Why Ancient Jedi Murdered Their Padawans - Star Wars Explained
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Moral of the story: don’t let fear and paranoia spread within you. They’re the ingredients that make horrific actions take place
And if others are spreading them into you over months to grow hatred and division… then you can be sure you are being manipulated more for the bad than for the good.
So basically the current political climate of America
moral of the story: Yoda should have told this whole story to Anakin, instead of just saying not to trust his visions... 🤷
"The future is always in motion. It is a very difficult thing to see"- kriea
Eeyup.
So this is where Qui-Gon learned the "theoretical" youngling massacre moves
The padawan massacre moves which Qui-Gon later adapted for use against younglings. Changes include wider swings made from lower angles for use against larger numbers of shorter opponents.
Yeah that's why the "theoretical" is in quotation marks, because they are so damn practical.
It was never meant to be put into practice
Never act immediately to a threat but always be prepared
This is one of my absolute favorite stories ever. Maybe it’s just because it’s the first comic I ever read but I love it so much. Zayne is one of my favorite characters and his connection to the force is so interesting
This plan by Haazen is basically the same plan Sheev Palpatine/Darth Sidious would use thousands of years later. For all we know, Palpatine learned of this tale and created his own version of it to destroy the Jedi and the Republic. A clear example of the Jedi NOT learning from the failures of the past.
Yoda: Why does our prophecies keep blowing up in our faces?!
It's because you tried to bind it to fit your narrative or tried to stop it from happening in the first place
Jedi to the Force: “I’m trying to see the future so I can change it, but I won’t be wary of sith manipulation.”
Force to Jedi: “why are you asking me to show you something you can change, that’s not the future.
Canon Luke must have found this in the ancient Jedi texts when looking for a solution to the Ben Solo issue and thought no one can turn to the dark side if they’re dead lol 😂
This would be a great premise for an R rated Star Wars movie.
Bro this is almost the Same story line that made Luke try and kill kylo nobody like that plot what makes this s different.
Moral of the Story: Anakin was a master the whole time, the council didn’t have one master in its ranks
The Sith definitely gave them that vision
This has turned out to be one of the greatest stories w/n the lore of the SW Universe IMHO. It peers into the past, present and future. With more than just a few lessons in place. It's one story of lore which should be remembered and revisited in your mind as you work though questions on how you would handle similar situations as a Jedi. From the many points of view.
This should be made into animated Tales of the Jedi episode miniseries.
You murdered your students?
Jedi: yea, but We did it without anger!
"why one group of ancient jedi murdered their Padawans" there I fixed it for you.
Right; “Why ancient jedi murdered...” gives the idea that ALL ancient jedi did that on a regular basis
I imagine an alternate scenario where these Jedi still concluded their Padawans’ deaths was the only hope for the Galaxy, but they then carried it out in a way that better reflected this belief:
You have your padawans in a room where escape isn’t realistic, and lay it all out. First, ask them if they would die to prevent the return of the Sith. Odds are, all would say “Of course.” Then be very frank and open about your shared visions, conclusions, and what you believe must happen. Acknowledge that you accept most of them are likely innocent, and intend to remember them as heroes, not traitors. Again ask if the padawans are willing to make this sacrifice. Likely, at least some still would. After all, they aren’t little kids. They’re old enough for potential knighthood. But if some beg for their lives, you must let them speak. If you expect these kids to die for the sake of the galaxy, you better at *least* be willing to endure the emotional brutality of letting them beg you not to. But maybe some of the padawans even try to get their peers to understand. All of them, whether they submit to death or beg for their lives, are given the dignity of knowing why you’re doing this. Let each of them choose the manner of their deaths. Then return to the Jedi Temple with their bodies, present the recordings of the entire ordeal, and declare the padawans heroes. And THEN you relinquish all your authority, submit yourself to the punishment of the Jedi Order, and make it clear you won’t resist if the sentence is death. If you believed your innocent padawans had to die, you better be willing to face the same.
Anything less than this makes you, not a Jedi making an incredibly hard decision, but a coward. Which is how it played out in the real story. Nothing about the methods of these Jedi suggested they were doing the right thing.
whenever the words, "morality" "greater good" "all scientist agree" you KNOW that something just ain't right
The Jedi got distracted from the present by their fear of the future.
Probably because they were on a sugar rush and the Padawans tasted like Candy for the time being yeah.
"Yesterday is history; Tomorrow is a mystery; but Today is a gift. That is why it is called the Present." - Grandmaster Oogway
I believe that children are our future…. Unless we stop them now! - Homer Simpson
They saw a vision of the Sith and to prevent it from coming true they fell to the dark side.
Perhaps the archives are incomplete.
If a planet doesn't appear in the archives then it does not exist 😂 jocosta nu
For the people sacrificed to the plans of the so called infallible.
I absolutely LOVE that line.
well having a Sith hidden within your group, problems will happen
An we thought Dooku and Anakin screwed up... pretty sure these Jedi probably got in some real trouble from rest of the Order when the Truth got out. Like... it WASN'T suspicious ALL of the other Padawans were gone. Had. Point though... you DONT send diplomats, least not JUST Diplomats when what you really need are Police and Soldiers there
So it was not just Anakin who was guilty of using 'the Youngling Massacre Moves' as Charlie Hopkins puts it so hilariously. (His satire is well worth watching. The best SW comedy EVER! It and TSW are my two go to SW channels!
They anakined their padawans before it was cool
I was young and in college reading this comic book at Barns Noble. Good times.
Yes!!! its my boy Zayne!!!
I began reading this comic arc before seeing this video I tell you stupendous wave don’t miss
There are many lines about the dangers of seeing the future. One of the less common ones I remember from a book in The Death's Gate series. It was along the lines of
"You should never peer into the future. When you discover a prophecy, whether you are conscious of it or not, you are inadvertently fulfilling it".
I remember reading this series as a teenager, it’s by far my favorite story arc in Star Wars. We’re so used to the powerful, deftly skilled, prodigal Jedi, so Zayne Carrick being marginally force sensitive, a below par warrior, yet in his own, unconventional way, being inadvertently powerful was refreshing. And the additions of his band of misfits and seemingly OP adversaries made it even more rich of a tale. I love how it seamlessly tied the characters from the Knights of the Old Republic video games into the storyline. The craziest part is that it technically featured 3 Sith Lords. This was Star Wars at its best, canon has nothing on legends continuity!
I read this comic book series and it is definitely worth a video breakdown. Bro you're the best
The Jedi sure do make the same stupid mistake over and over again...
I love this
You left out one thing in this video and the subsequent one - the message Zayne gave them that described a vision he had - it was fake. He never had a vision. It was something he and The Gryph cooked up to deliver to the Jedi Masters to confuse them and to give them second thoughts long enough for Zayne and the others to go into hiding. Ironically, the false vision ended up coming to pass, and as The Gryph put it, it was because those five made it come to pass.
Nice job on the thumbnail
See how wicked the Jedi can be!? Messed up story & vision. However Cheers for this Awesome one as'well....
#MtFbWy too .
The concept for Star Wars is far more spiritually applicable (and scientifically possible) than people think.
We have learned (or relearned; that's another discussion) that the universe is composed of elements (atoms) of various types (like iron), and unstable types (nobelium; 58m half-life on Earth), that all behave in different ways relative to each other (compound bonding) or alone (decay). We have also learned that the constituent parts (particles) are made of entirely smaller components (quarks). Here's a really cool consideration:
Every single quark, particle, atom, compound, planet, and galaxy is held together by 'collective electromagnetism'. We can call it gravity for now; it has worked for over 100 years. But it is not 'quite' right because 'As above, so below' means just that: Scalar/magnitudinal design. I rather consider gravity to be an electromagnetic effect on an 'order of magnitude' higher to (and thus NOT regulated by) the weak/strong electromagnetic forces. This concept makes perfect sense if you understand the Hermetic wisdom our ancient ancestors left us (Pyramids are structures of ever-smaller parts: components make levels make levels make levels, scaling up forever; the Flower of Life is an ever-expanding geometric concept of growth; Sacred Geometry and Metatron's cube: The secret to mega-constructs is 'harmonic' constructs that harmonize together, such as your cells, or the matrix of a crystal, or the layers of an electromagnetic field....equilibrium/balance.
In 'Skyriver' (a name I read once for Star Wars' home galaxy) the overall elemental composition of the galaxy (and thus the overall and collective electromagnetic fields) would be vastly different than our galaxy. Tere could be 5% more plutonium-rich dwarf stars in pairs, heavy stars that consume each other's fuel and go super nova in even MORE dense elements that we do not have in the Milky Way yet, at least in abundance, because the galactic magnetic field is weaker than Skyriver.
If Skyriver had a major abundance of heavy elements, and thus a much stronger galactic magnetic field, then it would capture more ambient electrons from the cosmic void than other galaxies, and enable more energizes electromagnetic fields. All of the life in this galaxy would develop consciousness far more easily! Modern science is beginning to pin down that consciousness is some sort of piggyback effect of the subtle-energy within an electromagnetic field; our consciousness resides between 4hz for dull wakefulness and 41 hz for higher critical thinking; when our environment (the Schumann Resonance standing modes at 7.86, 14, 21, 28, 34, 41* hz) is energized these modes become active, and our brains 'couple' to those modes the same way magnetic coupling at the poles of the Earth works because we have billions of magnetite crystals in our brains.
I.e., consciousness is a 'resonance of the subtle energies of the electromagnetic field, or a rogue wave'.
In Skyriver, the depth of consciousness dips all the way down to a subcellular level: the mido-chlorian existence is in harmony with the cellular world it resides in, vibrating to the same frequency as the being it inhabits. This allows for the resonance of their collective voice to be heard, and draw the larger body's consciousness towards the sub-cellular vibrational level of 'The Force': the electromagnetic force.
Weird, huh? Just high today I guess.
This is a very good comic
I find it ironic that the good guys were so resolute in defeating evil that they would commit evil to justify their goals. Makes me question if good and evil are separate entities. Survival is the ultimate goal by any means necessary.
Maybe they just took the last Cerveza Cristal?
Oi this needs to be a movie this is sick
I need to get back into this story
not killing your Padawans, what are you a SITH!!!!!!!
When will you complete this story?
It’s crazy how everybody thinks the Sith or evil. All the shift guy did was show the Jedi a what if. Like he asked a question in their mind of what if this happened. And then they turned around and murdered all the kids.
Excited for the next holocron
Bloodmist village type shit
this was a good one
You said we would possibly be getting part 2 of this overall story in a new video soon, when is part 2 coming?
It’s written, just needs to be recorded and edited!
@@TheStupendousWave Awesome, can't wait.
anakin/vader: "from my point of view the jedi are evil"
Darth Hazen or just Hazen?
You meet your destiny on the road you take to avoid it. This is true for the entire galaxy of star wars anakin killed padme because he followed his visions.
06:26 - Murdering innocents just to get to 1 sworn enemy?
Bit extreme ... 😕
These Jedi are far worse than the Sith.......
Yes they are
A Kung Fu Fighting Jedi 🥱
If Jedi padawan finds #TDBank card💳 b4 the master... 🌎💘💰
Ah…
A self fulfilling prophecy.
So the killing of younglings is an old Jedi tradition i see 😉
Day 420 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon
Part 2 now lol (2 mins in)
Disney forgets
Jedi =Good guys
Sith= Bad guys
This story was published way before Disney bought LucasArts, and we already saw the corruption of the order in the prequel trilogy.
More......
So a bunch of Jedi had a vision from looking into the future which is considered a dark side thing, and killed innocent Padawans? Hypocrites.
Wow this is messed up
This is why the Jedi always fall there is no balance of the force in majority of the Jedi and some sith that relies on hatred and fear
I hate jedi...
NNNNNNOOOOOOO
Face, we all would've done it. I mean, those boots with that lightsaber?
Ugh.
C😮
All time based plots are bad by default.
Trying to change the past creates nonsensical paradoxes.
Trying to prevent the future only causes it, making the story boringly predictable.
Time based abilities are fine in short term but will inevitably ruin a plot if focused on.
I beg of anybody to prove me wrong.
So when aniken did it he was wrong but not them 😂 yeah fuck the jedi, aniken actually cleansed the universe weather ppl like it or not
This is as bad as the story wit Luke and Kylo ain’t no Jedi ain’t gonna make this big of a jump tired of this the Jedi are really evil bs.
First woo
This comic series was amazing! It’s not covered much and not many people appreciate it
This Story was sooo Good... The old Republic stories are truly the only stories it seems that are left at the moment to really put focus on 🥲🥲
"Fear is the path to the dark side."