What Is Canon in Monster High?

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  • Опубликовано: 25 янв 2025

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  • @feralcatgirl2169
    @feralcatgirl2169 16 дней назад +173

    For the humans not being showed as much in the settings, i always thought of it as monsters and humans being strongly segregated. Like there's a monster part of cities and a human part.

    • @Boogeyman4511
      @Boogeyman4511  16 дней назад +50

      I feel like that's what they were going for, but it all becomes very bizarre whenever I stop and think about it. If Boo York and New York were sharing the same territory, I feel like they'd easily discover each other as it's hard to hide a city in plain sight. The explanation I've heard that makes the most sense for me is that the monster and human worlds are separate dimensions that connect sometimes.

    • @FallenGhoul
      @FallenGhoul 16 дней назад +23

      @@Boogeyman4511during Ghouls Rules Lilith questions why the monsters are on their side of town so the idea of monster and humans being in segregated parts of the cities makes sense. Just have to imagine the cities are reeeeeeally big to allow both populations to have their own landmarks and everything

    • @galactic_buddy
      @galactic_buddy 6 дней назад +3

      @@Boogeyman4511 I think the monster world and human world are definitely in different planes/dimensions! Rather than places being physically split between monsters and humans, I picture it as looking at human places through a monster ‘lens’. It could be that only Monster High itself is situated on a plane where the divide between the two worlds is the weakest. That would explain the proximity of humans and their interaction with monsters in Ghouls Rule compared to other movies. I like to imagine that the founders of Monster High purposely built it where the two worlds overlapped to achieve the far-off, eventual unification of humans and monsters.

    • @jujublue4426
      @jujublue4426 4 дня назад +1

      ​@galactic_buddyI wouldn't be surprised that the school which wanted to unite all monster species in a world where segregated schools are the norm also was planned to welcome humans, Sparky was mentioned to be an exchange student and mocked for being a human so maybe his admission in Monster High was a first step, along with having Hexicah Steam as a professor.
      I headcanon monster cities being close to their human equivalent (Scaris in the same area as Paris, Hauntlywood close to LA, Londom/London, Shibooya/Tokyo,Boo York/New York City) and having a sort of magical filter similar to the Wizarding World in Harry Potter keeping monsters safe from humans. That's the only way I found to make sense of Ghoul Rules lmao

  • @kingdomorange2
    @kingdomorange2 16 дней назад +254

    I just wanna say I was so disappointed with how watered down Spectra is in the webseries. I loved her gossipy “don’t give a damn” personality in her profile and profile

    • @OpticalSorcerer
      @OpticalSorcerer 16 дней назад +29

      Spectra fluctuated for me; sometimes she was interesting, sometimes she was annoying, and her spectral voice kinda threw things in the latter direction.

    • @Cryin.r.n
      @Cryin.r.n 16 дней назад +8

      Our king has been spotted in the yt wild.

    • @carlosceballosramirez1545
      @carlosceballosramirez1545 16 дней назад +18

      Definitely seems they wanted to make her nicer and part of the main ghouls but thankfully they gave us Toralai and Nefera. I believe she's made to be nicer in the same way as she probably lets out her frustration through writing and let's herself be more vile while on gossip mode, but she probably doesn't mean as much harm due to shyness that was established.

  • @joseeduardo4751
    @joseeduardo4751 15 дней назад +76

    Taking into consideration monster high is, first and foremost, a doll line, I think it is safe to say the diaries are the "most canon" media we have. Through the diaries, the designers were closely involved with the stories about the characters they created (at least most of them, since we eventually got dolls that came from the webisodes). I guess you could say the same about the movies but I still feel like they had more authonomy with the diaries!

    • @cesarionoexisto2848
      @cesarionoexisto2848 14 дней назад +5

      i completely agree. any details involved with the dolls are the main canon

    • @Boogeyman4511
      @Boogeyman4511  13 дней назад +8

      I can agree with this. I was mainly coming from the perspective of the movies and webisodes since those were the main media I had seen. But taking into consideration your comment I can definitely see the diaries being more canon(they’re better written anyway so that’s a plus).

  • @Mx.Macabre
    @Mx.Macabre 14 дней назад +44

    The contradictions that confuse me the most in the MH franchise are about Jackson and Holt honestly.. Like for example, on the doll's box, it says Jackson is the son of Dr. and Ms. Jekyll, but in his diary (and maybe Lisi Harrisson's book?? idk I haven't read it yet) the Jekyll/Hyde thing comes from his mom's side of the family and his father is a fire elemental. I personnally assume that Dr. Jekyll is probably his grandfather or great grandfather. Also, in all MH medias except Lisi Harrisson's book, his transformation into Holt is triggered by music, in the book it's triggered by heat. Anyways, very cool video!!

    • @BridgetMaranje
      @BridgetMaranje 13 дней назад +8

      Not to mention, In the ghoul's rule video game, it says that Holt's and Jackson's mom is a fire elemental, implying the Jekyll/Hyde is from the Dad's side of the family. While the books say it's the other way around. Like, which is it?

  • @OpticalSorcerer
    @OpticalSorcerer 16 дней назад +77

    Definitely prefer Gen 1's canon. Always hated how Gens 2-3 always swtiched up Clawdeen's family and Gen 2 had main character syndrome by having the girls make MH instead of it being a longstanding school.

  • @Skipchipsdip
    @Skipchipsdip 16 дней назад +30

    Monster high canon can be pretty inconsistent. From diaries, web series and movies. Granted I always separated them as their own thing for my sanity lol
    Also anyone remember the books? All monster had to live among humans and hide their features?

  • @galactic_buddy
    @galactic_buddy 6 дней назад +5

    I never knew there were so many plot holes, your attention to detail is unreal! I think of all the G1 media as one canon because every type of media adds new depth and interest to the characters, even the New Scaremester comics (except for the random G3 sneaks). For most of the conflicting information, I would say that the more impactful version of events gets canon status, like Why Do Ghouls Fall In Love retconning the webisodes. Otherwise, I would love to see all the conflicting information reconciled in some creative way. Going forward I hope Mattel sees how much we care about the lore and gets their story in order. Thank you for making this video, I’ve been looking for a commentary on the canon for so long!

  • @libramoon1582
    @libramoon1582 4 дня назад +2

    The Monster High wiki even pointed out inconsistencies like Frankie and Draculaura sharing a birthday in the webisodes (even though Draculaura's birthday is February 14th while Frankie's is June 26th) for example. Also in the diaries, Jackson Jekyll's transformation into Holt Hyde is triggered by the time of day, daytime for Jackson and nighttime for Holt as he explained in a entry where he tried to watch the sunrise as Holt but blacked out and woke up as Jackson along with having little memory of his nighttime dates with Draculaura and Operetta

  • @carleymitchell9331
    @carleymitchell9331 16 дней назад +37

    I love the books as details to the world. It's all that they do to me, but they aren't as fun. Great video! Also maybe the newer stuff is just a secret G4 😂

  • @chaotic5245
    @chaotic5245 13 дней назад +5

    I feel like the original G1 canon stuff from 2010-2015 (excluding the original novels) is definitely stuff that is supposed to be set in the same canon, but because of different teams working on each thing, it feels like you can really pick and choose what is and isn’t canon, but for the newer G1 canon stuff, especially the novel and IDW comics, I feel like they both are in two different universes than the original G1 canon, with me feeling like if anything, the IDW comics are the closest thing to the original 2010-2015 canon we will ever see again, while once bitten, twice dead is in its own one-off novel canon.

  • @jujublue4426
    @jujublue4426 16 дней назад +24

    Tbh I really liked the book about Venus, Rochelle and Robecca even if they are often incoherent with the main canon . The last two are among my favourite characters and I enjoyed reading Venus having a personality instead of just being the ecology activist girl background character for once, I mean even in Freaky Fusion where she's part of the main cast she still is not very developed compared to the others (only cool thing was showing more of her plant powers) and I loved her design as someone who used to collect the dolls in her teens, so I was disappointed to always see her being a background character in the movies and not having an actual personality outside of protecting the planet (and yes it's an important message but it's the same issue as making your gay character's only personality trait being gay. It doesn't make them compelling,it's just an aspect of them but doesn't entirely define a person). How did they manage to make a poison-ivy like character with a punk style boring in the webisodes and movies ?!

  • @mantosaranti924
    @mantosaranti924 16 дней назад +28

    My king finally posted 🥳🥳

  • @Dee-kc5zg
    @Dee-kc5zg 15 дней назад +5

    I remember years ago when the Great Scarrier Reef came out, I watched it and was like it’s as if the events in Escape frim Skull Shores never happened 💀

  • @Caseyloena
    @Caseyloena 16 дней назад +10

    When I saw this video I was so delighted, ever video you create always feels full and informs me on things I might not know in monster high, I have always wondered why all the Lore and canon is separated into a non consistent story. I know this was a hard video to create because the canon is messy

  • @cartoonmania398
    @cartoonmania398 11 дней назад +3

    I think the original G1 diaries are important because they were made by the people who created these characters and dolls. The diaries were made by the Mattel Monster High team while the web show was made by WildBrain Studios and the 3D specials by Nerd Corps Entertainment. I completely ignore the Lisi Harrison books and the IDW comics and books. I wish the show and movies followed more of the things that happened in the diaries

  • @thatponighoul
    @thatponighoul 16 дней назад +13

    What a fun video! I love discussing all of the different MH media...my ghoulness is there a lot of it.
    Also, I love that you encouraged everyone to read the diaries! They are genuinely so fascinating and soooooo much of the lore is hidden in those things!
    Oh and about the Lisi Harrison books, I'd definitely say if you don't *want* to read them, don't, but if you ever do feel like it and you go into it with the knowledge that they will be NOTHING like any of the other MH media...they're extremely entertaining, in the absolutely bizarre way. I do not like those books. But I do have fun reading them. 🤣
    Keep up the fangtastic work! 💗🤣

    • @Boogeyman4511
      @Boogeyman4511  16 дней назад +1

      Thank you! I'm a huge fan of your videos as well.

    • @thatponighoul
      @thatponighoul 16 дней назад

      @Boogeyman4511 Omg I didn't even realize you'd seen my videos! Thank you so much 🩷 I've been meaning to watch yours forever but I always get distracted lmao 🤣 definitely going to watch more later though!!

  • @Giuseppecoretti
    @Giuseppecoretti 15 дней назад +4

    I think that what has to be considered canon in Monster High should be the cartoon continuity because the first basic dolls were released in early july 2010 and the first cartoon webisodes were released between May 5th and july 30th 2010

  • @jaspershattered
    @jaspershattered 8 дней назад +3

    I like to think the world has thin veils through out it and they cross them without realizing

    • @galactic_buddy
      @galactic_buddy 6 дней назад +2

      Exactly!!

    • @jaspershattered
      @jaspershattered 6 дней назад +2

      @galactic_buddy like there's witches n stuff in that universe who knows maybe some spell went wrong or right and certain veils where put and you know with veils sometimes u can't pass through them at all n other times you can

  • @Courtney_Slays564
    @Courtney_Slays564 14 дней назад +4

    Something that doesnt make sense to me is in friday night frights ghoulia builds robecca steam and her heart was LITERALLY shown when they have a whole movie (frights camera action) were robeccas heart was the vampires heart and it was supposed to be lost like what?

  • @Alienofaquitaine
    @Alienofaquitaine 12 дней назад +1

    I'm a little too late, but thank you for this cool video ! It's difficult to talk about the many medias of Monster High and their canon, so thank you for sharing the subject with us (also, I love you're other videos !)

  • @Giuseppecoretti
    @Giuseppecoretti 10 дней назад +1

    1:09 actually there is a double error in this episode which is that not only is Draculaura's birthday,but is also Frankie stein's birthday, which make no sense at all because Draculaura's birthday is on February 14th (Valentine's day), and Frankie's is on June 26th

  • @CNfanatic
    @CNfanatic 16 дней назад +6

    Hey I love your content. it’s very well put together.

  • @lenastorm6280
    @lenastorm6280 6 дней назад +1

    7:42 Draculaura's hight error: Her head is under Clawed's chest. 7:44 A few seconds later it's just al little bit under his shoulder.

  • @Giuseppecoretti
    @Giuseppecoretti 15 дней назад +2

    1:11 there is also Frankie Stein 's birthday here, where She turns 16 days old

  • @moniquecharles5926
    @moniquecharles5926 15 дней назад +3

    I'd read the Harrison books when I was in my first year in college, and I enjoyed reading them.

  • @LoriGarcia-Hernandez
    @LoriGarcia-Hernandez 15 дней назад +7

    Remember When toralei Sent everyone back in time in freaky fusion toralei made a new timeline If you're A legend of Zelda fan, you'll understand So everything After 2014 Can be on a different time line Making some events Play out differently

    • @Maartio
      @Maartio 15 дней назад +1

      This is actually such a good theory

  • @DollsBoredom
    @DollsBoredom 16 дней назад +20

    I was always bothered by the fact of lagoona’s “stage fright” even when the movie came out I think I was 10? Even then it bothered the hell out of me watching the movie remembering the webisodes 😒

  • @cesarionoexisto2848
    @cesarionoexisto2848 14 дней назад +5

    the diaries are the main canon, not the webisodes or the movies because monster high is a doll franchise, not a movie franchise, first and foremost

  • @tux_duh
    @tux_duh 11 дней назад +1

    2:46 counterpoint
    The Great scarrier reef is just a scarier reef than the great barrior reef and they are different reefs

  • @VintageCinnamon
    @VintageCinnamon 16 дней назад +1

    Yessssss I needed this today

  • @Alisonsgachaverse
    @Alisonsgachaverse 16 дней назад +7

    I just hope the howliday book isn't canon because I'm an Operetta x Johnny Spirit superfan

  • @LagoonaScreams
    @LagoonaScreams 16 дней назад +3

    justice for Melody Carver

  • @frenchtoast4390
    @frenchtoast4390 16 дней назад +2

    Seems like every new piece of media is a new universe /j

  • @chelseashamim9148
    @chelseashamim9148 16 дней назад +2

    You're back! 🥳

  • @buriedinbooks881
    @buriedinbooks881 15 дней назад +2

    There’s a lot of funny contradictions that bring up fearious questions. This franchise has been my genuine specialty interest since Oct 2010 so I know about all of them. One big one a lot of people don’t tend to mention is that the school itself was over 2,000 years old until freaky fusion where it’s retconned to be only 200 years old. This is important because it doesn’t just contradict the old volume 1 webisodes, but how do ghouls fall in love itself. As Draculaura herself states she was at her OLD school “over 400 years ago”, which to me implies she likely has been at monster high itself for around 400 years. To me this was kind of a lagoonas sudden stage fright level of blunder haha. G1 of monster high really can only be enjoyed to its fullest when you just accept that there isn’t a linear timeline much at all, there’s always some other detail in G1 that contradicts itself somewhere

    • @xxmidnight12xx18
      @xxmidnight12xx18 14 дней назад

      Friday the 13th and Halloween happening on the same day is another contradiction lol. I’ve always just pretended it was different dimensions overlapping.

  • @carlosceballosramirez1545
    @carlosceballosramirez1545 16 дней назад +2

    Great video and agree with you on all the continuities and plot holes. The first volumes and the early diaries are probably in the same continuity to an extent and it can be explained by it being monster high establishing itself for the first time and not having a specific time line or canon events at the time. Volume 2, the movies and any subsequent diaries are probably same continuity. I absolutely hate the continuity following the twice dead book and the comics, they seem more like edgy fanfics and they write the characters completely different than what they're trying to continue from. And adding g3 elements makes more plot holes as well as including characters from other gens or even including characters that are not even around anymore in it's own continuity. They referenced Moanica from g2 and at the end of the book they implied normies are banned from monster high with some sort of magic but in the comics Jackson is seen at the school in his human form. The comics promised to continue g1 but it seems to be handled by people that didn't know the bare minimum about it. Also great video and would love to see a longer one about the diaries and the books.

  • @Lopholillie
    @Lopholillie 16 дней назад +3

    "Thank you for the claw-some video BoogeyMansion" we all say with glee

  • @mausooma
    @mausooma 11 дней назад

    5:16 I did not expect that clip of lagoona 😭

  • @kitleecaplinger2987
    @kitleecaplinger2987 15 дней назад +2

    Monster high idw comic and the new book is gen one but different dimension. This was actually confirmed a few months back.

  • @Giuseppecoretti
    @Giuseppecoretti 16 дней назад +3

    I want to add the fact that the dolls of this franchise resemble more the characters in movies than the characters in webisodes. for example, I noticed that Operetta( daughter of the Phantom of the opera) in the webisodes has blue skin similar to Abbey Bominable, purple eyes and purple eyeshadow, while in the movies she has lilac skin, grey eyes and orange/yellow eyeshadow. Why????

    • @cerisemin
      @cerisemin 15 дней назад +2

      Operetta has lilac skin in all versions, her eyes are grayish purple on doll and artwork but do lean more purple in the webisodes and grey in the movies, and the doll has yellow and pink makeup where as you pointed out the web has pink and the movie has yellow. Probably just different teams adapting the doll design differently

  • @bROWNIEXX457r
    @bROWNIEXX457r 15 дней назад +2

    When I was a kid I was the only boy liking monster high + people found Me stranger cuz Twyla is my fav

    • @MrMarxy
      @MrMarxy 12 дней назад

      Haha been there. MH is just such a fun franchise. Hard not to love it.

  • @baihaqisodikin1416
    @baihaqisodikin1416 16 дней назад +5

    4:37 I agree, Toralei is the best in G3

  • @sonamy1231000
    @sonamy1231000 2 дня назад

    Twila is shown more in this video then she was in the entire franchise lol

  • @notsantea4126
    @notsantea4126 16 дней назад +2

    summing up modern canon: The writers of the new books / comics didn't do their work watching any of the movies and went with very basic information about the characters. (Which is kinda conflicting as a writer, you must do all your research before diving into a project) Monster High should've just said it was a new storyline lol

    • @thatponighoul
      @thatponighoul 16 дней назад +4

      The author of the majority of the MH comics has actually been an MH fan for a while! As is the artist. It's not that they didn't do their research, it's just that they're in a different continuity. People will definitely agree or disagree with the choice to make it that, but the idea that the author and illustrator aren't MH fans is untrue. /lh /nm
      Honestly I think Mattel is the one who fumbled with the marketing, because they kept pushing them as the OG MH when in reality they were never intended to be that.

    • @notsantea4126
      @notsantea4126 15 дней назад +2

      @@thatponighoul wow ! I actually didn't know that, thank you so much for pointing it out and I apologize for my mistake. I definitely agree, Mattel was the one in the wrong for marketing as OG Lore when it truly wasn't.

  • @Giuseppecoretti
    @Giuseppecoretti 16 дней назад +3

    could you do " which Is canon in ever After High" next?

    • @Boogeyman4511
      @Boogeyman4511  16 дней назад +1

      Will add this to my list of video ideas

  • @QueenSharotto
    @QueenSharotto 16 дней назад +3

    2:04 BONK! 😂

  • @franknstein96
    @franknstein96 3 дня назад

    Can you make a video on what you’d like to see from monster high in the future? Like another g3 show, more diaries etc…

  • @seanalailima5929
    @seanalailima5929 16 дней назад +2

    While Debi Derryberry's best voice Jimmy Neutron, G1 Draculaura is the cutest character she has voiced as Bubbles is for Tara Strong.

    • @seanalailima5929
      @seanalailima5929 16 дней назад

      Though also Diana from Sailor Moon and Cheer Bear.

  • @AutumsDiaries
    @AutumsDiaries 16 дней назад +4

    Yall wake up boogey posted!!!

  • @jaspershattered
    @jaspershattered 8 дней назад

    For the lagoona bit as a performer by habit that does happen to us . One time I'll be preforming like a star the next I'm stuck

  • @Giuseppecoretti
    @Giuseppecoretti 15 дней назад

    3:03 Is this an episode error or was done for plot reasons?

  • @QueenSharotto
    @QueenSharotto 16 дней назад +3

    6:11 don’t you mean her adoptive father?

    • @Boogeyman4511
      @Boogeyman4511  16 дней назад +1

      Yeah, but it's largely the same difference in my mind since Draculaura doesn't mention her real father that often.

  • @seanalailima5929
    @seanalailima5929 16 дней назад +3

    It is as hard as Pokémon timeline.

  • @Giuseppecoretti
    @Giuseppecoretti 15 дней назад

    1:21 maybe i Will be wrong, but what if It isn't a contradiction? What if " why do ghouls fall in love" take place shortly after the episode " party planners"?

  • @My1h0s
    @My1h0s 13 дней назад

    bros voice sounds so familiar but idk where from, it’s the first youtube video from this channel i’ve seen from him.

  • @nxfelibata2403
    @nxfelibata2403 16 дней назад +2

    Yay new mh post

  • @dee-vynevalentine3273
    @dee-vynevalentine3273 15 дней назад

    So do you think it is or is it not possible to try to make it all make sense without making it confusing and complicated.🤨

  • @SarcasticPossum
    @SarcasticPossum 6 дней назад

    I never realized Monster High had Canon to it lol.

  • @KristenHaggerty-r5k
    @KristenHaggerty-r5k 16 дней назад +1

    I mean monster high and ever after high Easter eggs, their connected

  • @Theeastrogirl
    @Theeastrogirl 4 дня назад

    Deuces stone eye thing wears off

  • @Kocham1bigos
    @Kocham1bigos 15 дней назад

    We want you to read the books that aren't canon or at least show us where to read them

  • @DollsBoredom
    @DollsBoredom 16 дней назад +2

    I’m really early ain’t I lol 😂

  • @thebondsofthestars
    @thebondsofthestars 8 дней назад

    VALENTINE AND SPELLDON COMIC MENTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! one of my favorite things monster high has ever released , my physical copy is my prized possession

  • @gamerdog1919
    @gamerdog1919 16 дней назад

    They're not beating Goku

  • @stunod05
    @stunod05 16 дней назад +1

    Early