RAM Cummins Stock Air Intake - Foam or No Foam

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  • Опубликовано: 7 ноя 2024

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  • @jeremystone5640
    @jeremystone5640 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the data, I just saw another guy claim that it's a great thing to just remove it, although really small differences I'll just take the foam off. Thanks

  • @armoredsaint6639
    @armoredsaint6639 4 года назад +1

    I use my truck for work everyday. I have to say I love how quiet my 2019 Ram 3500 dually Turbo Cummins diesel is. Rolling Coal and hearing the turbo scream is cool when you're hanging out in a parking lot with your friends but if you have too actually earn a living with your truck Then do yourself and everyone else a favor and keep that foam baffel right were it is! Just my opinion folks and as I learn more from watching Marion's videos perhaps I'll change my mind but for now it rides quiet and I sleep well when it's idling!

    • @MarionBlair
      @MarionBlair  4 года назад

      agree just check it once in a while to make sure it's not deteriorating as your truck gets older

    • @armoredsaint6639
      @armoredsaint6639 4 года назад

      Yes Sir I will and thanks again for all your time and excellent content! I have truly learned a lot of helpful tips from you!

  • @NickBeek
    @NickBeek 2 года назад

    I watched the other video and after it ended I was left happy to know the baffle is better in place, but wishing I knew about the foam.Glad to see you applied the same methodical approach to answer the foam question. My foam will be coming out tomorrow! :) Thanks for the videos Mr Marion.

  • @derek1447
    @derek1447 5 лет назад +3

    I have my foam off and pulled our camper this weekend. The only time you really hear the noise is when truck is accelerating. It’s not to noisy. Thanks for the video. Great job.

    • @MarionBlair
      @MarionBlair  5 лет назад

      Yes, I feel the same way, thanks

  • @davesmith4479
    @davesmith4479 5 лет назад +11

    Always happy to see a new Cummins video from you, Marion. Hope y'all are doing very well!

    • @MarionBlair
      @MarionBlair  5 лет назад +3

      Thanks, I'm good, I lost my little shotgun rider (my dog) a week ago and I've been in a funk. He was in ever video I've made, usually out of the camera but sitting on the console. Amazing how we get attached to those little creatures

  • @edwardnelson3304
    @edwardnelson3304 5 лет назад +5

    That was great information Marion thank you so much. I've never opened mine up does the air flow smoothing piece sit locked into position without the foam in place or does it rattle around inside? Does the Banks Monitor read EGT's and will void the warranty, I've been interested in it? Thank you.

  • @danielfoster4320
    @danielfoster4320 3 года назад +2

    First off I just subscribed and thank you for the effort in making all these quality videos. I have a 2013 2500 Cummins. For what it’s worth I took the foam out and noticed the baffle has quite a bit of play inside the tube without the foam. This issue was enough to convince me to put the foam back in until I eventually get an aftermarket intake tube and just inspect every so often. This was the first time I ever looked at it and the foam was in good shape. Thanks again for all the great info.

    • @MarionBlair
      @MarionBlair  3 года назад +1

      Yes, agree. I pulled mine after a year to check it and I couldn't see any signs of wearing but I'm with you, if the foam is good leave it.

  • @anthonysiegel4685
    @anthonysiegel4685 4 года назад

    Hi Marion,whats the performance benefit of the Banks idrive.im thinking of upgrading my intake and exhaust too the Banks setup.
    I definitely am going too remove the foam.
    I had a Ford 6.0 with a complete banks kit and my truck ran great.Thanks for your great informative videos.

    • @MarionBlair
      @MarionBlair  4 года назад

      Hi, Haven't had any actual measured experience with the banks cold air intake. The K & N allows more airflow than stock filter but don't know the actual difference. I'm interested in getting rid of the baffle as I've heard of it coming apart and getting eaten by the turbo.

    • @anthonysiegel4685
      @anthonysiegel4685 4 года назад

      @@MarionBlair so you reinstalled the foam,

    • @MarionBlair
      @MarionBlair  4 года назад

      @@anthonysiegel4685 no I haven't

  • @williamtipton1392
    @williamtipton1392 4 года назад

    Sir, as always, your info is golden.......just a quick question, I took your info & re-installed the baffle w/o the foam, how ever I noticed a little bit of play after re-inserting the baffle into the intake tube, you can reach into the tube and rattle the baffle around a little bit. I was wondering if by chance you noticed this and if you did, your thoughts on the baffle being able to kind of rattle around in the intake tube a little bit would have any negative impacts down the road......
    Anyway, great series on baffle, thanks

    • @MarionBlair
      @MarionBlair  4 года назад

      Marion that is a concern of mine also. eventually going to find another solution. I've heard of the turbo completely eating the baffle and foam over many years, so need to either needs to be replaced with a new one or maybe an aftermarket. but eventually I'm going to have a address it. You can't just replace the foam unfortunately. I doubt there is much rattling, since the airflow will hold it pretty firm. I suspect the eventual deteriation is from getting brittle due to heat and age but that's speculation. Mines 5 yrs old and it looks like it could go another few years easily.

    • @williamtipton1392
      @williamtipton1392 4 года назад +1

      @@MarionBlair Thank you Sir for getting back, your videos have been a great help to me on how to do thinks to my truck, I look forward as always to the next one

    • @williamtipton1392
      @williamtipton1392 4 года назад +1

      Sir, I did a semi-exhaustive search for either a better "formed" fitting off the turbo, found nothing, also, there just isn't a whole lotta room down there to do much else, pretty tight down there. I looked at quite a few aftermarket C.A.I. kits. They all have that same identical type turn fitting at the bottom / turbo connection, I saw nothing different no matter the manufacturer, & it'll cost $300.00 & up just to basically duplicate what we already have. It seems to me after seeing your test & results, that putting back the baffle w/O the foam is just the way it is.....

    • @theplanechannel3857
      @theplanechannel3857 4 года назад

      @@williamtipton1392 Yes, that's pretty much my conclusion also. thanks

  • @richwilson4341
    @richwilson4341 5 лет назад +5

    yes please do an aftermarket intake tube, Airaid or K&N

  • @graham1188
    @graham1188 3 года назад

    Just checked my 2020, and it doesn't even have the foam inside the stock intake tubing, it does have the baffle, but no foam, so I'm guessing it's provides nothing but sound deafening

  • @nadieselgirl
    @nadieselgirl 5 лет назад +2

    Thank you so much for doing this comparison! I guess my baffle will be going back in or an aftermarket.

    • @MarionBlair
      @MarionBlair  5 лет назад +1

      Yea, the foam doesn't matter but the baffle will give a little more power. I really wanting to get an after market also, must to see it how it compares.

  • @cbrookb
    @cbrookb 4 года назад +1

    Really appreciate your videos. I like that you back everything with factual data. That's far superior to these other guys jabbering with no facts to support their statements. Thank you.

  • @KP-rz3gk
    @KP-rz3gk 5 лет назад +1

    Marion,
    Thanks for another good couple videos on this. Would you consider doing one on the idash? I have one but can’t figure out what I want to monitor on my 2018 3500. Thanks for all your time in this.

    • @MarionBlair
      @MarionBlair  5 лет назад

      Yes I was actually thinking about doing that thank you

  • @lynnburks7635
    @lynnburks7635 5 лет назад

    Are you going to change your transmission fluid yourself? If so when? Do you carry any spare engine parts with you when going on a camping trip? Thanks

    • @MarionBlair
      @MarionBlair  5 лет назад

      Lynn, Yes I'm going to change it myself. I'll make a video on it. Not sure when, however. Probably this year. I carry DEF, a set of fuel filter, a laser temp gun to check my tires, hubs etc, the little power prob in the video below, a bucket, full set of tools, a code reader, a chain, 5 gal. spare diesel if I'm head west, tire pressure gauge. 12 volt air pump, what else, that's the main things, I have a list for the different type of trips etc... I find it easier if I don't trust my memory since it's pretty bad. studio.ruclips.net/user/video8WqVsaNkJMc/edit?Fmy_videos

  • @lynnburks7635
    @lynnburks7635 5 лет назад +1

    RUclips is right. My wife is Lynn, I have no social accounts. Use hers when a comment is warranted.

    • @MarionBlair
      @MarionBlair  5 лет назад

      Well now I don't feel so stupid

  • @stevevennerbeck5250
    @stevevennerbeck5250 3 года назад

    Marion, have you ever found where to buy a replacement foam sleeve? Thanks!

    • @MarionBlair
      @MarionBlair  3 года назад

      No you've got to buy the entire assembly!

    • @stevevennerbeck5250
      @stevevennerbeck5250 3 года назад

      @@MarionBlair :-( that's a bummer. Thanks for your reply Marion!

  • @robertvillafane5308
    @robertvillafane5308 5 лет назад

    I’m with you, I don’t like that foam I’m afraid it may start braking apart and going into the turbo.

  • @TCB031
    @TCB031 5 лет назад +2

    I always enjoy your videos Marion. Will you be telling us more about how you like the new Banks gauge?

  • @JohnAnderson-km1fb
    @JohnAnderson-km1fb 5 лет назад +1

    Well done. Love your analytics.

  • @lynnburks7635
    @lynnburks7635 5 лет назад

    Thanks, this is Darryl not Lynn. I also have a ‘14 we pull a 5ver with. It is primarily a tow rig with 55K. I’m good with your list. I was thinking, due to mileage, more like spare drive belt, coolant hoses, water pump, etc? Keep it up, you have given me confidence to do more maintenance on this truck, thanks.

    • @MarionBlair
      @MarionBlair  5 лет назад

      Thanks, Sorry, Darryl, RUclips must have thrown a rod cause your message is cleaarly from Lynn Burks on my end, ha, strange. So Lynn if it comes to you disregard. Well, I have the old concentric water pump on the shelf in perfect shape but with out the vent. I guess I should throw it in the truck. And I probably should pick up a replacement Y for the radiator. I do have a gallon of concentrate I could bring. You are giving me some add one to my list, thanks. I'm head for Georgia in a couple of weeks so I'll be putting on some mileage. I'm behind you however in my 40K's.

  • @Bundys
    @Bundys 5 лет назад +1

    Nice spreadsheet and charts to visualize the data. Hope your future camping trips are great. Keep on making the videos I look forward to the new content and rewatch when I need an honest opinion or a good how to service my Cummins. Take care.

  • @brianjones2232
    @brianjones2232 3 года назад

    I have a 2009 6.7 , does it have this crapp ?

  • @bf826
    @bf826 5 лет назад +1

    Great video thank you for your detailed description! I like how you show the data. I cannot wait to hear your results from an aftermarket intake!

  • @bradmorris5409
    @bradmorris5409 4 года назад

    Marion, did you ever put an after market intake on? If to have you tested the difference in stock and aftermarket?

    • @MarionBlair
      @MarionBlair  4 года назад

      No still looking for one that I don't have to buy the whole air box

  • @henrydice6871
    @henrydice6871 5 лет назад +2

    Hi Marion,
    I’ve watched many videos that you have made, and I appreciate all the information that you have shared. I have a few questions that don’t actually relate to this video, but I was hoping you would be willing to answer. I’m thinking of purchasing a new 2019 ram 2500 Cummins, but I’m concerned about a few issues that I’ve read about consistently. I tried asking Cummins my questions, but they just referred me to Ram(fiat Chrysler) who in turn didn’t answer any questions and just referred me to the manual. My biggest concern is that I would be doing primarily local driving with the truck as it would be my daily driver, and my drive to work is only about 3 miles. Much of what I read has been very cautionary about people using diesels for local driving due to the fact that it doesn’t allow for enough passive regeneration of the dpf and therefore increases the likelihood of damage/clogging of the dpf. Also much is written about short drives with diesels not allowing them to get up to operating temperature and therefore decreasing longevity. I’m aware of the active regeneration that rams do to clean the dpf when they are not highway driven enough, and I watched your entire video about local driving with a ram and how it relates to the position of the egr. Do you think that local driving is as damaging as many people report? Are there any strategies that one can use to effectively reduce/eliminate the problems associated with local driving? Or is it just a matter of time before something goes wrong? Can you plug in a grid heater year round to get the engine up to operating quickly for short drives? Or is there some type of aftermarket heater that can be installed to serve that purpose? I also watched Your video about the exhaust brake. Can they exhaust break be used to help clean the dpf? Should it be used when local driving and are there benefits to using it while local driving? What about fuel treatments such as seafoam or those made by Amzoil, do you recommend their use? I don’t mind paying the extra money for a diesel, but I just don’t want to get into lots of expensive repairs with a new truck, which I’ve read can happen as diesel parts and mechanics are expensive. I’m very vigilant about my maintenance on vehicles, so I don’t mind the extra time there either. Any insight you could provide would be appreciated. Sorry for the lengthy comment.

    • @supporterofsanity
      @supporterofsanity 5 лет назад

      Maybe Marion will chime in but sounds like you need a Corolla. Just joking obviously but buying a diesel truck to drive 3 mile trip to work doesn't seem equitable. Diesels are slow to warm up so no way its getting up to temp in that short of a trip. You'd have to drive periodically for the sole purpose of regeneration. You will be paying a 9k premium over a gas engine and you are talking buying devices and products to protect a brand new engine? I don't put anything not recommended by Cummins in mine. Also, diesel is running 40 cents per gallon higher in my neck of the woods. Unless you really haul on the weekends get the Hemi and put the 9 grand you saved towards a higher trim package.

    • @henrydice6871
      @henrydice6871 5 лет назад +1

      Thank you. That is probably good advice. I currently have an 87 150 with an in-line 6 that still runs great and a 2001 F-150 that also runs well. I just need something with a crew cab to haul my family. I also have a construction trailer that I can’t haul fully loaded with my half ton. Of course the 6.4 hemi would handle that, but was just contemplating a diesel since I enjoy how they drive. But you are right, I probably don’t haul enough to justify it.

    • @jbrous3602
      @jbrous3602 5 лет назад +1

      If I were you, I'd find me a high speed loop to a Starbucks 10 miles down the road to satisfy the Cummins fix then haul ass back to work to satisfy your fix. You'll be happier before you begin working and even more happy when you get off for the weekend. Happiness costs big bucks, just change your oil every 3000 miles, oil filter every 6000 miles, and crankcase filter every 50000 miles. Watch your coolant bottle to make sure your egr cooler isn't cracked blowing white smoke or coolant out the exhaust pipe. Avoid long idles or acceleration when the engine is not up to temperature because the engine produces more diesel particulate matter (dpm) as when your engine is up to temperature will produce more nox. I can't wait to hear what Blair has to say about your question, i guess we all have to remember about the marine who rides a harley and drives a diesel.

    • @MarionBlair
      @MarionBlair  5 лет назад +1

      Henry, Sorry for the late post. I agree with Supperterofsanity and CEB's response, Here's my two cents. You are asking the wrong person for a logical answer, ha,, because, I say, complete your bucket list. Life is too short. Your construction trailer makes it logical. You have 5 years to worry about whether you want to keep it longer or not and the resale value on diesels are superb. (Especially a new 19, I'm jealous). Interest rates are great right now also. Run your exhaust brake 100% to keep the turbo exercised and speed up warm ups. Everyone should, towing or not. Take it for a 1 hr highway drive once in a while on the weekends, Change oil more often (about like a gas engine) and you can use dyno oil, not synthetic (for cost). Block heater in the winter, not worth it in the summer. Don't idle to warm up, give it about 30 secs and drive moderately. It'll warm up faster. The RAM active regen is excellent, it'll take care of itself. There's plenty of RAM's running around that's never had a hitch on it.

  • @mikeshotshot3778
    @mikeshotshot3778 4 года назад

    Thank you so much for info and your time!! New Cummins owner here. 2019 Ram 2500. Sorry to here about you losing your little buddy. Dreading the day I lose mine. He’s getting old. 9 now. Keep up the great vids and please let me know if I should do any mods to my 6.7. 👍✌️

    • @MarionBlair
      @MarionBlair  4 года назад +1

      Thanks, it was and still is painful. I miss him every day. Hard to believe how attached we get to them.

  • @AD-zy5gr
    @AD-zy5gr 5 лет назад +1

    Another great video Marion.
    Thank you and God bless.

  • @MrBrewner
    @MrBrewner 3 года назад

    The real test would be the truck under load.

  • @kreigcook6489
    @kreigcook6489 5 лет назад +4

    Great video! I love your videos. They are very informative. Thank you!

  • @SuperVorpalbunny
    @SuperVorpalbunny 4 года назад

    When doing this mod (foam removal) I noted a small hole in the lower airbox on the side toward the engine. Some say this is a drain hole, but it doesnt make sense. Can I cover the hole? Is the hole sicking unfiltered air into the turbo? I have a 2014 2500 Limited.

    • @MarionBlair
      @MarionBlair  4 года назад

      In the air box below the filter? That's all unfiltered. There should be no air leaks on the top side of the filter. Below, it doesn't matter.

    • @randallstane8944
      @randallstane8944 2 года назад

      I wonder if the foam has something to do with the ccv dumping a small amount of oil into the intake?

  • @mikestrucks
    @mikestrucks 5 лет назад +2

    As usual a nice interesting video sir...👍

  • @BlueElwood
    @BlueElwood 3 года назад

    Dude! Love the channel!

  • @IndianaFr0g
    @IndianaFr0g 5 лет назад +2

    Can you allow us access to your spreadsheet?

  • @denniswalker9738
    @denniswalker9738 5 лет назад +1

    Great info as always, thanks Marion. I’m looking forward to hearing how you like it running without the foam while towing. Actually how the Wife likes it. Thanks again!

  • @scottwillard9164
    @scottwillard9164 5 лет назад +1

    I have an Airaid Jr intake tube part#300-986 I can send to you to test

    • @MarionBlair
      @MarionBlair  5 лет назад

      Thanks very much for the offer. I'm not quiet ready for that but appreciate it.

  • @jbrous3602
    @jbrous3602 5 лет назад +1

    i pulled the foam out at 100k 2016 ram went from denver to dc 1600 miles and experienced extra torque while climbing hills and mountains. never dropped to a lower gear. w/o the foam seemed to be less of a restriction for air but gave me a slight decrease in mpg 20mpg. with the foam i got 21 mpg from denver-dc-lafayette-and back to denver.

    • @MarionBlair
      @MarionBlair  5 лет назад

      Yea, the test seemed to lean that way also if you noticed but it kind of defy logic, ha.

    • @jbrous3602
      @jbrous3602 5 лет назад +1

      @@MarionBlair once the increase in air flow passes by the Mass air flow sensor more fuel is sent to the cylinder delivering more power thus more torque might evolve. not much, but more. you do keep me thinking...

    • @MarionBlair
      @MarionBlair  5 лет назад

      @@jbrous3602 Thanks

  • @holybuba
    @holybuba 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for doing all this work. Its alot of good info

  • @BigRigRich
    @BigRigRich 5 лет назад +2

    I did the delete on my unit after it got out of warranty. World of difference. 15 % plus better fuel economy.

    • @MarionBlair
      @MarionBlair  5 лет назад

      did you have to tune the transmission also? What system did you use EF live, what tuner did you use.?

  • @SuperVorpalbunny
    @SuperVorpalbunny 5 лет назад

    Is there an after market duck? I have searched but to no avail as I though the same a Mr. Blair.

    • @MarionBlair
      @MarionBlair  5 лет назад

      The closest I've found is the K & M but you have to buy their filter which I don't want but it does fit in the OEM enclosure.

  • @boydarborist6902
    @boydarborist6902 5 лет назад

    Great Work!

  • @armymxere5
    @armymxere5 3 года назад

    Where are you from I’m In Lafayette

    • @MarionBlair
      @MarionBlair  3 года назад +1

      Lafayette also

    • @armymxere5
      @armymxere5 3 года назад

      @@MarionBlair hell yea! Great vids !! I’m about to delete mine this weekend I’m all stock

    • @MarionBlair
      @MarionBlair  3 года назад

      @@armymxere5 Thinking about it myself

    • @armymxere5
      @armymxere5 3 года назад

      @@MarionBlair I have a 15 with 73k I recently cleaned the egr and cooler omg!! It was packed I will take pics of dpf ect when I remove tomorrow.

    • @MarionBlair
      @MarionBlair  3 года назад

      @@armymxere5 Yea, the EGR is terrible for diesels.