After reading many reviews and watching a lot of videos, I chose this option for my first backup power station. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHypYDKHAN93Lp2RQpfvU_ksc70wJ00pt I was between this and a larger option that could power a wider range of items, but the price/size/capacity blend seemed right for this unit. Hasn't gotten a ton of use yet, but the build quality is solid and it charges fine via the Rockpals solar panel I purchased to pair with it. One thing to note is that the screen is optimized for a top down viewing angle, which makes sense, but this means it washes out at other angles - especially low angles. Not a huge deal, but perhaps a better option for the display could be used to provide wider viewing angles.
In an extended outage this would be a great propane saver. Say before you go to bed, turn off the generator. The EcoFlow delta pro will carry your fridge freezer lights internet through the night zero problem. That way your huge honkin generator doesn’t essentially idle and chew through half a gallon of propane per hour through the night
@@TKCLwhat am I doing wrong, I have tried running my deep freezer and it makes a noise then shuts down. Should I do something special it get it to power my deep freezer?
I plan on hanging my clothes on the line in a down-grid situation... not wearing out my solar generator. That's what our people did until 80 years ago. Yes, even in the winter... just hang them in the basement. If it worked for my Grandma... it works for me. Thanks for all of the GREAT information!
Between you and Casey LaDelle, I am sold on the Ecoflow products. You two are the most honest reviewers on the web I have seen. When I invest in backup power for my house, Ecoflow will be my decision. Thank you for your testing and your real life review!
I honestly do believe they make the best and most cutting edge products in the portable power field. Everything me and my friends have owned of theirs has worked as advertised.
This is what low cost conversion conversations are all about!! People who have no idea of the benefits that a minimal investment could return can now comprehend! Huh? Say what!? Thanks much! really top notch
I know I'm late to post this, but this was an extremely helpful video, and I especially liked the whole day analysis including the solar charging. Thank you!!
Just a note on your comment about being able to change the 400w solar panel setup to support smaller power stations. As long as you are below the solar voltage limit of the power station(River is 50v max), you can safely put a 400w(48v max) panel, the station will only pull up to it's max power input and will typically get more power even in low sun or overcast conditions than if you only had a 220w panel plugged in.
Power company says not to go over 65" TV's cause they use a lot of electric. That is why I have not went to the 75" TV. Great video. I have a projector and 120" screen and we watch movies outside❤️.
Hey friends, Pastor Fred here in Rockwood TN. This is the unit i am planning on using to start my off grid living with. Have started buying accessories already... Will power my RV while I build my cabin, expanding to the 240 with batts and the duel fuel charger..
Yep that's it, has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that's the WEST side of the house and the farther away I get the sooner I get sun and solar input. 🙄
Exactly and 240 volts. That allows full panel tie in like a normal generator. You can live quite comfortably off grid or through an extended outage with that much capacity. You just need good solar input to keep everything charged up.
Actually if you purchase the smart generators it is even more. Each smart generator with a full 20 pound propane tank can generate roughly 18KW of recharging for the delta pros. If you have two delta pros, two batteries and two smart generators you have nearly 64KWH. Couple this with 3.2KW of solar input and it is a great whole home backup. I just purchased this configuration and am excited to get it set up.
Fantastic! My wife and I are considering buying a van (Ford Transit or Ram ProMaster) and converting it into the "Ultimate Travel in Comfort" rig. We don't want to fly anymore, but we travel from N.E. Florida up to Michigan and New Hampshire often to visit family and friends. I'm sure many of your viewers have seen all the van life videos and all the awesome conversions people have been doing. I've already designed our layout, and have pretty much decided on everything I'd like to do except for the power system. The lithium battery systems people are building now are great, but the costs are extremely high. 3 to 4 times what this Delta Pro unit costs. I think you just solved my dilemma, Andrew. This unit could be the heart of our electrical system. When we aren't traveling in the van, the unit can be easily removed and brought inside. When we are traveling, the unit is secured in it's spot and a couple inputs and outputs plugged in. I think I'd even be able to connect the van's extra alternator in and charge the unit while driving in addition to solar panels. We won't be camping remotely in the van for multiple days. It's a comfortable road tripper that we can sleep in overnight. It''ll be one of the first vans in the parking lot, and the last to leave when we go to concerts, sporting events, or other "tail gating" type venues. I need to do some more research, but I think this may be the way to go for my application. I want to be able to run the van's A/C unit and refrigerator overnight (8 hours minimum) without any input, so if I can get there with a Delta Pro, it's seems like a no-brainer.
It would be perfect for that situation. As for running an AC all night long, it depends on the wattage and how long the compressor stays engaged. The good news is you could make room for an additional battery if you ever needed it. No doubt this unit with a extra battery would run you for a very long time. As for power output, it should run anything you could ever put in the van.
Very good video. Love all the data and it shows with an investment. You can be self-sufficient on your electricity usage. And I hate to hear the grumbling in government about gas cook stoves 😒🙏🇺🇸
Great presentation, thanks! Lots of features and great portability for camping and outdoor purposes but I wasn’t sold on the capabilities considering the fairly expensive price point of the package (needing 2 units for 240V power). I ended up going a different route for emergency backup power by repurposing an old 5KW 240V APC Inverter unit I found for cheap money on eBay which is backed up with eight deep cycle marine batteries to provide roughly 24 hours of emergency power at 400 watt-hours of steady draw during the outage period. I also wire the emergency circuits to a transfer switch for my setup and leave the switches in “inverter” mode so that when grid power does go out in the middle of the night, my critical loads automatically switch to running off the inverter and when the grid comes back, the inverter automatically switches back to grid power and starts to recharge the battery bank. It’s not portable like the ecoflow but I didn’t need that capability.
There's many different ways to go about it, this is for the person wanting portability, adaptability and as plug and play as you can get. I just ran a huge series of tests on this unit, I was blown away by what it would run.
I have 2 delta pros... I am going to be doing some testing tomorrow... I have a design in mind using magnetic mounting system ... I am glad I found your channel
Thank you, finally some info I can use, wanted to go Solar with my new shop, much appreciated as I couldn’t afford to run it or have it on grid power at present time, it’s on drop cords at present to run lights, eco flow delta pro ordered, like the panels as well, I will order them next
I'm moving into a converted skoolie full time as my tiny home on wheels. The bus has a 2000 watt inverter and some solar, but still not enough power for my daily needs. My bus hardly gets any sun at all, especially in the PNW. I don't really understand electrical systems. This might cost more than rewiring my bus, but this seems much easier.i have a high powered espresso machine, TV, vita,mic, blowdryer, and an electric wheelchair.
The allure of these systems are portability and plug and play. No crazy wiring needed and all controls are built in. The problem is how you recharge if you don't have any solar. It isn't cost effective to recharge these via a generator. Sounds like you need a very large solar array so it can pull some power in even on cloudy days.
Just wondering if you have thought of using a cloth’s line outside it would save lots of energy my wife and I use one quite often on nice days Thanks for the video and the reviews you bring your viewers
We will if the need arises, Tiffany isn't fond of the rough feeling it leaves the clothes with. However in an extended outage, you bet we will string one up.
A very informative review! From what I have been reading pretty soon everyone will be needing to run their homes on solar power and cook meals over a fire pit! You might have to put u a clothes line for Tiffany to hang laundry on next and invest in a washboard. Between the price of food going thru the roof and the government wanting everything to run on solar power we are going to be in trouble! 😢
@@TKCL Thanks for the Vids on the Delta Pro. Your vids alone sold this generator for me. Sad to say but most people will never wake up, only if they knew what the people they put their trust into has in store for us all. #Stay safe out here
i think Will was having trouble using a pair of these to actually charge his tesla. he was able to make a bypass and get it working, but standard something didn't work. but that also could have been an older model. Anyways, great video, thanks for the info, keep at it :D
You are correct, I seen that episode. Won't be a problem for me as I have no plans for an electric car. When I mentioned EV charging in the video, I was stating you can use these at EV charging stations for a quick recharge of the unit.
Great overview video. Great to see the house/shop panel integrations. Cool that eco flow also has dual fuel generators which would be perfect for that outside plug-in. Don’t think you’ll be able to run your dishwasher though since that would of course kick the pump in. 😀 240v is the way to go for sure when on a well.
No plans to run a dishwasher or heavy use appliance during an electrical outage. I just want to use these for critical loads like my freezers and refrigerators.
Glad I stumbled upon your channel! Thanks for all the helpful information and thorough review. Were just getting started off grid and currently researching how to power tools to start our build
I've added this to my reading list for closer analysis but my 1st observation is that I don't understand why you would need or want to roll your Ecoflow outside across the lawn to get it close to the solar panels when you can buy mc4 solar panel cords in various lengths for about 1 dollar per foot, (40ft. or 20 ft.) I have 4 x 400 watt rigid (Renogy) solar panels (still sitting in the un-opened boxes)..and an Ecoflow Delta Pro, and that's how I intend to hook them up. The panels would be mounted on my garage and I'd run the mc4 cables about 40ft into my house into the E.D.P. I will check out your other videos to see if you did get some rigid solar panels and find out how you hooked them up to your E.D.P.
Keep in mind I had just received this for review, I used it as it came. I now have two of these units, an inside generator plug. Full solar system at my shop and 2400 watt solar array. Not to mention about 200ft of 10ga PV cable and connectors.
How about a multi-day continuous test. When you are without power for several days, will you drain the battery by the 2nd or 3rd day? I'm serious about solar and wind for electricity, but I have a gas generator that I have only used for a few days in the last several years due to power outages. It's hard to justify the money that a battery pack costs. At realistic use, I'm guessing my generator will easily outlast the battery pack. The generator cost 15% of what your battery pack online pricing is, and I didn't have to add solar cells to the purchase. Thanks for another wonderful video! I see you do your homework and know I can trust what you say. Keep up the great work!
I show a wide variety of content and items because we all have different tastes. I hear you about the generator, but a lot of people don't desire the gas, oil and noise. A lot of people also live where generators can't be used, HOAs, condos, high rises, high theft neighborhoods ect. These exist because there is a demand for them. I like the fact that I don't have to rely on fossil fuels that sometimes are hard to find. I experienced that years ago after a hurricane, no gas to be found anywhere and it was chaos. I'll be doing further testing of the unit and adding additional solar input.
That Ecoflow stuff is nice as it is very much plug n play. For someone that doesn't know much about solar, or just wants a simple system it's ok, but if you get serious and want to go off grid, it is way, way too expensive. With all the roof space you have between your 3 buildings, you have ample space to go off grid. I watch 2 channels that delve into solar and off grid, and it is surprising how it haws advanced in the last few years. If you are interested in off grid I would suggest watching DIY Solar Power with Will Prowse , and Off-Grid Garage . There are for sure many other channels that deal with solar, But this is a starting point.
I don't disagree with you at all, but these exist because people desire them. Some people want portability for events, off grid tools, hunting cabins, fishing shacks ect. A lot of people are not comfortable wiring and setting up multiple pieces of equipment either. This is about as plug and play as it gets. Some people want a truck, some want a sports car. Variety is the spice of life.
No, you need two for 240 volts to power a central AC. This single unit will easily power any 120 volt device in my house. I will list a video below showing two running my main AC. I am without power now after getting hit by hurricane Idalia, we are running the Delta Pros now. ruclips.net/video/rxn-cqnKuoQ/видео.html
Great content...after working for many years in the utility industry...a couple things people don't understand is: 1-the power coming in from the utility varies but for my example 13,800 volts single phase generally comes into a "step down" transformer which converts distribution voltage to 120/240 volts that is used in a house panel etc. 2-what the general public doesn't understand without a transfer switch or inner lock device a home owner that "back feeds" from a generator through their panel to utility transformer can potentially send (for my example) 13,800 volts back onto utility distribution lines....that is done by essentially turning the "step down" transformer into "step up" transformer. Think of this way...when you use a generator improperly and you back feed voltage through a utility transformer you are essentially becoming a utility power plant...and just a disclaimer all voltage whether 13,800 volts or 120/240 volts have the potential to be deadly.
One of the best things I appreciate with the Delta Pro is that I can charge it using multiple ways. I cam charge it using solar panels, the Smart Generator and a whole lot more.
I intended to buy a smaller solar unit for my daughter, bust costs of shipping and customs fees are insane. I couldn't plug it, know absolutely nothing about all you've been talking about, but my son in law is an electrician and he loves his mother in law:)))
Very good practical application report and overview of the Ecoflow devices and their performance capabilities! I myself also own an Ecoflow and the 400 watt panel. Looking forward to more reports in this regard. I'm sure you can easily attach even larger off-road capable casters to the Delta Pro by yourself. Maybe a small Delta Pro upgrade project? ;) Thank you very much! Little hint: The 400 watt panel can certainly be partially folded in and fixed via the eyelets on the edge to charge small devices without overloading them or you build your own quicksnap mechanism. ;)
Regarding the adapter cable... So if I connect the adapter like you did to my delta pro and then to my inlet box with interlock kit, i will get 120 volts to both legs of my panel? And 2nd question, for some reason the electrician who wired our house put the refrigerator and kitchen lights on a multi branch circuit sharing a neutral. Will this setup cause any issues with that? Thanks for any help.
Surprised you lifted it up on the table since it’s 100lbs. I’d need to take mine upstairs during power outages and that’s what’s kept me from getting one
@@TKCL dang making me feel weak. I haven’t been doing any physical work for years and moved recently and pulled the muscle in both my biceps. Trying to figure out how to get back to lifting stuff without so much pain in my arms, maybe lift this thing a few times lol
So, could you leave the generator plugged in and leave solar panels hooked up to then run everyday like you did in this video and save electricity from the grid, but still run your 240 devices off the grid at the same time provided it is through the transfer switch. In other words save money by decreasing your grid power by using the generator?
Have same unit. Purchased with the plug that goes in to my home Generlink. Even if I turn off all my 240v breakers, I cannot get power to panel on any circuits. Any idea why not?
A great starter system for those who need the same power that a Honda 2000 watt generator can provide. There are better systems for less out there (Big Battery Rhino series). And you are extremely correct on the solar input to ANY system makes all the difference. An thought on adding a micro-wind turbine to add power at night or duing a storm?
I am seriously considering wind as well. I am not sure how to tie both solar and wind to the unit with one input. I never hear of others running wind with these, always seems to be solar (which I prefer living in Florida).
And FYI this is 3600 watts continuous (can be boosted to 4500) and 7200 peak. This has a lot more power output than the Honda. Wait until you see what I've tested with it. 😉
@@TKCL Check out John Daniel (www.youtube.com/@1JOHNDANIEL). He has several videos and links for 500 to 1K watt wind generator set ups (yes they are Chinese but they do work well) for under $500. You should be able to tie in wind by adding a small charge controller or a rectifier (110V to 12V) and then charge into the solar input. Solar is fickle, no one system will fit everybody. Your system is awesome for light/medium use and portable. Here on the rural coast of Washington state, I need 7500 watts continuous, 240V split-phase, and 5 to 7 days of battery (all for less than $16,000). Looking forward to you further testing, and I can see you upgrading sooner than you think. Great information and keep up the good work!!!
If I double up this system I can get 7200 continuous watts split phase 240v and add up to 24kwh worth of batteries. That's actually more than I think I'll need. Being in the sunshine state it's rare we go more than a day without sun. A decent amount of solar panels are needed as well and I can always charge via one of my gas generators should we have several days of no sun. I'm leaning more towards full off grid backup power and not daily use as my shop needs a dedicated 240v service with the powerful tools I run. I also have future shop upgrade plans. With as crazy as the world's getting long term off grid backup power makes me feel better. And I don't want to depend on fossil fuels either.
Cool video Andrew, really looking forward to the 240v system test video. Does your electric power company offer a deal to buy excess electricity fro. It's customers? My emc acts like we're crazy & doesn't want to give any information/help on solar panels system.
, This one I like, this is realistic, I could take this out to a cabin and have a functional cabin for a while off of this so it’s a true off grid solution, you could live in the house run by 3500 W and all of them are pretty cool but Having some thing big enough that you could charge off of a generator on a cloudy day that would get you through the night is pretty cool and they should be big enough to do it, if you had a little hunting cabin up on a mountain, this could run it at a realistic level. I like it.
Absolutely this would be the perfect cabin solution as is, especially since it takes real solar input 1600 watts. I love how it is adaptable and you can build as you go. That's what I'm wanting to do, two units for 240 volts and eventually more battery storage. With a true solar array I can honestly see this taking me off grid or allowing me to span any extended outage.
I saw the Delta Pro on sale at Costco, went on RUclips and found your videos. This gave me the idea of power my sunroom partially off grid. Can one delta pro simultaneously power 1 ton 115V mini split & 25cuft refrigerator & a ceiling fan & a TV through the 30A outlet?
That's around 1500 watts and I'd imagine that's only at startup. The refrigerator can pull a 1000 on startup and they usually settle out in the 150-200 watt range. With all that said, you appear to be just fine with power to spare. How long are you expecting this to run your equipment? Adding solar panels?
@@TKCL the refrigerator & ceiling fan are running 24/7. The AC & TV are used on demand about 6-10 hrs in a day. The Delta Pro combo came with 400W panels. I have a lot of sun in TX so my plan was to charge with solar during daylight and on AC after sundown. It wasn’t clear to me If both charging inputs are being used, which has priority? If in the situation of low batt will the AC charging automatically come on?
It depends on what all you run. They max out at 1600 watts, but it's hard to get there due to voltage and amperage constraints. I have been running 1200 watts per Delta pro with good success.
I bought a Bluetti AC300 with (2) 3072Wh batteries so I'm in the same boat you are. I don't know enough to claim which brand is better but I think they are very similar. I did buy (2) 420 watt panels and they work well. I was charging around 650 watts in on a fall day. I'm considering buying another AC300 and 2 more batteries so I can generate 240 volts and 12,000 Wh and do what he is doing on this video. It's very addictive let me tell you.
@@TKCL depending on price😁(it sometimes tends to double), if you're doing solar it might cover it, along with an air source Heat Pump for heating and cooling the living spaces
Great video man! I'm wondering if you can power a central AC unit with 1 or 2 ecoflow delta pro. I have a 4 ton central AC unit and I want to dedicate 1 or 2 ecoflows to power it in the summer but not sure if possible. What do you recommend? thanks
One isn't possible because it only provides 120 volts. You will need two and their dual voltage hub for 240 volts. Also does your AC have a soft start capicitor? Those make a huge difference on startup surge of the compressor. I highly recommend having one added, only cost me $150. Spoiler alert, I just got a second Delta pro and I'll be testing my central AC with it. I wont have that video our for a week or two. So be looking for it.
@@TKCL I don't know if my unit has the soft start capacitor, will have to ask the hvac company who installed it. Just subscribed to your channel, can't wait to watch how you power your central AC. Thanks for replying!
Your thinking about one scenario. People charge these from the wall before potential outages. Some charge from an efficient inverter generator. Some charge from the wall on cloudy days. Unless you have a lot of extra batteries, it's not uncommon to use 120 volts to charge.
were you running your air conditioner that day? hurricane ian took out the power to my house for 11 days and the money i spent on an airbnb with electricity is about the same price as getting a solar generator like this. i am trying to figure out what kind of solar generator i might want to buy for a several day outage that could run my refridgerator, freezer, and some fans. my mother wants air conditioning because the gas generators people use in the neighborhood are SO loud that she doesn't want any windows open. do you have any thoughts on this? thank you for this comprehensive video!
As long as the voltage if the panels is good you should be fine they will limit current and only use what they can as long as the voltage is in range you could hook up 20,000 watts and it will only do whatever the current limit is
Great informative video. Question. If your solar array is not close to your eco generators, what kind of extended cables would you specifically need to buy? Thanks
Depends on the voltage and amperage. That can changed based on how you wire your solar array (series or parallel). Bigger is always a smarter choice, but it also depends on the length of the run as well. 10 GA minimum and go larger as amperage and distance increase. I'll be covering some of this in an upcoming video.
@@TKCL That’s where I get lost. Over the summer I bought 2 delta pro gens and 4 batteries, plus the voltage hub to connect everything. My problem is only space for solar is in back yard and my panel is in front of the house. I don’t have solar panels or transfer switch installed yet. Cuz I don’t know what the hell I’m doing, just trying to prepare!
I'm building a solar array starting next week just for my delta pro and I'll be sure to touch on a lot of this. It can get confusing. I'm looking to add a second one and the hub myself.
No because with a single unit I can only run 120 volt appliances. I had all 240 volt breakers off. When I get a second one I'll test all 240 volt and 120 volt appliances running.
@@TKCL I'd like to see a 'load depletion' at night to see how fast the batteries draw down. Also, how long to recharge depleted batteries with solar only. Maybe you covered that and I just missed it? Great info. and I really liked your Gen. transfer switch video! Thanks for what you do!
Just saw this video. You can lower the backlight on your tv to 30 and lower the sharpness to zero. This will cut the energy usage on the tv in half. Let me know how you do 🙋♀️
and you don’t have to worry about “sending” 400 watts. The charge controller doesn’t work that way, it’ll only Pull what it needs to pull. You can have 1000 watts of solar and it only wants 200, it’ll only take 200. The BIGGEST thing is to make sure the voltage range is correct. That’s all. I know a guy that has 2,500 watts of solar panels for his delta pro. Why? He got them dirt cheap used, and on cloudy days he gets near the output of max. On a pure sunny day you’ll see it’s input at exactly 1600.
You series / parallel them. Pretend they’re 24 volt panels. If you had 240 watt 24 volt panels. You’d put 5 in series, that’s 1200 watts. Then you’d have another 5 in series, and those two “sets” feed into an MC4 10awg Y adapter. Analogy is your truck. It’s 12 volt and it’s dang important you stay with a “12” volt system. Not 6 like a golfcart, or 24volt like some big rigs. But you can parallel say, 4 truck batteries for 4,000 cold cranking amps. Your truck might only need 400 of those 4,000 cranking amps, so it’ll only pull 10% of what the battery has to provide. Same thing with solar. Voltage is crucial but amps isn’t.
I'm definitely familiar with series, parallel and series parallel. I was just adding up in my head 25 100 watt panels would be impossible to meet factory max on both voltage and amperage. Plus that uneven number of panels makes it impossible to evenly series parallel. That's also me assuming it's 100 watt panels.
@@TKCLe best is residential panels. They’re cheaper and tougher than boutique Chinese hobby brands like BougeRV or Renogy. They all have to pass UL. Brands like Hanwha, Canadian Solar, SunPower, LG, Panasonic, Rec Solar, solarworld, etc are all great. I got myself 35 volt 280 watt REC Solar panels used off Craigslist for $80 each. Power washed them and they look good as new. The thing about solar you gotta watch out is as they heat up voltages sag. No biggie. But when it’s cold, say a winter day that’s shaded by clouds, then the sun pokes out, that’s when you have a high VOC. Especially during that polar vortex. So if you used 35volt VOC panels, I’d only do 3 in series, then parallel that up. I have 21x 280 watt panels on my roof I got for $80 each used.
@@xzibit8614 that's a great deal, I just got the new compact Renogy 100 watt panels. I was seriously considering 320 watt residential panels but have some reasons why I wanted to try the cheaper ones.
As always great video . Very interesting and got me thinking . First off I’m not a electrician so all this stuff I’m told is over my head . We have a 1700 sqft house . We heat with natural gas and cook with it . I have a 5500 watt generator with a 30 amp plug . Was told I needed a 7500 watt Gen with a 50 amp plug to run my house . I did pay an electrician to install my transfer box witch is 50 amp . I have central air and he said I can’t run my ac on a 30 amp plug ? Everything is installed and ready to but if I lose power in the summer I have no ac .maybe I just need to buy one of these units ? Ps our hot water heater is also gas and no deep freezer just one fridge . Any info is appreciated, thanks .
Depending on the size of your hvac maybe! Also a soft start capacitor makes a huge difference for generator starting. FYI a 7500 watt generator will produce no more than 30 amps usually, you'll need a way bigger generator to hit 50 amps.
@@TKCL my electrician sent me a link to a dewalt 9000/ 7500 50 amp generator at Sams Club for $849.99 . My unit is a 2 1/2 ton , it has 2x20 amp breakers on it in the breaker box . I got a Reliance 510C 120/240-Volt 50-Amp 10-Circuit Pro/Tran 2 Indoor Transfer Switch put in . I just wanna be safe and not kill my appliances and stay cool or warm when needed . Maybe run a few lights and a radio / tv .
I bet you can run that hvac no problem as long as it has a soft start capacitor. Just don't run any other major loads while it's running. You can also add a soft start to the hvac after the fact, it's a must have item.
Also I don't recommend running the emergency heat strips on a generator that size too. If your unit is a heat pump unit run just that. I have the ability to turn off my heat strips via my smart thermostat.
The Main Thing I think People are missing/overlooking besides the Obvious Ease of Use is the mobility factor to match the Power capabilities and taking into act. they also have a peak of 7200w and 3600-4500 running That can then Be paired With Another generator or extra Battery. As a Standalone Home or Mobile Solution it only cover so far before it gets prohibitively expensive (for me at least). as others state a will prowse diy solution in any off grid rv,camper or home is a must to Expand this things Capabilities...Luckily These systems can be fed into each other to maximize power and Savings. I envision for myself a Workshop in a Utility Trailer to be powered by this Delta Pro and (2) 400w Panels that will eventually pay for a Campervan that Tows a CamperTrailer. All of these vehicles have a limited Footprint for Solar Arrays and I think People are missing that part. how could you fit anything bigger than a 1600 watt array on a RV or School much less a Van or 16ft Trailer. An immobile Power setup can afford to be cheaper because it won't be moved nor jostled with need to be robust. Im going to get a cover for mine and see about a wheel uprgrade. Don't forget to use the Panels as water barriers when it rains as they are waterproof! thanks for the review.
The DIY plug and play, adaptability, plus portability is the big selling points for these. There are of course many other solutions out there for more permanent mounting. Wait until you see tomorrows video where I show the portable side and what all it will run. I am quite certain I powered and ran things no one else has tested.
With respect to 120 volts and using the TT30 to L14-30 with the panel interlock plate, one must also be carful to not use any MBWC (Multi Branch Wired Circuit) in your electrical panel. MBWC use a shared neutral. Although your MBWC might only be on 15 amp circuits typically found in kitchens where there are split plugs using a 14/3 AWG wire, using the TT30 to L14-30 can overload the neutral wire and cause a fire. A dedicated 120 volt transfer switch is a better solution for ONE single DP.
Very true, typically you don't find those circuits anymore but a lot of older homes do have them. I still stand by the transfer switch being the most foolproof way.
@@TKCL, Agreed. I am in Canada and my house was built in 2003 yet they still build brand new houses here with MBWC's. In fact, I just had my whole house panel swapped out last February to consolidate 2 panels smaller panels into one larger panel and the electricians still use MBWC's.
The real test is powering your house at night to see how long the battery will last then charging it and using it during the day. It probably won’t last all night and it probably won’t charge completely to use the next night while sustaining the power needs during the day. 1200 watts solar and another battery add.
If you hang around you'll get your wish! I am building my solar array now (1200 watts) and will test that. However the real test is two units for 240 volts running absolutely everything. I know to do this continuously I'll need additional batteries. That's the great thing about this system, I can build as I go.
@@TKCL For sure. I’m in the process of building out my system. I found it to be a lot cheaper to build out and put together then buying an eco flow. But I have no portability. It takes a lot of solar to charge dead batteries and power the house. I’m going 48v panels to a 12v battery system. Curious to see the next eco flow test
They all have their pluses and minuses. A DIY system can be had for cheaper and you can build as big as you like. The Ecoflow system is extremely easy to use and is plug and play for the people who don't want to wire or build a system. It's also portable for the people wanting multi use. There is no perfect system.
After reading many reviews and watching a lot of videos, I chose this option for my first backup power station. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHypYDKHAN93Lp2RQpfvU_ksc70wJ00pt I was between this and a larger option that could power a wider range of items, but the price/size/capacity blend seemed right for this unit. Hasn't gotten a ton of use yet, but the build quality is solid and it charges fine via the Rockpals solar panel I purchased to pair with it. One thing to note is that the screen is optimized for a top down viewing angle, which makes sense, but this means it washes out at other angles - especially low angles. Not a huge deal, but perhaps a better option for the display could be used to provide wider viewing angles.
It is!
This is likely one of the best and most thorough real world reviews I’ve seen…and believe me I’ve seen most of them. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful! More tests coming, finishing my solar array now.
In an extended outage this would be a great propane saver. Say before you go to bed, turn off the generator. The EcoFlow delta pro will carry your fridge freezer lights internet through the night zero problem. That way your huge honkin generator doesn’t essentially idle and chew through half a gallon of propane per hour through the night
No kidding! Until I build a bigger system this can definitely be an addition more than the main unit.
@@TKCLwhat am I doing wrong, I have tried running my deep freezer and it makes a noise then shuts down. Should I do something special it get it to power my deep freezer?
I plan on hanging my clothes on the line in a down-grid situation... not wearing out my solar generator. That's what our people did until 80 years ago. Yes, even in the winter... just hang them in the basement. If it worked for my Grandma... it works for me. Thanks for all of the GREAT information!
I agree
Between you and Casey LaDelle, I am sold on the Ecoflow products. You two are the most honest reviewers on the web I have seen. When I invest in backup power for my house, Ecoflow will be my decision. Thank you for your testing and your real life review!
I honestly do believe they make the best and most cutting edge products in the portable power field. Everything me and my friends have owned of theirs has worked as advertised.
Casey also said that they build EVERYTHING IN HOUSE. NO outside parts. They take FULL RESPONSIBILTY for their products.
This is what low cost conversion conversations are all about!! People who have no idea of the benefits that a minimal investment could return can now comprehend!
Huh? Say what!?
Thanks much! really top notch
He explained the XY bridge adapter perfectly. About time someone understands how to feed a 240 inlet with 120 volts. Great job.
Glad you enjoyed it! This system just saved me after a hit from hurricane Idalia.
It truly does make you aware and appreciate grid power and what we truly can cut out of our lives.
I agree that the Delta Pro is the best home backup power source because I can integrate it to my home circuit using the Smart Home Panel.
I know I'm late to post this, but this was an extremely helpful video, and I especially liked the whole day analysis including the solar charging. Thank you!!
Glad it was helpful!
Just a note on your comment about being able to change the 400w solar panel setup to support smaller power stations. As long as you are below the solar voltage limit of the power station(River is 50v max), you can safely put a 400w(48v max) panel, the station will only pull up to it's max power input and will typically get more power even in low sun or overcast conditions than if you only had a 220w panel plugged in.
Power company says not to go over 65" TV's cause they use a lot of electric. That is why I have not went to the 75" TV.
Great video. I have a projector and 120" screen and we watch movies outside❤️.
Hey friends, Pastor Fred here in Rockwood TN. This is the unit i am planning on using to start my off grid living with. Have started buying accessories already... Will power my RV while I build my cabin, expanding to the 240 with batts and the duel fuel charger..
That's what I love about it, the adaptability. You can start with the first unit, use it and save for whatever else you want to add and build it out.
I like how youre pulling that thing as far away from your house as you can so you dont get any of those solar fumes leaking into the house.
Yep that's it, has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that's the WEST side of the house and the farther away I get the sooner I get sun and solar input. 🙄
😂
What? Solar fumes. Never heard of that. Care to explain? I'm a newbie and not yet ready to plunge into this kind of Emergency Power.
It was a joke, no worries about emissions.
The best thing that makes the Delta Pro very well suited for home use is that it can be expanded to 25kWh.
Exactly and 240 volts. That allows full panel tie in like a normal generator. You can live quite comfortably off grid or through an extended outage with that much capacity. You just need good solar input to keep everything charged up.
Actually if you purchase the smart generators it is even more. Each smart generator with a full 20 pound propane tank can generate roughly 18KW of recharging for the delta pros. If you have two delta pros, two batteries and two smart generators you have nearly 64KWH. Couple this with 3.2KW of solar input and it is a great whole home backup. I just purchased this configuration and am excited to get it set up.
Fantastic! My wife and I are considering buying a van (Ford Transit or Ram ProMaster) and converting it into the "Ultimate Travel in Comfort" rig. We don't want to fly anymore, but we travel from N.E. Florida up to Michigan and New Hampshire often to visit family and friends. I'm sure many of your viewers have seen all the van life videos and all the awesome conversions people have been doing. I've already designed our layout, and have pretty much decided on everything I'd like to do except for the power system. The lithium battery systems people are building now are great, but the costs are extremely high. 3 to 4 times what this Delta Pro unit costs. I think you just solved my dilemma, Andrew. This unit could be the heart of our electrical system. When we aren't traveling in the van, the unit can be easily removed and brought inside. When we are traveling, the unit is secured in it's spot and a couple inputs and outputs plugged in. I think I'd even be able to connect the van's extra alternator in and charge the unit while driving in addition to solar panels. We won't be camping remotely in the van for multiple days. It's a comfortable road tripper that we can sleep in overnight. It''ll be one of the first vans in the parking lot, and the last to leave when we go to concerts, sporting events, or other "tail gating" type venues. I need to do some more research, but I think this may be the way to go for my application. I want to be able to run the van's A/C unit and refrigerator overnight (8 hours minimum) without any input, so if I can get there with a Delta Pro, it's seems like a no-brainer.
It would be perfect for that situation. As for running an AC all night long, it depends on the wattage and how long the compressor stays engaged. The good news is you could make room for an additional battery if you ever needed it. No doubt this unit with a extra battery would run you for a very long time. As for power output, it should run anything you could ever put in the van.
Awsome video, exactly the type of review I think most people are looking for.
Glad you think so!
Good review Andrew Thanks. It's amazing what they are coming out with. 👍👍. ❤️❤️. 🇨🇦
Yes it is, I'm really excited about this one. It has real potential.
Very good video. Love all the data and it shows with an investment. You can be self-sufficient on your electricity usage. And I hate to hear the grumbling in government about gas cook stoves 😒🙏🇺🇸
Well I almost threw up when I seen propane at $4.49 a gallon this week. Come on! Price gouging!
Great presentation, thanks! Lots of features and great portability for camping and outdoor purposes but I wasn’t sold on the capabilities considering the fairly expensive price point of the package (needing 2 units for 240V power). I ended up going a different route for emergency backup power by repurposing an old 5KW 240V APC Inverter unit I found for cheap money on eBay which is backed up with eight deep cycle marine batteries to provide roughly 24 hours of emergency power at 400 watt-hours of steady draw during the outage period. I also wire the emergency circuits to a transfer switch for my setup and leave the switches in “inverter” mode so that when grid power does go out in the middle of the night, my critical loads automatically switch to running off the inverter and when the grid comes back, the inverter automatically switches back to grid power and starts to recharge the battery bank. It’s not portable like the ecoflow but I didn’t need that capability.
There's many different ways to go about it, this is for the person wanting portability, adaptability and as plug and play as you can get. I just ran a huge series of tests on this unit, I was blown away by what it would run.
@@TKCL There's always a premium on portability and convenience. I like the idea of being able to just unplug and bolt when the zombies hit LOL
I have 2 delta pros... I am going to be doing some testing tomorrow... I have a design in mind using magnetic mounting system ... I am glad I found your channel
Building my solar array starting this week. Ultimate plan is full solar array for two Delta pros and two additional batteries.
Thank you, finally some info I can use, wanted to go Solar with my new shop, much appreciated as I couldn’t afford to run it or have it on grid power at present time, it’s on drop cords at present to run lights, eco flow delta pro ordered, like the panels as well, I will order them next
Glad you enjoyed it, did you use the link and discount code 8n the description. Will save you money.
Learned a ton thank you the whole house review priceless for me...
Glad it was helpful!
I would definitely say that the Delta Pro is the best backup power solution since it has 3600Wh of capacity.
It's upgradable to 25kwh, so it has a lot of potential.
I'm moving into a converted skoolie full time as my tiny home on wheels. The bus has a 2000 watt inverter and some solar, but still not enough power for my daily needs. My bus hardly gets any sun at all, especially in the PNW. I don't really understand electrical systems. This might cost more than rewiring my bus, but this seems much easier.i have a high powered espresso machine, TV, vita,mic, blowdryer, and an electric wheelchair.
The allure of these systems are portability and plug and play. No crazy wiring needed and all controls are built in. The problem is how you recharge if you don't have any solar. It isn't cost effective to recharge these via a generator. Sounds like you need a very large solar array so it can pull some power in even on cloudy days.
I'm glad your doing this cause I'm learning a bunch from you
Glad you enjoy it
Same here
Thank you so much for this video. You answered alot of my questions I had .
Great! More videos coming as we expand to off grid solar backup power.
Great video. You covered all of my questions.
Glad you enjoyed it
Just wondering if you have thought of using a cloth’s line outside it would save lots of energy my wife and I use one quite often on nice days
Thanks for the video and the reviews you bring your viewers
We will if the need arises, Tiffany isn't fond of the rough feeling it leaves the clothes with. However in an extended outage, you bet we will string one up.
@@TKCL sometimes my wife after they dry some of The delicates she will throw in the dryer for 5 minutes to soften them up .
Do you have a video or can you tell me what your inlet is at the house and are you using the rv on the Ecoflo?
Here is the video installing the generator plug ruclips.net/video/FTRfq7qG8gg/видео.html
We no longer have a RV to test this on.
How well does it take when the well pump turns on , how much draw does it take up ? Thx
You talking about surge or running watts?
A very informative review! From what I have been reading pretty soon everyone will be needing to run their homes on solar power and cook meals over a fire pit! You might have to put u a clothes line for Tiffany to hang laundry on next and invest in a washboard. Between the price of food going thru the roof and the government wanting everything to run on solar power we are going to be in trouble! 😢
Joking or not I'm afraid your comment is 100 percent correct. People better wake up!
@@TKCL Thanks for the Vids on the Delta Pro. Your vids alone sold this generator for me. Sad to say but most people will never wake up, only if they knew what the people they put their trust into has in store for us all. #Stay safe out here
Thank goodness I got rid of my TV 20 years ago I use my laptop are the panels waterproof ☺️👍
Yes they are
That’s good my Jackery are not 👍
It will work great in my room out in the deer stand.... Maybe a mini fridge..... And a small smoker and I will be happy 😁
Lol this could power way more than that! Want AC too?
cash dont eat to many grilled cheese and bacon sandwitches out there! you might have to use a diller hole and some tp!
@@TKCL well I can be too greedy....🤔 But a AC unit would be nice
@@AdamDeal-KF0PRI yes.... That sounds so good again 🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🫣💩 in a diller hole lmfao..... I won't dig there anymore too ahahaha 😂
@@5150cash sorry bud i had to bring up the grilled cheese and bacon
Hey nice video, I’ve got solar panel on my roof , can I use it for recharge the eco flow station ? And how ? Thanks
Yes, as long as you stay under 150 volts and 15 amps.
Appreciate all the information Andrew. Thank you
Thank you for watching
i think Will was having trouble using a pair of these to actually charge his tesla. he was able to make a bypass and get it working, but standard something didn't work. but that also could have been an older model. Anyways, great video, thanks for the info, keep at it :D
You are correct, I seen that episode. Won't be a problem for me as I have no plans for an electric car. When I mentioned EV charging in the video, I was stating you can use these at EV charging stations for a quick recharge of the unit.
@@TKCL oh, ok. i like the idea of electric, if we could focus on actually advancing our technologies i'm sure we could make great progress
Great 👍 eco flow delta pro
Great units
Great overview video. Great to see the house/shop panel integrations.
Cool that eco flow also has dual fuel generators which would be perfect for that outside plug-in.
Don’t think you’ll be able to run your dishwasher though since that would of course kick the pump in. 😀
240v is the way to go for sure when on a well.
No plans to run a dishwasher or heavy use appliance during an electrical outage. I just want to use these for critical loads like my freezers and refrigerators.
Glad I stumbled upon your channel! Thanks for all the helpful information and thorough review. Were just getting started off grid and currently researching how to power tools to start our build
Thank you for watching
I've added this to my reading list for closer analysis but my 1st observation is that I don't understand why you would need or want to roll your Ecoflow outside across the lawn to get
it close to the solar panels when you can buy mc4 solar panel cords in various lengths for about 1 dollar per foot, (40ft. or 20 ft.) I have 4 x 400 watt rigid (Renogy) solar panels (still sitting in the un-opened boxes)..and an Ecoflow Delta Pro, and that's how I intend to hook them up. The panels would be mounted on my garage and I'd run the mc4 cables about 40ft into my house into the E.D.P. I will check out your other videos to see if you did get some rigid solar panels and find out how you hooked them up to your E.D.P.
Keep in mind I had just received this for review, I used it as it came. I now have two of these units, an inside generator plug. Full solar system at my shop and 2400 watt solar array. Not to mention about 200ft of 10ga PV cable and connectors.
I was hoping to see how to get it setup for the 240v items (ex well pump)
Wish granted ruclips.net/video/rxn-cqnKuoQ/видео.html
Let me know if you have any questions
How about a multi-day continuous test. When you are without power for several days, will you drain the battery by the 2nd or 3rd day? I'm serious about solar and wind for electricity, but I have a gas generator that I have only used for a few days in the last several years due to power outages. It's hard to justify the money that a battery pack costs. At realistic use, I'm guessing my generator will easily outlast the battery pack. The generator cost 15% of what your battery pack online pricing is, and I didn't have to add solar cells to the purchase. Thanks for another wonderful video! I see you do your homework and know I can trust what you say. Keep up the great work!
I show a wide variety of content and items because we all have different tastes. I hear you about the generator, but a lot of people don't desire the gas, oil and noise. A lot of people also live where generators can't be used, HOAs, condos, high rises, high theft neighborhoods ect. These exist because there is a demand for them. I like the fact that I don't have to rely on fossil fuels that sometimes are hard to find. I experienced that years ago after a hurricane, no gas to be found anywhere and it was chaos. I'll be doing further testing of the unit and adding additional solar input.
Can you leave on the 240 volt breakers if you don't turn on any 240 volt appliances like the dryer, electric stove, or ac?
No I wouldn't, some appliances still use some power in the background.
Awesome video. That is a great way to power your house.
That Ecoflow stuff is nice as it is very much plug n play. For someone that doesn't know much about solar, or just wants a simple system it's ok, but if you get serious and want to go off grid, it is way, way too expensive. With all the roof space you have between your 3 buildings, you have ample space to go off grid. I watch 2 channels that delve into solar and off grid, and it is surprising how it haws advanced in the last few years.
If you are interested in off grid I would suggest watching DIY Solar Power with Will Prowse
, and Off-Grid Garage
. There are for sure many other channels that deal with solar, But this is a starting point.
I don't disagree with you at all, but these exist because people desire them. Some people want portability for events, off grid tools, hunting cabins, fishing shacks ect. A lot of people are not comfortable wiring and setting up multiple pieces of equipment either. This is about as plug and play as it gets. Some people want a truck, some want a sports car. Variety is the spice of life.
So that one generator will power your whole home including the central heat and air conditioning?
No, you need two for 240 volts to power a central AC. This single unit will easily power any 120 volt device in my house. I will list a video below showing two running my main AC. I am without power now after getting hit by hurricane Idalia, we are running the Delta Pros now. ruclips.net/video/rxn-cqnKuoQ/видео.html
Great video. Great information.
Thank you for watching
Can I use the 400 w panel to charge the delta 2 max generator and the delta 2 max the same time or I need 2 400watts thank you
You'd need seperarate panels to charge two units.
Great content...after working for many years in the utility industry...a couple things people don't understand is: 1-the power coming in from the utility varies but for my example 13,800 volts single phase generally comes into a "step down" transformer which converts distribution voltage to 120/240 volts that is used in a house panel etc. 2-what the general public doesn't understand without a transfer switch or inner lock device a home owner that "back feeds" from a generator through their panel to utility transformer can potentially send (for my example) 13,800 volts back onto utility distribution lines....that is done by essentially turning the "step down" transformer into "step up" transformer. Think of this way...when you use a generator improperly and you back feed voltage through a utility transformer you are essentially becoming a utility power plant...and just a disclaimer all voltage whether 13,800 volts or 120/240 volts have the potential to be deadly.
Regardless, it's a bad day for someone and not a shortcut people should take.
One of the best things I appreciate with the Delta Pro is that I can charge it using multiple ways. I cam charge it using solar panels, the Smart Generator and a whole lot more.
Excellent review! Thank you..
Thank you for watching
Tell Ecoflo that the MC4 panel connector wire size is to small for 1200 watt solar panels. The wire gets warm.
I have, future units will probably all be xt90 connections.
I intended to buy a smaller solar unit for my daughter, bust costs of shipping and customs fees are insane. I couldn't plug it, know absolutely nothing about all you've been talking about, but my son in law is an electrician and he loves his mother in law:)))
Hate to hear those aren't easily attained where you live. The small ones are life savers when the power goes out.
Very good practical application report and overview of the Ecoflow devices and their performance capabilities! I myself also own an Ecoflow and the 400 watt panel. Looking forward to more reports in this regard. I'm sure you can easily attach even larger off-road capable casters to the Delta Pro by yourself. Maybe a small Delta Pro upgrade project? ;) Thank you very much!
Little hint: The 400 watt panel can certainly be partially folded in and fixed via the eyelets on the edge to charge small devices without overloading them or you build your own quicksnap mechanism. ;)
I've been using it as a 200 watt panel myself 😉
Can you add battery banks while the delta pro is on?
Not sure what you mean. You can definitely add up to two additional 3.6 kwh batteries for larger storage capacity.
No, both units need to be off when connected.
Regarding the adapter cable... So if I connect the adapter like you did to my delta pro and then to my inlet box with interlock kit, i will get 120 volts to both legs of my panel? And 2nd question, for some reason the electrician who wired our house put the refrigerator and kitchen lights on a multi branch circuit sharing a neutral. Will this setup cause any issues with that? Thanks for any help.
Multi branch circuits are a different animal. That's old school to be honest, you might have issues running those
Surprised you lifted it up on the table since it’s 100lbs. I’d need to take mine upstairs during power outages and that’s what’s kept me from getting one
I can rather easily lift that amount of weight, you definitely notice it though.
@@TKCL dang making me feel weak. I haven’t been doing any physical work for years and moved recently and pulled the muscle in both my biceps. Trying to figure out how to get back to lifting stuff without so much pain in my arms, maybe lift this thing a few times lol
Understand that, take it easy.
Hi, Andrew! Your storehouse of knowledge amazes me. How have you learned all these skills?
Good old internet and RUclips lol.
@@TKCL lol no way!
So, could you leave the generator plugged in and leave solar panels hooked up to then run everyday like you did in this video and save electricity from the grid, but still run your 240 devices off the grid at the same time provided it is through the transfer switch. In other words save money by decreasing your grid power by using the generator?
Yes you can absolutely do that as long as you move your other loads to the transfer switch that you want powered by solar.
14:10 "haze"
Can you charge this using wind?
Not currently
A good old fashion cloths line will take care of that dryer.
Sure will and it will be used in the event of an extended outage.
Have same unit. Purchased with the plug that goes in to my home Generlink. Even if I turn off all my 240v breakers, I cannot get power to panel on any circuits. Any idea why not?
Most likely an issue with the generlink. I'm not familiar with the requirements of that.
Another great video !!!
Thank you for watching
A great starter system for those who need the same power that a Honda 2000 watt generator can provide. There are better systems for less out there (Big Battery Rhino series). And you are extremely correct on the solar input to ANY system makes all the difference. An thought on adding a micro-wind turbine to add power at night or duing a storm?
I am seriously considering wind as well. I am not sure how to tie both solar and wind to the unit with one input. I never hear of others running wind with these, always seems to be solar (which I prefer living in Florida).
And FYI this is 3600 watts continuous (can be boosted to 4500) and 7200 peak. This has a lot more power output than the Honda. Wait until you see what I've tested with it. 😉
@@TKCL Check out John Daniel (www.youtube.com/@1JOHNDANIEL). He has several videos and links for 500 to 1K watt wind generator set ups (yes they are Chinese but they do work well) for under $500. You should be able to tie in wind by adding a small charge controller or a rectifier (110V to 12V) and then charge into the solar input. Solar is fickle, no one system will fit everybody. Your system is awesome for light/medium use and portable. Here on the rural coast of Washington state, I need 7500 watts continuous, 240V split-phase, and 5 to 7 days of battery (all for less than $16,000). Looking forward to you further testing, and I can see you upgrading sooner than you think. Great information and keep up the good work!!!
Also Average Joe has a great video on the Big Battery Rhino Series (ruclips.net/video/_eonKFwvZ9s/видео.html)...
If I double up this system I can get 7200 continuous watts split phase 240v and add up to 24kwh worth of batteries. That's actually more than I think I'll need. Being in the sunshine state it's rare we go more than a day without sun. A decent amount of solar panels are needed as well and I can always charge via one of my gas generators should we have several days of no sun. I'm leaning more towards full off grid backup power and not daily use as my shop needs a dedicated 240v service with the powerful tools I run. I also have future shop upgrade plans. With as crazy as the world's getting long term off grid backup power makes me feel better. And I don't want to depend on fossil fuels either.
Cool video Andrew, really looking forward to the 240v system test video. Does your electric power company offer a deal to buy excess electricity fro. It's customers? My emc acts like we're crazy & doesn't want to give any information/help on solar panels system.
They did but that seems to be getting phased out. Takes the allure away.
, This one I like, this is realistic, I could take this out to a cabin and have a functional cabin for a while off of this so it’s a true off grid solution, you could live in the house run by 3500 W and all of them are pretty cool but Having some thing big enough that you could charge off of a generator on a cloudy day that would get you through the night is pretty cool and they should be big enough to do it, if you had a little hunting cabin up on a mountain, this could run it at a realistic level. I like it.
Absolutely this would be the perfect cabin solution as is, especially since it takes real solar input 1600 watts. I love how it is adaptable and you can build as you go. That's what I'm wanting to do, two units for 240 volts and eventually more battery storage. With a true solar array I can honestly see this taking me off grid or allowing me to span any extended outage.
I saw the Delta Pro on sale at Costco, went on RUclips and found your videos. This gave me the idea of power my sunroom partially off grid. Can one delta pro simultaneously power 1 ton 115V mini split & 25cuft refrigerator & a ceiling fan & a TV through the 30A outlet?
Hard to say, I'd have to see the amperage draw of your AC unit. Do you have that available? My gut says yes all that shouldn't be a problem.
@@TKCL The AC is TOSOT 12000btu. It draws 12.6A
That's around 1500 watts and I'd imagine that's only at startup. The refrigerator can pull a 1000 on startup and they usually settle out in the 150-200 watt range. With all that said, you appear to be just fine with power to spare. How long are you expecting this to run your equipment? Adding solar panels?
@@TKCL the refrigerator & ceiling fan are running 24/7. The AC & TV are used on demand about 6-10 hrs in a day. The Delta Pro combo came with 400W panels. I have a lot of sun in TX so my plan was to charge with solar during daylight and on AC after sundown. It wasn’t clear to me If both charging inputs are being used, which has priority? If in the situation of low batt will the AC charging automatically come on?
Wow. great information.
Thanks for watching
If I got the delta pro and 2 batteries. How many solar panels would I need. I also got the one 400w flexible panel. Any help would be appreciated.
It depends on what all you run. They max out at 1600 watts, but it's hard to get there due to voltage and amperage constraints. I have been running 1200 watts per Delta pro with good success.
I bought a Bluetti AC300 with (2) 3072Wh batteries so I'm in the same boat you are. I don't know enough to claim which brand is better but I think they are very similar. I did buy (2) 420 watt panels and they work well. I was charging around 650 watts in on a fall day. I'm considering buying another AC300 and 2 more batteries so I can generate 240 volts and 12,000 Wh and do what he is doing on this video. It's very addictive let me tell you.
Andrew great review thank you!
Thank you for watching
I want a home brew solar set up for long term power outage. You ever watch Will Prowse videos?
Sure do, he has these units and it intrigued me.
Need that for my room
You got it!
Could get a heat pump dryer, those will run off 120V but will take longer
Or propane, I've recently upgraded my propane tank to a very large one.
@@TKCL depending on price😁(it sometimes tends to double), if you're doing solar it might cover it, along with an air source Heat Pump for heating and cooling the living spaces
Clothes line is an even cheaper option 😉
River Pro's booklet says solar panels must be wired in parallel. I have 2 of their other units, and both can be wired in series. No clue why?
That makes no sense, they have a voltage and amperage rating. That's all you should have to worry about staying under.
Great video man! I'm wondering if you can power a central AC unit with 1 or 2 ecoflow delta pro. I have a 4 ton central AC unit and I want to dedicate 1 or 2 ecoflows to power it in the summer but not sure if possible. What do you recommend? thanks
One isn't possible because it only provides 120 volts. You will need two and their dual voltage hub for 240 volts. Also does your AC have a soft start capicitor? Those make a huge difference on startup surge of the compressor. I highly recommend having one added, only cost me $150. Spoiler alert, I just got a second Delta pro and I'll be testing my central AC with it. I wont have that video our for a week or two. So be looking for it.
@@TKCL I don't know if my unit has the soft start capacitor, will have to ask the hvac company who installed it. Just subscribed to your channel, can't wait to watch how you power your central AC. Thanks for replying!
Tons of solar reviews and tests coming! Building some stuff as we speak!
Wow! Great info!
What type / make fridge do you have?
Whirlpool top freezer, a very basic model. I was shocked at how little power it used.
The TV should have a setting to reduce the brightness, my 50" curved consumed about 40w on the lowest brightness... It was on an APC UPS....
How or why would you charge it from a wall outlet when in any case you'd be using this there wouldn't be any power to be able to do it?
Your thinking about one scenario. People charge these from the wall before potential outages. Some charge from an efficient inverter generator. Some charge from the wall on cloudy days. Unless you have a lot of extra batteries, it's not uncommon to use 120 volts to charge.
@@TKCL Thank you for the response that makes sense
were you running your air conditioner that day? hurricane ian took out the power to my house for 11 days and the money i spent on an airbnb with electricity is about the same price as getting a solar generator like this. i am trying to figure out what kind of solar generator i might want to buy for a several day outage that could run my refridgerator, freezer, and some fans. my mother wants air conditioning because the gas generators people use in the neighborhood are SO loud that she doesn't want any windows open. do you have any thoughts on this? thank you for this comprehensive video!
I see you found the other video.
My future setup with 1600W rigid solar panels
Im also doing the exact same
As long as the voltage if the panels is good you should be fine they will limit current and only use what they can as long as the voltage is in range you could hook up 20,000 watts and it will only do whatever the current limit is
Very true, but usually the smaller units have very low voltage and amperage maxes.
whats the price tag on that bad boy? im a radio guy and would love to have that for my setup!
They run anywhere from $3500-3800 depending on sales. Check the link I do believe they are running a sale now.
Radio as in ham radio and equipment?
@@TKCL welll yeah kinda! im in the process of studying for my license but i talk on the cb frequencies!
Great informative video. Question. If your solar array is not close to your eco generators, what kind of extended cables would you specifically need to buy? Thanks
Depends on the voltage and amperage. That can changed based on how you wire your solar array (series or parallel). Bigger is always a smarter choice, but it also depends on the length of the run as well. 10 GA minimum and go larger as amperage and distance increase. I'll be covering some of this in an upcoming video.
@@TKCL That’s where I get lost. Over the summer I bought 2 delta pro gens and 4 batteries, plus the voltage hub to connect everything. My problem is only space for solar is in back yard and my panel is in front of the house. I don’t have solar panels or transfer switch installed yet. Cuz I don’t know what the hell I’m doing, just trying to prepare!
I'm building a solar array starting next week just for my delta pro and I'll be sure to touch on a lot of this. It can get confusing. I'm looking to add a second one and the hub myself.
@@TKCL Nice bro. With eco flow panels? I need to get panels and extended cable length, or these are just expensive paper weights.
No they don't offer true always outdoor and permanent mount panels. I am going with Renogy panels.
Did your AC kick on at all thru the test
No because with a single unit I can only run 120 volt appliances. I had all 240 volt breakers off. When I get a second one I'll test all 240 volt and 120 volt appliances running.
What happens and night?
Make sure you have enough batteries to run through the night.
@@TKCL I'd like to see a 'load depletion' at night to see how fast the batteries draw down. Also, how long to recharge depleted batteries with solar only. Maybe you covered that and I just missed it? Great info. and I really liked your Gen. transfer switch video! Thanks for what you do!
I just bought the delta pro with solar panels, do you have any idea how long it takes to get 100% charged with the panels ?
Depending on sunlight, 8-10 hours in full sun.
Wow that is a long time to recharge when you have no power.
That's with the 400 watt panels. Add up to the 1600 watts max of solar and your talking 2 1/2 hours to recharge.
I bought it from qvc, pretty sure it's 1600 watts, but I will check. Thanks.
Can you opair a delta max with a delta pro?
No you can't
@@TKCL just add 2 batteries, right?
The batteries is the correct way to do it. That way you get full features and power out of the Delta pro.
4 eco flow delta pro and 6 eco flow delta pro extra smart battery 24,8 (KWH TEST IT OUT
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That's two Delta pros and 4 additional batteries. I'm sure hoping to get that set up one day. It should easily power my house with a good solar array.
What about your AC?
It's 240 volts, you need two units to make that voltage. I did test that in this video ruclips.net/video/rxn-cqnKuoQ/видео.html
Just saw this video.
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and you don’t have to worry about “sending” 400 watts. The charge controller doesn’t work that way, it’ll only
Pull what it needs to pull. You can have 1000 watts of solar and it only wants 200, it’ll only take 200. The BIGGEST thing is to make sure the voltage range is correct. That’s all.
I know a guy that has 2,500 watts of solar panels for his delta pro. Why? He got them dirt cheap used, and on cloudy days he gets near the output of max. On a pure sunny day you’ll see it’s input at exactly 1600.
That's great to hear, but I don't see how he is staying under the max voltage and amperage range on a full sunny day. 150v 15 amps max
You series / parallel them. Pretend they’re 24 volt panels. If you had 240 watt 24 volt panels. You’d put 5 in series, that’s 1200 watts. Then you’d have another 5 in series, and those two “sets” feed into an MC4 10awg Y adapter.
Analogy is your truck. It’s 12 volt and it’s dang important you stay with a “12” volt system. Not 6 like a golfcart, or 24volt like some big rigs. But you can parallel say, 4 truck batteries for 4,000 cold cranking amps.
Your truck might only need 400 of those 4,000 cranking amps, so it’ll only pull 10% of what the battery has to provide.
Same thing with solar. Voltage is crucial but amps isn’t.
I'm definitely familiar with series, parallel and series parallel. I was just adding up in my head 25 100 watt panels would be impossible to meet factory max on both voltage and amperage. Plus that uneven number of panels makes it impossible to evenly series parallel. That's also me assuming it's 100 watt panels.
@@TKCLe best is residential panels. They’re cheaper and tougher than boutique Chinese hobby brands like BougeRV or Renogy. They all have to pass UL.
Brands like Hanwha, Canadian Solar, SunPower, LG, Panasonic, Rec Solar, solarworld, etc are all great.
I got myself 35 volt 280 watt REC Solar panels used off Craigslist for $80 each. Power washed them and they look good as new.
The thing about solar you gotta watch out is as they heat up voltages sag. No biggie.
But when it’s cold, say a winter day that’s shaded by clouds, then the sun pokes out, that’s when you have a high VOC. Especially during that polar vortex. So if you used 35volt VOC panels, I’d only do 3 in series, then parallel that up.
I have 21x 280 watt panels on my roof I got for $80 each used.
@@xzibit8614 that's a great deal, I just got the new compact Renogy 100 watt panels. I was seriously considering 320 watt residential panels but have some reasons why I wanted to try the cheaper ones.
As always great video . Very interesting and got me thinking . First off I’m not a electrician so all this stuff I’m told is over my head . We have a 1700 sqft house . We heat with natural gas and cook with it . I have a 5500 watt generator with a 30 amp plug . Was told I needed a 7500 watt Gen with a 50 amp plug to run my house . I did pay an electrician to install my transfer box witch is 50 amp . I have central air and he said I can’t run my ac on a 30 amp plug ? Everything is installed and ready to but if I lose power in the summer I have no ac .maybe I just need to buy one of these units ? Ps our hot water heater is also gas and no deep freezer just one fridge . Any info is appreciated, thanks .
Depending on the size of your hvac maybe! Also a soft start capacitor makes a huge difference for generator starting. FYI a 7500 watt generator will produce no more than 30 amps usually, you'll need a way bigger generator to hit 50 amps.
@@TKCL my electrician sent me a link to a dewalt 9000/ 7500 50 amp generator at Sams Club for $849.99 . My unit is a 2 1/2 ton , it has 2x20 amp breakers on it in the breaker box . I got a Reliance 510C 120/240-Volt 50-Amp 10-Circuit
Pro/Tran 2 Indoor Transfer Switch put in . I just wanna be safe and not kill my appliances and stay cool or warm when needed . Maybe run a few lights and a radio / tv .
I bet you can run that hvac no problem as long as it has a soft start capacitor. Just don't run any other major loads while it's running. You can also add a soft start to the hvac after the fact, it's a must have item.
Also I don't recommend running the emergency heat strips on a generator that size too. If your unit is a heat pump unit run just that. I have the ability to turn off my heat strips via my smart thermostat.
@@TKCL I have a gas furnace and it’s about 2 yrs old and central air ac .
The Main Thing I think People are missing/overlooking besides the Obvious Ease of Use is the mobility factor to match the Power capabilities and taking into act. they also have a peak of 7200w and 3600-4500 running That can then Be paired With Another generator or extra Battery. As a Standalone Home or Mobile Solution it only cover so far before it gets prohibitively expensive (for me at least). as others state a will prowse diy solution in any off grid rv,camper or home is a must to Expand this things Capabilities...Luckily These systems can be fed into each other to maximize power and Savings. I envision for myself a Workshop in a Utility Trailer to be powered by this Delta Pro and (2) 400w Panels that will eventually pay for a Campervan that Tows a CamperTrailer. All of these vehicles have a limited Footprint for Solar Arrays and I think People are missing that part. how could you fit anything bigger than a 1600 watt array on a RV or School much less a Van or 16ft Trailer. An immobile Power setup can afford to be cheaper because it won't be moved nor jostled with need to be robust. Im going to get a cover for mine and see about a wheel uprgrade. Don't forget to use the Panels as water barriers when it rains as they are waterproof! thanks for the review.
The DIY plug and play, adaptability, plus portability is the big selling points for these. There are of course many other solutions out there for more permanent mounting. Wait until you see tomorrows video where I show the portable side and what all it will run. I am quite certain I powered and ran things no one else has tested.
With respect to 120 volts and using the TT30 to L14-30 with the panel interlock plate, one must also be carful to not use any MBWC (Multi Branch Wired Circuit) in your electrical panel. MBWC use a shared neutral. Although your MBWC might only be on 15 amp circuits typically found in kitchens where there are split plugs using a 14/3 AWG wire, using the TT30 to L14-30 can overload the neutral wire and cause a fire. A dedicated 120 volt transfer switch is a better solution for ONE single DP.
Very true, typically you don't find those circuits anymore but a lot of older homes do have them. I still stand by the transfer switch being the most foolproof way.
@@TKCL, Agreed. I am in Canada and my house was built in 2003 yet they still build brand new houses here with MBWC's. In fact, I just had my whole house panel swapped out last February to consolidate 2 panels smaller panels into one larger panel and the electricians still use MBWC's.
You don't see it here, we have all new breaker rules. It's become extremely expensive to add a panel now.
Why does no one use battery
Huh? I added 2 more batteries later on.
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The real test is powering your house at night to see how long the battery will last then charging it and using it during the day. It probably won’t last all night and it probably won’t charge completely to use the next night while sustaining the power needs during the day. 1200 watts solar and another battery add.
If you hang around you'll get your wish! I am building my solar array now (1200 watts) and will test that. However the real test is two units for 240 volts running absolutely everything. I know to do this continuously I'll need additional batteries. That's the great thing about this system, I can build as I go.
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For sure. I’m in the process of building out my system. I found it to be a lot cheaper to build out and put together then buying an eco flow. But I have no portability. It takes a lot of solar to charge dead batteries and power the house. I’m going 48v panels to a 12v battery system. Curious to see the next eco flow test
They all have their pluses and minuses. A DIY system can be had for cheaper and you can build as big as you like. The Ecoflow system is extremely easy to use and is plug and play for the people who don't want to wire or build a system. It's also portable for the people wanting multi use. There is no perfect system.