Battlefield 4 2021 to Infinity Attachment Guide
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- *** I keep saying 5% difference between comp stubby and stubby what I really mean is 0.5% if even that much ***
The game is not being updated so this will always be relavent.
Reeecon told me to make this so blame him. Also I keep seeing people use the wrong stuff and that is not ok.
LIST of Attachments for Guns
ARs:
Stubby+None: ACE 23, F2000, AEK, BULLDOG, SCAR-H (H-BAR+ERGO/STUBBY)
Ergo+H-Bar: M416 SAR 21, AUG A3, CZ-805, QBZ-95, AR 160
Stubby+H-Bar: L85, M16, AN--94, AK-12, Any Gun on Burst
Stubby+Comp: FAMAS
Carbines: (Kind of Garbage)
Stubby+None: ACW-R, SG553, A-91, ACE 52, ACE 21, MTAR-21
Ergo+H-Bar: AKU-12, G36C, TYPE-95B, AK 5C
Stubby+H-Bar: M4, Any Gun on Burst
LMGs: (I CHANGED MY MIND BUT VIDEO IS STILL PRETTY GOOD)
LMGs with belt fed are Stubby H-Bar : Type 88, LSAT, PKP, M240B, MG4, M60, M249
LMGs with mag fed above 770 are Stubby: AWS
LMGs with mag fed below 770 are Ergo+H-Bar: QBB-95, U-100, L86A2, RPK, RPK-12
PDWs:
Stubby + H-Bar on all when you can
DMR:
Stubby + H-Bar
Snipers:
Does not matter
Pistols:
Comp for G18
H Bar for everything else
Shotguns:
Dont use them
Accessories:
Use whatever. Laser is the only thing that does anything and it helps with hip fire. I personally dont use them bc I cant be bothered to turn them on and off all the time bc of smoke. But that doesnt mean there isnt a reason to use them. I just dont include them bc I dont think its a big deal.
LIST OF GOOD GUNS TO USE
SCAR-H, AEK, ACE 23, F2000, L85, AUG A3, M16, RPK, AS VAL, PDW-R, GROZA-4.
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Just a little elaboration on what I mean by DPS differences, because this video isn’t autistic enough. If you were to take to two people and face them off in a perfectly equal fight you would have kill trades every time if they have the same gun; in BF4 you can’t really kill trade but whatever. Point is, the guns are equal. The difference between the stubby and comp stubby on aek is like 2-3 times out of a thousand the comp stubby would win and you wouldn’t have a kill trade. Obviously, this is such a low number that it isn’t even statically relevant, and BF4 is such a mess that you could easily chalk it up to DICE. Put in the fact that there are a million other variables and the guns behave the same way. Comp stubby needs to be perfectly bursted however.
Also you will see that a lot of the calculations that symthic uses actually completely negates vertical recoil. Since technically speaking, vertical recoil is the only recoil that can be reliably controlled. This obviously gives the heavy barrel a huge advantage in their number crunching since the heavy barrel would have no down sides. Of course, we at symthic tried to figure out how to numerically get around the fact that recoil isn’t perfectly controlled. It is not prefect but basically what kills you the most about the heavy barrel is the first shot recoil multiplier. You can land the first shot but then have to either decide to over compensate and hit your second shot and not the third or fourth, or under compensate and miss your second and third shot but hit your fourth. This is because humans have an extremely hard time with anything that’s not linear movement. Thus you’re losing DPS against a head glitched target.
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"Dead Video Game" 😂 That's not what I see when shit's popping off at 2am.
just as much as BF5 right now, day of BF6 trailer
Division 722 on ps4 had like 40 ppl waiting in queue it’s hilarious
Over 1000 in Australian servers now for context you were lucky the find 64 lol
Metro 24/7 woooo
@@MrBigNicholas It's just really easy to say it like that and people understand what you mean when you say it. If you just go by how numbers work there is Battlefield 2, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield 1, Battlefield 5. So why couldn't this be Battlefield 6? Since it followed this pattern. Basically the same as saying "Battlefield 4 isn't battlefield 4 but its Battlefield 9"
i've heard that recently a medic ran by and revived Battlefield 4
it never died
medic supercharged the defib now servers are overloaded
It never needed to be revived real ones already owned the game
@@ezioassassain facts had the game for months
It didn’t need the chest paddles, just the medical crate. It patched itself up on its own, just in time to play the fucking objective ^_^
"I don't expect anyone to watch this"
I watched it twice, and took notes. :thumbs up:
Bro, you have taught me more of how the attachments work in this game than other content creators such as JackFrags, Marble Duck, levelCap, and Matimi0. Hats off to you sir, this video proves there are still honest and factual content creators out there!
Marble Duck explains things way better and worked with Symthic, everyone else on your list are trash Battlefield youtuber who don't know anything about mechanics. But no Marble Duck knows what he is talking about.
@@tonybadaboni I worked with marble duck and symthic. And yes I dont script my video but that doesnt make the info wrong or bad.
@@theangrynun9298 no im not being a dickhead im just saying he goes in deep like his explaintion on how the mtar and acwr have the same kill time on 40 tickrate servers. But levelcrap and jackshits dont know battlefield theyre just promoters. Im saying this guy saying marble duck dosent teach u is bull.
@@tonybadaboni cope
@@tonybadaboni gay
4:37 Battlefield 4 is not dead! Battlefield 4 is life!
U are a hero i tried ace23 m4 sar21 and noticed a difference right away the weapons became laser accurate, gonna have to unlock all attachments for the rest and set them all as u advised
I randomly got recommended this when i was about to look for a video on this, very helpful :)
Frightening how the information in this video probably can't be found in 90% of "attachment guide" videos ever created. And the underlying ideas and mathematical analysis has probably not crossed 99% of the playerbase mind till this date.
The hb AEK is sadly still the best example of this...
The comp+stubby is probably also being used way too much, in terms of how many people actually play accordingly with the setup. People tend to just follow the meta of press mouse button 1 and shoot torsos.
MarbleDuck has similar videos, which are even more precise.
I realized how dumb some of my setups were acording to this video, but if im being honest it didnt impact my gameplay much at all, the ARs are still beasts no matter what you use and at the end of the day aim is the main factor, not the attachment, even with dumb setups i can consistently top frag, which isnt that easy in bf4
I’ve been playing this game since it came out and you taught me a lot of shit that I didn’t even know. I tried your attachments vs the attachments that bigger youtubers recommended and had a better time running your setups.
Big youtubers have no idea what is going on. Remember when they said BFV was good. Sadly those with the largest voices are often people who dont know what is going on or what makes a game good. You see this on reddit all the time. People dont know what makes a game good or fun and they have some idea but ultimately the choices they think are right are hurting the game and making it worse. A lot of people just dont know and thats fine but it becomes a problem down the line. A well educated player base is incredibly important.
@@theangrynun9298
Yeah, BF5 was borderline mediocre at best. It kinda pisses me off that lots of these big youtubers are more into hyping up a shit game or spreading misinformation for clicks instead of actually giving valuable information to their viewers. Since these guys have been my primary source for years, I’m upset at myself for not seeking out more information than a simple “alright I’ll just roll with it” and leave it at that. Other than that, BF6 is getting super hyped but I’m not buying it until I get actual gameplay footage. Dice has made me a skeptic and honestly it’s not my fault lol.
I don't know dude, I use an angled grip on absolutely everything, and it's just what I'm used to and I laser people all day long. That being said, this is a nice concise overview of all these attachments, well done thanks
TL:DR use AEK and patato because it's cool. Any other gun is obsolete.
Nice guide tho ;D popped up in my recommended
You have taught me more than all my uni professors combined. Thank you sir.
you know, this was PRETTY useful, i'm one of the very few people that wasnt lucky enough to get BF4 when it was at its best which means i began recently actually playing it, i've been watching vids for years but never bought it and this really helped explaining how the setups work and why you would choose something instead of another option (yeah i'm going to play this game daily, i give NO fucks)
The legacy lives on
I can't believe this, I see u everywhere :)
Careless broo upload a video explaining the best movements and showing the keys that are pressed in each movement please , u are the best
My personal favorite gun in the game is the ump9, something about it I just love the feel, great video
I'm commander Shepard and this is my favourite Battlefield 4 RUclips video
for new people getting into this game (havent played it since 2018) the only good grip is the egro grip, there was an update a few years back that ruined most attachments
Carbines are good for classes that don’t have ARs imo. Like Recon doesn’t have PDWs or LMGs either for that full auto capability, Carbine fills the role.
Hello. Nice video. I spent 650 hours and didnt know everything about loadouts. Thx
Late to the party, but out of curiosity how do you feel about running Suppressors? I usually end up using them on my ARs, Carbines, and PDWs. Don’t have to worry as much about not firing when on flanking routes and stuff, and the velocity drop isn’t too bad at the range of most Battlefield non-sniper/marksmen/machine gunner engagements in my experience
Also thoughts on Flash Hiders, I use them on snipers and DMRs mainly. Makes a little easier to see for follow up shots when rapid firing and also helps keep your position a bit more hidden without as much velocity drop.
2024 and still helpful!
Bf4 will keep going untill a better BF comes along
Strange stuff, I still prefer m416 way more with HB and Stubby, it’s a laser. Though I blame my style, I play something between HeXe and Sab3lo. I mean, I have more tendencies to push as Sab3lo, but I still prefer keeping those angles and being prepared for those engagements as HeXe. So I don’t use Ergo that much at all.
HB can be used almost on all LMGs btw. Definitely should be used on RPK and RPK-12, Type 88 and L86 for sure.
Comp/Stubby is a good combination for ACE 23, when you play those conquests and ranges are not easy to be minimalized.
M16 is very, very complicated to use. Various setups can be used in various ranges.
Don’t use carabines is very bold statement. They still have better muzzle velocity than PDWs. Which matters on Conquests. Ace21, Ace52 can be used very effectively. AK5C and AKU12 are laser accurate, etc. ACWR has incredible stopping power due to rate of fire, etc. Also MTAR and SG553 are very effective.
Nothing you have said in this makes any sense and is demonstrably false.
1. Heavy barrel should not be used on LMGs bc recoil. They all have way more recoil than ARs. So no
2. Comp stubby is not a good combination period. Also ummm average range is like 15m even on vehicle maps. So no
3. M16 is very easy to use. Just click. Also any attachments can be used but some are stupid.
4. Carbines are useless. Muzzle velocity means nothing in close quarters
5. Why are you playing infantry on a vehicle map?
@@theangrynun9298 1. Type 88 has almost 0 recoil. Rpk also, rpk-12 even less, AWS also almost no recoil. If you cannot control basic recoil, then obviously you shall not use HB.
2. I never said that comp/stubby is anything miracle. I can just see purposes of it.
Well ppl who don’t farm lockers/metros only obviously need to shoot at longer ranges than 15m.
3. Easy to use, tough to master. I don’t see too many top players who would use it anyhow often.
4. Obviously, clever answer.
5. Not really sure if you play conquests, but 32 ppl cannot fit into one vehicle. Also there’s still decent bunch of ppl who enjoy destroying those vehicles.
@@founik None of this negates anything I said. LMGs have more recoil for their RPM than any other class. There is no purpose of comp stubby other than holding angles in lockers and metro. Also why are you trying to increase the range of a gun that sucks at range. Again 15m is average distance even on vehicle maps. M16 isnt tough to master. Its just annoying to use. Ease of use is important. Also if you are destroying vehicles you arent using a gun. Again 99% of all kills happen inside of 35m which is still in PDW range. Why do you keep not reading or listening to what people say.
@@theangrynun9298 why you so passive aggressive
lots of people are playing bf4 since the bf2042 reveal trailer. This video is quite relevant now :D
ace 23 stubby hbar works really well feels like it kills faster than just stubby
Thanks for the recommendation youtube
also what's the reasoning for ergo grip on low rpm weapons? just lower spread while moving?
In short stubby is useless on low ROF. there is no point to not run a grip. Angled grip is also pointless bc no recoil. Therefore egro makes the most sense and helps in CQB
Explanation:
I never explained the attachments very well and thats something I left out in this video. The stubby grip decreases the spread increase of the gun. So you have less spread after 5 shots with a stubby rather than with out the stubby. The down side of a grip is that your spread value decreases slower with a grip. This means that you have to wait longer for your spread to reset after each burst. In reality this is so minor its trivial. The reason egro is used is simply that low rate of fire guns accumulate spread so slowly it doesn't matter and thus a stubby grip is sort of useless. Ergo is nice bc it gives you more up close potential than any other grip.
@@theangrynun9298 ty for the info
@@theangrynun9298 so ergo on l85?
@@staretorbmo stubby h bar. It is the one exception to the rule bc of the first shot spread multiplier.
i thought it was skill issue on my part, i ran the wrong attachments and my gameplay started improving substantially
When I'm playing engineer in a more open map or aggressive recon, I prefer the m4. I know stats may say it dumb, but something about the m4 burst accuracy just feels good.
Use whatever you like to use. Im just saying that PDWs are objectively better since engagement distances are very short on all maps and PDWs are better up close. Try them out maybe youll like them better. This isnt a you should do this that and this but rather here are the attachments that will make your guns feel more consistent and enjoyable.
m4 is not dumb, if you like doing headshots, its a headshot machine, no other weapon is better for hs. the weapons he say are good for hs, it usually is not, because every low rpm weapon, may have low recoil, but has shit spread n acc. m4, m416 n l85 are great for hs, as trying to shoot anything at any distance.
I thought the heavy barrel helps accuracy when moving
It reduces spread in all cases
You missed the ultimate soy setup
Typ 88 LMG
FLIR
Bipod
Heavy Barrel
almost correct, replace the type 88 with the LSAT
Cancer.
I usually only use Assault Class w/ Scar-H with Holo, Angled Grip, Heavy Barrel, with whatever laser usually Green cause i like green
My favourite guns are SKS used in close/medium followed by L85A2. SKS 3 hit killing at short range is satisfying.
Should have also told about flash hider and angled grip because they can be useful it used correctly with the weapons. I use a ar160 and angled grip with an ACOG and I destroy people at range. Same goes for M4 and I almost always use a flash hider on most guns.
Flash hider does nothing at all. It doesnt even hide the flash. It just makes youre gun worse for no benefit. Take it off. Also angled grip is just a not a worth while attachment. try out my attachments I am sure you will feel a difference and its better.
I have always found the MTAR fun to use. It’s no rifle though, I play it like a PDW
Best aek setup: ur fav scope
No lasers no flashlights
Compenstor
Angled foregrip
for console or something?
Scar h , underrated kekw
My main gun
nigga the fuck you mean it's underrated. It was literally banned from pro matches because of how op it is.
@@Leroy1 xd
One thing I’ve been wondering about is how accuracy resets. Does it reset the instant you let off the trigger, does it take until the gun recenters, or does it take an even longer amount?
Yes there is a time delay between after you stop shooting and when you can be accurate again. The spread decrease is very fast and it will take you longer to adjust your aim again than for the spread to reset back to base.
I’ve been looking for this thank you!
M4:
-heavy barrel
-stubby
-holo
-target detector
= fire
Whats the opinion on aug vs sar 21 for slightly longer ranges?
I like aug. I think 700 is a good rpm. If youre good you can make it work in close.
Angrynun I value your opinion a lot and was curious which weapons you'd recommend a suppressor on to smash in pubs? Obviously not looking to use val/groza, want something with a bigger mag :)
Why use one to begin with
@@theangrynun9298 cuz being off the radar is valuable in pub matches ive found and they sound/look dope.. YUP 9 months later lmao
nice video, gonna try some of the suggested setups. What attachments would you recommend for the SKS? I'm thinking it would be stubby with hbar but i may be wrong. Any suggestions?
Yeah pretty much. Stubby H bar
Great video man! Appreciate the work.
you mentioned in the description that pdws should all be run with a stubbie and heavy barrel; the ump 45 is an exception to this because of its very low rpm for its class of gun at 600, which is even slower than the scar-h. an ergo grip and hbar would be an appropriate loadout for the ump, right? you have a better grasp on the mechanics of this game than I do. Also, what's the point in running stubby on cqb maps like metro and locker? wouldn't ergo make more sense for the hip fire advantage
Egro grip is actually for long range fights. The hip fire stuff really doesnt do anything and youd be surprised just how good hip fire is in bf4. The cross hair is not representative at all. But the reason why ergo grip is good for long range is bc it allows you to move while you are at distance. Otherwise you would lose a lot of hit chance bc you are at moving spread. The reason why you want stubby is bc in CQB you end up spraying a lot more than at distance. This actually does matter especially if you want to change targets or what not. For that exact reason is why I dont recommend comp stubby. People are not machines which is almost required of a person to properly use that loadout well. Not worth the extra effort for so little benefit.
just started playing bf4 a week or so ago, and i’ve been autistically analyzing the damage models and spread statistics of the guns I run and how the attachments affect them, so this video was summed it all up for me. the autistic rambling was music to my ears and made my life a lot easier, so well done man.
also, if you were to make recommendations for what you’d run in hardcore, what ar’s/lmgs would you run? I find myself going back & forth between the famas and aek, and while these guns absolutely shred on cqc maps like lockers, I find that i’m losing a lot of fights at range on larger maps.
in hc (60% hp) what would you run, which attachments would you use, and why?
Semi auto slug shotgun, or scar h. Why bother with anything else in a game mode thats not meant to be balanced. Hardcore is pretty stupid and ruins the game balance.
brazilians only use NA servers because we suffer a constant lack of variety.
Yet all I see them play is 24/7 locker. Much variety.......
Hay bro, love your video and I keep coming back to it as a reference. Can you please update/clear up the description? for example: what should I use on the scar? Stubby+None or H-BAR+ERGO/STUBBY?
watch the video. but stubby close range. h bar egro for long range. h bar stubby for if youre playing 8v8, which you are not.
@@theangrynun9298 I’m sorry but I’ve watched the video several times and I still don’t understand why put stubby on the SCAR when it’s ROF is really low compared to other stubby-only ARs. You also said in another reply that stubby is useless on low ROF weapons. Would you mind to clear it up for me? Other than that this video is really a good reference, thank you!
@@chonky7964 The heavy hitting guns like the scar and the ace 52 have higher spread values that put them in the same category as the high rpm 5 btk guns like the aek.
This is actually such a good video. Super clear explanations of how everything behaves.
E: I would like to know why u cant run stuff like stubby muzzle on scar.
muzzle just reduces recoil and accuracy. so if you can control recoil your gun would basically become more accurate
@@wxnted0 While I'm not a fan of muzzle/stubby myself, the combination can help the gun shoot like another gun, for ease of use. FSM is multiplied by the vert recoil, so on on a Scar-H you'd go from .875 none/stubby, to .7875. Not worth it imo, however, if someone usually plays with say, the SG553 none/stubby, then initial aim points would be virtually the same across all ranges.
@@seana1190 i get what you mean. if im being honest i started with all my guns with muzzle(i couldnt control recoil as bf4 was my first ever fps game) but i gradually started using it less until completely removing it from any of my loadouts.
Dead video game??? Every match ive played in the last few months has had people waiting in queue.... Sooooo
He posted this months ago before any new Battlefield hype was built up or footage shown. Soooo give someone shit when you’re in the right next time.
@@yoshimitsu603 notice i said the last FEW MONTHS. I havent stopped playing BF4 since it came and every match ive played in has been filled. Best learn to read before you come at someone sideways dude.
You sort of answered this in another comment but I do want clarification. No laser? I mean I guess they can give away positioning but no laser or torch (aware torch doesn’t affect the gun at all) just seems so alien to me. Is it worse or just preference?
In my experience, the laser has way more cons than pros. For one, it has given away the position of players I otherwise would not have seen if they didn't have a laser equipped, you can see them through smoke, and three, if you are in the range in which you need to hip fire, then the hipe fire bonus given by a laser is pretty irrelevant. Only scenario I can think of a laser being effective is a really aggressive smg or shotgun playstyle
Do whatever it really doesn't matter. I personally dont run it bc I cant be asked to turn it on and off again in smoke and I play a lot of metro and lockers with smoke. But it does help. Also if you want to be cancer you can bind the flashlight key to something you can easily spam and win gun fights bc the other player is having a seizure.
I was looking for this exact video.
came here because of the 2042 hype and i had no idea what to do lmao, thanks for giving some good info dude, LMG's are better on the Support class?
can you add like the top 3 best guns for each archetyupe maybe in a pin or something
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@@theangrynun9298 oh.. my bad man, great video ! ty
Hey, a fresh RPK pleb here.
I primarily play Locker/Metro (forgive me for my sins), so wanted to hear opinions about optional RPK sets for CQC.
Is it similar to description's Ergo+H-Bar, or Stubby, or Stubby+H-Bar? How does it feel to you personally?
He suggested stubby only and it's really good 👌
coyote sight + egro grip, or just no grip at all
@@nxjyak anything besides Russian sights on an AK platform is blasphemy
@@MDzmitryak sight is arse
@@MyHentaiGirl I was talking about Kobra and PKA-S
Who else subbed for the prospect of 2042 guides? >Insert Jeremiah Johnson Nod of Approval GIF here
quality content, keep up the good work.
I like the independent game play, so I have to be support to get a constant flow of ammo. I don't like switching kits. So I have to play with carbines, and yes they are the weakest, but go with the MTAR and you still win a lot of battles. Just run with the Magnum for long range. Some will see this as a reverse playing style, but it works for me :-D
Just use the RPK
@@theangrynun9298 I also need the Target Detector and that only goes with Carbines :-)
@@RonaldMoD press q
@@theangrynun9298 Let's not fight, ok :-)
Didn't hear anything about accessories. I always was under the impression the only stat changes they ever gave was a reduced hipfire spread with a lazer and everything else was just visual, i.e. lights. Is there something negative about them?
Laser makes hip fire better. Use it if you want. Nothing else does anything to the gun stats
Only learning any of this now. Literally always used Carbines, im sad that I was lead so astray for so long
Most people dont know. Try a PDW and you might like it
@@theangrynun9298 always picked them since I like the G36 and I couldn't get it anywhere else. I remember it always being pretty good but I played on ps3\4 then now I'm on PC. Will try pdw for sure
What to do on like P90 that can have Heavy Barrel but no grip?
I'm triggered, my love the AN-94 hasn't been mentioned
I just run the AEK with a vert grip and play super aggressive. But the stub is where it's at when you want to preserve more ammo, sanity, and friendly defibs.
Curious. What would you put on sidearms?
Heavy barrel on everything and comp on G18
MTAR is a decent carbine ngl
MTAR is best for CQB, you can stretch it out to medium on semi-auto but there are better options. Makes for an interesting choice when running support where you need to throw down ammo to keep that hungry MF fed.
I find I get tangeable improvement while using the comp on the aek. And whether it's by accident or not I don't know. All I know is I dont just spray, I am very particular in my bursting. Comp stubby nets better results for me.
yes there is a difference. But up close there is none. Hor-Recoil only really matters at range and thats when we see the negatives of spread. It then becomes a problem and a curve of too much recoil or too much spread. There is a balance there and you can quickly go off one end. In my opinion its not worth putting in the extra effort to net a small increase in hit rate at a distance that the aek already gets smashed at by other guns. Just press W key and move closer.
This game is 8 years old so make sure you try hard asf
i mean yea the only ppl playin r ppl that have yrs of experience with the game
Why don't you use laser sights or maybe target detector. On console aiming isn't as easy as on pc would you still say no to compensator or muzzle?
you can use laser and target detector.
you have aim assist what exactly do you need recoil adjustments for?
@@theangrynun9298 the aim assist isn't very beneficial, for example imagine a guy coming out a door and you want to aim at his head, the aim assist actually throws your red dot to his chest or arm instead of head.
@@theangrynun9298 hey man what are your thoughts on the bulldog?
@@daynahwoit It is pretty good. Sucks at range.
@@daynahwoit turn off auto-rotation in the settings. most console players should keep the reticle friction setting on as it helps with recoil. however if you're goated on the sticks (or a XIMtard) you should turn it all off so you can hit headshots and and target switch better
I don’t understand the stubby + none with the ace23/other ars cuz the angled grip with the muzzle brake make it shoot nice and smoothly tbh 👌
Bc it shoots nice with out the muzzle brake and angled. Which just make the gun unusable bc spread
Thanks dude. Really helped a lot
What are your thoughts on running a PDW with ergo grip and laser since you're gonna be hip firing a lot?
Egro grip is really only good for long range engagements. Other than that its not worth using. There really is no benefit in close range. But a lot of the PWDs already have egro grip stats so you dont need it.
@@theangrynun9298 thanks for the quick reply! I just got a few friends to start playing for the first time and I'm gonna send them this vid so they can understand the attachments
What setup would you recommend for DMRs? And are there specific ones I should avoid?
Heavy Barrel Stubby
@@theangrynun9298 Figured, thank you!🙌🏼
why dont you use accessories like flashlight or laser i don't see why not to use them other than they give away your position kinda but you can just turn it off and the hip fire or blinding is very helpful
Then use it. I dont cover it bc they really arent attachments. I dont run laser or light bc they show thur smoke and I cant be bothered to turn them on and off all the time.
@@theangrynun9298 ok thanks for the help :)
Why hbar stubby instead of hbar ergo on bursts, does stubby help even on bursts of like 3
You can but stubby is a better attachment. And the only guns with burst modes worth using are high rpm. AN94, M16 and AK12
@@theangrynun9298 just curious why stubby is better
@@jefekeefsosa4998 Bc the first shot recoil multiplier doesnt happen until after the last bullet in the brust. Also spread is still a thing and stubby helps reduce spread.
Hey Nun am I silly to think that Scar-H only angled grip feels pretty good on maps like Shanghai?
Yes
Where have u bin
i know this is really specific, but doesnt the heavy barrel make the 44. magnum perform worse? it just inscreases recoil for nothing i feel like
It reduces spread in all cases. Which is good on semi auto since recoil doesnt mean anything
4:39 BUT ITS NOT DEADETH YETETH. FOR IT IT IS STILL BEING PLAYED BY THE FEW.
Jk
But when Battlfield 6 is revealed and people get there hands on it then we will see what happens to games like bf4.
Does the flash hider actually reduce recoil or spread or is it a lie? Everywhere i look it says it reduces by 17% but i dont see anyone using it
All flash hider does is INCREASE your spread. It's SUPPOSED to at least eliminate the muzzle flash, but due to DICE's braindead developers, it doesn't do what it's supposed to. So we ended up with an attachment that exists only to make your weapon worse.
If I'm reliably hitting headshots are we 100% sure ACW isn't worth using even for a carbine?
Then you can do that with other guns too. Why is this only exclusive to carbines. Not to mention PDW have a longer range for two shot head shot kills over carbines. Which means you win even more fights. Try a PDW they are good.
Are we ignoring accessories? i get that they can give away position. I usually just run target detector cuz I don't wanna press q, is there a downside to this attachment?
They don’t affect the gun in any way. That’s why I don’t mention them.
"No reason to talk about anything else"
Can I introduce you to fun?
There is no reason to talk about anything else if youre going to talk about fun. Since winning gun fights is fun.
@@theangrynun9298 that it is, fair enough.
@@spookyboi4784 not to be big headed but attachments literally have nothing to do with snipers. Shotguns are cancer. Please don’t. And if you’re using a DMR you’re just taking up sever space.
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I swear to God every time I get killed with a shotgun slug the guy also has full choke on. Smh
And the utter lack of response to my comment only proved my point, most of you people don't understand what a full choke is on a shotgun or what it's used for and why it is pointless with a slug.. I'll give you all a few minutes to think about it
Sorry my ignorance, but how about pistols and shotguns? What attachments should i use?
Dont use shotguns. comp for g18, Hbar for everything else
@@theangrynun9298 Aight, thanks a lot dude!
Not a big fan of shotguns myself btw... just want to unlock everything x)
thanks for explaining everything
do you think bf6 should stay with the bf4 attachment model, or be a little more nuanced when it comes to picking attachments?
Ideally I’d like to see a variety of guns that do different things. Having attachments that affect the guns handling is kind of dumb in my opinion. Bc there will always be the best way of running a gun and that makes the rest of the attachments useless. I’d much rather see attachments as cosmetic. That way we can have a different look to the gun with out negatively affecting the gun. But if we have to do the whole attachment thing I’d like to see a MW 2019 approach.
My aek setup is coyote vertical grip and muzzle brake
Nice. Except that’s a horrible setup.
@@theangrynun9298 no it’s not I love it I don’t like stubby grip different people like different setups it has no recoil
@@Battlefield_Master5430 bf guns already don’t have recoil. And why don’t you like stubby exactly?
@@theangrynun9298 because it doesn’t do anything much just spread and the muzzle brake helps vertical recoil and vertical grip hip fire and BF does have recoil are you dumb lmaoo
@@Battlefield_Master5430 Just watched your gameplay and wow. 9% acc. Stubby is far better. Spread matters. Muzzle brake is the second worst attachment just pull down. The one thing you can control and you are admitting that recoil is too much to handle. And yes BF games have extremely low recoil compared to other games. I am not the one running around with an attachment set that makes me look like I have no idea whats going on in the game I play. But go ahead keep running attachments that make your gun worse. Enjoy that. Mr shoots single digit accuracy. How do you have 9% acc with the aek. You know thats 2.79 bullets per mag. You cant even kill someone shooting 9% acc. Im not sure you are the best person to tell me that you attachments are good lol. Ive seen your gameplay. Maybe you should take some advice from someone who has three times the acc you have on a bad day.
what about muzzle brake with burst fire? ive been doing that with the AN 94. or is HB better?
Muzzle brake is bad. Use HB. Just pull down more. The recoil in this game really is not enough to warrant the use
will do, thanks
/me running UZI with FLIR because the guns are so fun to play with.
sks and svu12 are god guns
So I assume that either you don't use DMRs or they're useless because you never mentioned them at all.
Hbar stubby. I mean if you like sitting off an objective and just not really doing anything
@@theangrynun9298
You don't know much about DMRs if you think they're only good for camping outside objectives
You can tell this guys shit bucket is full.
Actually really helpful tho
I have 1200 hours over 8 years. Not exactly a lot.
AN-94 stuby comp 2 round burst on hardcore best gun no cap.
heavy barrel stubby is better for burst guns
The acwr slaps
im still rocking groza 1, its shit, not accurate at all,but damn i can hit 100m headshots with ez, and up close it shreads better than acwr for me.
Groza 1 is fun. I have over a 1000 kills with it and over a 30% acc. I think it is technically the 3 fastest gun to kill in the game but Im not sure.
@@theangrynun9298 i have 6k + and 1 thing i learned is you want to go slow with it, not too slow nor too fast. just right, and the gun will do the work for you, its very hard to learn thus many dont use it.
@@theangrynun9298 i think im the only one who uses suppression perk on support because how op it is with groza. It makes carbines more effective at any range and makes groza the best gun all around for me. Especialy in 64rush against aek bois
@@L3MONGamer what attachments do you run on it
@@mosslizard coyote and target detector or laser., and i only play support because only support has 50% supressive fire perk wich makes groza all the more op.
litteraly 0.01% players use suppress perk. ...
thats 150% supression effect for non defensive perk users..
Would running a suppressor on a sniper decrease the bullet velocity?
yes
@@theangrynun9298 aight thx
Thoughts on the new Battlefield?
We will see when it happens
I'm pretty sure i met a player in bf4 that is the same age as the game..
Scar H awesome set ups (I only play Hardcore):
Acog, no accessory, flash hider, folding grip - great for burst fire and some full auto play. Semi auto far range.
Acog, no accessory, muzzle brake, stubby - full auto gameplay, burst fire will still be your go to tho, semi auto for far distances.
Scar just one of those guns holding down the trigger doesn’t really work.
How do i access my loadouts? I cant figure it out my gamr looks completely different i cant access camos or my weapon attachements
just click on the load out tab
I like the m4, cuz it’s like the training wheels of bf4
Can you explain?
the M4 is a pretty subpar carbine
It helps your aim and stability
@@joshs2655 how does a gun help aim. And what is stability
It helps u too learn how to use automatic fired weapons, it trains you to use it, familiarized you with it.
nice