +
the most important factor is reliability. Vendors may have many models with different capability: 3-1/4 vs 3-1/2, 0.131/0.148/0.162 nails, these are not addressed. Metabo now is made in Taiwan quality not as good as Hitachi, their nails may be too soft, and I think they have no dry fire lock
I use a cheapo numax.. its got all the features but fuggers heavy and pretty big for a framer but the thing will blow halfway through a 2x4 if set to full depth.. the plunger is oversized so you get all the bang.. the downside is the magazine has something up with it that causes it not to fire a nail every time.. so itll leave a good punch in the wood. Even though it has the dryfire lockout.. if it fails to fire than the lockout doesnt matter.. its never jammed on me. Even when double bump fired. It just pushes the second nail through the head of the first nail almost half a 3” nail.. but didnt jam or bend anything.. for 50$ the thing is a beast.. i can toss it around and not worry about hurting the wallet too much..
I have the senco 325 and I know it only shoots 3.25 inch nails it has the same rafter hook of the porter cable, the depth adjustment is out of the wat in front, seems like it's a better thought out gun. I've only put about 6000 nails through it so far and it's only had one jam and that's because the head came off a nail and got wedged in sideways.
The MAX high pressure nail gun beats all these nailers in this video in every metrics. Weight, speed, air efficiency, nail capacity, thinner hose, smaller compressor needed, less air needed, power, noise, etc…
Hi!
Do you know any 100mm nail gun, where can I buy online
Bostich coil gun, the big one
I buyed a new senco and it last just 3 hours framing walls just put good air in the paslode and it will perform better than anyone
Air nailer and hearing pro? Really? A hammer is louder in my opinion because of the reverberation of the material hammering into…. Unless your inside a closed area than its not that loud to me. Always use it for any angle grinder or reciprocating or circular saw..
All i know is that if i walked onto any framing crew and saw anything but hitachis, paslodes, or interchange pros being used, im not hiring that crew. Bc they clearly dont have a clue
I just bought a Metabo 15 gauge, 130 with a 5 year warranty, come on, also its the only nailer prettier than a makita which I have the 18 gauge and it reminds me of a 57 chevy
I got 20yrs on my pasload pneumatic and it’s been abused rarely oiled and never broke down yet
I agree that pasload are pretty reliable, but years doesn't mean anything. It's the number of nails driven that matters. I'd say a good nailer should run over 100K nails before needing maintenance.
MrArcticPOWER I have well over 50 million nails thru mine....I have pasload drop off tractor trailer loads of nails every week and I spend 17hrs a day shooting nails into lvl’s…… I’m 89lbs I don’t eat ,my wife and kids left me cause all I do is spend money on nails and electricity to power my compressor… all that’s left of the gun is the firing pin and I use it like a nail set… 😂😂🤣 lol I agree
@@sickandtiredofcomplaining6574 Great comment, now I feel like I've known you for years!
MrArcticPOWER I almost shit myself when writing that..I was laughing so hard.. I’m pretty good at that you may have seen many of my comments highlighted..I usually blow people’s minds and I crack myself up... it gets boring on the bowl lmao
You didn’t test the hitachi, matabo, commercial nailer.
Francisco Martinez is it a full size nailer capable of 2 nail strip? They have seversl
I have two senco's from 2008 which have held up well....but hitachi's are great
Listen I got an auger and bit set exactly like the one on the wall it was my Gradfathers from way back in the early 1900s like before of just after the wars I and II.
Do you guys ever not pick Milwaukee? What a sham.
Waffles 2-107 yes all the time here one of our latest ruclips.net/video/ldH0Q0JwLXk/видео.html