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I think a lot of this has to do with people finding out about stuff that happened way before they were born for the first time on TikTok instead of in a history book
The education system can't allow criticism of the "religion of peace," that's Islamaphobia
@@isaacgriffin5690More likely, history classes don't talk about anything after 2000 because they aren't concerned with them and/or run out of time.
@@isaacgriffin5690 Strange that radical Islamic terrorism has a very strong history and correlation with western imperialism. Schools won't often teach that many Muslim countries used to be much more moderate and had organized leftist factions before the West started backing fundamentalist groups and pro-US dictators during the cold war period. Like how the US created the Taliban essentially, or how Israel allowed Hamas to grow powerful enough to politically overpower secular leftists.
@@Fringe31422au My highschool history class stopped at 9/11, but I also went to school a decade ago so who knows where they stop now
@@Mogswamp hey, I just watched you die in fWhip's hardcore run lol
It’s not just “young people”, JJ. There are a lot of middle aged people out there who believe everything they hear from non credible gurus. Including people in positions of power.
A lot of Tankies seem to be Boomers for some reason. Like the leader of Code Pink.
@@ashkitt7719I think that's just because they were Soviet Union supporters back when that actually still existed and ate up Soviet anti-west propaganda back in their time.
Yeah I would bet the median age of Qanon supporters to be in the 40s. I think JJ is probably just more exposed to the insane young people than the insane old people.
And I guess this is a similar phenomenon here. Ironically, the Tankies are more correct on this particular issue because they recognize that bin Laden used to be deemed an "Anti-Soviet Freedom Fighter" by Western bourgeois media prior to 9/11. Stopped clock I guess. @@krombopulos_michael
We all know Boomers are easily brainwashed, but the youngs are supposed to be better.
“The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.”
― Terry Pratchett
Keep an open mind. Just not so open that your brain falls out.
...or they allow their brain to completely fall tf out! 🤯
The door analogy is great. Reminds of the saying "If you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything"
How funny, I first heard a spin on that phrase by a Canadian band. In the intro track to their album
'The End Is Where We Begin' it goes "If you don't stand for something, you might fall for anything"
You know it's serious when JJ is sitting on a couch.
Couch JJ does NOT fuck around
And a lack of head bobbing
This feels like a deeper problem with all of society, not just young people. The lack of fundamental knowledge, the too-easy acceptance of extreme and radical thinking, the old and well as the young are succeptable to it
What happens when radical thinking comes from deep understanding and scrutiny towards how society operates? Most of the actual young communists/radicals I know are brilliant students, with a great drive for social change. I agree that much of Gen Z lacks a solid political consciousness, but those that ARE educated do seem to be principled in their radicalism.
@@vin2620except they don’t teach communism in school. It is picked up from social media.
Many times when I converse with people on political topics, they only seem know the main the main stream ideas about it. This is likely why we only ever see extreme ideas become common because people do not know an alternative way to express themselves.
@@vin2620This is very True! It’s unfortunate though, as many times I find people who truly know what they are saying are seen as a social Socrates and are often ignored.
The lack of fundamental knowledge is alarming. I can't even count all of the Holocaust deniers who "fight the narrative" I see throughout the internet who have a literal child's understanding of what the narrative even is. I don't know who to blame - I'd guess inept history teachers who have no further understanding of history than what is printed in their "babies first textbook" and who can't answer any questions about what they are teaching - but the amount of smug edgelords who state, as a slam-dunk argument, that two crematoriums could not burn 6 million bodies in 5 years as if that has any relation to the historical understanding of the Holocaust is astonishing.
I’m very grateful for J.J McCullough. I’m very happy there is still a sober headed voice of reason on the internet
He is a Zionist…don’t meet your heroes…
JJ is a status quo shill doe
The reason young people were shocked is because they were told that OBL just woke up one day and decided to attack Americans and that he didn't like their freedom, which was not true. They realized that OBL had his grievances and his actions were a blowback of US foreign policies.
@@markusklyver6277 I'd be open to evidence to support your assertions.
the man's a bleeding heart moderate who's made videos outwardly attacking anyone with a view that ins't centrist in a very pretencious "everyone is insane but me" way moderates do. it's kinda disgusting. centrism is destroying the world through it's lack of substantial action and yet people still pretend like it's a reasonable thing to be.
There needs to be correctly taught media literacy, and correct media literacy is more than just being contrarian to the establishment.
Well said.
Well said, and people need to know, while you should never follow the establishment 100% of the time on 100% of matters, sometimes the establishment is right about things. Then again, people like Joe Rogan have made a career out of saying "Mm, The Mainstream says you shouldn't try shooting yourself in the head, let's find someone who disagrees with that and see if they're right.". Joe Rogan, if you read this, you do not have to give a microphone to every Tom, Dick, and Harry that comes pounding on your door, it's your show, and you can say no if you want to.
Yes. Contrary to the view in this video, the more educated people are MORE susceptible and gullible than the general public. We saw this during COVID.
this video is zzonyst propaganda btw
@@ranro7371 The letter in question was a long-winded take on "the Jewish Question", deeply homophobic and apologia for a terrorist attack, and was not a good case for anti-zionism as it was actually anti-Semitic and steps away from basically pulling from The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. I'm not saying you can not criticize right deviations of Zionism without anti-Semitism, just as you can criticize the Islamicate without Islamophobia, but Bin Laden's letter was not that. They also weren't doing a critical reading which was the point of the video. Almost as if to say, "Bin Laden JQ'd and had a point."
Disappointed on the fact that this isn't just a clip of JJ pushing on an open door
Keep your eyes on YT shorts? 🤷🏼♂️😂
Well... he does
There was at least some door-action fan service in this video, don't be greedy.
Someone should make a 1h ytp of J.J. pushing on an open door. Then someone else should make a ytpmv of every song that was ever made from that ytp of J.J. pushing on an open door.
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As a younger person myself I find this is very true, the amount of people who will fight tooth and nail to defend horrible men is mental
Also the amount of young people who simply believe someone is horrible because simply because a lot of other people think so
What JJ as saying is that, you, as a young person, don't yet have the knowledge or tools to know whether a person is terrible or not.
It's called growing up without experience except It's called growing up as a social engineer with like genes. 😅
@@nabrzhunterwe're talking about Osama bin Laden here
As a young person I agree. I see people defending Ronald Reagan and George Bush all the time...
Agreed. I’m 19 and I see people my age blindly parroting whatever shit they see on the internet. I’m talking both people on the left and right. I’m left leaning but some of the stuff I hear people saying about just, anyone who isn’t part of the neo-liberal progressive canon of people we should be championing is really kinda distressing. It’s sad because we’re one of the first generations to generally have unlimited knowledge, and we have the resources to learn. It’s not that fucking hard. It’s just that a lot of people my age have adopted a sort of unwillingness to learn or hear from people who aren’t a member of their “””team”””.
Thank you, J.J.
It feels like you're the only sane person that I see in a while on the internet.
I'm nearly 70, and from what I've seen this has always been true. What aggravates things today is the ease with which individual fools can communicate with like minds and form insane culture.
Yeah if you are 70 you remember the Maoists in college campuses in the 1970s
Not true. When you were 20, there were available paths to a stable life, such as a Union job or a career with a company that wouldn't just fire you on a whim and move your job overseas. What is that path now?
@@parkmannate4154 yeah but morons and suckers are a constant in life yoi always have a few
@@parkmannate4154 Yes there is more disillusionment now but what the commenter is saying is that gullible and/or crazy people are not new. Back in the pre-Internet times, of course you had people who believed ludicrous things, but only a few in town and thus seemed fringe. Now all those people can get together online and scream and that’s why now it seems like everyone is crazy.
Yeah, kids have it rough. I have four adult children from their mid 20s to early 30s. My generation worried about getting killed in Vietnam. My brother went, and I knew several guys who died there. My dad enlisted at age 17 during WW2 and came home with a back full of shrapnel. So what? If you really think leading stressful lives is reason to buy into insanity, I feel sorry for you. @@parkmannate4154
I am a fan of this archaeology channel named Miniminuteman. In one of his old TikToks, he says “When curiosity and distrust meet, it breeds willful ignorance” which I thought was really insightful. I think the core of the shortcomings of political discussions happen when ignorance becomes willful. If the rocks you’re putting in front of your minds door are concrete blobs that LOOK like rocks, you’re going to be stubborn, dismissive, and arrogant, all the while believing you’re one of the more knowledgeable people in the room.
I like miniminuteman. 👍🏼
That dude has such a moral high horse, I can't stand him.
@@UrvekhDenoal a little preachy sometimes but tbh I was that way when I was a younger man so I guess I have time for it.
@@mrwhirly0358 The dude is such a huge white savior, and condescendingly talks about the different cultures and whatnot like its children playing at civilization building.
@@UrvekhDenoal I don’t agree that he condescendingly talks down about other cultures at all. I’m also a white guy though so I might have a blind spot to that. If you have any specific examples, fellow free to lmk. Not that you should feel obligated to do so.
Thank you J.J, for being AGAIN the voice of reason. I am quite enraged by that news, as an 11-year-old during 9/11 I cannot fathom how young people, let alone americans can even be duped for this "Terrorists were right" fairytale. And those are the ones who shout around "Educate yourself!", so why won't they??
A lack of introspection and critical thinking. The Internet has made it so you can choose your facts, especially when it comes to things that happened after the 2000s. It used to be that only academics and journalists wrote history since it was a very cumbersome task to get published. The nature of the system made it so that the best rose to the top and it was a boring thing to be interested in, so bad information filtered itself through the nerds who were interested enough to read through it.
Now everything is so easy. Good information is not as valuable as quick information. Greedy people with no concern for consequences in the face of profit have made it so that truth exists on a proportional scale. It doesn't matter if it's all true. It only matters if most of it is true, or at least it is plausible.
Edit: I want to be clear, there was 100% bad information before the Internet. I'm just saying the shear mass of highly visible, bad information now is the difference.
nobody is saying that terrorists were right, in the videos they still think that Osama Bin Laden was a horrible guy, their mistake is not lionizing Bin Laden (although a few idiots are doing that) but rather taking his reasons at face value and accepting them wholesale
No one is saying the terrorists were right. We are just beginning to realize that our leaders are terrorists as well. All human life is precious. It shouldn’t be radical to say that OBL is a terrorist for killing 3,000+ innocent people, Netanyahu is a terrorist for killing 10,000+ innocent people and Bush is a terrorist for killing 200,000+ innocent people.
I mean, theres a TON of problems with the response to 9/11 and also to do with the fact that 9/11 rly only happened bcuz of American efforts which enabled the terrorists to gain power and amass weapons; wpns that were prty much given to them by USA
Theres a lot of reasons to think that USA wasnt in the right as far as 9/11 goes; regardless of what anyones manifestos say
Far too many ppl all too often wanna think of things as black and white, good and evil; and they imagine entire groups of ppl in such binary absolutist ways. There is always gonna be a lot more nuance to every story than what the history books tell us; even before considerin how commonplace propaganda is
Its the whole tryin to hide the full story from the start with propaganda that has ppl agreein with them
Bcuz if USA went to such lengths to try to keep them from knowin the full story, even lyin to them in their history classes by not sharin all the relevant facts; it makes one much more likely to just believe that theyve been lyin about other stuff too... And thus fall down into conspiracist and extremist rabbit holes
Literally my oldest memory I have is the day of 9/11. I was just a little over four years old but I remember the terror my parents went through and how they solemnly huddled around the TV unable to look away for the rest of the day. It hurts and it’s sickening that Americans are falling for the twisted words of the mass murderer who scarred the United States forever.
Thank you JJ, for being such a clear and common-sense voice on stuff like this.
Great metaphor. I was an idiot when I was a young man. In fact, I still am. Also, props for the Madvilian and Neutral Milk Hotel albums in the background.
MR BEATTTTT!!!!! Yeah I hope to think I'm not an idiot (I'm 16 btw) but I definitely think there's a crisis of knowledge in my generation.
As someone who has actually read the Unabomber manifesto it is insanely concerning to see how many people idolise him, on both the left and right (seemingly not realising how incompatible his believes and actions are to their beliefs).
He is the chaotic third way
The Unabomber says a lot of things that are correct and makes some proper observations BUT he will then follow his true statements by making some absurd assertion of whatever he is talking about. For a very simple example, he believes the advancement of technology is destroying nature and people are causing this advancement. That is true, but then he also believes he has to murder people to both stop technology and spread his word. He just doesn’t have morals, emotional intelligence is very important and he simply does not have much at all. He seems to only sympathize with nature and animals out of spite for humanity rather than him valuing those things. He’s just psychologically sick and delusional.
The reason people idolize figures as demented as the Unabomber is because those types of figures have a tendency to be manipulative and intelligent. People will hear basic facts for the first time and come to the conclusion that the source must be reliable because of a few accurate observations made by the sick individual. People need to be better educated, but I’m not sure if that is ever going to be possible for at least half of the population.
I think he interesting insights that panned out, but yeah, this isn't someone who should be idolized.
Yeah people don’t realize that he was against wearing glasses, helping the sick and homosexuality
Your illustration is a really great one. I think it’s wisdom that allows us to discern which bricks are knowledge vs. cognitive biases. It’s not always easy to figure which is which, and like anything, I think practice helps. Being aware of what biases you have also helps. Young people many times don’t have that type of awareness or experience. I agree that the manifestos you mentioned seem pretty obvious, and I hope that’s a small minority. On other topics, it can be more difficult to figure out, even when you’ve been here longer.
Can safely say I was not immune to such susceptibility before, when I fell down the anti-SJW rabbit hole for a few years. Really, the only thing I would add to this vid's thoughts is that, while the youth are definitely most vulnerable to what you describe, as an inevitable side-effect of not having lived as long and usually experienced as much, it's also clear that anyone of any age is susceptible to these forms of manipulation, as an inevitable side-effect of poor education. In all honesty, I think that is an even more pressing issue than problematic youthful self-righteousness, which, to be frank, has always been a prominent thing among the youth, no matter the generation. Goodness knows, I definitely still have plenty of it myself. Social media has just amplified all of these negative things to a frightening public presence we can no longer ignore as easily as we used to be able to, and therefore, it influences our culture more significantly. But, like youthful self-righteousness of generations past, I am positive that the most extreme examples will mellow out with time, only for the youth of today to become horrified in turn by what their own kids will get into, and on and on it goes.
Do tell... what's the anti-SJW rabbit hole, and was it a bad thing for you?
@@bboyagua There are far more qualified folks out there to explain exactly what it is, and why it indeed was a bad thing for me, than I ever could, to be honest. Innuendo Studios is a personal fave among those who have dedicated time.
It’s the pro-“SJW” people
who started this in the first place by relying on leftist third-worldism to mobilize democrat voters. Its literally their fault
@@bboyaguanot hating yourself for being white or male
@@bboyagua It's fine to criticize SJWs when they go too far. But if you find yourself watching SJW cringe compilations over and over, constantly being fed by the algorithm, and digging deeper into the iceberg, you are at risk of being radicalized into the other direction.
JJ as a young person, thank you for having the balls to cover this trend.
you don't need balls to confess your hatred of terrorists
Found out today this entire story is bullshit. There isn't a ton of TikTokers suddenly praising Osama Bin Ladin's words. It was a BS attention grabbing headline. The irony considering JJ's message in the video about being easily fooled by BS.
@@PyroX792I’ve seen them
@@PyroX792
So what are all those people on TikTok that are talking about the letter?
@PyroX792 I also seen this come out. It's just a headline. No one is "following" Bin Laden. Just some people were reading it, but only how it relates to radicalized people.
Two things:
1. Tom Nichols, currently writing for The Atlantic, often laments the “death of expertise” and even wrote a book about it which I have not yet read. Sounds like something you’d vibe with.
2. As a younger millennial, who even borders on Gen Z depending on who you ask, I feel like I grew up in a world where the United States was the only sheriff in town. And because of this, the default position of the intelligentsia was to (rightly) criticize American hegemony as a counter to the mainstream narrative of American exceptionalism. Many of my more curious friends and I in turn developed a very anti-American sentiment because we were relatively more aware of the negative influence of the United States on the rest of the world. However, in recent years, with the rise of China and again Russia on the world stage, things are not quite so simple and we are almost in a new Cold War. I think a lot of younger millennials and newly socially active Gen Z are still operating from this worldview where the United States runs everything and anyone who is not part of the United States is the righteous David fighting Goliath. The dominant narrative amongst leftists is that America is bad and anything not American is good as they’ve become so used to criticizing America as the only authoritative voice on the world stage. Thus, they’re vulnerable to persuasion from lunatics who flew planes into buildings.
Edit: A word
Moreso, bin Laden's words aren't those of a lunatic who flew planes into buildings, but rather a radical (and probably lunatic) who inspired/ordered others to fly planes into buildings. Demagogues and charlatans alike inspire others to take extreme measures in the absence of reason, and social media platforms them like nothing else ever could. Critical thinking was never intended to be part of the American public education system, but it seems to me its just been thrown in the trash over the past twenty years. Not Gen Z's fault. Gen X and older Millenials made and continue making the decision to let tablets and phones raise and educate their children.
Im an older (well, middle range) millennial and i still think USA needs to stop playin world police
@@SylviaRustyFaeso you want China and Russia to police us?
@@SylviaRustyFae I def think the US took it too far in the past, like getting involved in Iran, where they were more neutral to pro US, but after the coup, ruined it. but I do think there is def a role for the US on the world stage. cause otherwise, countries like china, russia, iran, etc will step up for their regions.
@@NinjaMastorBut, why should we citizen of the US sphere of influence be forced to support the lesser of 2 evils? Why can’t we put pressures on our societies to force our governments to live up to their morality? Not many are arguing that China and Russia are better than the US and that we would want to move there. Many of us want our countries to live up to their promise of being bastions of hope for a better world instead of faulty, oligopolistic bureaucracies with their primary focus being self-gratifying instead of universally generative.
Thanks for making this video
Well said! When I was a teen, it was very popular to critically analyze movies and visual media in school and academic settings, there were even classes and seminars dedicated to honing the skill of critical consumption. I think that these kind of classes need to return and to specifically focus on social media. Just because our generation was told not to believe everything you see online doesn't mean the next generation knows that instinctively, we need to do better and teach them, especially in the era of image generating and deep fakes.
J.J. needs a series called "Yelling at Zoomers."
Isn’t he also a zoomer? Or a younger millennial.
@@Taalul he is an older millennial. some say the best kind, not bias
@@Taalul he's 39. That makes him an old millennial.
@@Taalulhe’s pretty old, you just can’t tell because he’s gay.
He doesn’t have to deal with these hoes
@@jordanneal576 damn he’s 39? Looks 27
Oh no, he didn't do an edited thumbnail
I'm a former young person and present-day middle-aged person. When I was young, I was easily persuaded by slick propaganda, and it frustrated my parents to no end. How many times did I hear my mother say, "Use the brains God gave you and think!"
Now, I am a much more discerning person who is able to spot propaganda more readily, and I am often the one countering the misinformation I hear from my peers. I think that far from a "crisis of wisdom", what we're seeing is kids being kids and they'll grow out of it.
JJ, the way I describe what it felt growing up and going to school in gen Z was that we were very much given a list of things and ideas we are supposed to critique, but not tools to critique things and ideas. Thus we can’t really judge our list, prevent it from perversion, or make new ones. Hope this perspective helps
I really appreciate you making this video as well as the America self hate video. I feel like I stumble upon stuff like this quite frequently but I’ve had trouble sort of finding the words for my disliking of it and you JJ do a very beautiful job of it thank you for this video and all your other videos. You’re a gem and a legend
America needs to ban Tik Tom, just as India did. It’s a blatant Chinese disinformation app used to sow discontent and division in the West. The algorithm is set to promote radicalism.
he pushes as much propaganda as the accused propagandists do, only for support of the general status quo and neoliberal ideology (global free trade, wealth accumulation, etc). westerners have been immersed in that ideology their entire lives, most of whom don’t recognize it, and you are enjoying JJ’s reactionary content because it feeds into that american sense of comfort towards the status quo. when US global hegemony crumbles within the next century or so, these pundits will be old and crying
Banger by JJ. I think your voice is important because prior to you sharing your thoughts on this phenomenon, I wasn't even aware. As someone who is 21, I see people around my general age range ( or even older ) getting absorbed into misinformation to a scale that is quite scary. This is our future. And if a solid amount of people subscribe to those aforementioned philosophies, what threat does this pose to security of all peoples in the future of society?
That's what I fear the most, if enough people subscribe to these anti-liberal ideologies, then I fear America will collapse into either a Communist or Neo-Nazi dictatorship with all these wackos going to the far left or far right. I fear the days of our classical liberal democracy our numbered.
scared because we’re not afraid of destroying the status quo and starting anew. you’re just like the reactionaries in 1968
We didn't learn about 9/11 in history class, every teacher just assumed we were old enough to remember it (we are not). In the absence of education, propaganda is ripe for consumption
As much as I’m not an FDR fan, he had some great points. The one that hits the hardest here, being that, men with no food or job, always tend to lean towards extremism. That’s not his exact quote, but it gets his point across. I am a young person, and yes I play Hoi4, extremism is like a drug. Once you start learning the deeper you get and the more you listen to them. You almost need to learn about all the extremes to learn why they’re called extremes. I hope the world can get better soon, and stay safe everyone.
JJ's best videos is when he's brutally honest
hope they stay rare tho (=
As a history major, seeing the amount of social apathy towards the institutions on which our society has been built upon is what despots and dictators dream of. This apathy is so deep rooted in the youngest generation to the point that most of us don’t view the current social problems as something that can be reformed or even reversed but something that requires complete destruction of those institutions and building of copycats which allow for apathy to go unchecked and responsibilities to be ignored.
Absolutely beautiful and insightful video. As always, thank you JJ
Loved the In the Aeroplane Over the Sea and Madvillainy vinyls in the background. Great records! Great video!
I didn't know about this particular incident , but it relates to something I saw this morning about how there's a large percentage (43%) of TikTok users who say they get the news from there. That's concerning, too.
Thanks, J.J.
I mean the news media itself is pretty interesting but getting most of it from tick tock that's above and beyond the call. Yes that is extremely concerning. Don Henley from the eagles had a very down-to-earth take on the whole thing and that was all the way back in the '80s.
TikToks are a terrible format to consum news. It is like getting your news just from the headlines, and nothing more.
As a teacher in America, they are becoming more open minded in all ways, so we mainly see it as a positive, but it does also teach them to question things, including the status quo. I believe this idea is getting romanticized, and thus they are seeking out things like this to try to be "above" or "different from previous generations, and even their peers.
I agree with what you are saying but also a lot of the young people just want to be edge lords and contrarians to the status que which is why being a Communist or a Fascist is seen as woke and cool and “based” by a lot of the young people.
The problem is that being too open-minded is honestly worse than being entirely closed-minded. There are some things, like the ravings of a mass murderer, about which we should be aggressively closed-minded. This is the sort of thing (when to be open-minded and when to be closed-minded) that used to be passed on to younger generations through various means, but younger people today have become resistant to that input.
@@quinnjohnson9750 every generation has its radicals and contrarians. The scary thing is that social media incentivizes mass amounts of people to go deeper in their extremist beliefs than take time to reflect and grow out of it in privacy. These dangerous ideas used to be niche things you had to seek out but now the algorithms are feeding it to kids without less oppositional content and adult figures to guide them through why it’s wrong.
@@quinnjohnson9750 I hate how my generation flocks to these extreme, extreme ideologies without at all understanding the historical significance of them. Learning more about history is the solution, and sadly we aren't doing that particularly well.
@@dazedneptune it's all thanks to these big corporations seeking to maximize profits over everything else. The people working for these companies are concerned about these issues, but are often overruled by upper management who care more about profit margins. Online discourse I've seen on politics and issues on corporate social media like Twitter or now Threads (which is becoming the new Twitter in regards of bad takes) is far more charged and less productive than on community-owned federated social networks like Mastodon, where there's more civility and room for nuance.
Have to admit (and I'm not trying to sound nosralgic) when I was a child we had the newspaper delivered to our home. Dad would read interesting stuff that I didn't totally understand at the time out loud. As I got older this led to some pretty interesting discussions. Now with everyone in the household having their own electronic device and doing their own thing, I wonder if these kinds of conversations still happen, where a young person learns to argue and think with an older wiser more experienced adult? (Doesn't have to be a parent just because it was in my case). I feel lucky to have had such an upbringing.
Very good metaphor you used. I also feel a big reason for that phenomenon is that it's an easy way to feel special and enlightened or edgy. Also in times of unrest people flock to more extreme ideologies
We know it’s real when it’s not an edited thumbnail.
I honestly believe that if Mein Kampf had never been released and leaked now, a large portion of the internet would eat it up.
Yeah, western media not openly talking about Bin Ladin's claimed motivations and just saying "he is against your freedom" is partly to blame for this.
If you totally repress the things your enemies say then those things will only come out later in ways that you can't control them.
Dude it's like you've never heard of the alt right
@@jonny5alive123 im way older than the average tik tok user but i feel like ive known since 9/11/01 some of Bin Ladens motivations...i mean this letter itself was published in like 20 years in western media. maybe since this very much history now something has changed but this isnt new info
@@nothingisawesome it's not new info, but it isn't the thing that has been parroted in the media for the last 20 years or what was taught in most schools.
I tried reading it once just out of curiosity and only got through a few pages. It didn't cause me to embrace fascism, it just made me go "WTF am I reading? This is a pile of hot garbage by some idiot who can't write."
Hey J.J I’ve been watching your videos for a while and appreciate you using your knowledge and life experiences to explain things in Canada and trending topics in a down to earth way keep it up your doing great!
I like that door analogy. So instead of calling someone “closed minded”, some of them have too many rocks against their door
Another commenter, @mrwhirly0358, suggested that in this analogy, "close minded" people are people with concrete slabs in front of their doors. Faux rocks that the person believes or insists are true rocks, if you will. And those concrete slabs, because they are fake rocks, are immovable. I think this is a great expansion on the original analogy.
a close minded person would be someone that would tape or seal their door shut in this analogy.
people have no beliefs anymore. IN Saudi Arabia a woman that is gRaped has the choice to go to jail for adultery or marry her assaulter. if we get Sharia law someday we'll get this law too. Why do feminists side with the left? They have no rocks against their door stopping any idea. They believe every idea is equal and ultimately cancel each other out.
Without a system of truth they are allowing an ideology that considers women 1/2 the worth of a man legally.
Christianity on the other hand says the wife owns the husband. The husband owns the wife too. Men and women are equal under God, the bible says.
Isn't it weird that feminists hate Christianity but love Islam?
I'll be honest: I clicked on this thinking your house had been burglarized. But this is important too.
haha me too!
I went through a phase of reading extremists' manifestos to identify the errors in their thinking. I was interested in what makes a crazy worldview.
Desperation.
@@kingofcards9516 - I don't think so. They are desperate, yes, but usually they're desperate to survive an imaginary threat (or a severely misunderstood threat that would be far less threatening if properly understood). They seem to create their own desperation.
@@BradyPostma perhaps, It is quite easy to blame someone or something else rather than accept personal responsibility.
@@BradyPostma Good reply! :0
They're clearly very wrong about some things, but some of them identify problems that are less obvious to you or I. I think there's value in understanding that perspective, no matter what they've done
JJ, such a valuable video. I love that metaphor.
One thing I will say is that it's not just young people. There are a lot of older generation folks that are also buying into wild, dangerous propaganda because they don't have the foundational understanding of the world to see through the holes.
We can't forget about kids wanting to be edgy for edginess sake.
"How can I be agaisnt the grain more than anyone else? What's the most offensive thing I can do? How about agree with the words of evil men! That'll show my paren- I mean society I'm nothing like them."
JJ, I’m very glad you’re talking about this. I see casual extremism among my peers across social media, especially TikTok. Part of this is is the nature of youth to be anti-establishment and rebellious, but I think social media can really fill kids’ minds, with some seriously awful ideas. I’d like to thank you for producing insightful and thoughtful content for all these years which have made me a more knowledgeable person. I’ve watched you basically all of high school and into college, I think there’s room for optimism in this age of social media partly because of content creators like you and others.
A middle aged individual feels cynical about the youth of today, such a thing has never happened before in history!
I’m glad you spoke up about this
I was 1 1/2 years old when 9/11 happened. I obviously know what happened and why it is both terrible and significant but I know that it has more impact and meaning to people older than me who would have experienced it more vicerally. For people younger than myself, it's not just lack of knowledge about the event but they lack a certain level of emotional attachment to this event because to them it's just something that happened in the past. It's a historical event.
A lot of people compare 9/11 to Pearl Harbor and I think this is an accurate comparison because of the way the event is treated in the context of history. Young people today view 9/11 the same way that we view Pearl Harbor, a historical event that has not impacted your life when you were old enough to understand the world around you. I imagine a kid or an adult in 1945-50 would still have that tragic event fresh in their memory whereas someone born even during the war would not have the same emotional context for that event.
This is true. JJ remembers 9/11, our generation only remembers the two wars and mass murder of Iraqis and Afghans that came after.
I was 33 when it happened. So yes, it was traumatic and we were all just stunned and speechless. It was different from Pearl Harbor because after 9/11 we knew we had to do something but weren’t really sure what. Pearl Harbor was crystal clear what was next. The young folks now talking about 9/11 it would be great if we or I could explain it because I don’t think the sources that have done so have been good.
Has nothing to do with young people. Even middle age people like myself say the U.S. had to expect 9/11 to happen. I'm not saying we deserved it, I'm saying if you play with fire, expect to get burned. Try for once, just once I ask people, to look at the issue from their perspective. That's all it takes. The simple matter is we stationed troops on what they consider holy land in 1990. That's what started the ball rolling. And for the record, I'm neither far right or far left, I'm a moderate who has an open mind about things. But I am slightly conservative in that I believe we should be isolationist. It's when we poke our nose where it doesn't belong that these things happen.
I was 7 when 9/11 happened, so I was a bit young to grasp the weight of it at the time.
However, the following summer, I was staying at a bed and breakfast. The other family there was from New York, and went to school near the twin towers. My sister and I spoke to them at length about their experiences with 9/11, and it's both a very distinct memory and a powerful thing to reflect on.
I don't think you had to live through an event to internalize it on a personal level. I'm Jewish and the Holocaust happened two generations ago from me. But the Jewish people take it very seriously to teach, to tell about, to study, and to learn the lessons from the Holocaust. We have the phrase "Never Again" for a reason. We know how to spot antisemitism from afar and do what it takes to prevent it from hurting us (as much as we can within reason). You would think that one of the worst events in American history would leave the same kind of scar on the American people, but I guess it faded away. Never Forget, eh?
You hit the nail on the head. I think what's worse than the fact that they're falling for these things is how ignorant they are of the things or people they're learning about. For example, the people learning about Bin Laden don't know about his past, the family he comes from, or even what he really believed; they've picked up a scrap of information from him and let their own presumptions or confidently incorrect TikToks make them think that he shared some common ground with them. I'm not really sure what kind of effect this can have in the long run, but from a purely intellectual level, it's extremely disheartening to see a large chunk of my own generation advocate for an Arab nationalist from an aristocratic family who used his wives as basically concubines and human shields, in the same breath as they support "anti-racism" and "feminism". You see this kind of behavior across the entire range of the political spectrum-all these people who accuse you of not being able to critically think while they exclusively take in blatantly incorrect information and idolize psychopaths who would have wanted them dead-and moreover, once these people start getting into this mindset, they become almost completely dismissive of anything that doesn't affirm their now-deluded worldview. It's a grim sight to behold, especially firsthand.
I wish I could actually see what these tiktoks are saying, JJ and all these comments seem extremely vague in what the actual claims being made.
as a young person, young people don't believe this
maybe not the ones immediately around you, but what JJ talks about in this video is very much a real thing. believe it or not, there are a lot of young people in the world.
@@IGNEOUSROCKK he's talking about this like it's a full blown crisis of education, as if previous generations weren't just as if not more radical.
J.J. is actually perpetuating misinformation here. in this specific instance, these tiktoks only went semi-viral (the hashtag got i believe tens of millions of views, which still a relatively low number on tiktok) after news articles ridiculing the tiktoks went viral.
i'm not even talking about the ones immediately around me, I'm talking about every single young person (except 2) I've met not online. they're all moderate (liberal to conservative) on political, social, and economic issues. mostly, they're all apolitical and living their own lives.
what we're facing here isn't lack of knowledge in the youth, this is just the same old story of the previous generation complaining about the new.
@@lemonboiyoutube I think you've missed his point. It's the fact that manifestos such as Bin Laden's catch any positive attention at all, much less the scale it happened is a major issue. Obviously it wasn't going front page on everyone's feed with billions of views levels of viral, but the amount of attention it still garnered is worrying.
As for your own personal experience in meeting people, obviously I'm not going to tell you that your experience is wrong, and I would agree that most people in the age range of let's say 11-18 are generally apolitical or just don't care. Whether that's because they genuinely don't care or actually don't know enough to form a coherent opinion is a different story. While vast majority of people I've met my age (Junior in HS this year) are like this as well, I have actually met a few people who take interest in this kind of thing. I might just hang around too many retards, but I think the fact I've met more than one in real life is worth something.
I'm no doomer and I do think there is a bit of an epidemic of people saying "this new generation sucks" over and over, but there is most certainly some truth to it. To say that the upcoming generation alpha and younger gen Zs are without issues and in the same situation as older generations is a naïve and objectively incorrect take, and, by the looks of it, will only continue to be true for the next generation at least.
It was a phrase I heard a few years ago but I feel it's appropriate
"It's sad that people want to be a Patrick Bateman, rather than strive and fight to be a Rocky Balboa"
"There is much to be learned. There is much to be unlearned. There is much to be reconsidered and changed. There is a lot of work to do at the level of your mind. It is full of memory and grievances and persuasions that weaken you and that trouble you, even haunt you.
That is why people cannot sit still for five minutes-running all the time, chasing after everything and anything, being stimulated every moment so they will not feel their true condition. They will not come to their deeper senses.
You cannot go into the future with a mind like that, or you will not survive. You will not succeed. You will not be safe. You will not know what to do, and you will follow others who do not know what to do. You will be terrified, frustrated and angry, turning against others. It is a prescription for disaster at a level never seen here before. That is why this Calling is so urgent, you see. That is why God has given a New Message for humanity at this critical turning point."
*The Greater Intelligence, The New Message from God*
Part of me wants to step back and give the kids time. I thought I could answer all the world's problems at 16, and now I'm pushing 40 and realize how little I know *now* never mind back then. I know we're in an age where polarization feels like the norm, but day to day most folks really fall in the middle somewhere. I have to hope that the young adults of today will eventually find the middle ground as well.
Bro same, at 18 I thought I was so woke and shit and thought I could save the world and now nearing 30 I can say that I know nothing and that moderation is always the key. When we are young we are fed the idea that "we are the future" and thus it creates a messiah complex and the need to try and save the world. I feel if we dropped this whole "you are special/you can change the future/you are the future" bull shit and tell the kids to stay in line and obey authority/elders then we wouldn't have all these issues we are dealing with today.
@@quinnjohnson9750because raising generations of people who were taught to obey authority went so well before…
This is why I always say "knowledge rocks!"
I remember reading this letter back in 2004 because I was a curious teenager. I found it very interesting because I had always wondered why the attackers did what they did in Sept. 2001. Interesting is very different from Convincing... and I was not ultimately convinced. These guys were evil and that was pretty obvious.
IN Saudi Arabia a woman that is gRaped has the choice to go to jail for adultery or marry her assaulter. if we get Sharia law someday we'll get this law too. Why do feminists side with the left? Do you side with sharia law? Osama basically said he was mad that the word isn't under sharia law.
This is a mainstream islamic sentiment. They even have a word for the institution of it.
They are allowed to do things that most people outside of their religion would think is sinful.
They are also allowed sex slaves. It's not a sin for them.
So you think these guys were just evil?
there was no ideological reason?
maybe you ytjink all religions are the same.
Under Christianity men and women are equal under God.
Christianity can't create a theocracy because jesus was against hem. That's why they didn't want people reading he bible long ago.
CXhsrianity always creates liberal democracies because they aren't allowed to create theocracies anymore because people can read the bible nowadays.
Islam promotes theocracies. That tis their ideological aim.
You think they were just evil though.
Weird how you can ignore the clear philosophy that ... doesn't convince you!?
They are allowed to and even get to go to paradise. Heaven to them is an eternal erection and there are women they can....
Christians believe we don't have sex in the next life.
Leftists maybe choose Islam because of all the sex? They seem to be sexually obsessed. Apparently they actually do it less though... weird contradiction.
Totally different religions in countless other ways.
they are almost the opposite.
But you think those people... and all the other people committing terrorrrrrrist acts aren't at all influenced by any philosophy!
Canadians are so used to not being allowed to think.
What about he 1400 people dead from Israel?
It says in Palestine's constitution that they will killll all the Jewish people.
If that happens.. will it just be because of evil people... or is there an actual philosophy leading them.
So fantastic, JJ. Concern I have had for ages when it comes to populist movements that are bereft of history or sound theory. Wish you had talked longer though. You can speak about all society in this way especially in light of what is going on. Frightening that people jump on whatever bandwagon is popular; more frightening when it concerns evil.
As a moderate conservative I have come to hate Trump and the populist movement that has overtaken the GOP. Of course I use to be a Trumpoid and love Trump but I grew out of him and had a far left phase before I snapped back into reality and consider myself a pre-Trump moderate Conservative who wants a fiscal conservative policy, low taxes, free trade and a continued support for the post-WW2 alliances we have in NATO, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, and Israel. On social issues I say I am Libertarian and care less what LGBTQ people do. People will support what ever Caesar like ruler comes into power as long as they promise to give all the goodies to their buddies. Also the lack of moderation and compromise in politics is another issues that annoys me, the lack of cooperation and compromise is killing our nation as well as the radicalism as well.
@@quinnjohnson9750 As a lefty I have no love for the leftist flavor of populism either.
I’m in high school and I genuinely feel that some kids (not all, obviously, but a good portion) have been failed by the education system and by their peers and role model. Seeing things like glorifying Hamas or following Andrew Tate is really scary.
this video made me feel sane again thank you
Great albums you got hanging there
JJ calling kids airheads in the nicest kind of way 😂
I like JJ, but he is lacking in imagination. He's like that dude who insist keeping a dying tree up, despite its proximity to the house, bc think about the twentieth order consequences.
@@nathanandsugar5252he’s spitting facts though
100% this relates to your other video about the importance of learning facts and not just "critical thinking skills."
Amen, I've heard too many people bable about the vague idea of ""critical thinking"".
Yup and it’s basically impossible to learn great “critical thinking skills” without having a solid base foundation of facts, and/or have the facts in an easily accessible format, that you can easily navigate to find the relevant facts…
You need those basic facts memorized, and also have the more complex facts/information at the ready, and very easily accessible when need. We all need that base knowledge on many different and interrelated topics to even attempt to form robust and accurate “critical thinking skills”….
Absolutely. So many of these kids are like "think for yourself! Don't obey the mainstream media narrative!" and they don't even know what the "mainstream media narrative" is in the first place. They just know they want to be against it.
It's a phenomenon that I've come to call "intellectual hipsterism." It is of course fine to be skeptical of any and all ideas/narratives/historical accounts. But when you don't actually exercise critical thinking and your knee jerk reaction is to just go with whatever sounds the most extreme or "divergent" because "you really get it" then you're not being skeptical you're just following another rote mode of thinking.
It's also quite dangerous because this type of reaction/interpretation of the world lines up quite well with young people's almost reflexive want to to shock others - which can be a good thing e.g. artistically - and certainly innate need to feel different. @@JJMcCullough
this video make it sound like evry young people is oblivious and can't tell what is propaganda and what is not
Thank God there are still people like you out there, J.J. I thought I was loosing my goddamned mind. As an Israeli person living abroad this has been an incredibly difficult time and its always nice to see some people at least haven't drunk the kool aid.
I don’t believe JJ took a stance on the conflict in support of Israel or Palestine
1. he didnt say anything about israel or palestine. 2. you are not native to the middle east. Your last name is sanders. 3. the IDF literally just kills children and friendly fires other israelis including the hostages for fun. 4. You are extremely brainwashed by american propaganda to colonize the middle east and engage in genocide using your religion as a shield whenever someone tells you what you are doing is wrong. Maybe if you thought critically you wouldn't be claiming to be native to a made up country.
"Merely having an open mind is nothing. The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid."
- GK Chesterton
TikTok was a mistake.
And so was vertical video.
Not a mistake but a well calculted agent of chaos.
I was starting my first day of kindergarten on 9/11. Even at that young age, I could feel the sadness and fear my family and everyone around was experiencing. I've learned a lot more about it as an adult, and it is a tragedy so significant that I can't fully wrap my mind around it even now.
“It pays to keep an open mind, but not so open your brains fall out.”
― Carl Sagan
I think you raise a really great point.
I've always watched a lot of documentaries or otherwise vaguely edutainment based things, because I simply like learning.
And when I was younger just about any op ed or subjective piece would end up with me walking away from it having my opinion changed in some way shape or form.
But as I've gotten older that simply isn't the case anymore. I'll watch things and almost immediately go "ok this is just propaganda" or "that is factually incorrect" because I have accumulated enough knowledge to do that for a number of topics (but by no means all).
And the thing is JJ, I don't really think young people are getting dumber. You have gotten smarter and you are now realizing just how much people are doing that. Because I'm only 29 so I WAS raised on all this social media that created echo chambers.
What if I told you that all documentaries have a bias to them?
@@Jamesaepp I would tell you the sky is blue.
As a Gen Z'er without TikTok, it seems that I have luckily evaded this trend. But even if I did see those videos, I would not fall for any of it because I'm subscribed to wisdom itself, JJ McCullough!
Same
I've never stepped foot on tiktok in my life
@@currypenguin I once was on that damn app, and I have vowed to never to it again
This is so spot on.
It wasn't really going viral, all the videos had combined about a million views. Only once a grifter, Yashir Ali, made a tweet claiming it had went viral did it actually go viral.
Ignorance is a major factor in this, but another is insecurity. What I mean is that I and many others my age (22) or younger were brought up severely lacking in anything comparable to role models or even group values to look up to. We never felt any sense of pride or even gratitude for the society we lived in. Everything was just about how bad everything was. There was no set of values or life goals given to us beyond a hollow "Be yourself" or "Don't be mean". So when kids see these horrible, evil, insane but passionate views expressed online, it fills a gap that they've had for so long. They want SOMETHING to believe in, and since their lived life doesn't provide that, the fringe corners of the internet do instead.
Yes, its this and also the issue of the youth not being taught to value or appreciate our classical liberal democracy and even being taught by those on the far right and far left to hat our democracy and that Nazism or Communism is better than Democracy. We also failed in installing civic virtue and into our students to value our Liberal Democracy or Constitutional values we hold as a nation
i think that another issue is that insight has 3 components:
1 identification of a problem
2 analysis of the problem
3 solution to the problem
people like bin laden and the unibomber completely failed steps 2 and 3; they’re analysis bad, their solutions non sequiters. But step 1 is done decently well by both-people reading about binladen’s motivation will find out a lot about US foreign policy that they didn’t learn in school-so people that start reading sort of end up “along for the ride” by the time they get to steps 2 and 3, and thus become less skeptical of what they’re reading.
"Things that didn't get any real traction but some media sources thought it would make a some good klickbait and simply lies about how widespread it is"
Very well put.
It’s a mixture of lack of wisdom and genuine hate for the world that older generations have built around us that easily sways those my age towards extremist destructive ideologies, in my opinion
Nah kids just spend too much time doing stupid things online because it’s easy and gives them quick dopamine
@@FlymanMSBut why this very specific stupid thing?
I know throughout my schooling years, which only ended in June, critical thinking and interrogating sources for bias and such was not really taught properly, and this, I reckon, has had pretty drastic consequences for us young people. I’ll admit, I’m not the best at critical thinking and such, albeit getting better. Even through studying subjects which should have given me these skills, such as history and politics, these things weren’t really taught as more than mark-achieving exercises in the final exams.
A bit scary, as you said, in a time when misinformation is so widespread. I also sort of worry about what’ll happen when people my age become the main voting blocks, media consumers, etc, and how malicious actors could use this lack of critical thinking for their own gain. I can see what you mean about optimism here being pretty hard to be convinced by.
Btw, nice album picks for the wall :)
Our country has engineered people to be stupid.
there's nothing wrong with biased writing as long as the reader understands it to be biased
Great video. Thank you so much for this.
This is an age old commentary that will be had until the end of time.
"keep an open mind but don't keep it so open your brain falls out"
Hey JJ, I really appreciate the couple of videos you've done like this. It's great to hear someone offer advice to young people from a genuine place of concern.
Thank you for this.
You've said this before. It's worth repeating.
I was something like this when I was 15 years old. Thankfully, I had good role models who patiently guided me and allowed me to work these things out for myself. I know other kids aren't as lucky.
loving the mf doom and neutral milk hotel album covers JJ
J.J. thank you so much for this video. ❤
What a great metaphor! Knowledge as rocks defending your mind. I love it!
Thank you JJ. I often ask young people I encounter whether they received any instruction in school about critical thinking and distinguishing truth from falsehoods. Their reply is almost always “none”. Schools and apparently many parents are failing miserably.
It should be the responsibility of the humanities to teach critical thinking skills- analyzing literature and historical events, writing persuasive and argumentative essays, and so on. Perhaps the lack of critical thinking skills in our younger generations is due to the general trend of devaluing, undercutting, and defunding our humanities departments and teachers. Just a thought.
my school taught us a lot of critical thinking excercises, but it was also a school in a rich town in massachusetts which is considered to be one of the best states in the US in regards to the education system. We were taught how to identify and pick apart arguments as well as formulate our own. Of course it wasn't perfect, no curriculum is 100% free of misinformation or bias, but it did provide a solid foundation. I notice that people from other parts of the country definitely don't always get that in their education, which is a shame because it ought to be the norm IMO. The thing that really shocks me is the pure knowledge gap especially surrounding history in a lot of american's education. I had a friend from washington state when i was a teenager who had such gaps in his knowledge that he straight up thought that Auschwitz was a "jewish church". Not entirely the schools fault there, dude had a rough home life, but more definitely could have been done to educate him on basic historical facts like that & to support him so that he could have met his full potential despite having such a messed up life outside school. Instead he wound up doing meth and being arrested for DV before he was even 20 years old. It makes me sad bc he could be a really insightful and compassionate person, but he never got the help he needed and things just spiraled. I hope he's doing ok now & not hurting himself or anyone else. I think we have an epidemic of neglect toward children in this country that contributes a lot to problems like these, just imagining who he couldve been if he had a healthy stable home life & basic social supports breaks my heart a bit.
@@TheRach995a typical self righteous entitled masshole here
I too noticed this weird pipeline on a friend where just, a couple of "sigma, gigachad" edits of a world leader was enough for them too start preaching their actions.
They prob don’t realise that “sigma male” meme is a humorous parody, same with gigachad
Love these thoughts. Appreciate the raw and brutal honesty (mixed w seasoned wisdom and insight)
Wow, I really love your analogy with a door and stones. It's awesome!
Thank you JJ!
As a 16 year old I completely agree and have seen this over and over again with my generation. Honestly it’s pretty terrifying
I do genuinely believe a lot of it is also people feeling compelled to have a ‘hot take’ on everything as well
Couldn’t have said it any better JJ. Thanks for this video.
Absolutely true. I hope that stuff like this is a thing people grow out of over time, but I worry that there’s staying power to this misinformation and radicalization of the youth. Really glad people like you are able to speak truth about this and bring this to light.
Hi JJ , I am 17 And it makes
me Sad obviously bcz well what you mentioned is devastating to think .It is something i myself have thought of ; when i see ppl around me in support of such ideologies without any proper examination or knwoledge but i am also kinda happy that i am watching People like you instead of some conspiracy theorists just saying complete bullshit but yeah idk if you realise this but you are a true treasure ...atleast to me and you are one of my fav youtuber and i love watching your videos and Last but not least .. Thank you for being such a great educator ✨
I think it's important to remember that these types of criticisms toward young people are nothing new, and similar things have been said about "the younger generation" going all the way back to the stone age. It's just an unfortunate truth that making mistakes is a byproduct of growing as a person. How can anyone know what is right without also giving equal consideration to what is wrong? To me, this moment carries the same energy as when 70's British punk bands had a fondness for memorabilia from "a certain group of people from the 30's and 40's". Just like in this moment, it wasn't the downfall of society, but rather just an odd misstep as a new generation tried to find it's footing.