I’m so angry at how this detective handled the situation. There was no reason he wasn’t taken immediately to the hospital, and he wasted so much valuable time.
I swear I can't contain myself right now. I am shaking with anger. This video really got me emotional. Its absolutely despicable what that interrogator did
It doesnt even matter he is criminal or not. If a person shot in the head, reguardless of murderer or innocent, first thing a security personel should do is check the wound and if its severe like shot in the head immediately send him to the hospital. I dont know wtf is this detective doing???
I have spent the last 44 years in EMS and have never seen a law enforcement officer/department have a policy where they take someone in for questioning without medically clearing them first. This is insanity at all levels. This kids parents will own this town after the lawsuit settles.
The police officer never got any consequences at all, they somehow paid a slimy disgusting doctor with no morals enough money to say that waiting six hours after being shot had no effect on his injuries
I've been watching a lot of body cam stuff recently, and they always take people to the hospital right away even if they just yanked too hard on their cuffs.
Hearing Ryan repeat "I want to go to sleep" is haunting, knowing that it means his body is giving up, and Ryan is actually pleading for permission to die.
@@ThisGuyMelMedianot really. People feel like going to sleep in multiple medical emergencies like concussions, blood loss, hypothermia. I doubt the brain asks you to end it this way but it’s definitely not a good sign
@@zhnsheel Having dropped dead in the hospital, can confirm...that your body tries to put you to sleep so you don't die awake. It's a horrible feeling.
I read up more about the case. The more I read the more disgusted I get. The Arizona police were tampering with evidence and got lawsuit against themselves dismissed. The weasel judge agreed with the expert testimony the Arizona police gave about Ryan's condition not being made worse by the interrogation. The amount of corruption, in this case, was just insane...
Regardless if the injury was made worse from the interrogation, could he not have gotten a lawsuit for being neglected and left in intense pain? It may even be considered unlawful detainment.
@@supermadducky6287 Except its wasn't considered unlawful detainment. That's my point, the dad sued the Arizona police department. The police department got another so-called expert witness who said the interrogation did not worsen Ryan's condition. The judge agreed with the expert witness and got the case dismissed. It didn't even get to trial.
His lover had just been brutally murdered. He had a bullet in his brain. He then gets put into a room with a pathetic, low intellect bully. My heart goes out to this poor young man. My sincere condolences to those who lost a son and a daughter.
It’s presumed innocent until proven guilty,it’s just a presumption.But that is besides the fact here.That damn detective couldn’t figure a way out of a wet paper bag and he should be in jail!
The fact he obviously had a serious injury....like missing a damn eye....but they interrogated him instead of immediately taking to the hospital, is absolutely insane.
I truly believe these types of terrible decisions are a combination of evil and stupid. Even an evil person should be smart enough to realize that they will be getting in trouble for not getting him medical help. Also, if he was the perpetrator, this would have severely hurt the cops in court.
🕊️ Rest in Peace, Ryan. 🕊️ 😢 He passed in 2016 due to seizure problems connected to this. His life was ruined for 9/10 years with constant seizures until he passed away. He had to lose part of his brain with the operation. He had been a hardworking young man before this took place. He was grocery shopping when he had his last seizure and never made it. This PI$$ED off a lot of people!! I'm actually angry and outraged again now seeing this today. They delayed serious treatment by this prolonged 💩 interrogation!! UTTER DISGRACE & INCOMPETENCE!!
4:38 I have to stop watching. I’m a nurse and this makes me ill…police have basic medical training. Ryan has an obvious head injury and isn’t coherent. This is so sad. RIP Ryan.
@@Pegasus2020right? The cop hears that he got punched in the face. That and the awful bruise on his face should be enough for the cop to think "hmm maybe we should check this out"
As a med student, I felt bad. He showed many clear signs of brain damage, from pain, doziness, causeless overwhelming state, confusion in perceiving information and speaking… Being a suspect or not, they should be still allowed to get emergency healthcare when in endangered state. Those cops and detective deserved to be punished for being so ignorant
As a previous high school athlete, he showed many clear signs of brain damage. Our yearly required concussion protocol that no one pays attention to and lasts 15 minutes got the point across that everything he was displaying was a brain injury. You have to be like an infant child who hasn't experienced the world yet to not notice the clear signs in this situation
As a good person or a student this detective needs to be imprisonned and the if the suspect got brutal injured the suspect needs to get the medical cares if they want to talk about it, why they wont go to the hospital and talk it them. This is too cruel poor dude
You have to understand, the average cop basically only knows two things: how to interrogate and how to punch their spouse/partner. Asking them to learn how to do a third thing would be simply too much cognitive load for them to handle. They would probably have a stroke just trying. That's why they irrationally fear fent; anything that isn't assaulting a spouse or mistreating a suspect only generates an extreme emotional response. If you end up working in an ER, you'll learn what I mean.
I don't understand how a "detective" that doesn't even contemplate that a suspect that is mumbling, incoherent, disperse, sleepy, stressed out, with a huge red mark on his face, and saying he was shot in the eye, could actually be telling the truth, can even be called a detective. I don't understand how he can be called anything but a moron for that matter.
You can see that Bryan had an enjured eye why wasn't he checked at the hospital? The detective should have notice this being so close to him you can see gun powder burns plus black eye give me a break. Hope this experience will teach him and other law imforcement officers to do the right thing.
@@gaysy1st Yeah probably but thats just incompetence and IMO criminal incompetence since a person died that might have lived. If you become an police officer you have certain rights but also duties and if you cant fullfill them than dont become one in the first police or change your job since you putting other lifes in danger (as you can see in this cases) He should be charged at least with something "negligence that results in death" Im pretty shure that or something similar exists in the USA. but probably nothing will come out expect a soryy and 2 weeks paid/unpaid vacation at most
Yeah I mean his job usually is to find out about things that people rather not have uncovered. And here, he failed to even recognize something that was in plain sight AND the victim showed clear signs of being injured.
How crazy is that detective? You can clearly see the injury to this young man's eye. He told the cops he was shot, but they don't call an ambulance???! This is insane... I swear it makes you wonder how some people even make it past the police academy.
Can you imagine being this young man's parents and watching this? I don't know how anyone who loved this guy didn't go psych on these officers. This is heartbreaking.
AGREED and I'm wondering if they're just waiting it out a little bit before bringing the karma wrath down! Not gonna lie kind of hoping that's the case because this is monstrous of these corrupt "law men"
@@bbllaakkeeee yeah I’d think that would make em think twice about toying with peoples lives. But then again some of these cops and criminals for that matter are sick individuals so who knows
If this happened to my son, besides suing the crap out of that so-called detective and the department, I'd go on a personal revenge spree. I kid you not 😡
7 mins in I'm already witnessing cognitive, emotional, behavioural & communication symptoms of brain trauma! 30yrs OR & ER career! This police force needs to be held account! Beyond DISGUSTING - ABHORRENT!
It's so obvious, you don't even need a medical background. It's so obvious he has an issue with his brain, that it's not alcohol or drugs, and that he should not be questioned until checked by doctors. It just blows my mind.
This broke my heart. . . An innocent kid, who was attacked, unprovoked, essentially died because some moron couldn't see the painfully obvious signs of brain trauma. I'm not anti-cop, but man does this break my heart. The people that you trust to uphold the law and protect human life, is the reason an innocent life was eventually lost. Rest in peace Ryan.
I'm near in tears watching this. I fell SO bad for this young man. This is just awful. His family should sue the police department and the specific officer who interrogated him.
Ehhh I would not go that far. They showed up to his place and shot him and killed his girl over some past altercations. You saw those guys. He associates with or crossed those dudes somehow and they did all that as a retaliation? I'm guessing this kid isn't exactly a "nice guy".
Because the detective has a career which involves dealing with inhuman people ALL THE TIME and at that moment in time Ryan , being the boyfriend and living there, was the prime suspect and usually prime suspects who end up guilty lie through their teeth. It was the detective's job to get the truth, he's not a doctor
This is completely surreal. Every single officer that was involved and didn't give him any medical attention should get fired and be in prison for negligence.
I'm an EMT and we've been called to check out someone (yes even suspects) if they have bruising going on. How no one got this poor man to the hospital is not only negligent but heartless.
To add, also as an EMT, I've seen people with 9mm holes in their head walking around and having a chat. This cop has only a movie understanding of gunshots.
@@anaussieplays763 Currently dying from Stage 4 Rheumatoid Arthritis here in Tassie My Guy. Zero treatment from the medical industry. I even asked the authorities for help. No pain medication, nothing. I am now at the point where I just want my body to die already. The medical industry here in Australia is full of Patels My Guy. What would you know? I've only had 40+ years taken from me.
@@anaussieplays763 Australia...you all had concentr...er I mean quarentine camps, lo. So shut it. :P Tazing lil 12 year olds for not wearing masks outside, LMFAO...
Rip Ryan and Heather it's sickening to think that someone would shoot another person over an argument and the fact that after saying you were shot in the head you don't get medical attention, evil world we live in
I totally agree, it's a terrible world, everyday is just full lots of bad news. Its just getting worse with violence in this world. I can't believe the detective didn't notice Ryan was having severe health problems. What an asshole. Poor Ryan
Shocking how easily one person bullying or beating someone can effect the care they receive elsewhere, part of ptsd and ongoing trauma, see it every day, and is the biggest way that abusers have to get away with their crimes for so long. First on the scene with the police should have been an ambulance due to the dead body they found which might not even have been dead at that time, plenty of people get shot and live also! What were children that age doing living away from home anyway, they could have been stolen or trafficked or lost in the system or anything 😔
No tunnel vision, they know he's not right! There's no accountability. Get guilty admission, less work even if not accurate, then qualified immunity protects ya
After some googling it seems the family pressed charges but the case was dismissed but the family along with an expert brain surgeon think it was “corrupted” due to the police realizing the brain surgeon was about to testify
Cops are happy to interrogate suspects that need medical treatment. Which is against protocol apparently... They should be taking him to the hospital to get checked out first, but they get better results for talking to people who are suffering. It mostly happens with drug addicts going through withdrawal. Even if you ask for a lawyer they'll keep interrogating you before the lawyer comes, which is also not legal...
@RE: NEKO If Ryan was brought to the hospital right away the doctors could have stopped the bleeding and stop the brain swelling thus reducing the damage to his brain. Ryan suffered seizures throughout ten more years and died from it.
@@naimaboukhouf There's only somebody telling about the case, not showing any other bad things... But it's so scary and sad that this kind of things can happen..
Ha! Thats how US system works. You wouldn't believe the ammount of people they put words in their mouth, lie and literally torture with sleep or mental deprevation. Or take plea deals because they have no money to go to court, or are lied to so they take the deal.
@@bretagnejean2410 and that's how it should be done. Innocent or criminal with that physical condition they should take him to hospital first and let him recover first before anything else.
@@xKillYourTVx If you think something like this couldn't have happened in most nations, it's clear you've never been outside of the US, and have no idea how good you have it. Prisoner treatment is much worse in most parts of the world.
I was a trauma nurse and police have brought detainees in to be medically cleared for much less than this. The police should have taken him to the ER first for clearance, especially if he looks that way and says he was shot in the eye. This is why cops get a bad rap unfortunately. It’s appalling.
The cop in this video mocks him for saying he was shot in the eye and goes "What, with a BB gun?" Holy effing shit. Even that was the case, it would mean that the guy needs to be checked by medical professionals ASAP. Like getting a BB through the eye isn't something that warrants instant medical attention. Given that the guy looks the way he does, it's utterly inhumane to not allow him instant access to a doctor and a checkup. Even a murder suspect doesn't deserve getting blind in one eye through police neglect.
It's really crazy how he said "You'd most likely be dead" stating the fact that someone would usually die but that there is a rare chance someone survives as Ryan did.
In all fairness, what are the chances you happen to speak to someone face to face that got shot through his eye, went through his head and managed to survive? Although, I do not understand why he wasn't medically checked before the interrogation. Shame on the officer and deperatment.
This is a dangerous mindset of going into an investigation WITHOUT an open mind. He heavily suspected Ryan of killing Heather after being bashed in the eye and stuck to his guts, no matter how Ryan is reacting and what was said. He only wanted Ryan to admit to what he thinks is the scenario. This detective should genuinely not work ever again as this may put other innocent people to jail in other cases
Investigators when interrogating you already believe your guilty and are just trying to get a confession from you. It’s very possible that this detective just like many other detectives saw this person as a guilty person and thought he was faking his injury or faking symptoms.
@@Abcq755 That's kinda like, extremely difficult when you're as.. dazed, as the man in this video was. I know because I'm in a somewhat-similar state when I have seizures. Very susceptible to interrogation and gaslighting tactics like this.
The cops on scene and meds missed it and the booking in officers. The detective called the EMT 18 minutes after talking to him and they arrived 15 mins later. He’d been shot 48 hrs prior to the police arriving at his house then sat in a police car for 5 hours before being transported to the police station, booked in then interviewed. The detective was the last one in the chain of probably ten officers that missed it
How on earth could the police not have had Ryan checked out first?!?!! Just look at that bruising around his eye and listen to his confusion! I can almost feel his pain. I am horrified this young man died due to law enforcement’s negligence. Heartbreaking....
well one thing to lighten the ordeal a bit. even though it was total bullshit he wasn't sent to the hospital for a checkup first. he did apparantly get shot 2 or 3 days before the interrogation. he'd been walking around with a bullet in his head for that long.
@@cameronlikesbugs 90% of gunshots to the head are fatal. Thank you for making my point! That’s all I’m trying to say, gunshots to the head usually (90%) kill, so why are so many people so quick to believe him? A gunshot to the head doesn’t usually (90%) involve the victim talking to investigators.
@@cameronlikesbugs So, why not assume then that he, Ryan maybe is one of the 10% who survive? There are cases who survive we know, and 10% is pretty big number anyway! Too big to neglect it and to not check it up; for the sake of safety and security!
The fact that the dude was shot straight in the eye and the detective took that long to figure it out really says a lot about how good of a detective he is
That was my thought as well. How good of a detective can this guy be, if he can’t figure out, within the first 5-10 minutes of listening to Ryan not making sense at all and in combination with the way his face looks, that Ryan seems to have a serious head injury? Or maybe he (“detective”) was thinking, “Maybe I can get him to confess, while he is still out of it from getting beat up. Heck as long as I don’t forget to read him his rights, everything goes, right?!”
His tactic was torturing him for a long time having to go through booking first handcuffing him not giving him any medical attention or food to get him to “tell the truth” because of a statistic that says the boyfriend or girlfriend is usually the killer.
I really thought the police officers were trained to read people and their behaviors. How can the list officer even think 9f bringing him to the station rather than the Hospital
His voice is slurred, he's holding his head, his answers are dazing, he says he's not feeling well, he literally has a giant injury to the head, what reason is there not to take him to the hospital? This was so unprofessional and I hope the interrogator lives his life bearing the guilt that he is the reason this man died, especially considering the way he was treating him previously.
You viewers, are biase BECAUSE now afterwards you know the truth. DETECTIVE did not know. He is suspect and he is not giving obviously signs of emergency needed. All he says is IM SLEEPY 1:40 its not obviously, you say so because you know the context afterwards 5:46 its clear To you now but not then 9:30 yes it does, and the suspect is just repeating childish escape thoughts. He is not telling he is In pain but sleepy! 12:18 He talks shy He isnt believable In emergency He is suspect 2:38 3:14 yes he looks down To him, thinking he is imbesil 3:40 he is on drugs or mental 4:50 now we know its head trauma but without that Knowledge you know what this seems, he is suspect 6:19 yea what did he do To get heather hit him and then he shot her - Police thoughts 6:37 7:00 "you are all beat up" 7:28 now he tells what happened, why not first? So did heather hit me before the shooting for real 8:40 should have started from that if there wasnt brain trauma 10:50 11:53 XD
You are unprofessional He could be mental, on drugs or imbesil trying To avoid guilty by "I just wanna go home To sleep" Detective did not have the context then that you have now, your biase is alarming
@@sheeringobject ok "pro", tell us whats so bad about getting the guy to the hospital first and THEN interrogate? I would love to see you in the same position and then hear your professional opinions afterwards, with half a brain and seizures.
@@sheeringobject The fact that the officer didn't know is more than enough reason to get him checked by a doctor. So that going forward they would know wether it was drugs, injury, acting or whatever.
This guy's girlfriend was murdered, he got shot in the eye and he was interrogated by what it seems like the least competent detective there is. Sometimes life is just too damn cruel.
I’m just so confused like isn’t the first thought when you see a victim who has been shot to bring them to a hospital isn’t that what they usually do so why in the fuck was he being interrogated after being shot? I’d love to know because it’s bs.
@@hayleygalati9914 fr they act like he's the criminal instead of the victim who seriously got shot in the eye. couldn't the 'interrogater' know he'd been shot if he had a whole ass wound on his face??
Unprofessional police. Asking, "You ever seen a cop show?" says it all. Detective thinks he's in a cop show, not in real life, with a guy dying in front of him.
You are exactly right! This story breaks my heart, that poor man. Prayer for the victims families. I hope the father and son have the day they deserve.
Brain dead detectives assumed that because heather was dead on the couch, and he was the only other one home, they assumed he killed her. Which resulted in him being treated as a suspect. Exactly why detectives and cops like this need to be reprimanded, and stripped of their badge. They dont deserve to be on the force. This should be criminal.
What a sweet and patient man. This is so hard to watch. I can’t imagine how hard it was for him to feel the vibration of his own voice as well as the detectives.
The fact that the officer was more intrigued on getting him arrested and prosecuted looking over the fact that he needed a doctor is just disgusting and disappointing. That young man would be alive today if they did their job correctly. May he RIP. 😢
Well technically Ryan took his own life. So not taking him to hospital wasn’t the reason he died, but he still might of died eventually because of it anyway though. Still he should’ve been to hospital quick.
@@megashadow3789 My mistake. The video said one took his own life, So I thought that was his name. Instead of saying he died from the seizure. I’m use to people saying what they died of. Either way I did agree that the cop should’ve took him to medical right away. Either way thanks for pointing out my mistake. I misunderstood what guy meant on video
Exactly what I said. In such a hurry to get to the bottom of what happened trying to get him to admit he done it. Isn't Detectives trained in looking for clues by watching body language? I don't think the man passed and remind me never play charades with him! The guy was doing his best to put a sentence together for him to understand and he didn't think that was odd?? I watched this on Mr. Ballen channel a few months back. I didn't remember he passed away 😢
As soon as the kid started waffling about bow and arrows and then revolvers and his recollection of the events changing so drastically, this detective should've realised he was being serious about being shot in the eye. Even before he entered the interrogation room they should've assessed his injuries and realised sooner he needed medical attention. Truly disgusting. I hope that detective lives with those memories and how he cared more about a prosecution than a young man with a gunshot wound to the face no less.
maybe they are desensitized because they hear all kinds of stupid stories everyday from criminals that make up things just to get away with their crimes. that's my guess here.
Every time Ryan said "I don't know" you could feel how genuine and honest he was being, how could the detective not at least considerate that he really might not be doing well..
This video is a reupload, it's stolen from another channel. mrballen or explore with us channel had this footage. Not fair, not even mentioning the channel you take from is just poor!
To be fair, acting doesn't have to mean simulating. At that point, it sounds like he means it as "his actions indicate brain damage", although that obviously doesn't excuse the detective's previous actions. I rewatched it after commenting, and he even says "which would make sense". Nothing about faking it.
@@ericforsythI would argue that “acting” definitely comes with the connotation of behaving in a way that isn’t genuine. “Behaving like someone with brain injuries would” is a much better neutral substitute for “acting.”
@@Deathranger999 Connotations vary with culture. It's plausible yours is closer to his, and that the word carries similar connotations to him, and it's not like he's earned the benefit of the doubt here, but a lot of people at least would not interpret that as accusations of malingering
I mean really!! Aren't they supposed to have a trained sense of perception and deduction. This guy is a fraud and a cheat in my book. I hope he got fired
@@MrDerpy-ns6sy That's the thing. They do not get that training. They are trained to find self-incriminating evidence. They are not trained to find the truth. Sure, I hope he got fired, but things won't change, unless they train their police men to actually investigate, instead of making up their own truth from the beginning.
Exactly the same terminology I used. "Torture" Pisses me off, to be frank. I hope somethings done about this. Edit: Im not one to cry at most sad things, but after hearing he suffered a brain infection and couldnt live a "normal life" after, I immediately broke into tears. Why such a bull-headed/ predatory behavior was taken by the detective and this young man, hell, still a fucken kid, didn't receive medical care right away, I don't know, but I think we need a slightly higher "bar" for people who are supposed to be providing critical intelligence for us.
You don't need an MD to know that people survive gunshot wounds. There are extensive lists of people who survive gunshot wounds, any hunter knows that bullets aren't magical death seeds. That cop is a certifiable idiot.
@@brendagreenelsh3167Yeah. it took his life because of this slow, retarded, psychotic and under qualified “detective” has a mind of a braindead 3 year old and couldn’t tell the VICTIM was in deep stress and was suffering from physical trauma
I can't imagine how a "professional" have the capacity to look at someone's face for 56 minutes, and still be that blind to don't see bullet wounds or imagine that he's brain isn't ok.
I honestly would’ve started crying. I can’t imagine how it would feel to be asked all sorts of questions with barely being able to answer them while your whole head is hurting. I feel so sorry for him.
He probably couldn’t cry with the brain damage, he just kept saying he wanted to go to sleep. He even said that he wanted to let Heather sleep after getting shot. He probably couldn’t process anything emotional. Just confused, tired, and in pain. That department should’ve been sued to hell and the detective should’ve been charged with gross negligence and fired.
Imagine your brain slowly getting slower, thoughts getting harder to form, your whole conscience dematerializing while you are awake and you have no idea why is this happening. This is truly one of those pretty much unbeatable hard scenarios.
@@sheeringobject You are saying he didn't get help because he didn't say that he needed help?? He got shot in the face, had brain damage you absolute idiot
STOP bullying and harming innocent and helpless children!!! - Because it's creating such harmed people that the majority, of which likely you are a part of, are too harmed to tell how harmed you all are!!!
Also for context Ryan was completely innocent. His apartment was broken into. He was shot twice in the head and lost consciousness. His girlfriend was shot and killed by the perpetrators. When Ryan awoke, he was in such a poor mental state from his injuries that he thought his girlfriend was simply asleep on the couch when she was actually dead. When her parents hadn't heard from her, they called police for a wellness check I think. And that's when they found her and took Ryan into custody. There's several videos about this case. Edit: I probably got a few of the details wrong but I do remember seeing a video on this case and from what I remember Ryan was most definitely innocent.
Just to clarify he died 10 years afterwards of a seizure but still could have been prevented if timely care was provided. He was blind and had multiple seizures unfortunately succumbed to one in 2016 this incident happened in 2005.
Him saying “I just want to go to sleep” and “I want to go back to bed” should be all the cop needs to hear to realize he’s serious. That’s a man who is slowly losing consciousness.
I don’t think someone with brain damage is gonna be able to tell you what happened last night. The fact this guy was able to talk at all already is a miracle. I feel like the detective was just straight up bullying/neglecting care, why isn’t that a crime?
What an inexcusable tragedy. Hearing him and watching him hold his head and try his best to answer questions while slowly succumbing to the brain injury is devastating.
@@steffenjonda8283 family sued but case was dismissed aka clear manipulaton of the system when there is clear negligence of ryan having an exit would in his head
@@tbdrako752 Could you explain your logic here? Since when does hero is related to not dying or being dead ? 🤷 Hero definition 1: a person who is admired for having done something very brave or having achieved something great. Hero definition 2: a person noted for courageous acts or nobility of character Hero definition 3: a person admired for achievements and noble qualities Hero definition 4: Any person who has heroic qualities or has performed a heroic act and is regarded as a model or ideal. the list goes longer than that...
@@tbdrako752 Because succesfully identifying two murderers after witnessing the death of his lover, all with a bullet in his skull, while suffering immense pain and permanent brain damage isn't an "act of courage" or "doing something brave" Sure its not like they gonna build a statue out of the kid, but you just out here disrespecting this dead kid who had brain damage and trauma. Unbelievable.
This is the saddest thing. I certainly hope that detective was brought up on charges. Ryan should've been transported to the hospital before stepping foot in a police station. I cannot imagine the suffering he went through. This young man might still be here today if it wasn't for the ass holes who shot him and that detective. Rest in Peace Ryan and Heather.
Detective was SO trying to place the blame on Ryan for killing his girlfriend when he didn't even want to believe that the kid had been shot in the eye, "Nevermind this little story of Richie and his dad coming in and attempting to murder them both, this kid must've done it and is trying to blame someone else. Who cares if he's faking pain, I'm gonna lock him up." - This detective needed to have his license revoked, publicly shamed, and fired. I hope this eats at you until your end.
The detective is not a doctor, since he was injured, the doctor should look at him first and only then should he be interrogated. On the other hand, he only looks like he's been beaten up, not shot.
The fact that he has a serious brain injury and it took him like 15-30 minutes to recall what happened to him, but took the interrogator a full hour to take a look at his face is astonishing to me
This is the entire world for you now bro. Unfortunately, it's not just the USA that has deteriorated to this state. Most of the Western world has sadly degraded into nearly socialist levels of incompetence and Tyranny.
This case was so sad. This young man died ten years later from a seizure that was a result of his injury. I can't even imagine what he must have gone through.
@FirstLast-hs4gw accurate assessment. It's heartbreaking when you learn, after watching the interrogation, that he had taken a bullet to the head, and had been in that state for at least 24 to 48 hours before the interrogation took place. I do hope something was done about the officer who interrogated him. Thank you for your service by the way. My grandfather was a police officer and later police chief before he passed away.
tbh most of him died that day because of that detective. Withholding treatment led to him being permanently brain damaged, and he could even be alive and himself right now if this 'detective' had any intelligence.
My uncle had a fight with police yrs ago and didn’t realize he was shot in the face until like a week later, he came by my mom house and told us he was fighting the police and that’s the reason his face was swollen, my mother look closer and told him boy you got shot and took him to hospital my uncle was wild, he didn’t die from that but he passed away 30 years later from overdose
@@fancen no he wasn’t, he fought for are country and just like every veteran that risk they’re life for this country are treated like nothing when they return home, no support from our country, so yeah most veterans come home different than when they left.
that’s so sad. the reason he wanted to “sleep” is because his brain was trying to let him die. he didn’t know that heather was dead and he thought she was just asleep because of the brain trauma. brought me to tears. that detective is an idiot. :(
Yeah I had a really hard brain trauma and basically you skip around from thought to thought, you just want to sleep and if you do you will probably die but not always. Then you have these moments of clarity but you have to be walked along step by step with the truth. So lets say you were hit by a car and they said "A white car hit you?" youd skip to the truth of that and talk about it, then they might say somehting like "yellow" and "yeah and she has a yellow one", and they will be like "a yellow what?" and then you just dont know what they are talking about cause they said yellow not you, if they knew your memory they could keep you coherent all night like "Yeah she has a yellow bag?" and youd be like "yeah she does, she keeps her stuff in it", so if the cop had of said "so they got you in a sleeping hold, a headlock" he would have been like "yeah" and given more details.
yeh hubby had an aneurysm clot in his brain but we didnt figure out that was the issue for a couple days, at first honestly though it was just a blazing migraine cause he was passing all that kind of "stroke test" stuff. eventually tho it starts shifting his thinking sidewas. long long story but the short point of it is when we saw this initial interrogation we were both like "oh my god. hes got a concussion or someone DID shoot this guy in the head". originally watched a much longer clip of this and i still cant bear to watch it again. it made my husband absolutely sick to his stomach because even though when he tries to recall he can't remember being in that dreamy state when he heard this kid he recognized it immediately :( heartbreaking. And the flipping details thing, (something that happend to someone else, saying it happened to you) -- my mother was doing that the week before she passed in hospice. So if you said "I bumped my knee" there was a chance she would say "I bumped my knee" and echo / reflect it, then insiste it was she who did it, etc. Yes, dying brain matter stuff, as she was passing slowly, yeah, we were watching this poor kid dying on camera. just.. this whole thing was terible :(
Ryan Waller did receive the help needed, but it was too late as he went blind and suffered seizures for the rest of his life. Few years later, he passed away from a seizure.
@@napinkpa Perhaps, but not right away. As a RN & with all my knowledge & experience this young man.. had he received Immediate care & surgery, he might've been alive today still. In situations like this TIME is of the essence!!
No, not the cruel and messed up world in which we live. The police detective is responsible for this man's death. He was showboating for a video camera in hopes of getting on TV -- like 48 Hours or something. Disgusting. I hope Ryan's family sued the pants off of whatever hick town PD or SO this happened.
It’s not like that, he just had enough experience as an interrogator that he assumed he was lying. Because really every criminal lies during interrogations right?
Ryan’s father sued the Phoenix Police Department, and the interrogator who dealt with Ryan was charged with evidence tampering and fabricating stories about events to do with the case.
It truly was so cruel, I wonder if that officer even felt remorse and at-least attempted to apologize to him and his family. Whoever chose to drive him to the precinct instead of the hospital is also responsible.
I am sorry that Ryan was dead that was caused by one man who was supposed to serve the victim with hospital care. I wish that Ryan did not make even one sound to that detective.
Inability to exhibit hatred and violence without psychosexual motive is atypical of virgins in every species, and the leading cause of rookie cops choking under pressure. As some men would say their balls have yet to drop. He will continue to chase after dead princesses rather than saving a life. You have to be cracked and redpilled maybe even taken a bullet just to get a semblance of based intuition.
Every time I hear this story, is literally enrages me. Even if Ryan was the one who shot Heather, he very obviously needed medical treatment. That he sat there with that enormous wound in his eye and the detective did nothing to help him is outrageous. I hope he feels guilty about it until the day he dies.
I hope more happens than him feeling guilty. If someone tells you they've been shot in the fucking eye and they're clearly delirious they need to go to the hospital and if you hold them from it for an hour you need to receive criminal charges
@@freddyfish835 I fail to see how this is a sane response to this comment. Like this is a clear cut and dry case of negligence on the behalf of the detective, so what does this brain-dead whataboutism even serve to accomplish? Are you saying that people with little to no medical training should be able to decide whether or not someone in their custody should receive medical care? Being interrogated does not strip a person of their basic human rights, even if all evidence points to them being guilty. POWs get treated better than this, this level of negligence is basically akin to manslaughter, and the detective and the officers who picked him up should be stripped of their positions, blacklisted from joining any other force, and face their due justice for what they did to Ryan
@freddyfish835 Yes. To your ? yes they do. Regardless if he was shot with a bullet, bb or marshmallow, he was clearly injured through the eye. Any sane person without agenda would see the man was not right mentally probably because of the hole in is head. Officers and dectives routinely question suspects in the hospital. This Dept got away with murder.
Ryan was treated a lot worse than just the lengthy interrogation. He was in custody for hours at the scene, and wasn't provided medical help by any of the "heroes" at the scene. Their infallible "gut instincts" told them Ryan was the guy, so they chose to mistreat him, because he was, in their eyes, a murdererer. Even if they didn't know he was shot, they still had a duty to get him medical attention, and they chose not to.
People tend to view folks in prison as sub-human and there for punishment, not rehabilitation. Most of these same people tend to view people merely arrested in association with a crime as being guilty. If you combine these things you're surrounded with hostile, bitter people who assume things are true without knowing the facts and wanting people to suffer.
In the vast majority of cases, it is the boyfriend that kills the girlfriend, But it's not 100%, and this case is why can't just assume. They basically killed this kid by trying to play tough-guy cops who "know better". Idiots.
This detective was very well aware he wasn't okay, he thought he was gonna get a gold star pulling a confession out of this kid by taking advantage of it. Sick stuff.
That makes the detective doubly stupid, cuz such a confession would be wholly inadmissible due to the guy's extreme injury impairing his brain functions. He'd be doing all that work, effectively killing the guy, for nothing. I hope he's a pariah in that county.
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 I have no doubt this particular officer is dumb as rocks bc duty of care still exists.. even in America. He shouldn't have spoken to him at all without him being checked over let alone gone full interrogation mode on him in his condition
He could be mental, on drugs or imbesil trying To avoid guilty by "I just wanna go home To sleep" Detective did not have the context then that you have now, your biase is alarming
@@sheeringobjecthad fun spreading this shit through tonnes of comments? Shame you're WRONG because not only can you not spell, but this has nothing to do with bias. You see the camera footage before the interrogation even starts, and you don't need to be a professional to see that something is very wrong. What you're doing is victim blaming. I don't wish bad things on people, but your ignorance is so astounding that you just might warrant it.
This literally made me sick to my stomach. This "detective" is a killer who didn't pull the trigger. Whoever was in charge of this whole case deserves to go to jail for not sending Ryan to the hospital IMMEDIATELY. Ryan's family needs justice for the Phoenix police department killing their son.
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@@kawan3661really... some rando copies and pastes some quote from the bible and ya like oh praise da loooord Geeesus... why on earth would you... if gods so good why did he allow an innocent man to suffer and die, whilst his killers have free health care, food and shelter forever... at tax payer expense, im not judging religion, well i am, but my point here is why on earth would you bring god here... judging by thid video if god exists hes an a hole
ER nurse here. This is beyond disturbing and disgusting. Even someone with no medical knowledge would know this boy needed immediate medical attention. This is heartbreaking. Im so angry. I hope that detective and anyone else involved paid dearly for this.
too bad the only case where they will pay for this is if some vigilante civilian goes out there and delivers justice. and we know that will never happen. and we know nothing will happen. just have to hope hes living the rest of his days in fear cuz people know and have seen what he did, and one day one of those persons might walk into him on the street
If common sense was a lot more common today we wouldn't be having near as much of the nonsense we're seeing today. I'm just glad I grew up in the country around farms before I moved on to a small town before I hit the city.
"If you been shot in your eye you should have been dead" That is disgusting they don't even give him any benefit of the doubt they instantly think he's lying
@@goober4103 it wouldn’t have mattered he had a clear panda/racoon eye was repeating words and using the incorrect terminology to explain a situation aka bow and arrow as posed to revolver highlighting an issue with speech. He had also advised his behaviour was not normal for him and that he had passed out, he also advised of what had happened and was clearly distressed. Even though he was handcuffed to the table several times throughout the video he behaved as though he had forgotten this fact. Their was a clear indication he had some sort of internal bleeding and severe head trauma requiring immediate medical attention. A swollen eye is not an excuse enough for the delay in medical care.
This guy being there with brain damage, speaking clear as water to the detective about what he witnessed. It was like a chat with the afterlife. Yet this detective wasted this miracle with his accusations. It's a shame that he wasn't treated like a human being and sent to a hospital. Rest in peace, Ryan. You were a fighter.
I don’t blame the interrogator. It looks like he was just punched in the eye, he probably thought heather hit him and he shot her. Doesn’t help the story changed multiple times from bow and arrows to revolvers.
I've watched this video a couple times and my heart goes out to this guy and his family. What an ordeal to go through and then be treated like a criminal and a liar.
Do the math, how did his girlfriend die if it was a bebe gun?!? He should have just stopped talking to them. If they refused to listen to what catered to his well being. Some folk (regardless of their age and overall experience) just don't know how to put 2 and 2 together........much less listen to what is true or makes sense. They're so thirsty to be right, that their ego puts them in a stupor. Only to look and feel exactly like how their ego desires to make them look and feel.
I cant imagine what Ryan was going through while being badgered by this bone head detective. Even not knowing he had a bullet lodged in his brain it was painfully obvious he had a very serious eye injury and should be in the hospital. It's totally outrageous that they kept him there for hours with an untreated injury like that.
@@Feldraum useless because there are comments that shed light on topics and try to feel the pain of the person behind the video, then someone comes along “Oh WeLL yOu KnOw tHe BuLLEt went right thrOuGh him, tHeY rEalLy sAiD that” idk it just comes off the wrong way.
I’m so angry at how this detective handled the situation. There was no reason he wasn’t taken immediately to the hospital, and he wasted so much valuable time.
The detective killed that young man just as sure as the guy who pulled the trigger.
Because of that bum , he became disabled and else , died 10 years later❗
I saw that story long ago .
That so called "detective" should be fired immediately then❗And criminally prosecuted , but only after losing their immunity... cop's protection❗
THAT POS POLICE OFFICER ONLY CARED ABOUR HIS INVESTIGATION BUT DID NOT CARE ABOUT HIS SO CALLED "SUSPECTS" HEALTH!
im disgusted.
The fact that they treated him like he was the criminal instead of the victim is appalling to me, its disgusting.
I swear I can't contain myself right now. I am shaking with anger. This video really got me emotional. Its absolutely despicable what that interrogator did
It doesnt even matter he is criminal or not. If a person shot in the head, reguardless of murderer or innocent, first thing a security personel should do is check the wound and if its severe like shot in the head immediately send him to the hospital. I dont know wtf is this detective doing???
That cops a idiot and need to be fired and brought up on charges
even the criminal, in the situation he was in, should be given medical attention first
@@RemNB exactly because if he was the killer. he can't confess if he's dead
I didn't know torture was legal in America. That cop that was interrogating him deserves life in prison too.
IN AMERICA. CIA IS INTERNATIONAL...
Yep this scum bag cop (like most in America today) needs to go to prison for a long time
@@CoreyKing-or5sn CIA is an American agency you idiot.
if police can get away with murder then they can get away with this.
Qualified immunity is still strong
@@CoreyKing-or5sn hahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhahahahhahahha
wait you serious?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The fact that he kept saying he wanted to go back to sleep seemed like a sign of the head trauma. This whole thing was ridiculous. RIP to him.
Exactly my thought. With the eye injury so obvious, I would have called EMTs. More I see, angrier I’m getting. 😢😢😢😢
@@Nanadina51I know, That eye looks horrific! WTF! Only 18!
yeah when i saw "i'm tired i wanna go to sleep" i'm like uh dude has an issue that needs looked at... but no, detective couldn't detect a problem
@@Vanessa-mo9ixwhile he did die at 28 it’s sad that he had live such a life of pain
I have spent the last 44 years in EMS and have never seen a law enforcement officer/department have a policy where they take someone in for questioning without medically clearing them first. This is insanity at all levels. This kids parents will own this town after the lawsuit settles.
apparently by the comments the detective got away with it and is still working and the family wants the case reopened
The police officer never got any consequences at all, they somehow paid a slimy disgusting doctor with no morals enough money to say that waiting six hours after being shot had no effect on his injuries
I've been watching a lot of body cam stuff recently, and they always take people to the hospital right away even if they just yanked too hard on their cuffs.
Corrupt police department from bottom to top...
@@tanyabrown9839that detective should watch out, as there are so many types of people
Some of them would want him dead
Hearing Ryan repeat "I want to go to sleep" is haunting, knowing that it means his body is giving up, and Ryan is actually pleading for permission to die.
That’s too deep…
@@ThisGuyMelMedianot really. People feel like going to sleep in multiple medical emergencies like concussions, blood loss, hypothermia. I doubt the brain asks you to end it this way but it’s definitely not a good sign
@@zhnsheel In this case, without medical treatment, falling asleep would have meant death
@@zhnsheel Having dropped dead in the hospital, can confirm...that your body tries to put you to sleep so you don't die awake. It's a horrible feeling.
I agree
I read up more about the case. The more I read the more disgusted I get. The Arizona police were tampering with evidence and got lawsuit against themselves dismissed. The weasel judge agreed with the expert testimony the Arizona police gave about Ryan's condition not being made worse by the interrogation. The amount of corruption, in this case, was just insane...
Regardless if the injury was made worse from the interrogation, could he not have gotten a lawsuit for being neglected and left in intense pain? It may even be considered unlawful detainment.
@@supermadducky6287 Except its wasn't considered unlawful detainment. That's my point, the dad sued the Arizona police department. The police department got another so-called expert witness who said the interrogation did not worsen Ryan's condition. The judge agreed with the expert witness and got the case dismissed. It didn't even get to trial.
They are all corrupt; politicians, judges, lawyers….the safety of citizens are the least of their concerns.
The judge needs disbarred, obvious idiot
@@0doublezero0 FUCK I hate seeing shit like this
Imagine slowly dying while you’re being interrogated 🤦🏾♂️. I watched the whole interrogation and you could tell he was so confused.
His lover had just been brutally murdered. He had a bullet in his brain. He then gets put into a room with a pathetic, low intellect bully. My heart goes out to this poor young man. My sincere condolences to those who lost a son and a daughter.
yes a pathetic, low intellect bully.
I’m pissed and my heart hurt😢😢
He was really confused too he didnt know what was where how and when what with
The cop should have been put in prison as well.
Heartbreaking
"Guilty until proven innocent" is this detectives motto.
It’s presumed innocent until proven guilty,it’s just a presumption.But that is besides the fact here.That damn detective couldn’t figure a way out of a wet paper bag and he should be in jail!
@@shawn31 FUCK THE LAW
Yk hes directing traffic now lmao 😂
not just this one. most of them. 95% at least
I mean really, are cops this stupid? This just seems like you would have to have no intelligence at all to interrogate someone who has been shot.
The fact he obviously had a serious injury....like missing a damn eye....but they interrogated him instead of immediately taking to the hospital, is absolutely insane.
America
Sometimes (almost always) they care more about “justice” and arresting the person, than saving and helping the victim.
Criminal stupidity at best.
*After* he sat in a patrol car for hours.
I truly believe these types of terrible decisions are a combination of evil and stupid. Even an evil person should be smart enough to realize that they will be getting in trouble for not getting him medical help. Also, if he was the perpetrator, this would have severely hurt the cops in court.
🕊️ Rest in Peace, Ryan. 🕊️
😢 He passed in 2016 due to seizure problems connected to this. His life was ruined for 9/10 years with constant seizures until he passed away. He had to lose part of his brain with the operation.
He had been a hardworking young man before this took place. He was grocery shopping when he had his last seizure and never made it.
This PI$$ED off a lot of people!! I'm actually angry and outraged again now seeing this today. They delayed serious treatment by this prolonged 💩 interrogation!!
UTTER DISGRACE & INCOMPETENCE!!
damn.
Horrible
4:38 I have to stop watching. I’m a nurse and this makes me ill…police have basic medical training. Ryan has an obvious head injury and isn’t coherent. This is so sad. RIP Ryan.
@@Pegasus2020any person could tell from the very beginning. Blood on their hands. Again.
@@Pegasus2020right? The cop hears that he got punched in the face. That and the awful bruise on his face should be enough for the cop to think "hmm maybe we should check this out"
As a med student, I felt bad. He showed many clear signs of brain damage, from pain, doziness, causeless overwhelming state, confusion in perceiving information and speaking… Being a suspect or not, they should be still allowed to get emergency healthcare when in endangered state. Those cops and detective deserved to be punished for being so ignorant
As a previous high school athlete, he showed many clear signs of brain damage. Our yearly required concussion protocol that no one pays attention to and lasts 15 minutes got the point across that everything he was displaying was a brain injury. You have to be like an infant child who hasn't experienced the world yet to not notice the clear signs in this situation
As a good person or a student this detective needs to be imprisonned and the if the suspect got brutal injured the suspect needs to get the medical cares if they want to talk about it, why they wont go to the hospital and talk it them. This is too cruel poor dude
I bet he wouldn’t be dead or have had those seizures if they didn’t commit to their narrative that he did this beforehand and ignore his injuries
As a RUclips content consumer, I felt horrible.
You have to understand, the average cop basically only knows two things: how to interrogate and how to punch their spouse/partner. Asking them to learn how to do a third thing would be simply too much cognitive load for them to handle. They would probably have a stroke just trying. That's why they irrationally fear fent; anything that isn't assaulting a spouse or mistreating a suspect only generates an extreme emotional response.
If you end up working in an ER, you'll learn what I mean.
I don't understand how a "detective" that doesn't even contemplate that a suspect that is mumbling, incoherent, disperse, sleepy, stressed out, with a huge red mark on his face, and saying he was shot in the eye, could actually be telling the truth, can even be called a detective. I don't understand how he can be called anything but a moron for that matter.
You can see that Bryan had an enjured eye why wasn't he checked at the hospital? The detective should have notice this being so close to him you can see gun powder burns plus black eye give me a break. Hope this experience will teach him and other law imforcement officers to do the right thing.
He clearly thought he was putting it on.
@@gaysy1st Yeah probably but thats just incompetence and IMO criminal incompetence since a person died that might have lived.
If you become an police officer you have certain rights but also duties and if you cant fullfill them than dont become one in the first police or change your job since you putting other lifes in danger (as you can see in this cases)
He should be charged at least with something "negligence that results in death" Im pretty shure that or something similar exists in the USA.
but probably nothing will come out expect a soryy and 2 weeks paid/unpaid vacation at most
Typical cops, guilty until proven innocent 😡
Yeah I mean his job usually is to find out about things that people rather not have uncovered. And here, he failed to even recognize something that was in plain sight AND the victim showed clear signs of being injured.
The very fact this guy was actually shot in his eye and the detective took THAT long to realize it speaks volumes of unprofessionalism. So sad.
The detective needs help!
@@beckyhenkel7917Help? He needs to go to jail
@@antwonmartinez8520 He is a disturbed man if he can't see what other people see!
@@antwonmartinez8520 he needs help not being a dumbass)))
@@antwonmartinez8520 Thank from FRANCE.. Im shocked.
This department needs to be sue to oblivion.. This is why you always give them a medical check before interviewing them
They have immunity and internal investigation by thier friends and buddies. They will get away with it
You're telling me that just seeing the man's eye like that wasn't enough for him to have someone check if he is alright??
My thoughts exactly.
Even suspects get treated at the hospital. Someone employed in that station should’ve been charged
It looks like she punched him trying to defend herself before he shot her.
Even if he looked the way he did, still should've been seen at least because of the bruise on his face @PauIdenino
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How crazy is that detective? You can clearly see the injury to this young man's eye. He told the cops he was shot, but they don't call an ambulance???! This is insane... I swear it makes you wonder how some people even make it past the police academy.
Not crazy. STUPID like all cops.
Police departments are looking for room temperature IQs and that may be the criterion that the police academies go by.
What a cruel unfeeling police officer.
Was he fired.. he's a poor excuse for a officer
I think they only seek medical attention for people they've arrested if the suspect was injured by the police. They've got to cover their behinds.
Can you imagine being this young man's parents and watching this? I don't know how anyone who loved this guy didn't go psych on these officers. This is heartbreaking.
AGREED and I'm wondering if they're just waiting it out a little bit before bringing the karma wrath down! Not gonna lie kind of hoping that's the case because this is monstrous of these corrupt "law men"
Karma always finds its way. No hiding from your deeds good and bad
The only thing I could imagine would be ending the bloodline of those responsible.
@@bbllaakkeeee yeah I’d think that would make em think twice about toying with peoples lives. But then again some of these cops and criminals for that matter are sick individuals so who knows
If this happened to my son, besides suing the crap out of that so-called detective and the department, I'd go on a personal revenge spree. I kid you not 😡
7 mins in I'm already witnessing cognitive, emotional, behavioural & communication symptoms of brain trauma! 30yrs OR & ER career! This police force needs to be held account! Beyond DISGUSTING - ABHORRENT!
This is why we need to remove the immunity from the police and internal investigation by thier friends and buddies. They will always get away with it
It's so obvious, you don't even need a medical background. It's so obvious he has an issue with his brain, that it's not alcohol or drugs, and that he should not be questioned until checked by doctors. It just blows my mind.
This broke my heart. . . An innocent kid, who was attacked, unprovoked, essentially died because some moron couldn't see the painfully obvious signs of brain trauma. I'm not anti-cop, but man does this break my heart. The people that you trust to uphold the law and protect human life, is the reason an innocent life was eventually lost. Rest in peace Ryan.
I agree poor kid😰
Painfully obvious signs of brain trauma? He couldn't even see the painfully obvious eye injury!
I'm near in tears watching this. I fell SO bad for this young man. This is just awful. His family should sue the police department and the specific officer who interrogated him.
you don’t need to be an anti-cop, you just need to be a human with a functional brain & say it how it is
Ehhh I would not go that far.
They showed up to his place and shot him and killed his girl over some past altercations.
You saw those guys. He associates with or crossed those dudes somehow and they did all that as a retaliation?
I'm guessing this kid isn't exactly a "nice guy".
How could a human being be so negligent and inhuman? This detective deserves a long jail sentence.
Because the detective has a career which involves dealing with inhuman people ALL THE TIME and at that moment in time Ryan , being the boyfriend and living there, was the prime suspect and usually prime suspects who end up guilty lie through their teeth. It was the detective's job to get the truth, he's not a doctor
He still should have had medical attention right off the bat! Questioning could have came later. That officer messed up big time.
@@marcoeis6598 what?
95% of Police are just like this. Tyrants
@@marcoeis6598bro was shot
This is completely surreal. Every single officer that was involved and didn't give him any medical attention should get fired and be in prison for negligence.
Absolutely How I Feel As Well
Criminal negligence, you forgot to put the word criminal into your statement.
Agreed!
C'mon, he couldn't been shot!
I shot a jay walker last week and he was in much more pain and agony than Ryan
So yeah
@AudieHolland so u just randomly shoot people for jaywalking?
This was a very hard watch. Poor guy. I can’t even imagine going through something like that.
I'm an EMT and we've been called to check out someone (yes even suspects) if they have bruising going on. How no one got this poor man to the hospital is not only negligent but heartless.
Right? Even just a little bit of blood on his face and my guy was denied medical treatment first.. Never in Australia..
To add, also as an EMT, I've seen people with 9mm holes in their head walking around and having a chat. This cop has only a movie understanding of gunshots.
*That entire interrogation/witness statement will be thrown out.*
*Rookie cop flushed an entire murder case.*
@@anaussieplays763 Currently dying from Stage 4 Rheumatoid Arthritis here in Tassie My Guy. Zero treatment from the medical industry. I even asked the authorities for help. No pain medication, nothing. I am now at the point where I just want my body to die already. The medical industry here in Australia is full of Patels My Guy. What would you know? I've only had 40+ years taken from me.
@@anaussieplays763 Australia...you all had concentr...er I mean quarentine camps, lo. So shut it. :P Tazing lil 12 year olds for not wearing masks outside, LMFAO...
Rip Ryan and Heather it's sickening to think that someone would shoot another person over an argument and the fact that after saying you were shot in the head you don't get medical attention, evil world we live in
I totally agree, it's a terrible world, everyday is just full lots of bad news. Its just getting worse with violence in this world. I can't believe the detective didn't notice Ryan was having severe health problems. What an asshole. Poor Ryan
Shocking how easily one person bullying or beating someone can effect the care they receive elsewhere, part of ptsd and ongoing trauma, see it every day, and is the biggest way that abusers have to get away with their crimes for so long. First on the scene with the police should have been an ambulance due to the dead body they found which might not even have been dead at that time, plenty of people get shot and live also! What were children that age doing living away from home anyway, they could have been stolen or trafficked or lost in the system or anything 😔
@@anitahagerman4697 to serve and protect *clown smiley*
You mean "America"
How can you get shot in the head and still be able to talk and do stuff in general?
This cop is a piece of work. A perfect example of tunnel vision and confirmation bias.
yup. awful all around.
that was exactly my thought...
Or of no conscience.
This cop is a piece of shit, he needs to be charged and sentenced to prison time.
No tunnel vision, they know he's not right! There's no accountability. Get guilty admission, less work even if not accurate, then qualified immunity protects ya
Wanting to sleep after head injury is a BAD sign. He wasn't meant to have survived, it's shocking
This cop needs to be held accountable... PERIOD!
Yes Jail time
@@shavonneross1952the lethal injection!
he wont
@@gaijingaiexactly he won't be ... Cops are evil people need to get it through their heads
After some googling it seems the family pressed charges but the case was dismissed but the family along with an expert brain surgeon think it was “corrupted” due to the police realizing the brain surgeon was about to testify
The fact that this guy is innocent and this interview could have easily be used against him because he kept changing his story is very scary.
Cops are happy to interrogate suspects that need medical treatment. Which is against protocol apparently... They should be taking him to the hospital to get checked out first, but they get better results for talking to people who are suffering. It mostly happens with drug addicts going through withdrawal. Even if you ask for a lawyer they'll keep interrogating you before the lawyer comes, which is also not legal...
@RE: NEKO If Ryan was brought to the hospital right away the doctors could have stopped the bleeding and stop the brain swelling thus reducing the damage to his brain.
Ryan suffered seizures throughout ten more years and died from it.
😢 can't watch till the end
@@naimaboukhouf There's only somebody telling about the case, not showing any other bad things... But it's so scary and sad that this kind of things can happen..
Ha! Thats how US system works. You wouldn't believe the ammount of people they put words in their mouth, lie and literally torture with sleep or mental deprevation. Or take plea deals because they have no money to go to court, or are lied to so they take the deal.
This is the most heartbreaking interrogation ive seen. This is what happens when you assume they are guilty.
It's also what happens when departments hire 75-IQ morons who are so stupid they can't tell that someone's been shot in the face.
Cop should be tried for murder
In france , guilty or not, the police cant do that. They must seen a medic first.
@@herbhall3830 I totally agree!!
@@bretagnejean2410 and that's how it should be done. Innocent or criminal with that physical condition they should take him to hospital first and let him recover first before anything else.
the fact he is sitting there wit basically a hole in his face and they are refusing him medical attention is crazy😐
Its honestly wild instead of being taken to the hospital, he was taken to interrogation room in that state
Ameeerika Ameeeerikaaaaa
@@xKillYourTVx If you think something like this couldn't have happened in most nations, it's clear you've never been outside of the US, and have no idea how good you have it.
Prisoner treatment is much worse in most parts of the world.
Cops are the worst people
They prioritize police over health
@@pkz420 im actually not in the us right now and AMerica is definitey on of the more fckd up places on this planets especially talking about cops
I was a trauma nurse and police have brought detainees in to be medically cleared for much less than this. The police should have taken him to the ER first for clearance, especially if he looks that way and says he was shot in the eye. This is why cops get a bad rap unfortunately. It’s appalling.
Then you have the good cops who insist paramedics look at the suspect's scraped knee because the suspect slipped in a corn field trying to flee.
The cop in this video mocks him for saying he was shot in the eye and goes "What, with a BB gun?"
Holy effing shit. Even that was the case, it would mean that the guy needs to be checked by medical professionals ASAP. Like getting a BB through the eye isn't something that warrants instant medical attention.
Given that the guy looks the way he does, it's utterly inhumane to not allow him instant access to a doctor and a checkup. Even a murder suspect doesn't deserve getting blind in one eye through police neglect.
@@h.a.9880guilty until proven innocent is clearly at play here. Seems the investigator has it in him to be a pro at water boarding n such.
I truly feel the cop was ignoring clear brain damage because he was expecting an easy confession if the suspect had no idea what was going on.
Exactly!
It's really crazy how he said "You'd most likely be dead" stating the fact that someone would usually die but that there is a rare chance someone survives as Ryan did.
I noticed that too 🤦
In all fairness, what are the chances you happen to speak to someone face to face that got shot through his eye, went through his head and managed to survive?
Although, I do not understand why he wasn't medically checked before the interrogation. Shame on the officer and deperatment.
@Tim True, not likely. When he said Heather accidentally hit him while doing hair I would've been flabbergasted.
It depends what part of the brain it hits. If it's the Dome he's done for lol
So this officer is arresting him and he is the victim! If this was kid I would sue him.
This is absolutely horrifying to watch!!! Wtf is this cop thinking???
This is a dangerous mindset of going into an investigation WITHOUT an open mind. He heavily suspected Ryan of killing Heather after being bashed in the eye and stuck to his guts, no matter how Ryan is reacting and what was said. He only wanted Ryan to admit to what he thinks is the scenario. This detective should genuinely not work ever again as this may put other innocent people to jail in other cases
Investigators when interrogating you already believe your guilty and are just trying to get a confession from you. It’s very possible that this detective just like many other detectives saw this person as a guilty person and thought he was faking his injury or faking symptoms.
Right, I agree!
@@Abcq755 That's kinda like, extremely difficult when you're as.. dazed, as the man in this video was. I know because I'm in a somewhat-similar state when I have seizures. Very susceptible to interrogation and gaslighting tactics like this.
The cops on scene and meds missed it and the booking in officers. The detective called the EMT 18 minutes after talking to him and they arrived 15 mins later. He’d been shot 48 hrs prior to the police arriving at his house then sat in a police car for 5 hours before being transported to the police station, booked in then interviewed. The detective was the last one in the chain of probably ten officers that missed it
How good of a detective can he be if he doesn't realize the guy was shot in the eye!?
How on earth could the police not have had Ryan checked out first?!?!! Just look at that bruising around his eye and listen to his confusion! I can almost feel his pain. I am horrified this young man died due to law enforcement’s negligence. Heartbreaking....
well one thing to lighten the ordeal a bit.
even though it was total bullshit he wasn't sent to the hospital for a checkup first.
he did apparantly get shot 2 or 3 days before the interrogation.
he'd been walking around with a bullet in his head for that long.
They simply didn't care
This makes my stomach turn 😓 the fact we’re watching him slowly passing, it breaks my heart and makes me nauseous
That detective needs to be fired and never allowed employment in law enforcement again.
He’s the Victim WHY did treat him like a Criminal 😡😡😡😡😡😡 He Should SUE….ASSHOLES
His girlfriend was shot and killed instantly and this detective has the audacity to ask if it was a bb gun? Absolutely sickening.
Ya, not the brightest guy
@@iananderson8363that’s not true at all. roughly 10% of people shot in the head survive
@@cameronlikesbugs 90% of gunshots to the head are fatal. Thank you for making my point! That’s all I’m trying to say, gunshots to the head usually (90%) kill, so why are so many people so quick to believe him? A gunshot to the head doesn’t usually (90%) involve the victim talking to investigators.
@@iananderson8363If you're not a medical professional, you don't get to make that call. Let him get checked out first, he's clearly injured.
@@cameronlikesbugs
So, why not assume then that he, Ryan maybe is one of the 10% who survive?
There are cases who survive we know, and 10% is pretty big number anyway! Too big to neglect it and to not check it up; for the sake of safety and security!
he's so obviously confused and has a massive injury on his head, i genuinely don't understand why he was not medically cleared before this.
The fact that the dude was shot straight in the eye and the detective took that long to figure it out really says a lot about how good of a detective he is
That was my thought as well. How good of a detective can this guy be, if he can’t figure out, within the first 5-10 minutes of listening to Ryan not making sense at all and in combination with the way his face looks, that Ryan seems to have a serious head injury?
Or maybe he (“detective”) was thinking, “Maybe I can get him to confess, while he is still out of it from getting beat up. Heck as long as I don’t forget to read him his rights, everything goes, right?!”
His tactic was torturing him for a long time having to go through booking first handcuffing him not giving him any medical attention or food to get him to “tell the truth” because of a statistic that says the boyfriend or girlfriend is usually the killer.
Stubborn, insensitive detective. Common sense would tell you a head wound like that should be checked out.
Exactly. I hope he is not a detective anymore because he certainly isn't a good one
I really thought the police officers were trained to read people and their behaviors. How can the list officer even think 9f bringing him to the station rather than the Hospital
His voice is slurred, he's holding his head, his answers are dazing, he says he's not feeling well, he literally has a giant injury to the head, what reason is there not to take him to the hospital? This was so unprofessional and I hope the interrogator lives his life bearing the guilt that he is the reason this man died, especially considering the way he was treating him previously.
He could be mental, on drugs or imbesil trying To avoid guilty by "I just wanna go home To sleep"
You viewers, are biase BECAUSE now afterwards you know the truth. DETECTIVE did not know. He is suspect and he is not giving obviously signs of emergency needed.
All he says is IM SLEEPY
1:40 its not obviously, you say so because you know the context afterwards
5:46 its clear To you now but not then
9:30 yes it does, and the suspect is just repeating childish escape thoughts. He is not telling he is In pain but sleepy!
12:18
He talks shy
He isnt believable In emergency
He is suspect
2:38
3:14 yes he looks down To him, thinking he is imbesil
3:40 he is on drugs or mental
4:50 now we know its head trauma but without that Knowledge you know what this seems, he is suspect
6:19 yea what did he do To get heather hit him and then he shot her - Police thoughts
6:37
7:00 "you are all beat up"
7:28 now he tells what happened, why not first?
So did heather hit me before the shooting for real
8:40 should have started from that if there wasnt brain trauma
10:50
11:53 XD
You are unprofessional
He could be mental, on drugs or imbesil trying To avoid guilty by "I just wanna go home To sleep"
Detective did not have the context then that you have now, your biase is alarming
@@sheeringobject ok "pro", tell us whats so bad about getting the guy to the hospital first and THEN interrogate? I would love to see you in the same position and then hear your professional opinions afterwards, with half a brain and seizures.
@@sheeringobject The fact that the officer didn't know is more than enough reason to get him checked by a doctor. So that going forward they would know wether it was drugs, injury, acting or whatever.
This guy's girlfriend was murdered, he got shot in the eye and he was interrogated by what it seems like the least competent detective there is. Sometimes life is just too damn cruel.
i'd put that detective in prison for a fucking while
@@atropa60536 feet under would be more appropriate after suffering through this video.
I’m just so confused like isn’t the first thought when you see a victim who has been shot to bring them to a hospital isn’t that what they usually do so why in the fuck was he being interrogated after being shot? I’d love to know because it’s bs.
@@hayleygalati9914 fr they act like he's the criminal instead of the victim who seriously got shot in the eye. couldn't the 'interrogater' know he'd been shot if he had a whole ass wound on his face??
in the end they come up with lame excuse of "just doing their job"
Unprofessional police. Asking, "You ever seen a cop show?" says it all. Detective thinks he's in a cop show, not in real life, with a guy dying in front of him.
Inexcusable. Absolutely inexcusable. This officer owes this boy, his family and humanity something he cannot ever repay. This is inexcusable
Do you think this is inexcusable? I feel like you might.
Sadly the boy Died.
@@JesseDumontt I get the feeling that they thought it was inexcusable...
@@JesseDumontt This is not something to joke about. But the internet allows people to say dumb things anonymously.
You are exactly right! This story breaks my heart, that poor man. Prayer for the victims families. I hope the father and son have the day they deserve.
So freaking sad and preventable. Cop needs to be relieved of duty and be held accountable for gross negligence. RIP Ryan.
He needs to be prosecuted.
bruh he was with dead gf, obviously he was a suspect.
@@frontendprotogy6749so what man? Give him some medical attention first for Christ sake! Tf is wrong with you?
@@frontendprotogy6749 i feel like it's common sense to treat even suspects so that the interogation after will go smoother.. common sense
it doesn't matter, he still should have been checked out medically first@@frontendprotogy6749
Why was he treated as a suspect when he was obviously a victim? Why was he not taken to the hospital and fully assessed?
This poor kid 😭
Brain dead detectives assumed that because heather was dead on the couch, and he was the only other one home, they assumed he killed her. Which resulted in him being treated as a suspect. Exactly why detectives and cops like this need to be reprimanded, and stripped of their badge. They dont deserve to be on the force. This should be criminal.
Cop 👮♀️ for ya
Idiots cops he didn't know something was wrong
😢
Yeah, why is he the suspect?
What a sweet and patient man. This is so hard to watch. I can’t imagine how hard it was for him to feel the vibration of his own voice as well as the detectives.
The fact that the officer was more intrigued on getting him arrested and prosecuted looking over the fact that he needed a doctor is just disgusting and disappointing.
That young man would be alive today if they did their job correctly. May he RIP. 😢
Well technically Ryan took his own life. So not taking him to hospital wasn’t the reason he died, but he still might of died eventually because of it anyway though. Still he should’ve been to hospital quick.
How did he take his own life
A seizure is a brain thing not killing himself
@@megashadow3789 My mistake. The video said one took his own life, So I thought that was his name. Instead of saying he died from the seizure. I’m use to people saying what they died of. Either way I did agree that the cop should’ve took him to medical right away. Either way thanks for pointing out my mistake. I misunderstood what guy meant on video
Exactly what I said. In such a hurry to get to the bottom of what happened trying to get him to admit he done it. Isn't Detectives trained in looking for clues by watching body language? I don't think the man passed and remind me never play charades with him! The guy was doing his best to put a sentence together for him to understand and he didn't think that was odd?? I watched this on Mr. Ballen channel a few months back. I didn't remember he passed away 😢
As soon as the kid started waffling about bow and arrows and then revolvers and his recollection of the events changing so drastically, this detective should've realised he was being serious about being shot in the eye. Even before he entered the interrogation room they should've assessed his injuries and realised sooner he needed medical attention. Truly disgusting. I hope that detective lives with those memories and how he cared more about a prosecution than a young man with a gunshot wound to the face no less.
I doubt the detective really cares. Then or now!
@@joshmyers2471 Exactly this, in the detectives mind the kid was a criminal. He just had an excuse this time...
maybe they are desensitized because they hear all kinds of stupid stories everyday from criminals that make up things just to get away with their crimes. that's my guess here.
@@nandomercy1 He *is* the criminal.
Exactly. Even if it was an arrow or a BB, to the eye, they should have taken him immediately to the hospital.
Yo the fact that he kept asking the same question over and over again makes me so mad.
We need to start holding these bully detectives accountable, and the detective needs to be charged with some type of crime from this interrogation!
Detective is a murderer!!
man you worded that way too kindly
@@sqautosqa5366 fax
Stupid detective should do his job and get the man help
Were there no consequences for the detective!??
Every time Ryan said "I don't know" you could feel how genuine and honest he was being, how could the detective not at least considerate that he really might not be doing well..
His brain is in trauma. He's remembering bits and pieces and then it goes blank, consistent with a traumatic brain injury.
Because he gets paid more depending on the amount of lives he ruins.
This video is a reupload, it's stolen from another channel. mrballen or explore with us channel had this footage.
Not fair, not even mentioning the channel you take from is just poor!
@@oneofthem2792 how is it stolen content? it's not exactly mr ballen & he doesnt own the clip. lmao i hope i misunderstood you
@@tommytarkoved1873 report it as a bot. It's in the replies if most comments.
the way the detective just said to the medics "he's 'acting' as if he has brain injuries." is crazy.
Yeah, what a dickwad he treated him.
Never in my life have I seen a person look at a physical injury like this and say "you're faking it"
That cop has -400 vision in both eyes
To be fair, acting doesn't have to mean simulating. At that point, it sounds like he means it as "his actions indicate brain damage", although that obviously doesn't excuse the detective's previous actions.
I rewatched it after commenting, and he even says "which would make sense". Nothing about faking it.
@@ericforsythI would argue that “acting” definitely comes with the connotation of behaving in a way that isn’t genuine. “Behaving like someone with brain injuries would” is a much better neutral substitute for “acting.”
@@Deathranger999 Connotations vary with culture. It's plausible yours is closer to his, and that the word carries similar connotations to him, and it's not like he's earned the benefit of the doubt here, but a lot of people at least would not interpret that as accusations of malingering
Imagine basically getting a second chance at life and then have someone just snatch it from you
It's mind boggling how inept some detectives are. Innocent life taken away. RIP Heather and Ryan.
I mean really!! Aren't they supposed to have a trained sense of perception and deduction. This guy is a fraud and a cheat in my book. I hope he got fired
@@MrDerpy-ns6sy That's the thing. They do not get that training. They are trained to find self-incriminating evidence. They are not trained to find the truth. Sure, I hope he got fired, but things won't change, unless they train their police men to actually investigate, instead of making up their own truth from the beginning.
That was def a chatgpt detective
Average police intelligence.
@@superleipoman Average American
Imagine the pain, confusion, and hopelessness he felt! This is a torture. How dare they treat the victim like that?
That detective should be punished and fire. He should be paying Ryan's medical bills as-well-as support.
Exactly the same terminology I used. "Torture" Pisses me off, to be frank. I hope somethings done about this. Edit: Im not one to cry at most sad things, but after hearing he suffered a brain infection and couldnt live a "normal life" after, I immediately broke into tears.
Why such a bull-headed/ predatory behavior was taken by the detective and this young man, hell, still a fucken kid, didn't receive medical care right away, I don't know, but I think we need a slightly higher "bar" for people who are supposed to be providing critical intelligence for us.
Murica
Cops
Because men are disposable and will always be seen as the aggressor and this detective thought this was a domestic dispute that escalated.
"If you were shot in the eye, you'd already be dead"
I didn't know police departments had medical professionals working as normal detectives!
They don't even have detectives working as detectives.
You don't need an MD to know that people survive gunshot wounds. There are extensive lists of people who survive gunshot wounds, any hunter knows that bullets aren't magical death seeds. That cop is a certifiable idiot.
Their medical professionals are never as good as the ones in the hospital, however.
Really.?? They just said that he was shot in the eye and lost his eye half of his brain. Then eventually it took his life.!!
@@brendagreenelsh3167Yeah. it took his life because of this slow, retarded, psychotic and under qualified “detective” has a mind of a braindead 3 year old and couldn’t tell the VICTIM was in deep stress and was suffering from physical trauma
I can't imagine how a "professional" have the capacity to look at someone's face for 56 minutes, and still be that blind to don't see bullet wounds or imagine that he's brain isn't ok.
I honestly would’ve started crying. I can’t imagine how it would feel to be asked all sorts of questions with barely being able to answer them while your whole head is hurting. I feel so sorry for him.
He probably couldn’t cry with the brain damage, he just kept saying he wanted to go to sleep. He even said that he wanted to let Heather sleep after getting shot. He probably couldn’t process anything emotional. Just confused, tired, and in pain.
That department should’ve been sued to hell and the detective should’ve been charged with gross negligence and fired.
It's more than your head hurting
i dont think you can start crying if you lost the ability to cry
Beta?
the idiot stayed with that wound overnight and all that time until interrogation that's not 20mins that'll change anyhting
Imagine your brain slowly getting slower, thoughts getting harder to form, your whole conscience dematerializing while you are awake and you have no idea why is this happening. This is truly one of those pretty much unbeatable hard scenarios.
Thats why he didnt get help, he repeated he wants To sleep, no emergency alerting
@@sheeringobject You are saying he didn't get help because he didn't say that he needed help?? He got shot in the face, had brain damage you absolute idiot
@@sheeringobject its amazing how brilliant you are
it really is, I could not imagine that and what a genius detective.
@@sheeringobject OMG, the world smartest person is in this comment section. Please give me more common sense Captain Obvious.
As a paramedic, it’s astounding this man didn’t get care before this interrogation. That eye wound looks serious, even not knowing that he was shot.
Cops don't care, as long as they achieve "Their" goal.
STOP bullying and harming innocent and helpless children!!! - Because it's creating such harmed people that the majority, of which likely you are a part of, are too harmed to tell how harmed you all are!!!
@@01mustang05 What?
@@lazergaming5652 Yes people like you.
@@01mustang05what?
my anger issues couldn’t
They should be charged with murder. This is absolutely despicable.
Yeah but they won't be charged cops get away with everything we need to strike back to the cops one day
They can mess up horribly and receive paid time off. A paid vacation.
Detective: "Did you graduate high school?"
Ryan: "Did you??"
If you mean the actual murders who shot him and killed his girl freind wich were Larry Carver and Richie Carver then yes
@@UNLIMITED_WMSEEDS if any one of us had acted like this "detective", we would be charged as an accessory to negligent homicide.
Also for context Ryan was completely innocent. His apartment was broken into. He was shot twice in the head and lost consciousness. His girlfriend was shot and killed by the perpetrators. When Ryan awoke, he was in such a poor mental state from his injuries that he thought his girlfriend was simply asleep on the couch when she was actually dead. When her parents hadn't heard from her, they called police for a wellness check I think. And that's when they found her and took Ryan into custody. There's several videos about this case. Edit: I probably got a few of the details wrong but I do remember seeing a video on this case and from what I remember Ryan was most definitely innocent.
And unfortunately passed away.
And what happen to the police station or detectives? Did they suffer any consequences from this? This makes me so upset ryan needs justice!
Thank you! I was thinking I missed something…
@@kevincalderon794yes we watched the video too
Just to clarify he died 10 years afterwards of a seizure but still could have been prevented if timely care was provided. He was blind and had multiple seizures unfortunately succumbed to one in 2016 this incident happened in 2005.
Him saying “I just want to go to sleep” and “I want to go back to bed” should be all the cop needs to hear to realize he’s serious. That’s a man who is slowly losing consciousness.
Thay cop is an ass AND a dumbass by responding the way he did 🙄😒
Poor guy reminds me a lot of my cousin i cannot imagine something like this happening to my fam que idiota el pinche cop
OMG.. 😢😢 the poor poor man ..
@@wadehachinsky7651 the fault was with the cop and I hope he was punished
@@wadehachinsky7651 I hope you never get to work in law-enforcement... Yikes.
This was one of the most difficult videos I've ever watched. That poor young man.
I don’t think someone with brain damage is gonna be able to tell you what happened last night.
The fact this guy was able to talk at all already is a miracle.
I feel like the detective was just straight up bullying/neglecting care, why isn’t that a crime?
I think it is.
It is
Cops don't give af. Next time you see a low wage worker not caring about their job, remember cops are people too and suffer from complacenct
It is a crime. But these assholes don’t seem to care. Horrible people. They should be fired
i think its called negligence, i could be wrong. But its something along that.
What an inexcusable tragedy. Hearing him and watching him hold his head and try his best to answer questions while slowly succumbing to the brain injury is devastating.
What happened to this evil creature who worked for the police?
@@steffenjonda8283 family sued but case was dismissed aka clear manipulaton of the system when there is clear negligence of ryan having an exit would in his head
This guy that did nothing wrong and was clearly in pain was left chained to a desk. These cops need to be sued for everything.
So so true. They should be sued for everything that they did.
Not sued, they deserve life in prison for killing him
@@laynemiller4478 They would've gotten it too if he was black
Nah i don’t think so
@@spiderofthehood6127 don't get political
How can this detective not have seen the signs that this kid has obviously suffered a brain injury 😢
This is so sad on so many levels
What a hero. He survives 2 shots to the eye, and manages to make through a interrogation till the end. My condolences go to him.
Poor guy died later because infection wow what a stupid bunch of pigs
But hes still dead how is that being a hero…
@@tbdrako752 Could you explain your logic here? Since when does hero is related to not dying or being dead ? 🤷
Hero definition 1: a person who is admired for having done something very brave or having achieved something great.
Hero definition 2: a person noted for courageous acts or nobility of character
Hero definition 3: a person admired for achievements and noble qualities
Hero definition 4: Any person who has heroic qualities or has performed a heroic act and is regarded as a model or ideal.
the list goes longer than that...
@@gibier1724 so those include not saving NO ONE whatsoever and dying after recieving brain damage by a bullet is ur logic.
@@tbdrako752 Because succesfully identifying two murderers after witnessing the death of his lover, all with a bullet in his skull, while suffering immense pain and permanent brain damage isn't an "act of courage" or "doing something brave"
Sure its not like they gonna build a statue out of the kid, but you just out here disrespecting this dead kid who had brain damage and trauma. Unbelievable.
This is the saddest thing. I certainly hope that detective was brought up on charges. Ryan should've been transported to the hospital before stepping foot in a police station. I cannot imagine the suffering he went through. This young man might still be here today if it wasn't for the ass holes who shot him and that detective. Rest in Peace Ryan and Heather.
The detective should be given the same punishment as the criminals
@@getpoopeduponkid2059 Would prefer he get the same treatment as Ryan!
@@getpoopeduponkid2059 police detective is the reason why Ryan is dead he should have been charged with murder
More likely they promoted him
@@getpoopeduponkid2059 yes!!!!!!!
These cops need to start being held accountable
Pigs
Video says detective, this detective should rot in jail. I also don’t understand how nobody from picking him up, to processing didn’t do anything
@@charleskavoukjian3441 They didn't care. All they care about is passing time at work quicker, as seen on every "cop stops" video.
Never gonna happen and gonna keep happening
@@krischainz Facts, sadly 😔
So sad😢 so hard to watch this..rip. Whyyy is he treating him like that
Detective was SO trying to place the blame on Ryan for killing his girlfriend when he didn't even want to believe that the kid had been shot in the eye, "Nevermind this little story of Richie and his dad coming in and attempting to murder them both, this kid must've done it and is trying to blame someone else. Who cares if he's faking pain, I'm gonna lock him up."
- This detective needed to have his license revoked, publicly shamed, and fired. I hope this eats at you until your end.
I’m so mad the detective I can’t even say anything
That's how so many people end up convicted because of detectives like him.
The detective is not a doctor, since he was injured, the doctor should look at him first and only then should he be interrogated.
On the other hand, he only looks like he's been beaten up, not shot.
that detective needs to be jailed for manslaughter
Right! Due to his stupidity that kid died and it was his fault. And it could have been prevented. Shameful.
The fact that he has a serious brain injury and it took him like 15-30 minutes to recall what happened to him, but took the interrogator a full hour to take a look at his face is astonishing to me
This is the USA for you bro and it's like that in almost every single aspect.
This is the entire world for you now bro. Unfortunately, it's not just the USA that has deteriorated to this state. Most of the Western world has sadly degraded into nearly socialist levels of incompetence and Tyranny.
Makes you wonder which one in the room actually had the brain injury.
@@jairuslol the USA has become a 3rd world country unfortunately
@@jairuslol It's not a USA thing bro, it is a cop thing.
This case was so sad. This young man died ten years later from a seizure that was a result of his injury. I can't even imagine what he must have gone through.
Oh my. Clearly he is NOT ok. Why wouldn’t they accompany him to the hospital then talk to him. I am sorry that he died.
I thought he committed suicide
@jeremylelea3758 no, he had a seizure and never recovered.
@FirstLast-hs4gw accurate assessment. It's heartbreaking when you learn, after watching the interrogation, that he had taken a bullet to the head, and had been in that state for at least 24 to 48 hours before the interrogation took place. I do hope something was done about the officer who interrogated him.
Thank you for your service by the way. My grandfather was a police officer and later police chief before he passed away.
tbh most of him died that day because of that detective. Withholding treatment led to him being permanently brain damaged, and he could even be alive and himself right now if this 'detective' had any intelligence.
Ryan Waller has all my repect❤
the way they didnt even believe him is absured
Insane what a human body can go through. He’s still able to answer, listen, moving at all after someone shot a bullet right into his brain
My uncle had a fight with police yrs ago and didn’t realize he was shot in the face until like a week later, he came by my mom house and told us he was fighting the police and that’s the reason his face was swollen, my mother look closer and told him boy you got shot and took him to hospital my uncle was wild, he didn’t die from that but he passed away 30 years later from overdose
@@notnot6749 sounds like ur uncle was a terrible man
@@fancen troubled*
@@fancen no he wasn’t, he fought for are country and just like every veteran that risk they’re life for this country are treated like nothing when they return home, no support from our country, so yeah most veterans come home different than when they left.
@@notnot6749 I am proud of you for standing up for him. May he rest in peace. Wish you the best in life, dear stranger. ❤️💪
that’s so sad. the reason he wanted to “sleep” is because his brain was trying to let him die. he didn’t know that heather was dead and he thought she was just asleep because of the brain trauma. brought me to tears. that detective is an idiot. :(
Yeah.. it leaves you wordless, for the entire video I was hoping for something to happen that would save him but no..
Yeah I had a really hard brain trauma and basically you skip around from thought to thought, you just want to sleep and if you do you will probably die but not always. Then you have these moments of clarity but you have to be walked along step by step with the truth. So lets say you were hit by a car and they said "A white car hit you?" youd skip to the truth of that and talk about it, then they might say somehting like "yellow" and "yeah and she has a yellow one", and they will be like "a yellow what?" and then you just dont know what they are talking about cause they said yellow not you, if they knew your memory they could keep you coherent all night like "Yeah she has a yellow bag?" and youd be like "yeah she does, she keeps her stuff in it", so if the cop had of said "so they got you in a sleeping hold, a headlock" he would have been like "yeah" and given more details.
yeh hubby had an aneurysm clot in his brain but we didnt figure out that was the issue for a couple days, at first honestly though it was just a blazing migraine cause he was passing all that kind of "stroke test" stuff. eventually tho it starts shifting his thinking sidewas. long long story but the short point of it is when we saw this initial interrogation we were both like "oh my god. hes got a concussion or someone DID shoot this guy in the head". originally watched a much longer clip of this and i still cant bear to watch it again. it made my husband absolutely sick to his stomach because even though when he tries to recall he can't remember being in that dreamy state when he heard this kid he recognized it immediately :( heartbreaking. And the flipping details thing, (something that happend to someone else, saying it happened to you) -- my mother was doing that the week before she passed in hospice. So if you said "I bumped my knee" there was a chance she would say "I bumped my knee" and echo / reflect it, then insiste it was she who did it, etc. Yes, dying brain matter stuff, as she was passing slowly, yeah, we were watching this poor kid dying on camera. just.. this whole thing was terible :(
I hope he knows he's responsible for this guy's death.
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r.i.p ryan, you seemed like such a sweet soul, so sorry for you and your family having to suffer like this, a cruel and messed up world we live in
Ryan Waller did receive the help needed, but it was too late as he went blind and suffered seizures for the rest of his life. Few years later, he passed away from a seizure.
@@napinkpa Perhaps, but not right away. As a RN & with all my knowledge & experience this young man.. had he received Immediate care & surgery, he might've been alive today still. In situations like this TIME is of the essence!!
@@napinkpa thats now grounds for a murder charge
No, not the cruel and messed up world in which we live. The police detective is responsible for this man's death. He was showboating for a video camera in hopes of getting on TV -- like 48 Hours or something. Disgusting. I hope Ryan's family sued the pants off of whatever hick town PD or SO this happened.
It’s not like that, he just had enough experience as an interrogator that he assumed he was lying. Because really every criminal lies during interrogations right?
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Ryan’s father sued the Phoenix Police Department, and the interrogator who dealt with Ryan was charged with evidence tampering and fabricating stories about events to do with the case.
Good because this guy is a a-hole!!
is the case still pending? or did he win? please tell me he won
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@@HappysFunPalace If the interrogator was charged with things I’d say he won 😂
I don’t think they went through with the case because the parents couldn’t afford it if they lost, they got bullied out of it by the state
RIP Ryan and my deepest condolences to his family. This is absolute cruelty
It truly was so cruel, I wonder if that officer even felt remorse and at-least attempted to apologize to him and his family. Whoever chose to drive him to the precinct instead of the hospital is also responsible.
@@catcooper9461 didn't the police bring him 2 the station that's why they said he sat in the cop car for 4hours.
if i would be a Family member i would go after the 2 guys that shot and after that the Cop would follow the same route as my family member.
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I am sorry that Ryan was dead that was caused by one man who was supposed to serve the victim with hospital care. I wish that Ryan did not make even one sound to that detective.
This is heartbreaking to witness knowing he was actually the victim.
that cop needs to be fired
He needs to be convicted.
@@matthewwilson5019 at least he could have given him medical attention first and interrogate him much later. So sad the detective wasted the guy.
@@titilayomajiyagbe3088 yea your more than correct, i competley agree
Inability to exhibit hatred and violence without psychosexual motive is atypical of virgins in every species, and the leading cause of rookie cops choking under pressure. As some men would say their balls have yet to drop. He will continue to chase after dead princesses rather than saving a life. You have to be cracked and redpilled maybe even taken a bullet just to get a semblance of based intuition.
If a person is saying “I don’t know “ constantly that means his brain is in shock and the person is trying very hard to remember what really happened.
Every time I hear this story, is literally enrages me. Even if Ryan was the one who shot Heather, he very obviously needed medical treatment. That he sat there with that enormous wound in his eye and the detective did nothing to help him is outrageous. I hope he feels guilty about it until the day he dies.
Yup.
Ryan did not shot Heather. Richie did.
@@ericlaurendeau4816 thats why o.p said ..... even if ...... they never said he did
I hope more happens than him feeling guilty. If someone tells you they've been shot in the fucking eye and they're clearly delirious they need to go to the hospital and if you hold them from it for an hour you need to receive criminal charges
He won't, trust me.
That detective played a part in Ryan's death. He delayed his treatment and then Ryan had a difficult time coping with everything.
does the person being interrogated have the right to medical attention even if they don't need it?
@@freddyfish835 I fail to see how this is a sane response to this comment. Like this is a clear cut and dry case of negligence on the behalf of the detective, so what does this brain-dead whataboutism even serve to accomplish? Are you saying that people with little to no medical training should be able to decide whether or not someone in their custody should receive medical care? Being interrogated does not strip a person of their basic human rights, even if all evidence points to them being guilty. POWs get treated better than this, this level of negligence is basically akin to manslaughter, and the detective and the officers who picked him up should be stripped of their positions, blacklisted from joining any other force, and face their due justice for what they did to Ryan
@@blakebell8533I'm not saying anything that your saying. I'm just asking a question.🙂
@freddyfish835 Yes. To your ? yes they do. Regardless if he was shot with a bullet, bb or marshmallow, he was clearly injured through the eye. Any sane person without agenda would see the man was not right mentally probably because of the hole in is head. Officers and dectives routinely question suspects in the hospital. This Dept got away with murder.
@@freddyfish835 i mean i think so, he kind of got shot in the head
Ryan was treated a lot worse than just the lengthy interrogation. He was in custody for hours at the scene, and wasn't provided medical help by any of the "heroes" at the scene. Their infallible "gut instincts" told them Ryan was the guy, so they chose to mistreat him, because he was, in their eyes, a murdererer. Even if they didn't know he was shot, they still had a duty to get him medical attention, and they chose not to.
People tend to view folks in prison as sub-human and there for punishment, not rehabilitation. Most of these same people tend to view people merely arrested in association with a crime as being guilty. If you combine these things you're surrounded with hostile, bitter people who assume things are true without knowing the facts and wanting people to suffer.
In the vast majority of cases, it is the boyfriend that kills the girlfriend, But it's not 100%, and this case is why can't just assume. They basically killed this kid by trying to play tough-guy cops who "know better". Idiots.
He said that he was shot in the eye, so the cops knew it.
I bet they didn't find a gun at the scene that matched the girlfriend's wound.
Bro Heather giving him that mark around his eye is crazzzy. I cant believe the detective didn’t know.
This detective was very well aware he wasn't okay, he thought he was gonna get a gold star pulling a confession out of this kid by taking advantage of it. Sick stuff.
That makes the detective doubly stupid, cuz such a confession would be wholly inadmissible due to the guy's extreme injury impairing his brain functions. He'd be doing all that work, effectively killing the guy, for nothing. I hope he's a pariah in that county.
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 I have no doubt this particular officer is dumb as rocks bc duty of care still exists.. even in America. He shouldn't have spoken to him at all without him being checked over let alone gone full interrogation mode on him in his condition
He could be mental, on drugs or imbesil trying To avoid guilty by "I just wanna go home To sleep"
Detective did not have the context then that you have now, your biase is alarming
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826you have biase because you know the context, Detective did not know. The guy is suspect and the story doesnt add up
@@sheeringobjecthad fun spreading this shit through tonnes of comments?
Shame you're WRONG because not only can you not spell, but this has nothing to do with bias.
You see the camera footage before the interrogation even starts, and you don't need to be a professional to see that something is very wrong.
What you're doing is victim blaming. I don't wish bad things on people, but your ignorance is so astounding that you just might warrant it.
This literally made me sick to my stomach. This "detective" is a killer who didn't pull the trigger. Whoever was in charge of this whole case deserves to go to jail for not sending Ryan to the hospital IMMEDIATELY. Ryan's family needs justice for the Phoenix police department killing their son.
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15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
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@@AlexanderBrown77 bless you. thx for your concern.
this really makes my stomach turn. What the hell happened to the once great country we live in :(
@@kawan3661really... some rando copies and pastes some quote from the bible and ya like oh praise da loooord Geeesus... why on earth would you... if gods so good why did he allow an innocent man to suffer and die, whilst his killers have free health care, food and shelter forever... at tax payer expense, im not judging religion, well i am, but my point here is why on earth would you bring god here... judging by thid video if god exists hes an a hole
@@AlexanderBrown77go AWAY
ER nurse here. This is beyond disturbing and disgusting. Even someone with no medical knowledge would know this boy needed immediate medical attention. This is heartbreaking. Im so angry. I hope that detective and anyone else involved paid dearly for this.
I'm no doctor or nurse but I feel so sad and angry just looking at him in that terrible state, poor boy.
lol cops are basically required to be sociopaths or borderline re†ar∂s
too bad the only case where they will pay for this is if some vigilante civilian goes out there and delivers justice. and we know that will never happen. and we know nothing will happen. just have to hope hes living the rest of his days in fear cuz people know and have seen what he did, and one day one of those persons might walk into him on the street
They better! This isn't right and it's ridiculous that he is getting away with this.
If common sense was a lot more common today we wouldn't be having near as much of the nonsense we're seeing today.
I'm just glad I grew up in the country around farms before I moved on to a small town before I hit the city.
If you're ever questioned by the police you have to understand that they assume you're guilty. That's what happened here.
"If you been shot in your eye you should have been dead" That is disgusting they don't even give him any benefit of the doubt they instantly think he's lying
You can definitely survive being shot on the face but the chances are slim as it requires the bullet to be shot on an angle
There was no hole, it was actually swollen shut according to some articals.
To be fair, you will die instantly most of the time. Still doesn't excuse the detective tho
Their rationale is sooo sooo stupid and awful
@@goober4103 it wouldn’t have mattered he had a clear panda/racoon eye was repeating words and using the incorrect terminology to explain a situation aka bow and arrow as posed to revolver highlighting an issue with speech. He had also advised his behaviour was not normal for him and that he had passed out, he also advised of what had happened and was clearly distressed. Even though he was handcuffed to the table several times throughout the video he behaved as though he had forgotten this fact. Their was a clear indication he had some sort of internal bleeding and severe head trauma requiring immediate medical attention. A swollen eye is not an excuse enough for the delay in medical care.
This guy being there with brain damage, speaking clear as water to the detective about what he witnessed.
It was like a chat with the afterlife. Yet this detective wasted this miracle with his accusations.
It's a shame that he wasn't treated like a human being and sent to a hospital. Rest in peace, Ryan. You were a fighter.
Strong young man. Wow. He was a medical miracle.
Clear as water? Did we listen to the same thing here
I don’t blame the interrogator. It looks like he was just punched in the eye, he probably thought heather hit him and he shot her. Doesn’t help the story changed multiple times from bow and arrows to revolvers.
@@worlore1651 Getting punched in the eye looks far different from your eye simply not being there due to a gunshot.
@@worlore1651 I invite you to look up "periorbital ecchymosis". Those raccoon-like eyes are a CLEAR sign of severe head trauma.
I've watched this video a couple times and my heart goes out to this guy and his family. What an ordeal to go through and then be treated like a criminal and a liar.
maybe im just a keyboard warrior but that boys father needs man up and go see this guy
This detective seems to have a full cranial lobotomy - not uncommon for thumbs on the force, God bless!
This is so sad. Could you imagine what this poor kid went through ?
I like your reply but that makes it a number I don't care to see! God bless!
Do the math, how did his girlfriend die if it was a bebe gun?!? He should have just stopped talking to them. If they refused to listen to what catered to his well being. Some folk (regardless of their age and overall experience) just don't know how to put 2 and 2 together........much less listen to what is true or makes sense. They're so thirsty to be right, that their ego puts them in a stupor. Only to look and feel exactly like how their ego desires to make them look and feel.
The fact that he didn’t go to the hospital at first got me pissed!
I cant imagine what Ryan was going through while being badgered by this bone head detective. Even not knowing he had a bullet lodged in his brain it was painfully obvious he had a very serious eye injury and should be in the hospital. It's totally outrageous that they kept him there for hours with an untreated injury like that.
“detective”
He hadn't a bullet lodged in his brain. They said it passed right through.
@@Feldraumyou people and your useless comments
@@melkhiahdanner4710 haha why is it useless? They really said that :P
@@Feldraum useless because there are comments that shed light on topics and try to feel the pain of the person behind the video, then someone comes along “Oh WeLL yOu KnOw tHe BuLLEt went right thrOuGh him, tHeY rEalLy sAiD that” idk it just comes off the wrong way.